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Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Rayne on April 09, 2008, 02:42:59 pm
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  • A law adventure game where you act as the prosecutor.
  • Main characters are Miles Edgeworth, Dick Gumshoe
  • You control Edgeworth, searching for overlooked evidence and inconsistencies at the crime scene.
  • New search and deduction systems are introduced.

The new game in the Ace Attorney series, a spinoff starring everyone's favourite prosecutor, Miles Edgeworth. I think this is an abosutely fantastic idea, and can't wait for it to come out, especially since Edgeworth was my favourite character. It looks like the investigation process is mroe involved than the other games, with you running around checking the scene of the crimes with Detective Gumshoe by your side.

It certainly is a nice break from constantly defending clients, and is probably what the series needed. I was always interested in the Ace Attorney prosecutors, and the chance to play as one of them is too rich to give up.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Izekeal on April 09, 2008, 04:49:01 pm
By the looks of some of the screens it seems like you can actually walk around now instead of just advancing screen by screen which would be neat.  Also, I hope some of Gumshoe's "devices" make a return as they were pretty awesome in the previous games.  I'll definitely be picking this one up.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 09, 2008, 04:51:53 pm
investigation was easily the most boring part of an already boring game, so dont want it lol.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Vellfire on April 09, 2008, 05:28:33 pm
Holy shit are you serious this is amazing
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: thejackyl on April 09, 2008, 05:47:18 pm
OBJECTION! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2516019) 

Do we get to forge evidence and tell people to lie too?   Either way, I'm looking forward too this, even though I haven't finished any of the other Ace Attorney games.  Oh...  and are we condemning innocents?
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Rayne on April 09, 2008, 05:53:27 pm
Quote from: thejackyl on April 09, 2008, 05:47:18 pm
OBJECTION! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2511330) 

Do we get to forge evidence and tell people to lie too?   Either way, I'm looking forward too this, even though I haven't finished any of the other Ace Attorney games.  Oh...  and are we condemning innocents?

That was the old Edgeworth. After the first game, he reformed himself into a pretty decent guy, so no forging evidence or whatnot. I'm pretty sure you're supposed to go after the real criminals in question.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: thejackyl on April 09, 2008, 06:01:16 pm
Well...  I'm on the last case on PW:AA, and I played the first case on AJ:AA.

So I don't know whether or not he changed for good.  I'll admit I was confused when he helped Wright during the Steel Samurai case.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 09, 2008, 06:03:57 pm
ahahah these games.

yes...the prosecutor is now a police officer.

THIS MAKES SENSE.

defense actually goes out and does a bit of investigative work (i think i mentioned going undercover at home depot once for a civil suit) if they have to, but state prosecutors only use detectives.

i feel incredibly gay because it seems like saying UGH STAR WARS SUCKS BECAUSE THERES NO SOUND IN SPACE but it really doesn't make sense that a prosecutor would go after the "real criminals" since this is what COPS do. they could just make a game about the detective and then you switch the prosecution side during court cases but I guess it's better to make it much more confusing.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Kezay on April 09, 2008, 06:08:20 pm
I'm currently playing through Apollo Justice and loving it.

This is very  much welcome news and starring everyone's favorite prosecutor. ^_^  Not to mention it could indeed open some doors background wise regarding his time with the Von Karmas even moreso than the brief mentionings in the past games.

@ thejackyl

Just you wait, Justice for All and Trials and Tribulations need to be the next two games you get it. ;)
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Vellfire on April 09, 2008, 06:08:54 pm
Quote from: Magical Negro on April 09, 2008, 06:03:57 pm
ahahah these games.

yes...the prosecutor is now a police officer.

THIS MAKES SENSE.

defense actually goes out and does a bit of investigative work (i think i mentioned going undercover at home depot once for a civil suit) if they have to, but state prosecutors only use detectives.

i feel incredibly gay because it seems like saying UGH STAR WARS SUCKS BECAUSE THERES NO SOUND IN SPACE but it really doesn't make sense that a prosecutor would go after the "real criminals" since this is what COPS do. they could just make a game about the detective and then you switch the prosecution side during court cases but I guess it's better to make it much more confusing.

From what I know of this you will be playing as (or at least he will be really really involved) Gumshoe also.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: NightBlade on April 09, 2008, 06:31:04 pm
I love how on the first page, It says "New... NOT!"

Still, I can't help but wonder if this is some cruel April Fools joke.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Rayne on April 09, 2008, 06:37:35 pm
Quote from: NightBlade on April 09, 2008, 06:31:04 pm
I love how on the first page, It says "New... NOT!"

Still, I can't help but wonder if this is some cruel April Fools joke.
It says NEW Gyakuten NOT Saiben. In Japan, the series is called Gyakuten Saiben, or Turnabout Trial. This game is called Gyakuten Kenji, or Turnabout Prosecutor. Plus, they announced they were doing a NEW Gyakuten NOT Saiben game all the way back in February.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Ragnar on April 09, 2008, 07:17:52 pm
Dear God how many of these games are there

Edit: Also I thought Apollo Justice was that homebrew Phoenix Wright game someone was making where the dude was black
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: thejackyl on April 09, 2008, 08:32:40 pm
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/Apollo-justice-english-cover.jpeg)

That's the cover for Apollo Justice.  It's a legit sequel too.  I have no idea about a fan-made one though.  Also, I think there's 4 iirc.

1: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
2: Phoenix Wright: Justice for All
3: Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations
4: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Mongoloid on April 10, 2008, 05:52:34 am
Thank god for Edgeworth, Apollo Justice was a travesty.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Eltee on April 10, 2008, 11:35:39 am
You know, what I really wonder is if you get to wave your finger infront of your face.

For real.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Vellfire on April 10, 2008, 02:48:21 pm
Quote from: Mr. L on April 10, 2008, 11:35:39 am
You know, what I really wonder is if you get to wave your finger infront of your face.

For real.

Maybe they could make you do it REALLY exaggerated so the mic can pick up on the sound of the wind.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Kezay on April 20, 2008, 08:28:07 pm
I imagine there will be a proper trailer out there in due time, but Famitsu managed to cover the recent Capcom event for the Gyakuten Saiban series which included some new tidbits/footage about the new Edgeworth game.

http://www.famitsu.com/fwtv/?51214777

EDIT:  Youtube to the rescue

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZBZLvYLPNbQ
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Vellfire on April 20, 2008, 08:35:49 pm
Kickass, if that trailer is any indication then Franziska will be involved.  Haven't seen enough of her lately.


Also I know it's just the sprite but it makes Edgeworth look REALLY short.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: goat on April 20, 2008, 10:51:50 pm
I never played Phoenix Wright, but I always love the idea of one of other characters continuing the series. And... cmon... it's edgeworth.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Eltee on April 21, 2008, 02:36:59 am
It's not really a continuation of the series, but rather a spin-off.

Apollo Justice continued the series, if anything.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Mr. Actionist on April 21, 2008, 08:08:04 am
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this one. Edgeworth is the best!
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Vellfire on April 21, 2008, 12:34:09 pm
Speaking of continuing the series, from what I've read it sounds like we're getting this and PW5 (though no clue what the gap would be between them).  I wonder what's going to happen in that.

And speaking of that, does anyone know (no clue what that would really spoil I guess but just thought I'd be safe about it)
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Kezay on April 21, 2008, 04:11:43 pm
Quote from: Velfarre on April 21, 2008, 12:34:09 pm
Speaking of continuing the series, from what I've read it sounds like we're getting this and PW5 (though no clue what the gap would be between them).  I wonder what's going to happen in that.

And speaking of that, does anyone know (no clue what that would really spoil I guess but just thought I'd be safe about it)

Yeah, a PW5 is apparently on the way, at least according to Court-Records.net.  I thought we were supposed to hear about it at Capcom's Gyakuten Saiban event but I guess that was mainly an appreciative event for the series with some tidbits of the Perfect Prosecutor game tossed in as well.

As for Maya, don't read if you haven't completed Trials and Tribulations:

Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Vellfire on April 21, 2008, 08:43:25 pm
Quote from: Kezay on April 21, 2008, 04:11:43 pm
Yeah, a PW5 is apparently on the way, at least according to Court-Records.net.  I thought we were supposed to hear about it at Capcom's Gyakuten Saiban event but I guess that was mainly an appreciative event for the series with some tidbits of the Perfect Prosecutor game tossed in as well.

As for Maya, don't read if you haven't completed Trials and Tribulations:


I did finish T&T and Apollo Justice both, so that last sentence was my only concern.  I guess no one knows.

edit:  Speaking of court-records.net, this is an amazing find (http://www.court-records.net/screenshot/kenji/waterpark.jpg).
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: NightBlade on April 21, 2008, 10:00:12 pm
Quote from: Velfarre on April 21, 2008, 08:43:25 pm
I did finish T&T and Apollo Justice both, so that last sentence was my only concern.  I guess no one knows.

edit:  Speaking of court-records.net, this is an amazing find (http://www.court-records.net/screenshot/kenji/waterpark.jpg).

I sincerely hope that isn't Oldbag in the background there.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Vellfire on April 21, 2008, 10:01:26 pm
Quote from: NightBlade on April 21, 2008, 10:00:12 pm
I sincerely hope that isn't Oldbag in the background there.

Going by what they've said on that site, she most certainly is there.

I just like that Edgeworth seems to be interrogating a dolphin.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Eltee on April 22, 2008, 10:45:16 am
This shit is aweeeeeeesome. I bet the dolphin can talk or.. maybe Edgeworth understands dolphin communication?
More of the blue badger has made my day, though.


I need to catch up with you twads.
Still on Justice For All.... :(
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Rayne on April 22, 2008, 10:54:05 am
Oh my, did someone murder someone else wearing a BLUE BADGER costume? That is all kinds of awesome. And Edgeworth expands upon his Prosecuting and Investigating skills by adding in Dolphinspeak, haha.

Also, the final case in Justice For All is amazing. No matter what you think of the other 3, the last one is pretty much reason enough to play JFA.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Eltee on April 22, 2008, 10:58:40 am
Yeah, I heard about it. I just wish I could finish this up already though

Trials and Tribulations looks..... intense. As all hell.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Vellfire on April 22, 2008, 12:22:07 pm
Quote from: Rayne on April 22, 2008, 10:54:05 am
Also, the final case in Justice For All is amazing. No matter what you think of the other 3, the last one is pretty much reason enough to play JFA.

Yeah, it was pretty much my favorite trial of all of them, all the way to the end.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: NightBlade on April 22, 2008, 08:12:56 pm
Quote from: Velfarre on April 21, 2008, 10:01:26 pm
Going by what they've said on that site, she most certainly is there.

Poor edgeworth, she must be stalking him.



On the subject of the Dolphin, Maybe we'll have something like the third case of Ace Attorney. (This time instead of a parrot, you call the dolphin to the stand.   :fogetmmh:​)
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Sarenji on April 22, 2008, 08:29:02 pm
I seriously hope these games aren't being milked for all their worth. Apollo Justice had above average cases... all up to the finale of the last one. If the games are on a downward tumble toward "trash", I'll be pretty sad! I'll have to wait and see on this one.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Kezay on April 23, 2008, 01:13:45 am
Quote from: Velfarre on April 21, 2008, 08:43:25 pm
I did finish T&T and Apollo Justice both, so that last sentence was my only concern.  I guess no one knows.

edit:  Speaking of court-records.net, this is an amazing find (http://www.court-records.net/screenshot/kenji/waterpark.jpg).

If anything, I'm actually kind of more interested in seeing how Pearl has grown up.  Shouldn't she be around Trucy's Age at that point? (give or take I suppose)
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Vellfire on April 23, 2008, 02:37:01 am
Quote from: Kezay on April 23, 2008, 01:13:45 am
If anything, I'm actually kind of more interested in seeing how Pearl has grown up.  Shouldn't she be around Trucy's Age at that point? (give or take I suppose)

That's an interesting thought too, she should be somewhere between Trucy's age and Ema's age, I can't remember the actual timelines at the moment.  Probably closer to Trucy though.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: The Magi on April 23, 2008, 03:55:19 am
The investigative features of this seem pretty different from the standard fare though, having Gumshoe as a sidekick pretty much guarantees this game can't be bad. Well, as long as they don't ruin the classic relationship between Gumshoe and Edgeworth.

Who can hate gumshoe anyway? :)
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Sarah on April 23, 2008, 06:09:07 pm
I just finally got around to playing PW:AA for the first time and I'm actually pretty impressed. Past all of the uh.. gay japanese shit, it's a pretty fun game. Especially since it's basically a fucking book.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Ralph on April 23, 2008, 06:10:33 pm
Quote from: Kezay on April 23, 2008, 01:13:45 am
If anything, I'm actually kind of more interested in seeing how Pearl has grown up.  Shouldn't she be around Trucy's Age at that point? (give or take I suppose)

I'm wondering if we get to see grown-up Pearl at all. The trailer showed old character art, including some people that should have been older now *coughCodyHackinscough*. On the other hand, I've heard people say this takes place during/after Apollo Justice.

I'm confused now.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Eltee on April 23, 2008, 08:50:31 pm
This game in particular is just after T&T, from what I read.

I believe they were talking about the yet-to-be-really-confirmed fifth Ace Attorney game, which, logically, would be after Apollo Justice.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Fire Mage on April 24, 2008, 07:23:58 pm
I just started playing Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, the very first one...and I have to say...

Fucking awesome game. I'll be playing all the others and waiting for this eventually. I'm in the middle of the second case right now though, and Miles in an asshole. Haha.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Sarah on April 24, 2008, 08:11:37 pm
Quote from: Fire Mage on April 24, 2008, 07:23:58 pm
I just started playing Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, the very first one...and I have to say...

Fucking awesome game. I'll be playing all the others and waiting for this eventually. I'm in the middle of the second case right now though, and Miles in an asshole. Haha.
He's not that bad. I'm in the middle of the third case. Even though he's the prosecutor he seems pretty uh... speechless.

THANKS OLDBAG
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Izekeal on April 24, 2008, 08:13:21 pm
Speaking of Oldbag, has anyone been able to keep up with her when she starts speaking really quickly (auto advancing text)?  It's usually nothing more than a rant but they're (mostly) pretty funny.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: NightBlade on April 24, 2008, 09:46:41 pm
Quote from: Izekeal on April 24, 2008, 08:13:21 pm
Speaking of Oldbag, has anyone been able to keep up with her when she starts speaking really quickly (auto advancing text)?  It's usually nothing more than a rant but they're (mostly) pretty funny.

I think it's impossible unless you pause video of it and read it, youtube probably has all of the cases uploaded by now...

Speaking of oldbag, It's a shame Godot never had to deal with her.  :fogetmmh:
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Sarah on April 24, 2008, 10:11:58 pm
Not impossible, or that hard really. I guess if you're not expecting it, but after the first one I pretty much figured there'd be many many more and have had no trouble catching a word of it since.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Rayne on April 24, 2008, 11:04:38 pm
You think Edgeworth is an asshole? Manfred von Karma, dude. Manfred von Karma. That guy gave me nightmares. Scariest damn prosecutor ever.

Also, I found it easy to keep up with Oldbag's speeches. Really, I found it hard to keep up with Moe's weird rants everytime he got whipped by Franzviska.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Eltee on April 24, 2008, 11:44:46 pm
As I was saying before I got crazed, Moe's rants, in actuality, are the Fresh Prince of Bel-air and A-Team themesongs.

Thanks, American localization team. I guess it evens out for the huge amount of typoes in JFA...
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Izekeal on April 25, 2008, 04:08:34 am
Yeah, some of the rants are extremely fast, but Oldbag's are easy enough to read.  I'm glad she's making a return in Ace Prosecutor.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: The Magi on April 25, 2008, 09:07:07 am
Quote from: Rayne on April 24, 2008, 11:04:38 pm
You think Edgeworth is an asshole? Manfred von Karma, dude. Manfred von Karma. That guy gave me nightmares. Scariest damn prosecutor ever.
Franziska was more terrible than her father. How is it that the judge allows her to carry a whip into the court room and even worse: Use it to attack people? That's aggravated ASSAULT and I am pretty certain it's against the law! I don't even think Manfed's is that bad.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Rayne on April 25, 2008, 09:12:02 am
Well, for one, it's funny (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny). But she and her father have completely different attitudes, she's just bitchy, but Manfred is pure evil.
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Vellfire on April 25, 2008, 01:49:09 pm
Quote from: The Magi on April 25, 2008, 09:07:07 am
Franziska was more terrible than her father. How is it that the judge allows her to carry a whip into the court room and even worse: Use it to attack people? That's aggravated ASSAULT and I am pretty certain it's against the law! I don't even think Manfed's is that bad.

she's terrible in a courtroom-procedure sense but i hope you are not saying she's a terrible person because there are so many problems with that statement
Title: Miles Edgeworth - Ace Prosecutor
Post by: Sapsuker on April 28, 2008, 10:31:01 pm
Man I'm really pumped for this. I remember when I played PW:AA and the first thing I thought about Edgeworth was "oh shit i'm going to die i'm already going against him" and "god damn he is an asshole." Eventually he became one of the most badass characters in existence.

I didn't like JFA very much until the last case, which, in my opinion, is the best case in the whole series. Trials and Tribulations was the most well-crafted, though, and I'm glad that this game won't be set in Apollo Justice's time. I loathed AJ because everyone was generally a weakling and it didn't make sense that . Man AJ was terrible.