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Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Aten on April 09, 2008, 10:52:35 pm
I have a webcam that also has a built in mic. Things were fine and dandy, but I formated my PC and now the mic isnt working. The cam works fine, but the mic isn't picking up sounds at all. I've come to think that maybe my mic jack may be fucked up? What I did was I put some earphones into the mic jack (they work like mics XD) but even then the audio detector didn't pick up any sounds.

So, if I put another sound card in it, will it override the on board one? Will both work together? What if I install the new drivers, and the on board ones mess things up?

Help...
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: mar77a on April 09, 2008, 10:56:41 pm
Nope, you'll just get two audio devices after to choose from after installing (if everything goes well).
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Mince Wobley on April 09, 2008, 11:15:24 pm
Hello I have a similar question. If I have an USB audio interface and plug it into my computer, can one program accept input from that audio interface and another program accept input from the line in in my computer's soundcard? At the same time
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: goat on April 10, 2008, 12:19:49 am
The most general answer is NO, you cannot use two sound cards at once. Even if you could, it would just cause more problems. You would have to disable the on-board sound card in the bios to use any add-in sound card (though most motherboards have this set to AUTO so it's disabled automatically, it's best to set it yourself). Check the settings for your sound card, and double check that you're using the right port. Many a time I have either been trying to use the wrong port, didn't have the port set to be MIC-in (some built-in sound cards do this), or didn't have "microphone" set as my recording source (start/run/sndvol32/options/properties, select recording and make sure microphone is checked, then hit OK and make sure microphone has a check underneath its slider.)
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Aten on April 10, 2008, 12:59:50 am
Well, the mic port is the red one, im sure, and even then, I didn't disconnect it or anything. It just stopped working after the format, and the mic volume is high, and I even checked the "mic1 boost" box. Nada.
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: dragonheartman on April 10, 2008, 01:08:33 am
Usually, when your soundcard is built onto your motherboard, when you install a "second" one, it just overrides the one on the motherboard. I don't know if that helps out any, but that's what I've noticed.

I also had a similar problem where when I tried to record sound not from a mic but what sounds I "hear" (using Camtasia). I played the video back and it hadn't recorded any audio at all, even though nothing was muted on the windows' volume control. So then I discovered a second sound panel that had installed with the soundcard that was overriding all of my settings on the default volume control.

Hope that helps you out a bit.
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on April 10, 2008, 02:00:23 am
For me there is a drop down called Mixer device that lists all the input/output from all of my soundcards (1 on board and 1 pci). Depending on what program you use, you need to make sure you are calling the right input device (in my case... it would be realtek for my particular mic and not the audigy)~
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Aten on April 10, 2008, 02:01:25 am
Well then, guess I'll just install the new one and see what happens. Also the damn thing doesn't have a driver -_-, I hate searching.
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: goat on April 10, 2008, 03:45:48 am
It's always best to DL the newest from the manufacturer's site anyways.
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Aten on April 10, 2008, 11:57:40 am
Ok, So I've done the installation and heres the report.

The mic jack WAS fucked up, because the mic works from the new card properly.

Both sound cards are installed AND WORKING together :D I just click on the dropdown box in the sound panel to choose which one I want to use.

Which brings me to the awesome possibility of FINALLY putting my headphone on the on board sound card and my Stereo on my new card. Now I just choose the old card for headphones and the new one for stereo. SWEET!
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on April 10, 2008, 02:05:39 pm
It is. One thing I particularly like about 2 sound cards is being able to toggle (by picking the devices) whether or not I want ventrillo speech recorded when I fraps a game.
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: reko on April 10, 2008, 02:25:34 pm
I don't get why some people say you can't use two cards at the same time. I use my onboard sound card at the same time with my SoundBlaster X-Fi XtremeGamer. I fucked up the mic jack of the SoundBlaster but didn't want to change it, so I just use it for the output and use my onboard sound card for the mic input and it works just fine.
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: goat on April 10, 2008, 09:59:29 pm
Some games/applications don't give you the choice of which sound card to use, either picking one or sometimes attempting to use both. Not recommended for the gamer.
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Drule on April 11, 2008, 01:10:53 am
I'm pretty sure games generally select the default device.
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Aten on April 11, 2008, 01:20:09 am
And the default device will just so happen to be the one you picked in the dropdown box :D SO yeah, I don't see a problem.

I'll go home and fire up FFVII PC and see what it picks as the sound card.
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: goat on April 11, 2008, 04:56:25 am
If you have both, and drivers for both, there could be a conflict for the default device for some applications. The fact that it is not selectable what device to use in every game/application means less compatibility, and having both active at once means double the resource usage. I can't honestly approve of it. :mellow:
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Aten on April 11, 2008, 06:25:33 am
No, it's pretty sweet. Just played FF7PC, it picked the right soundcard and I didn't even configure anything in it. Every application for that matter is picking the right SC, i.e the one selected in the dropdown box. And no, they're NOT both playing together or hogging resources or anything.
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: goat on April 11, 2008, 08:06:11 am
Guess it works perfect then!
Title: 2 Soundcards at once?
Post by: Grin Tree on April 17, 2008, 05:18:09 pm
Yeah, I'd like to add that I am/was running two sound cards as well.  I had onboard sound and an SB Audigy 2 ZS in one of the PCI ports with no problems at all.  Of course, the onboard sound was complete trash, so I had to stop using it, but I only used it for its microphone noise filtering capabilities, anyway.

The only scenario I can think of with two sound cards conflicting is if they're using the same IRQ value or something.