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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: local_dunce on March 27, 2008, 04:29:59 pm
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I just finished watching the Mist and god damnit fuck what the hell. This film is both genuinely distressing and hilariously comic. In one go.
The Mist (also known as Stephen King's The Mist), is a 2007 American horror film based on the 1980 novella The Mist by Stephen King. The film is written and directed by Frank Darabont, who had previously adapted Stephen King's work and had been interested in adapting The Mist for the big screen since the 1980s. With an ensemble cast including Thomas Jane, Marcia Gay Harden, Laurie Holden, Toby Jones, and Andre Braugher, Darabont began filming The Mist in Shreveport, Louisiana in February 2007. The director revised the ending of the film to be darker than the novella's ending, a change to which Stephen King was amicable. Unique creature designs were also sought to differ from creatures in past films. The Mist was commercially released in the United States and Canada on November 21, 2007.
Now, I usually wouldn't include spoilers in a discussion topic about a film like this but I really have to tell you what is going on in this movie. So if you haven't seen it yet and don't want it to get ruined then stop reading now or skip ahead some.
The basis of the film is pretty much that this "mist" rolls in over the town and people start dying. The survivors all hole up in this supermarket which is where it gets really scary. Not because it is a MONSTER movie because as cool as that is, that's not the bit that is distressing. The distressing part is the fact that this religious nut chick stirs up enough trouble to turn the majority of the survivors into primative religious fanatics with a need to sacrifice humans, at which point it seems more dangerous INSIDE the store than it does OUTSIDE with the monsters.
Either way, shit happens and the few sane survivors left decide they're going to take their chances in the mist so they load up their car, drive as far as the petrol will take them (which is apparently not enough) and come to a stop.
THIS IS THE SPOILER ENDING PART DON'T READ THIS BIT OKAY: And this is where the film gets ridiculous. Here is what happens... The Main Character, Drayton pulls out the only gun they have. There is 5 of them, and 4 bullets so as the hero he decides that he will just shoot them all and deal with the monsters himself. He doesn't really consult them on this he just blows them all away INCLUDING his own son who is just waking up from being asleep... "Hey Dad what's going I just took a nap why are you pointing a gun a- *BANG*" So he just killed everyone and steps out of the car resolved to his fate.
AT WHICH POINT the missed suddenly clears, tanks and soldiers roll in with trucks of rescued citizens and big GUNS AND FLAMETHROWERS just to slap him in the face and say WELL IF YOUR PETROL HAD LASTED YOU A FEW MORE FEET OR YOU HAD STOPPED TO CONSIDER INSTEAD OF JUST SHOOTING EVERYONE THEN IT WOULD ALL BE OKAY.
Which actually makes the ending MORE traumatic because god damn.
Anyway it's a pretty good film up until the ending, but you don't have to worry about that now since I've told you what happens so just enjoy it. It's pretty good up until that point which becomes a serious what the fuck moment.
Here is some links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mist_%28film%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP-MHO_M6ik
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yeah the ending sucked the book ending is way better (i actually laughed at him when everything went rolling past him)
good movie, tho.
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ignoring the book for a second, the movie had to end the way it did but i don't feel like typing all this shit out again so here's something i posted on my livejournal addressed to steel who basically said the same thing about the ending that you did
ps WOAH SPOILERS ugh fuck don't read my post
"steel you are kind of wrong about The Mist's ending
considering the way frank darabont ended it (with drayton killing everyone in the car), the mist had to disappear. granted he also could have ended it the way stephen king ended it but i haven't read the story yet (i think my friend has it though so i'll check it out) so i'm not going to compare the two. but if you consider the context of the movie it kind of had to end that way.
ok before i go on to explain WHY im also going to mention that he probably could have ended it with drayton also killing himself and THEN the mist clears; regardless, the fact of the matter is that if he killed his son then the mist had to clear either way, otherwise it would have been... inconsistent, i guess.
actually steel you are smarter than i am so you were probably already aware of this but just in case!!
basically ms. carmody was a psychic or a prophet or something (and since this is stephen king we're talking about there's just about a zero percent chance that all her predictions were just LUCK). she knew from the beginning that the mist was death, she knew the locusts would come, she knew they wouldn't come when they sacrificed that army dude, etc. etc. obviously there was some deal about the seven plagues, the locusts being one of them. i can't remember all the plagues and i don't think they were all in the movie but they had least had some sort of significance.
then before drayton and co. leave the store ms. carmody says WE WANT THE BOY. passover? first born son? that was the last plague, wasn't it? but he doesn't give him to her and the mist stays and they drive off and they run out of gas and WHOOPS they're fucked.
but then drayton kills his son (and "the whore" too for that matter) and the mist clears.
so yeah, the mist had to clear. maybe i misinterpreted you and you were more angry at the fact that drayton is alive than the fact that the mist clears then yeah i can see where you're coming from, that is kinda gay (THE... THE IRONY...) but whatever dude it was handled pretty well if you ask me and didn't ruin the movie at all.
also i think my plague theory might be flawed. ignore the PLAGUE part and just focus on ms. carmody being a prophet, i guess.
actually what did piss me off about the ending though was seeing that one lady who walked out of the store at the beginning of the movie. what the fuck? how the fuck did she survive? fuck that shit man! like, what the hell was the point of that other than WOAH DUDE SHE SURVIVED... DONT YOU LOOK LIKE AN ASSHOLE NOW HUH DRAYTON"
steel replied basically saying "but fuck the fact that ms. carmody was right" and i kind of agreed with that at first but then i tried to look at it in a different way:
"oh yeah i know was going to go into how the religious context was complete bullshit if you read it that way but it was 4 in the morning so i didn't really feel like getting into it.
that said i still feel like it was more of a criticism than anything else. carmody is still made out to be a monster and her followers seem more like followers of a cult than genuinely religious people. and, i mean, the part where what's his face kills her is seriously the best part of the movie and was obviously done in a way to make us think OH THANK GOD SHE WAS SUCH A BITCH (of course the way she's laid out on the ground when she's killed is obviously meant to resemble the cross, but i take it more as FAKE RELIGIOUS SYMBOLISM as opposed to LOOK SHE'S LIKE JESUS... almost like she was laid out like that more because SHE thought she was holy than because actually was).
you have to consider that drayton was the one who killed his son and not carmody or her followers. had carmody herself killed him and the mist faded then yeah that would be complete bullshit and i would completely write off the movie just because of that. but that's not what happened; drayton had to kill his own son in order for the mist to clear. and that, to me, seems like more of a criticism than an affirmation of YES SACRIFICE IS GOOD.
basically, yeah, in THE MOVIE WORLD ms. carmody was right about everything, but i think what that's saying is that people in real life who are like ms. carmody (or similar at least) are fucknuts and IS THIS SERIOUSLY WHAT YOU ASSHOLES WANT or something like that.
i don't know, i guess this is kind of a loose reading, but i really don't think that after all that build up of hatred for ms. carmody that the movie would end with HEH TURNS OUT SHE WAS RIGHT REPENT REPENT REPENT. i think a lot of people might read it that way which is too bad because i don't think that's what it's trying to say!"
then:
"i guess to put it in a slightly clearer way, it's saying that if this is what you believe in (WE MUST REPENT etc), then you're a fucking asshole because look at what happens to good people like drayton. it presents the belief as if it were true and shows you why it's gay as hell and stupid.
i think if darabont had ended it the way stephen king did (i shouldn't be doing this because i haven't read the book and i'm just going off what you said), then misinterpretation wouldn't be a problem, but i think he was trying to criticize religious radicals in a different way.
or maybe he just really fucked up the ending i don't know."
i didn't bother reading this again so there are probably some things i could change and it's probably kind of a stretch but yeah that's what i got from it i guess
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The ending was just too pessimistic... I mean I using don't mind unhappy fucked endings... but JESUS... I mean... all he had to do was wait for just a little while longer his son would be okay... that shit was just depressing...
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The ending was just too pessimistic... I mean I using don't mind unhappy fucked endings... but JESUS... I mean... all he had to do was wait for just a little while longer his son would be okay... that shit was just depressing...
Man... This is what I thought, one more minute, twelve more feet in the car and they all would have been clear. But after reading Roman's post this wouldn't have happened and I just didn't realize it. So yeah I guess I get it now, the mist wouldn't have been clear if the boy hadn't died because that is what had to happen according to ms. carmody's predictions which WERE all right and then at the end SLAP the boy dies and the mist is gone. Thank god she fucking died though.
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I still totally disagree with Roman's perspective.
I just really don't like the implication that Carmody is right. let's not forget the woman who wanders off at the beginning but is alive for some stupid reason. it doesn't sit well with me at all!
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I LOVED this movie, it's No.3 on my top 5 of '07.
About the ending, Roman nailed the bitch on the head about the kid dying. I never really considered the plagues, but I assumed that either Carmody was controlling the entire event, or she knew what was going on and why.
About the rest of the movie:
1. Drayton didn't just pull the gun out and cap 2 old farts, his woman, and his kid. If you actually pull out your watch while you are viewing the movie, you will see that a connection of thought is very clear. Everyone in the car knew they were going to kill themselves except the boy.
2. They didn't just run out of gas. They drove for a LONG, unspecified time. We can assume it's long, because they are on a rural highway at one point.
3. The solider killed in the movie isn't in the book. Neither was the girl who was stung by the locust. Basically all it means is that they are there to increase the gravity of the situation.
4. The ending is WAY better than the one from the book. Anyone who has seen the movie and read the book and still disagrees is either lying or doing a drug. I'm very surprised the movie changed the ending because the book basically says "See you next time!"
This movie kicks ass. 9/10. +2 Thomas Jane Points.
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how's the novella end?
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end of the novell-ette
Basically, the group (minus the old man) heads off in the scout the same way they did in the movie.
Cut to some period of time later, Drayton is speaking directly to the reader through a journal/letter. They are in the lobby of some building, everyone is sleeping except Drayton, who is writing the journal/letter, to whomever may find it. He basically says he has no plan of action but to attempt to drive to Hartford (he has like 15 hours of gas left?), because while randomly flipping through AM radio channels, he only hears one word: Hartford.
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I saw this movie about a month ago. It's a great movie imo, but the ending was a bit duff. I was suprised that it was a movie by Frank Darabont in a way, but in an other way not becuase its a steven king book.
Also, I don't agree with Roman that Carmody was a real prophet. I think it was an example of when in extreme peril that they dont understand, people will latch onto any crazy idea and will twist their logic and reason. All of Carmody's predictions could be put down to coincidence and I think the purpose of her character was to show how the general public will easily follow a leader no matter how ridiculous it sounds
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end of the novell-ette
Basically, the group (minus the old man) heads off in the scout the same way they did in the movie.
Cut to some period of time later, Drayton is speaking directly to the reader through a journal/letter. They are in the lobby of some building, everyone is sleeping except Drayton, who is writing the journal/letter, to whomever may find it. He basically says he has no plan of action but to attempt to drive to Hartford (he has like 15 hours of gas left?), because while randomly flipping through AM radio channels, he only hears one word: Hartford.
this is a little bit of a simplification. it's a pretty hopeless ending but there's that last bit and you are left wondering. as opposed to this one HEH KILL A BABBY I BET YOUR WIFE'S STILL ALIVE TOO.
oh and IDK how big that was in the movie but in the book he tries to get to his wife and then has to admit to himself that she's dead.
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this is a little bit of a simplification. it's a pretty hopeless ending but there's that last bit and you are left wondering. as opposed to this one HEH KILL A BABBY I BET YOUR WIFE'S STILL ALIVE TOO.
oh and IDK how big that was in the movie but in the book he tries to get to his wife and then has to admit to himself that she's dead.
In the movie it is pretty obvious she is dead because it shows her dead body.
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oh whaaat.
that's not as sad :(
it's much worse when he's not even close to there and there's a tree in the way and he's thinking I CAN MOVE THE TREE I CAN MOVE IT REALLY QUICK and then Amanda puts her hand on him and he just breaks down.
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Actually, Stephen King said that he wished he had thought up the movie's ending. I found the ending kind of funny actually, in a LOL PWNED way.
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Roman I'm surprised you thought that woman was (even in the movie world) a real prophet. She was just a scared religious zealot who then, in her eyes, had her faith affirmed by one of the insects not killing her (she stood still and waited for it to get the fuck off her when everyone else was going nuts). At one point you can hear her preaching about Abraham being willing to sacrifice his son to God which I thought was some of her reasoning behind that rather than the first-born plague thing.
I thought the mist clearing was a result of the army breezing through killing all the other-world shit rather than an effect of Drayton killing his son.
But yeah, I am a very big fan of sad endings and this really delivered. It really couldn't possibly be worse for Drayton at the end. He had to kill his son out of mercy and having promised him to never let the monsters get him but even so that is so awful and sad :(
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i saw it and didn't get anything even remotely close to roman's interpretation out of it, but it kind of makes sense. if he's right, i don't think it's such a bad ending at all. every time i hear someone carrying on a conversation about old testament shit (pretty frequently!) part of me really wonders whether or not they even want any of this awful shit to be true. i liked it because the entire thing was really fucking gross and just felt awful and is this anything anyone religious would really want to be right about??? hahaha yessss i was right all along... now kill the kid to appease the angry, vengeful god.
but my initial interpretation was more in line with mark's. i really only thought ms. carmody was supposed to be batshit to illustrate how obscenely stupid and superstitious MODERN PEOPLE or whatever they call themselves can become in a short period of time if they're put in the right circumstances. even looking at it from this perspective, i didn't mind the ending. in fact, i thought it was great. it left such a bad taste in my mouth. it kind of reminded me of the first time i read romeo and juliet in middle school, and i wasn't entirely sure how it ended, and the entire thing just felt like it was the result of a series of unfortunate coincidences, and you were just like "aww come on." it's tragic or whatever, which i just personally dig, but it's so hilariously unlikely that it is hard for me to not kind of like it. but i would've probably preferred the ending the novella had, or one steel suggested on aim where after shooting them, he just gets out of the car and walks off into the mist. i'm not completely sure i even understand what steel dislikes about it so much.
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Yeah I thought that was what was going to happen, he'd shoot them all and then walk off into the mist to kill himself, end of film. But then the mist clearing and everything being A-OKAY is just so so much worse for him. If he'd just walked off into the mist he's spared his kid being ripped apart and kept his promise and is a hero because he's the one who couldn't take the easy way out but as it happened it was just a massive tragic waste (unless you think the boy's life is tied up with the mist itself which I don't get)
I'd have totally been disappointed with either walk off into mist ending or the novella ending as I understand it.
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Man I dug this movie. With so much absolute shit being passed off in the horror/sci fi/POST APOCALYPSE genre today, it was so nice seeing one as genuinely despressing and hopeless and eerie as this!
ps......cant wait to see prom night
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Roman I'm surprised you thought that woman was (even in the movie world) a real prophet. She was just a scared religious zealot who then, in her eyes, had her faith affirmed by one of the insects not killing her (she stood still and waited for it to get the fuck off her when everyone else was going nuts). At one point you can hear her preaching about Abraham being willing to sacrifice his son to God which I thought was some of her reasoning behind that rather than the first-born plague thing.
I thought the mist clearing was a result of the army breezing through killing all the other-world shit rather than an effect of Drayton killing his son.
But yeah, I am a very big fan of sad endings and this really delivered. It really couldn't possibly be worse for Drayton at the end. He had to kill his son out of mercy and having promised him to never let the monsters get him but even so that is so awful and sad :(
I want to give Frank Darabont the benefit of the doubt, because if nothing else he's a pretty good director in terms of making things look nice and evoking emotions and shit. Honestly, though, he doesn't really seem like an IDEA person to me. Three of his four major movies have been based on Stephen King books, so I kind of get the feeling that he's more about just putting a book on the big screen and not about injecting his own ideas and interpretations into it (unlike, say, Stanley Kubrick, who's movies are all based on books but they are still HIS MOVIES as opposed to the author's book as a movie, if that makes any sense). So quite frankly I probably am "wrong" about this movie in the sense that Darabont probably didn't have this in mind when he was making it.
That said, I'm the type of person who thinks that there's no such thing as an incorrect interpretation of a movie (unless the interpretation is absolutely ridiculous like saying a movie where a dude gets his hair cut is about SEXUAL DOMINANCE hey guy maybe andy warhol's just a boring douche). Quite frankly I think directors should be more like David Lynch (isn't it funny how I manage to bring him up in every topic ever) or Stanley Kubrick who usually refuse to reveal their intentions with their movies and instead let them speak for themselves. I remember reading about American Psycho the other day and the director said something like "a lot of people think the murders were just in Patrick's mind but they all actually happened" which I think is mad gay because she was basically saying NOPE SORRY YOUR INTERPRETATION WAS WRONG and fuck that because the idea that the murders were in his head was much more interesting anyway.
edit: yeah i know i said STEEL YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE MIST'S ENDING but when i say "there's no such thing as an incorrect interpretation of a movie" i really mean "shut up i'm right about everything"
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I always thought they were in his head. And if they weren't then that is the most fucked up bad ending for a movie ever.
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I want to give Frank Darabont the benefit of the doubt, because if nothing else he's a pretty good director in terms of making things look nice and evoking emotions and shit. Honestly, though, he doesn't really seem like an IDEA person to me. Three of his four major movies have been based on Stephen King books, so I kind of get the feeling that he's more about just putting a book on the big screen and not about injecting his own ideas and interpretations into it (unlike, say, Stanley Kubrick, who's movies are all based on books but they are still HIS MOVIES as opposed to the author's book as a movie, if that makes any sense). So quite frankly I probably am "wrong" about this movie in the sense that Darabont probably didn't have this in mind when he was making it.
That said, I'm the type of person who thinks that there's no such thing as an incorrect interpretation of a movie (unless the interpretation is absolutely ridiculous like saying a movie where a dude gets his hair cut is about SEXUAL DOMINANCE hey guy maybe andy warhol's just a boring douche). Quite frankly I think directors should be more like David Lynch (isn't it funny how I manage to bring him up in every topic ever) or Stanley Kubrick who usually refuse to reveal their intentions with their movies and instead let them speak for themselves. I remember reading about American Psycho the other day and the director said something like "a lot of people think the murders were just in Patrick's mind but they all actually happened" which I think is mad gay because she was basically saying NOPE SORRY YOUR INTERPRETATION WAS WRONG and fuck that because the idea that the murders were in his head was much more interesting anyway.
edit: yeah i know i said STEEL YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE MIST'S ENDING but when i say "there's no such thing as an incorrect interpretation of a movie" i really mean "shut up i'm right about everything"
don't forget that you said that there is 0% chance that the actions of Carmody are just luck. That sounds like a fact to me rather than an interpetation.
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don't forget that you said that there is 0% chance that the actions of Carmody are just luck. That sounds like a fact to me rather than an interpetation.
this is called nitpicking
shut up im right about everything
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I totally agree about shit being left open to any interpretation (yours is wrong). That is really dumb about American Psycho, what a dumb director.
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it's based on a book. So guess the author should have the final say. The director interpreted the book, made a movie and told everyone who took it a different way that they were wrong. brilliant. But it could still be valid as long as the author doesn't say the same shit.
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I enjoyed the ending because MASSIVE TRAGIC IRONY but also I had just seen I Am Legend the week before or something.
I Am Legend Ending: Neville encounters a Hispanic woman who believes humanity survived the infection in Vermont because GOD TOLD HER. Blah blah protect the Latina and her son, scary vampirezombies etc. Neville's last stand, sacrifices himself so she and her son will live. Then they go to Vermont. HAPPY END HUMANS 2 INFECTED 1. Can we write a great movie where humanity doesn't win?
Now, I liked where the Mist's ending was going. I was really pushing for the Mist creatures to dominate earth or whathaveyou. Granted that didn't happen, and I got the AMERICA FUCK YEAH ending instead, BUT the whole shooting everyone else in the car thing almost made up for it.
The titanic creature that shook the car as it walked literally awed me into silence.
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I rather enjoyed The Mist. But for some wierd reason, I thought The Punisher was putting on a fake American accent. I had to keep reminding myself that he is actually the American Christopher Lambert. Maybe he just has a funny voice... I dunno.
I almost turned it off about half way through though, 'cause I thought it was coming across as a generic horror movie. Then the whole religious thing kicked in and things got good. Although, it was a bit unrealistic how some religious looney could brainwash a bunch of people in about two days, but then I've never been trapped in a shop under attck from killer mist before so what do I know?
As for the whole "Is Carmody a prophet/psychic?" argument, naw, I think it was just coincidence.
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i'm not completely sure i even understand what steel dislikes about it so much.
okay well let's ignore the better endings (one of which I just came up with after hearing the end of the movie) and the horrible fact of the woman returning from the beginning (a chilling moment in the book reduced to kind of HEH...LOOK HOW GAY YOU ARE).
even if you ignore all this, I think the problem extends into actual plot.
Drayton has just escaped a grocery store full of religious nutjobs, his friend has died, his wife is probably dead. I don't know what he would promise his son, but previous to this, it's all been about surviving with his son alive with him. he's not going to leave him. so why shoot him in the head? maybe the movie did a good job of illustrating this but for some reason I don't think "don't let the monsters get me" means SHOOT ME IN THE HEAD IF THINGS LOOK HOPELESS PAPPAP. it doesn't ring honest to me; he's not going to go outside and try and desperately see if he can find a building up ahead? shift that sucker into neutral and run? fuck, wrap his kid in garbage bags and hurl him like a football towards a building? SO MANY DUMB IDEAS but none of them involve killing your own son.
so lets assume okay, it's hopeless for some odd reason, no one thought to gas up or switch cars or anything like that in this journey, they just avoided all these buildings even though the gas light is blinking, all this gets thrown out, it looks hopeless.
why in FUCK would Drayton shoot everyone ELSE in the car? they didn't say DADDY SHOT ME PLZ : ) they are just along for the ride! it's not a very good thing to do at all.
as a result I don't get the feeling the ending is so much tragic as it is kind of HILARIOUS. he shoots everyone for no reason OH GOD NO HE REALLY DID SHOOT EVERYONE FOR NO REASON NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO *screams at sky*
maybe the movie drew this better than I'm thinking it did (still ain't seen it) but I just don't see it. the tragedy strikes me as just a little ridiculously over the top. heh...he killed his family and friends...for nothing lol!
imagine if Oedipus gouged out his eyes and ran screaming blind out of the castle only to be stopped by his real mom saying "FINALLY I FOUND YOU" and he screams "noooooooo i thought i fucked you argh"
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It was really dangerous to go outside for even a minute. So changing cars would be super dangerous...Also, In Drayton's defense, he took out the gun and everyone in the car gave the nod of 'it's the only thing left to do'. The reason he shot them, becuase in the situation it was pretty clear that the monsters were going to ravage them in a horrible painful way. Better to go quickly than have you insides eaten out whilst you're still allive. It just sucks that if he had have waited a little longer they were would have been fine.
In fact this is the underlining theme of the story. Everyone thought they were doing the right thing, but in the end they turned out to be wrong.
The woman at the begining who they thought she was an idiot to leave the building is on the truck at the end safe and alive with her kids.
Drayton who thought that they had to make a run for it caused a few people to die. In fact, the people who stayed in the store were probably rescued.
And of course finally Drayton trying to do the right thing by ending all their lives painlessly went tits up.
Drayton is kind of like the cliche character were controls everything etc, but ends up being wrong in a lot of situations, which is quite chilling
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I don't think, that however bad it got I would ever shoot my son/self/friends. I don't think anyone would just give up like that. At least not in that way. Not to mention that he had been driving along with a full tank of petrol, I AM PRETTY SURE nobody is going to try and charge him if he just stopped to fill up for a minute and yeah it is dangerous to get out even for a minute but just WIND THE WINDOW DOWN, FILL UP AND GO which is what was so hilarious about the whole thing. He just gave up and shot his own son and the only way I can feel good about that is if Roman is right and the kid had to die for it to all end. If it was just a fact of BANG DIE SON I HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE TIME IN DEATH... OH WAIT HEH STUPID ME IF I HAD JUST WAITED ONE MORE MINUTE EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN COOL OR IF WE HAD JUST GOT OUT AND TRIED TO WALK IT OUT HEH STUPID ME OH WELL then it's just too tragically hilariously kind of stupid and that doesn't rest well with me refer to my original post.
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honestly i think it is just TOO CONVENIENT that he killed everybody like two seconds before the mist cleared. i dont know man that would just be kinda gay.
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He didn't kill them all without consent apart from his son who'd just woken up. I don't know, they'd just shown that massive hellbeast walking along and I kind of thought SHIT that's big, the mist must be over the whole world, everyone's dead. It was still surprising when he did shot them (I thought he was going to say "no... life's too precious" or something as gay) but it seemed reasonable enough.
edit: I didn't notice the woman who left the shop early on but if I had I'd have thought it was mad gay
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I don't think, that however bad it got I would ever shoot my son/self/friends. I don't think anyone would just give up like that. At least not in that way. Not to mention that he had been driving along with a full tank of petrol, I AM PRETTY SURE nobody is going to try and charge him if he just stopped to fill up for a minute and yeah it is dangerous to get out even for a minute but just WIND THE WINDOW DOWN, FILL UP AND GO which is what was so hilarious about the whole thing. He just gave up and shot his own son and the only way I can feel good about that is if Roman is right and the kid had to die for it to all end. If it was just a fact of BANG DIE SON I HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE TIME IN DEATH... OH WAIT HEH STUPID ME IF I HAD JUST WAITED ONE MORE MINUTE EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN COOL OR IF WE HAD JUST GOT OUT AND TRIED TO WALK IT OUT HEH STUPID ME OH WELL then it's just too tragically hilariously kind of stupid and that doesn't rest well with me refer to my original post.
yeah that's pretty much the gist of it. if the movie added another 30 minutes to it, you see him and the rest deciding to go on a highway to hartford, he runs out of gas, they are all getting tired and sick and ill and hungry, maybe then buuuuuuuuut...
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it's too dangerous to get gas so i'm just gonna shoot you all alright to save you the trouble of getting eaten by monsters. "BUT then you will get eaten by monsters because we don't have enough bullets." I'm cool with that. "So if you're cool with that why not just jump out and try and get us some gas!" because we dont' want to get eaten by monsters I have to shoot you all even my son. "But we don't have enough bullets!" It's okay I don't mind being left behind.
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He tried to shoot himself but then realised he didn't have enough bullets. Obviously he planned to kill himself aswell.
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if only that one dude hadn't killed mrs. carmody
what a shame
i think
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He tried to shoot himself but then realised he didn't have enough bullets. Obviously he planned to kill himself aswell.
dude what. He picked the bullets out, COUNTED THEM (4) and said "WELL THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FOR ALL OF US" or something. So I'm pretty sure he knew what he was getting into but yeah it's beside the point really.
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wellllll
yeah that was dumb, but i kind of accepted it had to be SORT OF RIDICULOUS for the movie to end the way it did. at that point i just think the writer/director already had an ending in mind and was just sort of stretching things to fit together for it. as far as the GAS thing goes, idk, gas stations don't work without power, and as far as i could tell, no one had any power at that point. so if he didn't have a siphon, there really wouldn't have been any way to get gas. this is REACHING, i'm aware, but yeah.
another thing that i think maybe is taken for granted is a general sense of hopelessness that would probably come with seeing so many people die and driving through monster-ridden territory for what i can only imagine is a few hundred miles, at least. should they have gotten out, gotten some gas (if it was at all possible), or just gotten another car and continued? clearly! but at that point i guess the prevailing thought would've been "this shit has swallowed up our world and is never going to end," so i don't think it's a wildly out of line course of action, being filled with despair, to just kill yourself quickly and save yourself the trouble of a painful, gruesome death at the hands of a giant lobster monster that you're sure is waiting somewhere in the unending fog. my impression was that everyone already assumed that if they didn't reach the end of the mist by the time they ran out of gas, they were pretty much as good as dead.
what are they going to do in a building? wait for weird shit to come and kill them. what are they going to do if they somehow find a way to gas up/switch cars? drive through the mist and wait to get stepped on or have weird shit come and kill them. i'm sort of just arguing for the sake of arguing here, to be honest, but i also sort of think that it's somewhat short-sighted to just say I DONT CARE HOW BAD THINGS GOT I WOULDNT DO THIS when you probably have no way to relate to the experience at all. you don't know what you'd do! i'm not saying you would MURDER YOUR SON, but i am saying a lucid mind can't completely account for what it would do if it were to be filled with fear and despair.
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I guess the main problem I have is not with any of the single events that have been discussed but just with the fact that it's ALL TOGETHER completely ridiculous, like the woman who walked out of the store turning up at the end despite being hundreds of miles from where they left and the "rescue" arriving just seconds after he shot everyone. I can definitely understand the feeling of hopelessness but it just all feels really bad. Of course I bet the director never thought about it all as indepth as we all have. He probably just thought hey wouldn't it be cool if after he shot everyone the mist cleared, I bet that would leave a bad taste in peoples mouths. And why don't I bring back that woman from the beginning just to make Drayton look like a real douchebag.
I guess what I am saying is that even for a movie the chances of everything happening how it did are pretty slim.
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i wish i hadn't deleted it, because i have no clue what woman you're talking about. i've been wondering about this the entire topic.
but yeah, it was completely ridiculous. that's what i liked about it! the entire movie was sort of believable up until that point, and then just YEAH WHAT IF ALL THIS UNLIKELY BUT AWFUL SHIT WERE TO HAPPEN AHAHA FUUUUUCKKKK YOUUUU AUDIENCE. under normal circumstances, i would agree that if it's a serious movie, it shouldn't just be pulling shit that's wildly unrealistic, but i guess i sort of view it as stylistic of the director to have a fairly faithful, realistic movie suddenly turn into a shitstorm of unfortunate coincidences that ends up fucking everyone over. so many movies i see feel like they are ending the way the director thinks the audience would like it to end, that i like the idea of something ending in a way everyone is sure to hate. no pandering or anything, just OH WOW WHAT A TERRIBLE, UNSATISFYING ENDING.
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hahaha, well that's a perspective I didn't consider ever!
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Well yeah, Maybe it was just so that everyone who was expecting the novel ending was left speechless.