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Post by: Achiro on March 31, 2008, 07:32:59 am
Man I have had a crap buttocks day, it seems like everyone (EVERYONE) want's me to be christian.
Telling me all that mumbo jumbo about if I'm not christian ill burn in hell together with I need to accept jesus as my lord an savor.
So I'm looking into saving up some of my cash (I got a nice job shoveling dirt for 65$ a day! together with it's easy for me)
to buy a german sheperd!  :gwa:

together with I'm going to train it to rip the recruiting spirit right out of peoples faces.
Seriously though thats illegal contrary to expectation eh. Religious recruiters are annoying. I was told twice in walmart today in what manner or way  "Such a fine young man like me would be a good servant of god!" I may be fine contrary to expectation I'm not going to be a servant to any god, I've played god of war II together with I'm not up to that excrement. I was in addition given such a nice compliment by my neighbor's parents, "It's sucha  shame a person like you isn't christian." This wasn't today contrary to expectation like two weeks ago.  What teh signal of angry dismissal is with this town together with focusing religion on me? It's freaking eugene theres over 900 people here together with appearently every single one I meet knows I'm not a "proud" god warrior together with wants me to convert. Any Ideas on in what manner or way to get them to step off? I've tried telling them to F off contrary to expectation as you know, cristians don't believe in anti-harrasment. not here at least... I just want to move contrary to expectation my parent's don't want to. I know the damn second I turn 18 I'm looking into buying a house in a liberal state. or alaska.
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Post by: Bondo on March 31, 2008, 07:48:58 am
Roll your eyes to the back of your head, wave your arms around and speak in tongues.  They will back away, slowly, and be afraid to approach you afterwards.

Though, seriously, there really isn't any way to approach that situation delicately.  The only advice I could offer is to continue to politely decline their offer to get jiggy with Jesus.

I am a former agnostic turned Christian. (Sorta.  I've stripped the extraneous garbage from the faith and super-simplified it, just focusing on what matters and viewing the Bible as no more than an interesting reference.  Ordinary Christians usually don't view me any higher than they view your average Atheist.)  I'm usually tempted into defending my faith, or formerly lack thereof.  Today, I simply refuse to argue with anyone.  I'm quick to change the subject, and when it's forced upon me, a blunt and to the point statement on what I think of the pressure put on me usually gets them off my back.
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Post by: Achiro on March 31, 2008, 07:53:47 am
Roll your eyes to the back of your head, wave your arms around and speak in tongues.  They will back away, slowly, and be afraid to approach you afterwards.

Though, seriously, there really isn't any way to approach that situation delicately.  The only advice I could offer is to continue to politely decline their offer to get jiggy with Jesus.

I am a former agnostic turned Christian. (Sorta.  I've stripped the extraneous garbage from the faith and super-simplified it, just focusing on what matters and viewing the Bible as no more than an interesting reference.  Ordinary Christians usually don't view me any higher than they view your average Atheist.)  I'm usually tempted into defending my faith, or formerly lack thereof.  Today, I simply refuse to argue with anyone.  I'm quick to change the subject, and when it's forced upon me, a blunt and to the point statement on what I think of the pressure put on me usually gets them off my back.

hmm, the first ide ais a good idea...I could also carry around a satanic book or necromancer spell book and wear a black hooded robe with a red pentagram on the back around where ever I go too... hmm it's just stupid enough to not work how i planned it too.
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Post by: Terin on March 31, 2008, 05:10:31 pm
hmm, the first ide ais a good idea...I could also carry around a satanic book or necromancer spell book and wear a black hooded robe with a red pentagram on the back around where ever I go too... hmm it's just stupid enough to not work how i planned it too.

Yeah, do that and look like an idiot.  Seriously, you're trying too hard.

How about you just ignore them?  Like any civil/right-minded person would.  When Mormon's come to my door, I tell them I'm happy with my faith and don't need their's.  If/when they try to continue on I tell them I'm not interested and close my door.  If they try to get inside the door I will keep closing the door on their arm until they get the idea.  But the thing is, most people will stop after the first step of saying, "Not interested," if you don't act like a dick about it.

--Terin
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Post by: Strangeluv on March 31, 2008, 05:14:23 pm
I agree. Just ignore them. Give them the cold shoulder and walk away. "No thanks."

Ha, it reminds me of this scene in Airplane! where all these recruiters are approaching the captain in the airport and he kung-fus all of them.
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Post by: ase on March 31, 2008, 05:19:15 pm
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this is the only reason I'm keeping this topic open for now. I would like to hear your response to the fact that even Google wants you to embrace the grace of Jesus Christ.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 31, 2008, 05:20:47 pm
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Like any civil/right-minded person would.

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What I did, just to be a jackass to my neighbors who made a big deal of it, Turned on ALL the elctrical equiptment in the house all night. and got an electric blanket instead of a normal one that night. they were so outraged that they flipped me off from there windows. And I flipped them off back by setting up 10 strobe lights around my house and called some friends over for a party. Not many people my age can get away with this XD of course my parents are away for the week. bwahaha
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Post by: Marcus on March 31, 2008, 05:53:32 pm
man i don't even believe half the shit you guys spit out about RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS because it sounds way to farfetched and exaggerated to be true.  let's make one thing simple: ppl want to sell you their shit.  this is fact, but i honestly cannot believe that CHRISTIANS are the only ones walking up to you and saying "hurf durf belief in gawd NOW" because i have been approached by 30,000 more whackadoos than jehova's witnesses and mormons.  walking the streets of new york and seattle alone, i've been acosted by bhuddists, muslims, scientologists, luddites, people who worship ancient babylonian idols, aryans, and this one guy who wanted me to buy a book with a snake god on the front.

i hereby declare a new GW rule that you can NO LONGER COMPLAIN ABOUT CHRISTIANS because it's boring as fuck to hear everyone's lame ass tales about how some normal suburbanite walks up to them and says "dude, believe in god."  until one of you fuckers gets approached by a woman who cut her left breast off and tells you to submit yourself to the amazon queen, you have absolutely no room to complain.

fucking no room to complain.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 31, 2008, 05:55:49 pm
you're kidding right.

I was told I was going to hell because I had a beard!

I've seen these people reduce young Christian girls to tears because they are DAMNED TO HELLFIRE for going to school.

what the fuck are you talking about.
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Post by: Marcus on March 31, 2008, 05:57:27 pm
i'm talking about fanatics in general.  there are 10x more interesting fanatics out there than christians and every christian tale i've heard on gw has been something completely normal.  handing out flowers at the airport is normal.  crucifying yourself in front of a mosque are the kind of tales i want to hear.
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Post by: Strangeluv on March 31, 2008, 05:58:51 pm
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Post by: Marcus on March 31, 2008, 05:59:47 pm
oh and you should have told those christians that jesus had a beard ARGUMENT DESTROYED
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 31, 2008, 06:00:31 pm
i'm talking about fanatics in general.  there are 10x more interesting fanatics out there than christians and every christian tale i've heard on gw has been something completely normal.  handing out flowers at the airport is normal.  crucifying yourself in front of a mosque are the kind of tales i want to hear.

who cares about Achiro, most people who mention zealous Christians almost always say that they were saying something incredibly offensive at the time.

one of the best dudes I know on campus is a brickyard preacher who prays for my soul and shit like that, I didn't bring him up because even though I know he hates the GLBT center and shit like that, he's a nice guy. most people ARE talking about "interesting" fanatics.
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Post by: Madolah on March 31, 2008, 06:05:44 pm
"I'm Agnostic, leave me the fuck alone" usually gets them away from me or my door :)
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Post by: Marcus on March 31, 2008, 06:08:12 pm
Well call me spoiled or whatever but people praying for your soul is completely ordinary.  I hear offensive shit every day but seeing someone walk up to you while you're waiting for a bus, sprinkle dust over your head, and cast a charm to protect you from the crafty Andrealphus and the wiley Buer is much more interesting than "some dude said i'd go to hell for being literate."

I've had a skinhead flash me a noose in public at Jacksonville, Florida but I didn't make a topic about it.  I don't make a topic every time a mormon knocks on my door and claims that being black is the mark of cain or whatever.  But having a magic spell cast on you to ward off demons, now that's discussion worthy.

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"I'm Agnostic, leave me the fuck alone" usually gets them away from me or my door Smile

Or, I dunno, just listen to what they have to say if you've got the time.  I'll afford them that courtesy.  Most of these people don't expect you to listen and it gives you the right to criticise them and compare beliefs.  Nothing pisses off an advertiser more than you challenging what they have to sell.
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Post by: Roman on March 31, 2008, 07:12:44 pm
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I may be fine but I'm not going to be a servant to any god, I've played god of war II and I'm not up to that shit.

hahaha you are a funny guy achiro

also im pretty sure there's this dude on my campus who shouts about burning in hell and shit but i dont really listen to him so i dont know
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Post by: Evangel on March 31, 2008, 10:32:05 pm
It sounds to me like you probably flaunt your atheism.  How else would every person you encounter know about it?
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Post by: Ragnar on March 31, 2008, 10:36:38 pm
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this is the only reason I'm keeping this topic open for now. I would like to hear your response to the fact that even Google wants you to embrace the grace of Jesus Christ.

I thought that said Jesus 420
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Post by: Mama Luigi on March 31, 2008, 11:05:18 pm
Sorry about your troubles and all Archiro, but uh, if you're outspokenly atheist then people are going to say something.

You see, we live in a Christian country. It's a favorite pastime of Christians to attack the minority religion (ie atheists, jews, muslims, flying spaghetti monsterism, etc). If you are quiet about your religious beliefs, then no one will try to convert you! It's that simple!
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Post by: Wash Cycle on March 31, 2008, 11:21:57 pm
I thought that said Jesus 420
jesus was pretty 420 friendly heh... hash oil was one of the most sacred ointments/oils to the jews at that time

as in... unless there was hash... god could not physically inhabit/bless a place
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Post by: Achiro on April 04, 2008, 08:59:21 am
i've spent all week telling peopel to f off, does it work? no, because about 300 peoples come into town a day and leave. it's eugene for god sakes, it's not the fact they want to convert me it's the fact that I get a doorbell ring every few minutes. I'm almost not exaggerating, I can't put up a gate because I don't really even have a yard (backyard doesn't count). And for people who say I'm over exaggerating, I live in eugene, only things here are a mall, a bunch of homeless, and people who want to sell crap or convert a religion or both.I don't mind the ads, I don't mind the insane homeless hordes, I don't mind the religious, I DO mind getting asked if I accept jesus as my lord and god when I'm in the middle of watching something on tv, then when I go back and sit down, Someone else knocks on the door a few minutes later, The amount of times I have sat up and down this day alone I should have buns of steel and the ability to crush a human head between my thighs (sounds great). and by the way, I really don't care at all what you find offensive or retarded about me, I never asked for your opinion on THAT subject (yet), because for some crazy, insane, mad, mentally ill, and odd reason, I really didn't ever care to begin with! =D If I did I would of made this thread "Share your opinion about me while I spit out offensive shit on the towns people thread" which would be locked on site probably. Can you really blaim me for being severly annoyed by annoying people who knock on my door near 50 times per day asking me about shit that a nine year old could tell never happened if there parents weren't so sure that it did happen they programmed it into there brain.

Since it seems to very hard to imagine i'll detail the problem more carefully.

I have a porch right next to a corner sidewalk, no front yard, only a backyard and a small public alley on the right hand side of the house, and I have no room for any gate or fence, I can't legally own any form of guard dog whiel I live here,now heres an example of my day, I wake up, brush my teeth, shower, eat, answere the door, sit and relax, answere door, play some games, answere door, go help my friend dig up his yard so he can later level it, go home, eat lunch, answere door, play computer, answere door, go back to playing computer for about twenty minutes, answere door, play Xbox 360, half way through game awnsere door, miss spell answere, eat dinner and answere door 1 - 3 times during, strain out a massive log that abraham later uses to build his house of shit logs, watch a movie maybe, play video games, awnsere door, go to bed.

I made the schedule yesterday and wrote down every detail worth writting down. replay that for about a month or two. you would probably be willing to kick a priest in the face at this point. cops don't respond because frankely, unless it's murder, theft, assualt, or anything that effects them, they don't give a shit. about a month ago I stopped listening to what the people have to say and all that shit because frankely I didn't care in the first place and see no reason why I should listen. It's also hard for me to ignore things that don't instantly stop after five or so seconds.  it's also hard to listen to a  movie while this is going on    KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK! KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK! KNOCK! KNOCK KNOCK! KNOCK! KNOCK! Don't you think? And I doupt a "Fuck you go away fag" sign at my door would help much either, BECAUSE I'VE TRIED THAT!you know what they did? knocked it over. yep. and beause the fact the door probably costs money I don't want to nail it into it, not that that would stop them. and since the porch is white I doupt sheeps blood would be healthy for it. If I wanted to hear shit about how you think I'm lying, I would go to a chat room, were they could say it in one sentance instead of taking a full post. seriously, damn.
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Post by: Mongoloid on April 04, 2008, 09:09:32 am
The amount of times I have sat up and down this day alone I should have buns of steel and the ability to crush a human head between my thighs (sounds great).

Achiro, you seriously are awesome. I laughed for like 5 minutes when I read this, perfectly delivered.

I too am an atheist, but I have made sort of a name for myself (not allowed in a few churches), and Christians generally don't approach me. It is usually me that is doing the converting, as the best thing about christians is their flawed teachings. If you can hit the right facts at the right times, EVERY conversation with a christian will lead to "Well you have faith, despite all the facts." Once you get to that point, you have the right to say "get the fuck out, and don't come back until you have a REASON to believe in something."

Don't fall for that agnostic bullshit either, the burden of proof is an argument for cowards.
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Post by: Achiro on April 04, 2008, 09:35:34 am
Achiro, you seriously are awesome. I laughed for like 5 minutes when I read this, perfectly delivered.

I too am an atheist, but I have made sort of a name for myself (not allowed in a few churches), and Christians generally don't approach me. It is usually me that is doing the converting, as the best thing about christians is their flawed teachings. If you can hit the right facts at the right times, EVERY conversation with a christian will lead to "Well you have faith, despite all the facts." Once you get to that point, you have the right to say "get the fuck out, and don't come back until you have a REASON to believe in something."

Don't fall for that agnostic bullshit either, the burden of proof is an argument for cowards.


I would use that way but
*school house fun facts music*

(1) This town generally shifts community once a day so if you do make a name for yourself it will be gone fast
(2) I don't any time I'm willing to fund to some guy who think's man kind came from dirt and an old guy build a alrge ship by himself in a few days and managed to round up every existing animal ever made AND HAVE THEM FIT on the boat and not eat each other or have the boat sink then suddenly earth completely fluds over and only the people on the GIANT arc survive, not everyone else who had a boat.
(3) I spend alot of my time trying to unclog the toilet from my giant log so that contributes to (2)

KNOWLEDGE IS POW3R!!111 (Crushes pomeranian with mind powers)

by the by, While I was posting this a kind young gentlemen came to my door and asked me....IF HE COULD USE MY PHONE :O I was so shocked that I pissed all over and vometed a baby and he ran off screaming.
Oh woe is me. At least I have something to throw at zealots now.
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Post by: Jeff on April 04, 2008, 09:09:10 pm
Dude Achiro, believe marcus. Come live in Jacksonville for a few months and you will think all that you have experienced was trivial. It is like another world here. You don't even know.
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Post by: Kaworu on April 04, 2008, 09:29:43 pm
Topics/discussions/conversations like this are one of the reasons that made me consciderably more open minded to the concept of god and/or other deities. (I still don't believe in that jesus rubbish, but I'm not going to act like a five year old whose had his cookies taken away, and be a total cunt to someone when there are so many alternatives where the outcome is that I am still a reasonable human being)
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Post by: Cheshire Cat on April 05, 2008, 12:07:54 am
Intresting fact: the bible says i'm wrong for having long hair (its for women, cos they should cover themselves).

I view it this way: We don't know it in this day and age. Religion was what we needed when we had no science to explain why stuff happened. Now religion thinks it has a right to interfere with fucking everything which, thankfully, we usually dont give two hoots about in England.

Being a generally secular society, we just have them that come round the doors politely told to fuck off. Now and then you encounter some fundamental bugger in town, but everyone keeps a wide berth. We know that the nutters with the god posters are barmy and will have nothing to do with them.

There's a time and a place for god. It was about 1000 years ago.
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on April 05, 2008, 12:32:16 am
ahahahaha you dumbo, what science stuff was religion there to explain exactly?
world wide floods?
the death of every first born in egypt?
the ground swallowing men?
a city destroyed overnight and a woman turned to salt?
the sudden confusion of languages?
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Post by: goat on April 07, 2008, 01:47:22 am
This has explained so much to me:
and just because it's related:
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Post by: AdderallApocalypse on April 07, 2008, 01:55:07 am
Living in a rural town in North Carolina, I can see where you are coming from. Then again, I am very closed about my atheism in real life.