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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: hero_bash on April 07, 2008, 08:38:14 pm
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Well, if you have or haven't played The Way, you would surely enjoy this.. It's a trailer made by the creator of the game, Lun Calsari. www.crestfallen.us
The edited one with new music..
The original trailer..
Anyone played the way?
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What's the point of a trailer for a game completed years ago?
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Maybe he wants to keep it alive, get more fans, I dunno.
I think the trailer is boring and the music sucks but The Way still remains as the best rm2k/3 game(s) I have played.
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I recommend you beef up this topic or else it will get locked!
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That music doesn't fit the game...at all. Neither one of them do.
But yeah The Way series is definately one of my favorite RM games as well. The storyline is especially good.
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i didn't even watch the trailer, but i played the game for like thirty minutes once, and i'm loling at the fact that he used a blink 182 song as the background music.
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i hate rm trailers 'cause they're usually just DUDE WALKING and they're always terrible
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it's not blink 182
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ahaha yeah i'm watching it and it's this gay green day song. i'm not sure if that's more or less funny, though.
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Ahahahahah Boulevard of Broken Dreams
LunC is probably one of the best writers to create an RPG Maker game, but his music preferences at the time the original trailer was made is pretty amazing; by amazing I mean shameful.
i hate rm trailers 'cause they're usually just DUDE WALKING and they're always terrible
Yeah man, RPG Maker trailers are usually pretty dull. More people should watch and learn from the Chrono Trigger or Mario RPG intro videos, those were entertaining.
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The trailer was way to long and the music was so unfitting, it just ruined the whole thing. Lol greenday was used in the original one?
I've got to admit I was pretty excited when I came in this topic. I was hoping that he had compiled all the games into one version and updated all the graphics and was attempting to make it a commercial game and this was the trailer for it.
What I got was teen adolescence music over a trailer that doesn't really show much about the game's story at all...
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The game itself looks pretty good for an RM2K game.
But haha the music.
DON'T WANNA BE AN AMERICAN IDIOT *collects mystical crystals*
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I actually think this game would be great if it just had green day music on loop for the whole game. It would be like modern art or something
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LunC has talked about remaking The Way using something other then rm2k and making it one big game before.
As of right now its is 100% known LunC is done with rm2k and rpgmaker in general, but there have been a few rumors on a hidden game that takes place before The Way and revolves around the character Dirk. These are only rumors, nothing is known about if its true or not as LunC keeps to himself.
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I'm not very versed in RPG Maker, but why doesn't this show any combat? because it's the same throughout all RM games?
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hahaha wow, at first i thought he was trying to appeal to the RPG MAKER DEMOGRAPHIC with that music but it turns out he genuinely likes it. i hope the faceless trailer is this good.
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Using commercial music like this is such a big risk because not everyone loves green day :(
At least it's not linkin park - in the end. :X
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I'm not very versed in RPG Maker, but why doesn't this show any combat? because it's the same throughout all RM games?
Don't know. The combat is actually a bit different then most rm2k games.
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But it still uses the DBS... but there's also a CBS jack-en-pon like game...
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I actually tried The Way around the time it came out and got to Chapter 2, and hated it. The maps were awful in Chapter 2, I didn't even know where I was going or what to do. And the story wasn't that great.
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I actually tried The Way around the time it came out and got to Chapter 2, and hated it. The maps were awful in Chapter 2, I didn't even know where I was going or what to do. And the story wasn't that great.
Yeah I felt this way too. The game seemed to have some sort of sense of style and a specific vision in terms of what it was trying to do, but when playing it I simply was not having any fun. Ludos to Lun for capturing the hearts and minds of so many people though!
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Thirded. I just really couldn't get into the series. It did have a nice and pretty original style, and hats off to Lun for that, but it just wasn't interesting enough.
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the best part of the trailer is the big "battle scene" with the vases everywhere, random patches of grass, and clutters of dead bodies THE HORROR OF WAR
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Using commercial music like this is such a big risk because not everyone loves green day :(
At least it's not linkin park - in the end. :X
Heh. The song's lyrics fits quite well with the game's plot though.
Are you sure this trailer was made by Lun? Perhaps advertising isn't his thing.
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Thirded. I just really couldn't get into the series. It did have a nice and pretty original style, and hats off to Lun for that, but it just wasn't interesting enough.
4th'd
I still have bad memories of the Slig utterly destroying me. I never tried anything past Chapter 1, because it seemed like a grim series that would leave me feeling depressed. And the first one really wasn't much fun...
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It's always fun to listen to ppl flame something they didn't even bother to play. "I got to chapter 2" "I didn't get past chapter 1". Well guess what? It's 6 chapters long. If you didn't play it, don't knock it. You have NO idea how the game plays or how good/bad the story is becuase you DIDN"T SEE IT.
[sarcasm] BTW, I've never played Halo 3. But I'm gonna say it sucks balls. I'm not gonna play it ether but trust me, I know what I'm talking about. [/sarcasm]
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Um, about your sarcasm statement about never playing Halo. The thing is we actually did play the game. We just never got caught up in it, so why finish it?
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Where is everyone getting the idea we have sarcasm BB tags on this forum?
Saying people can't criticise things they haven't experienced all the way to the end is fucking dumb, you are fucking dumb.
Maybe... by the second chapter people could work out they don't like the STYLE or BASIC PREMISE of the games.
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If I said I never played the Way, will I get the fanbase after me?
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Umm.. I actually plaed the whole The Way and finished it. I really think that the plot goes excellent in 5-6.
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Well I don't think many people know this, but the new versions of The Way have options of making it Story Only, which means all battles and puzzles turned off.
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That actually really sucks.. The option to have that. It's pretty boring if you do that..
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we're currently debating whether to use Lou Bega's Mambo No 5 or Bahamen's Who Let the Dogs Out as our trailer music.
Jackson 5's I Want You Back IMO
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A boy travels the earth to find science and jewel..s......and himself
~Lun Calsari
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what the fuck did i go back in time to 2003?
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It's always fun to listen to ppl flame something they didn't even bother to play. "I got to chapter 2" "I didn't get past chapter 1". Well guess what? It's 6 chapters long. If you didn't play it, don't knock it. You have NO idea how the game plays or how good/bad the story is becuase you DIDN"T SEE IT.
[sarcasm] BTW, I've never played Halo 3. But I'm gonna say it sucks balls. I'm not gonna play it ether but trust me, I know what I'm talking about. [/sarcasm]
I agree, I have not played enough of The Way to deem the whole series as bad. However, that doesn't change the fact that I didn't enjoy the first one, and I have heard other people describe the series as "dark" before. It doesn't seem like my thing, and it's up to me wether I play it or not. I'm normally more open-minded about this kind of thing, but this time I just wasn't up to it. Maybe someday I'll be able to offer a more informed opinion.
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If I said I never played the Way, will I get the fanbase after me?
Yeah, this. I've never played it before either.
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I played the Way 1-4 and 5 is still ongoing and I just downloaded 6.
Gameplay Wise I don't really like it, but the story kept me going.
Lexus!! Why oh whyyyyyy
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Yea, the battles are hard...
Did anyone knew there was a walkthrough?
http://www.geocities.com/jabbo_kaldra/way_faq.txt
My favorite character is Strata and also Traziun..
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The thing about The Way is, it DOES start off really slow and isn't alot of fun when you lose Plunge after Plunge. But the game is designed to make you feel weak at first and slowly build you up. I think more rpgs should do that. In most rpgs you win 100% of the battles that you are in and if you lose even one battle it's a gameover and you must start from your last save.
The best part of The Way is ep 6. And considering it's pretty much as long as Eps 1-5 combined it's definatly worth it.
People who give up on stuff that don't like at first are missing out on alot of great things in life. It's sad.
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That explains a lot...I must admit though, I didn't like that the game made you start off feeling weak. Sure, it's an innovative idea, but nothing frustrated me more than Rhue's complete lack of any talent whatsoever (at least early on, I don't know about later). Maybe it worked for you, but it was part of what turned me away from the series. Can you blame me for having different tastes?
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Nope, don't blame you at all for having different tastes in games.
The way I see it, The Way series had a great way of making the world the same the whole way through. In most rpgs you fight weak enimies automattically and as you go along as you meet up with stronger and stronger foes.
However in The Way, the enemies are as strong as they are from the beginning and it's the hero who must build up over the course of the game and overcome his weaknesses. Like how Strata nearly kills you in the beginning, I think it's ep 1, when you are catching the red bunny. But by the 4th or 5th ep you are just as strong as he is and you are able to battle him one on one in that tournament. I felt like jumping up and down in excitment when I beat him in a plunge.
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Now that makes more sense to me. I still don't like how weak Rhue was to start with, but that pretty much explains it all. I think it would've worked better (for me at least) if Rhue had stood even a slight chance against the people/things he fought early on. Something about being forced to lose battle after battle just turns me away...
But, then again, different tastes. If a lot of people still enjoyed The Way, then it's a successful series in my eyes. Whether I liked it or not.
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It really strikes me strangely that other series(ehem.. Laxius Power) has a bigger fanbase than The Way which in my opinion totally pwns LP in every aspect (except the ecchi and boobs in LP).
I guess it's different tastes thing..
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It really strikes me strangely that other series(ehem.. Laxius Power) has a bigger fanbase than The Way which in my opinion totally pwns LP in every aspect (except the ecchi and boobs in LP).
I guess it's different tastes thing..
Its because sex sells, even in rm2k games.
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Rone, episode 6 isn't as long as episodes 1-5 combined, even if you do everything. It's the longest episode but not all that much longer than episode 4 or 5. And it's funny how many people disliked episode 6, but it's understandable because Lun took a rather unique approach with it, and it was unlike anything anyone expected. I loved it since there was a lot of freedom and it just had some great things going for it, though story-wise episodes 4 and 5 take the cake. Seriously, I suggest everyone to endure the first episode, it starts to get better at second episode, the story gets more and more interesting in episode 3 (I prefer ep2 to ep3 though) and episodes 4-6 are the peak of the series, easily. Estrana (a huge city you reach in episode 4) is seriously the best city in any RPG ever. The story, the mapping, everything is just so well done. And in episode 5 something huge happens and I just couldn't believe it, and it was so well done. I doubt anyone would regret playing The Way once they get to episode 4. While the series has its flaws and execution isn't always perfect, I think The Way is easily better than many, many commercial RPG's. And I don't mean just the bad ones, because The Way is genuinely a really good game. We need to realize that it's a RPG Maker game, it was made in Lun's free time, obviously for free, and RPG Maker is a very limited platform and you need to make compromises. It can't be perfect and as far as RPG Maker games are concerned, The Way excels in almost every area. I also want to say that it's not just the story which is good, I think Lun did terrific job with the dialogue, because he managed to give each character a personality and he could convey that through dialogue without forcing it.
I cannot stress this enough. Play it. Just play it. Yes, I'm a The Way fanboy. :gwa:
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alright well
SINCE YOU FEEL SO STRONGLY and since i think it's sort of cool that he used bryce of all things to make the maps, i am going to download and play it and hope that this isn't another skies of arcadia moment where i realize all too late exactly how much ds and i's tastes differ.......
if i get that gay rm2k text bug though, fuck it.
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jesus christ (http://www.cafepress.com/estrana.40676122)
THINGS ARENT LOOKING GOOD DS
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i... i cannot defend that one
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Episode 6 had too much gameplay and not much story for a game that focuses on storytelling and that has some of the worst gameplay mechanics ever (lol plunge/boring dbs). Episodes 4 and 5 were really great though, so I urge everyone to download the no-battle version and just play through the game for some good twists.
What's the episode with the really huge and pointless fieldmap? That was so horrible.
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hey not the right topic for this at all, but i just downloaded it and for some odd reason my directional keys do not function with rm2k games. is this a common problem????
guys plz help i wanna play this sobad : (
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That was episode 2, though I liked that map. But I like exploring plus it had some neat side-quests. That map won't take long if you don't want to spend time in it though.
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I loved the way...and i waited anxiously for its sixth episode....and then i never beat it.
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I don't know if i ever will....because i lost all my old progress. and i just cant replay games.
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This one is defo in my RPG Maker hall of fame.
A Blurred Line is my fave though :)
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The thing about The Way is, it DOES start off really slow and isn't alot of fun when you lose Plunge after Plunge. But the game is designed to make you feel weak at first and slowly build you up. I think more rpgs should do that. In most rpgs you win 100% of the battles that you are in and if you lose even one battle it's a gameover and you must start from your last save.
The best part of The Way is ep 6. And considering it's pretty much as long as Eps 1-5 combined it's definatly worth it.
People who give up on stuff that don't like at first are missing out on alot of great things in life. It's sad.
no you're wrong your game is awful you're a failure at life
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no you're wrong your game is awful you're a failure at life
this is coming from a fat liverpool fan
Anyway, I've never played this game, but the trailer puts me off. Though I don't really rm2k anymore, I'll try to give this a playthrough.
jesus christ (http://www.cafepress.com/estrana.40676122)
THINGS ARENT LOOKING GOOD DS
words cannot describe this
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i think i fall in the category of giving up in episode 2 because i didn't get hooked. The story which everyone was super pumped about failed to hook me and the systems were tedious and stale. But the graphical style was pretty cool.
Apparently I'm missing out by not trudging through a few more episodes..
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The trailer was way to long and the music was so unfitting, it just ruined the whole thing. Lol greenday was used in the original one?
I've got to admit I was pretty excited when I came in this topic. I was hoping that he had compiled all the games into one version and updated all the graphics and was attempting to make it a commercial game and this was the trailer for it.
What I got was teen adolescence music over a trailer that doesn't really show much about the game's story at all...
This is what I thought. Green Day ftl.
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Ungh, I couldn't get past episode 1 of this. The plunge system makes no sense to me (it seems like whether you win or lose is based on some arbitrary thing that changes every time) and the dbs is boring and so far there has been very little story. I'm guessing 2-6 are better storywise, but I hate the idea of playing them without finishing the first since I'm just playing for the story.
But uh, if I were to download the no-battles version someone mentioned, would I still have to put up with the plunging? Or does it remove plunging and the dbs?
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Yes, it can remove both plunging and the DBS.
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Plunge doesn't make that much sense in the beginning when there's not much you can do and you lose almost every plunge battle but you can start winning in second episode and new elements are introduced to it and it gets more interesting. There's always a random factor involved as well, but I think plunge is a pretty cool system, and I wouldn't disable it because there aren't that many plunge fights to begin with, and later in the game there are some plunge tournaments which are pretty cool.
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Man I think I complained earlier that I didn't like this game but the fact that this thread exists (and is about the fifth of its type) makes me so jealous.
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last time i checked the plunges were just 99% luck when the only thing you can do yourself is selecting which attack you use and prior to the battles you can link some shit to them, which is also luck based iirc.
So i dunno man it was pretty stupid like theres the basic damage that goes according to some stat + luck, and then theres the random AI (luck), possibility to proc the skills linked to the attack (luck) and critical hits (luck). Why is the majority of it all based on luck when its such a vital part of the game that you need in order to progress. At least this is how i recall it.
Like I remember how i first got my ass handed to me in this one mandatory plunge then reloading the game and oops i won effortlessly.
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also you could level up all the first weapons you get but even when they are 100% complete they still suck ass and completely lose to the later ones that have not been leveled at all, but then again there was some abilities gained through them so i dunno i gues that balances it out except that even the abilities from the later swords just wiped the floor with the early ones. But goddamn its so unrewarding and disappointing leveling up the shitty slash and stab and whatever the fuck swords expecting them to be great in the end, but, no. It doesn't happen.
So in the end you can collect all the plunge skills etc but it all depends on luck anyway so you just might not even bother, and then theres the case of normal battles in which you absolutely need to know what weapons to level and what not to level. I remember that one minecart dungeon near the end of the game and oh boy those monsters were some gayass shit to deal with when i had the wrong set of abilities leveled.
or something like that
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The Plunges are partly luck but you are wrong to think they are ALL luck. The skills you learn for plunging over the course of the 6 eps are VERY important. Some of them can heal you, some of them can add extra damage to your attacks. Some can block other ppl's skills. Some can make your special move come sooner or make your opponent's come later. Etc etc etc. Just like most everything else in The Way it's not a sprint, it's a marathon. You won't see the full potiental of anything in eps 1 or 2. You have to play through the whole thing.
And what the hell? You complained that you had to have certain weapons leveled up to beat enemies? So the fact that Lun made the weapons MEAN something and made the DBS less of a button masher is a BAD thing to you? That just makes you sound really lazy.
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Plunges are about luck at first, but not later on. If you try to luck your way through the end game plunges, you will lose everyone. There are a ton of plunges in Ep6 although most are hidden.
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Yes, and if you want to play the entire game including several endings (ep6 also have ton of hidden sidequests and optional stuff) play with Jabbo's walkthrough.. Maybe after you finish it the first time.\
I don't know how people not like ep1 though. It's the first episodes that kept me going to 2nd ep, and 2nd ep to 3rd ep... to 6th ep. I totally liked how I was going through it. Wait, I remembered 'training' Rhue a little, but anyway..
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this game looks very awesome and I can't wait until it is released, it looks like a completely original RPG with interesting varied characters, a nice and innovative battle system, an uncliched plot not dealing with crystals, and a cool nam,e
basically this is what final fantasy 7 should iof ben heh
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This was released like years ago..
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Yeah the first two episodes are completely terrible, and so is the last, at least as far as gameplay goes.
But seriously, this is still one of my favorite games of all time possibly, even though some parts are really unenjoyable.
Gameplay sucks though. The plunge may be the worst system of battle ever invented. It doesn't even get strategic until like THE LAST FOUR-SIX PLUNGES IN THE WHOLE GAME.
Seriously play it though.