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Title: Okami Wii
Post by: darkjak951 on April 13, 2008, 06:28:10 am
Okami was released for the PS2 about...2 years ago and boy was it awesome. On april 15th however Okami will be treading to unexpected turf, the wii. Now with the wii you are probably thinking "This is probably a bad port of a good game", if thats what you are thinking you are dead wrong. This game, according to IGN is far better than the ps2 version. The game is like twilight princess but it does alot of things better such as the art style and the MASSIVE overworld map. If you hated twilight princess, dont play this you will not like it either. Loved twilight princess? You will love this game just the same. Good job capcom!
Screenies:
(http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/8778/okami1cg4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/1778/okami2yx4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9375/okami3rt1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/806/okami4pm1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Features:
-Motion controls that make fans of okami feel like it should have been released on the wii in the first place
-Graphics got a slight tweak
-Art style is still beautiful
-Very long game
-Epic boss battles
-Brush strokes with wiimote is extremely responsive and fluid
-Big open world

Now here are some minor downfalls of the game:
-Framerate can slow down sometimes, hardly noticable
-10 second load time, while not bad can be tedious at times

Even if you played/have okami on the ps2, pick this up when it releases april 15th. Not convinced, rent it and if you love it, THEN buy it.

IGN Review: http://wii.ign.com/articles/865/865958p1.html
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: theHunter on April 13, 2008, 06:39:04 am
Well it WAS ported by Ready At Dawn! Whoever thought it would suck mustve looked over that part.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: wilikeh on April 13, 2008, 06:52:31 am
this looks WAY cooler than twilight princess does. I was really dissapointed with TP. Is this one as.. boring?
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: theHunter on April 13, 2008, 07:02:18 am
this looks WAY cooler than twilight princess does. I was really dissapointed with TP. Is this one as.. boring?

Well, Okami was basically Zelda on the PS2... but I personally liked it alot better than TP (PS2 game vs Gamecube game mind you).
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Marcus on April 13, 2008, 07:30:36 am
Okami had it's boring Nintendo-esque scenes considering there was no voice acting mixed with terribly long dialog scenes.

Seriously, this game is more talkative than the Paper Mario series.  It's also surprisingly long (like... 30 hours).
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Warlin on April 13, 2008, 07:38:59 am
See, I'd care about this port if Capcom hadn't shut down Cloverwhatsit.
I am angry at capcom for doing that.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: darkjak951 on April 13, 2008, 07:54:40 am
this looks WAY cooler than twilight princess does. I was really dissapointed with TP. Is this one as.. boring?

not quite, its in more of an epic scale
Well it WAS ported by Ready At Dawn! Whoever thought it would suck mustve looked over that part.

no need for sarcasm, just that most people think wii is a sess pool of bad ports(farcry vengence *shudders*)
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Timothy Musclerash on April 13, 2008, 09:19:44 am
Can you speed up and/or skip the damned dialogue this time around? I can't stand Okami because there is way too much talking to have the text be that slow.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Christophomicus on April 13, 2008, 10:38:42 am
Oh damn! I might have to look into investing into this. I never played the original and it always intrigued me, so!

Are the graphics any better (not that the Wii can really punch out anything SUPER IMPRESSIVE, but you know...) for this version, just out curiosity?
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: theHunter on April 13, 2008, 11:15:01 am

not quite, its in more of an epic scale 
no need for sarcasm, just that most people think wii is a sess pool of bad ports(farcry vengence *shudders*)

What sarcasm? They did Daxter and God of War CoO and look how well they translated the control scheme.  I don't like the waggle but I was always pretty confident that RaD would make the controls work.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Nightmare on April 13, 2008, 12:21:51 pm
darkjak has heard so much sarcasm here on GW that he assumes every positive comment is sarcasm.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: darkjak951 on April 13, 2008, 01:43:45 pm
darkjak has heard so much sarcasm here on GW that he assumes every positive comment is sarcasm.

this is true :/
Can you speed up and/or skip the damned dialogue this time around? I can't stand Okami because there is way too much talking to have the text be that slow.

*points at "Skip" option shown on the 1st screenie*
Oh damn! I might have to look into investing into this. I never played the original and it always intrigued me, so!

Are the graphics any better (not that the Wii can really punch out anything SUPER IMPRESSIVE, but you know...) for this version, just out curiosity?

yep, not EXTREMELY noticeable but the graphics engine is very good for a wii game, hell it would probably look like this on ANY next gen system(just that if it ever will release on the 360 or ps3. the only thing probably improved on the graphics is the quality)
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: jamie on April 13, 2008, 02:07:29 pm
i bought this cos of the universal acclaim for the ps2 but i hated it. the dialogue was a big part of that, i mean, the story was so nonsensically cliched and formulaic for about 10 seconds i thought it was actually a funny joke. and how much of the utterly thoughtless drivel there fucking was jeez louise. now i see here you can skip cutscenes and dialogue and i guess that's an improvement but i don't really care?

supposedly the gameplay is fun and yeah at least the battles were nice and smooth, they didn't get in the way, but i found that i didn't really like how unobtrusive they were because i didn't want to do anything else the game had to offer. it was all so bland.

the only thing interesting the game had was it's style and really that isn't even so interesting because it's just cel-shading with a crusty overlay. i saw that already in wind waker, minus the overlay, and i saw all of the gameplay and everything else in the game in wind waker already. but i kind of liked wind waker for some reason, and i disliked this a lot.

it's like someone trying to imitate all of nintendo's boring shit and then throwing a bunch of superficial aesthetic changes onto it which only make it more boring.

so i'm suggesting don't get it and ignore the game.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Timothy Musclerash on April 13, 2008, 04:36:13 pm
*points at "Skip" option shown on the 1st screenie*
Damn, didn't even notice that. Thanks for pointing it out. Still, the game doesn't really feel like a very Clover game.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: darkjak951 on April 14, 2008, 12:45:04 am
Damn, didn't even notice that. Thanks for pointing it out. Still, the game doesn't really feel like a very Clover game.

don't mention it :)

but the battles look oddly similar too .hack//GU.....idk does it not seem similar :/
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: maladroithim on April 14, 2008, 02:37:53 pm
Okami sucks

I sort of agree with jamicus.  I was really surprised by the enormous amount of acclaim this game has gotten.  I thought it was okay and everything, and it had a great sense of style and some truly neat ideas.  Unfortunately was such a chore and a pain in the ass to play that I couldn't stick with it for very long.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on April 14, 2008, 03:22:57 pm
I am interested in the game just because of the contrast between the acclaim it gets and the "OH MY GOD-THIS IS FUCKING CLICHE!!!" It at least makes me feel that if I play it I'll get something unique from it (even if it turns out to be a waste of my time).

Although I heard the wii controls are more obtrusive than they are intuitivie. Is this completely unfounded, something you have to get used to, or is it just a badly implimented chore? I don't want to pass up getting a used PS2 version for cheap (especially since I cycle PS2 games and sell them back all the time. I like my PS2 being the one system I designate to "mediocre/outdated games I play through just for the hell of it") unless it's REALLY worth it.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Eltee on April 14, 2008, 03:50:38 pm
From what I hear, most of the wii controls are pretty decent. The brush is infinitely better on the wii, although I hear mainly that it is impossible to use the dodge controls. The IGN review shows this.

I wonder how the fuck these people get their jobs at IGN. The reviewer that reviewed Okami is so fucking bad. He has terrible vocal skills and is the most boring guy ever. The review itself is okay though.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: maladroithim on April 14, 2008, 04:19:34 pm
I wonder how the fuck these people get their jobs at IGN. The reviewer that reviewed Okami is so fucking bad. He has terrible vocal skills and is the most boring guy ever. The review itself is okay though.

In a recent interview on some podcast I listen to (lol podcast), one of the former regulars on the podcast who had gotten a job at an enthusiast site and had come back for an interview was talking about this.  He says that there is a fairly large group of people with strong writing skills, but that most of them are more interested in working for the news media and not the enthusiast media.  The overlap between strong writers, people that love video games, and people who want to write about video games for a living is a pretty small, and therefore gaming media tends to get a few bad journalists.

However, I'm of the opinion that IGN reviews are generally not nearly as bad as people say.  I think that "lol IGN reviewers suck" is sort of an internet meme; whenever a journalist there makes the smallest mistake or has a single run-on sentence, he gets blasted by the readership.  Compared to other sites (like 1Up or the blogs), IGN tends to stand out pretty well.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Marcus on April 14, 2008, 05:03:33 pm
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I am interested in the game just because of the contrast between the acclaim it gets and the "OH MY GOD-THIS IS FUCKING CLICHE!!!" It at least makes me feel that if I play it I'll get something unique from it (even if it turns out to be a waste of my time).

The "acclaim" is completely vocal because the original Okami sold about 70,000 copies.  This one might do better because it's on a Nintendo console but I have my doubts.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: maladroithim on April 14, 2008, 06:21:39 pm
The "acclaim" is completely vocal because the original Okami sold about 70,000 copies.  This one might do better because it's on a Nintendo console but I have my doubts.

Are you sure?  I thought that it was the #100 best-selling game from the year it was released in.  I thought it would have done more than 70,000 to make that list.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: J.D. Slasha on April 14, 2008, 06:25:13 pm
Damn, I've always wanted to play this when it first came out (but alas did not want to pay like $60 for it on Ebay) but now maybe I'll try out the Wii version! Looks freakin' interesting as hell.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Marcus on April 14, 2008, 06:27:47 pm
Are you sure?  I thought that it was the #100 best-selling game from the year it was released in.  I thought it would have done more than 70,000 to make that list.

My mistake, 70,000 copies sold in Japan and 200,000 copies sold in America which made it 100th best selling game in 2006.

Still, 300,000 copies internationally is a really paltry sum especially for a big budget game by Capcom.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Cyberg-Ares on April 14, 2008, 06:51:48 pm
I borrowed Okami from a friend on the PS2. I was really looking forward to it, but it just totally bored me. Perhaps my mind was elsewhere, but the intro was horribly boring and long, the sound of people "talking" bugged the hell out of me, everything is ridiculously easy, the puzzles were pathetic (the camera kept pointing out the answers for me in a ... Sun (?) puzzle) and while I really digged the art style, everything was just so... dark and plain in the beginning. Perhaps that changes later on, I don't know, I couldn't keep playing it... All in all... very chore-like. But I'm willing to give it another shot since I admit I might have been pre-occupied...

That third screenshot sure looks amazing though.

Speaking of tp. Tried to play it again the other day. What a horrible let down that game turned out to be for me...
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: theHunter on April 14, 2008, 08:47:11 pm
My mistake, 70,000 copies sold in Japan and 200,000 copies sold in America which made it 100th best selling game in 2006.

Still, 300,000 copies internationally is a really paltry sum especially for a big budget game by Capcom.

Wow, I always assumed it did better than that.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: headphonics on April 14, 2008, 09:00:52 pm
yeah, okami is mediocre at best.  like a lot of others i was enamored with the FILTER AND BLOOM visual style when i first heard about it, and the painting thing actually struck me as being a cool mechanic, but in actuality, it plays like any other boring zelda clone under the sun.  it's a pretty game, but considering it was trumped up to be some paragon of creativity and originality, it's literally one of the least ambitious games i've ever played in my life.  the LAST thing i was expecting was some generic action/adventure game with a few filters thrown over the graphics to make it look fresh, and that's basically exactly what i got.  the paint brush thing was pretty cool, and probably fitting for the wii controller, but it's such a minor part of the game that it doesn't go an especially long way towards redeeming it.

this and sotc were two ps2 games that came out at relatively the same time that i was anticipating as being interesting departures from typical games.  sotc was more or less exactly what i thought it would be and is still probably one of my favorite games, but this was pretty disappointing!  it sucks, because i think more idiots in the gaming media use okami as an example of GAMES AS ART than they ever will shadow of the colossus, which couldn't be further from the truth.  okami is the opposite of art, and it's a shame people let fucking painted visuals obscure that fact.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: darkjak951 on April 14, 2008, 11:28:21 pm
i just got the new GI, they loved this game O.O
it got #1 console game of the month and oddly the rating was a tad bit higher than brawls(in my opinion, brawl was a bit overatted but it is still an amazing game) and GI in my opinion does better reviews than ign but not as good as game trailers so i would listen to GI more than ign naturally.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: theHunter on April 14, 2008, 11:46:38 pm
GI's reviews suck ass.  GT is meh.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: headphonics on April 15, 2008, 12:03:02 am
i just got the new GI, they loved this game O.O
it got #1 console game of the month and oddly the rating was a tad bit higher than brawls(in my opinion, brawl was a bit overatted but it is still an amazing game) and GI in my opinion does better reviews than ign but not as good as game trailers so i would listen to GI more than ign naturally.
i don't know why i'm even bothering with you here, but these are honestly all terrible sources for objective reviews.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 15, 2008, 12:22:20 am
i'm glad i dont know what ign or gi stands for or that a site called game trailers features reviews as well.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Marcus on April 15, 2008, 12:36:59 am
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i don't know why i'm even bothering with you here, but these are honestly all terrible sources for objective reviews.

There's no such thing as an objective review... unless man somehow builds a robotic reviewer but even then you have to have something to compare it against. 
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: headphonics on April 15, 2008, 12:39:31 am
shut up marcus
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: The Magi on April 15, 2008, 12:43:51 am
Actually I am with Marcus

I don't read reviews often anymore, I just go to metacritic or some dumb website like that to see the averaged scores. After that I pray to God that the reviewers are not screwing me and the game turns out to be good. Okami... Is a breath of fresh air from an artistic standpoint to say the least. Kudos to the late Clover Studio for achieving such a great look as they had done with all of their games, but honestly if I wanted to play Zelda I would just go and play Zelda. (Unless this is better than Zelda)
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: headphonics on April 15, 2008, 12:48:23 am
i agree with him in that no one should really be reading reviews as a reliable source of information about games, considering most are terrible and the large majority of gamers everywhere have ridiculous tastes and don't know what they're talking about most of the time.  BBBBUUTTT, given the context of my post, replying with "heh.... true objectivity... is as fleeting and elusive as a summer breeze...." wasn't really appropriate, because i'm pretty sure he knew what the hell i was talking about.  as in, not COMPLETELY 100% OBJECTIVE, but more like reasonably objective/reviews coming from someone without a clear agenda that relates to money.  is this more clear macus???
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Marcus on April 15, 2008, 01:04:51 am
Oh, so now you're implying that Game Informer, which is owned by GameStop Corp and Barnes and Noble, two major companies known for heavy marketing and advertising deals, accepts money and special favors in exchange for favorable reviews!?  IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING IMPLYING!?!?!?

Because yeah, that's pretty true dude.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: jamie on April 15, 2008, 01:05:51 am
but this game isn't even a breath of fresh air graphically! it is cel shading with outlines that morph depending on your perspective and an overlay. this is not really cool.  and apart from that it is all the game really has, apart from this appeal of Authentic Japanese Mythology... and if this is what AJM is, then AJM is really terrible. and if you are into that then okay buy this game because it's not my place to forbid you even though i kind of wish i could. it's just a pile of stupid horseshit which steals from every 3D adventure game and does nothing new at all. i mean fuck the reason people say it is original is because it lifts a bunch of shit from art and myths of centuries past. WELL DONE. i hate this game i want to do something to my copy like snap it up, pour it in a bowl of coco pops and then pour it in the bin cos i don't want to eat it.

christ. i don't even want to dislike it this much because it implies i think it is somehow below average for a videogame. it isn't. there are about 10 videogames which i think are worthwhile, i guess. this is just another piece of shit, and i don't like the acclaim, attention or consideration it gets because it doesn't deserve any of it at all.


edit: okay now i wish i didn't post in that gw way so much. this post is really like that.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Leric on April 15, 2008, 01:50:18 pm
I've already pre-ordered this, should get here today or tomorrow.
I really really loved this game on the PS2 and I thought it was better than Twilight Princess (I liked TP as well though) but I can understand how those who don't like / are sick of the Zelda games wouldn't like this since it is pretty much a Zelda clone (although it's a damn good one). Although I recommend anyone who's a fan of Zelda-style games atleast give this game a try. Heck even those people who like Zelda games but are tired of them should give this a try since it's not completely the same as Zelda and it might just be the breath of fresh air you need.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: maladroithim on April 15, 2008, 03:01:07 pm
Oh, so now you're implying that Game Informer, which is owned by GameStop Corp and Barnes and Noble, two major companies known for heavy marketing and advertising deals, accepts money and special favors in exchange for favorable reviews!?  IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING IMPLYING!?!?!?

I don't know man.  I'm pretty sure that if this actually happened it would leak to the internet somehow through an anonymous forum post or something and the internet would explode with vindication.  I really, really don't think that video game reviews are very far off the mark most of the time and I'm really tired of the videogame reviewers don't know anything meme.

I don't read reviews often anymore, I just go to metacritic or some dumb website like that to see the averaged scores.

Usually sites like 1Up or IGN score consistently around the review aggregator averages.  Considering that these sites always have their reviews up far in advance of the aggregators even having an average available this might speak at least for the consistency of their editors.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: headphonics on April 15, 2008, 07:20:14 pm
I don't know man.  I'm pretty sure that if this actually happened it would leak to the internet somehow through an anonymous forum post or something and the internet would explode with vindication.  I really, really don't think that video game reviews are very far off the mark most of the time and I'm really tired of the videogame reviewers don't know anything meme.

Usually sites like 1Up or IGN score consistently around the review aggregator averages.  Considering that these sites always have their reviews up far in advance of the aggregators even having an average available this might speak at least for the consistency of their editors.
Are you kidding me?  How is this a MEME?  First of all, it's not "video game reviewers don't got anything on me heh," or whatever you're playing it up to be, it's "video game reviewers are clearly biased in a very obvious way and their editors probably have agendas and apply a pretty heavy hand to what types of reviews they put out."  Not everyone's as guilty of it as the worst ones are, but for magazines, it's absolutely true.  I don't even know how you can stand here and act like this is some wild, overrated conspiracy that couldn't possibly exist or something.  If most of your revenue comes from advertising, and your reviews often have a large effect on the amount of money your advertisers make, guess what you're NOT going to do?  I don't think it's too hard of a guess.  These publications exist, first and foremost, to make a profit, so above all else, it's in their best interest to appease the advertisers, and it's not too much of a stretch to say that they almost certainly don't do this by giving brutally honest reviews and costing advertisers millions of dollars.  It's just mutually beneficial to give even the bad games pretty solid reviews; the advertisers make money, and in turn you make money.  Plus, the consumer will trick himself into thinking that Tales of Symphonia is actually a good game.  It's a triple win!

But from whom would the Internet demand vindication?  This happens everywhere; it's completely universal.  You can't just go to one source and say THIS IS DISGUSTING, STOP IT, because I'm sure the vast majority of all publications, online or off, that have a substantial amount of advertisers end up doing this to some extent (probably a pretty large one).  I think you'd have to be pretty naive to legitimately think that MONEY doesn't play a very large factor.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Ralph on April 15, 2008, 07:41:19 pm
I think Okami on PS2 was a great game, and I'm positive that this port will be too. But I can understand how people may not like this game. I guess it's only for the fans of the genre.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: headphonics on April 15, 2008, 07:45:39 pm
Are you kidding me?  How is this a MEME?  First of all, it's not "video game reviewers don't got anything on me heh," or whatever you're playing it up to be, it's "video game reviewers are clearly biased in a very obvious way and their editors probably have agendas and apply a pretty heavy hand to what types of reviews they put out."  Not everyone's as guilty of it as the worst ones are, but for magazines, it's absolutely true.  I don't even know how you can stand here and act like this is some wild, overrated conspiracy that couldn't possibly exist or something.  If most of your revenue comes from advertising, and your reviews often have a large effect on the amount of money your advertisers make, guess what you're NOT going to do?  I don't think it's too hard of a guess.  These publications exist, first and foremost, to make a profit, so above all else, it's in their best interest to appease the advertisers, and it's not too much of a stretch to say that they almost certainly don't do this by giving brutally honest reviews and costing advertisers millions of dollars.  It's just mutually beneficial to give even the bad games pretty solid reviews; the advertisers make money, and in turn you make money.  Plus, the consumer will trick himself into thinking that Tales of Symphonia is actually a good game.  It's a triple win!

But from whom would the Internet demand vindication?  This happens everywhere; it's completely universal.  You can't just go to one source and say THIS IS DISGUSTING, STOP IT, because I'm sure the vast majority of all publications, online or off, that have a substantial amount of advertisers end up doing this to some extent (probably a pretty large one).  I think you'd have to be pretty naive to legitimately think that MONEY doesn't play a very large factor.
grrrrr maladroit im angry and i hate you
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on April 15, 2008, 07:48:31 pm
Like I said before, the combination of opinions that ping-pong between "How can you like this game so much?!", and "Man, I can't explain why, but I really REALLY like this game!" just gets me more and more curious about it.

Even so, I'll probably just pick up the PS2 copy. It'll look good alongside my copy of Beyond Good and Evil that I have yet to finish.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: jamie on April 16, 2008, 01:39:00 am
you pivk up the two copies man and honestly:


PS2 ya fuckin duped



XBOX 360 ya fucking duped
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: maladroithim on April 16, 2008, 03:44:59 am
FURY

I'm sorry man but I guess we just disagree.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: darkjak951 on April 16, 2008, 10:20:46 pm
i agree with him in that no one should really be reading reviews as a reliable source of information about games, considering most are terrible and the large majority of gamers everywhere have ridiculous tastes and don't know what they're talking about most of the time.  BBBBUUTTT, given the context of my post, replying with "heh.... true objectivity... is as fleeting and elusive as a summer breeze...." wasn't really appropriate, because i'm pretty sure he knew what the hell i was talking about.  as in, not COMPLETELY 100% OBJECTIVE, but more like reasonably objective/reviews coming from someone without a clear agenda that relates to money.  is this more clear macus???

you know, I dont listen to half the reviews i read/listen to(i dont care if you flame me accusing me of listening to all chritics, i don't care! I am falsely labelled that here already...). Example: lots chritics hate .hack//GU(game informer, gametrailers, ect.) or persona 3(xplay, but i hate their reviews anyway) and both have huge fanbases who loved them, i enjoyed both regardless to reviews!
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: headphonics on April 17, 2008, 05:48:31 am
I'm sorry man but I guess we just disagree.
this... this aint over
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Marcus on April 24, 2008, 04:50:35 am
Funny story. (http://kotaku.com/381846/ign-watermark-in-okami-cover-art)

So some jerk uses internet art to create the box cover which is downright ridiculous.  Capcom now offers replacement box art that you can order off their website.  This might be worth something on ebay so I'm thinking of ordering one.  They're free.

Art "redemption" (http://www.capcom.com/artredemption/)
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Sarah on April 24, 2008, 05:15:56 am
Man I have owned Okami for over a year on the ps2 and with the release of this decided to get into it

What a shitty game. I mean it is nice to look at (although blurry and the camera is BALLS) but really... what the fuck. AND IT GOES ON SO LONG.

And fucking BLOCKHEAD GRANDE


It's not even fun.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: headphonics on April 24, 2008, 05:18:23 am
look if you dont like it this topic isnt for you so just getout



also ahaha oh god that cover art thing is great
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Dead Phoenix on April 24, 2008, 11:55:06 am
persona 3(xplay, but i hate their reviews anyway)
wait... didn't they give P3 a 3/5(I'm not 100% sure on this) an P3FES a 4/5(i know this for sure)? are you one of those guys who thinks when your favorite game gets anything less then a perfect score, the reviewer must hate it/aren't smart enough to understand it?
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Raimiette on April 24, 2008, 12:16:07 pm
In Nintendo Power they gave this a 7.5 but they stressed that if you can find the PS2 one your better off with it.

They mainly said the control was iffy, particularly with combat.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: jamie on April 24, 2008, 12:18:42 pm
why the heck would nintendo power recommend the ps2 version?
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Marcus on April 24, 2008, 12:23:07 pm
why the heck would nintendo power recommend the ps2 version?

Nintendo Power has turned pretty awesome lately.  I stopped reading around turn of the century because they stopped all the cool articles, comic books, and exclusive content (Star Fox anti-sony/sega propaganda VHS tape?  Yes please) but their reviews have been particularly vicious as of last year.  I may renew my subscription.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: jamie on April 24, 2008, 05:03:29 pm
show me some cool reviews or articles. has there been a change at the top or what?
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Raimiette on April 24, 2008, 05:03:52 pm
why the heck would nintendo power recommend the ps2 version?

lol, you know I didn't even think why it would be odd they recomended the PS2 one until now.  That's pretty funny.

Nintendo Power has turned pretty awesome lately. I stopped reading around turn of the century because they stopped all the cool articles, comic books, and exclusive content (Star Fox anti-sony/sega propaganda VHS tape? Yes please) but their reviews have been particularly vicious as of last year. I may renew my subscription.

I like Nintendo Power if only for their game previews which I think are pretty spiffy.  I find their actual reviews are fairly hit and miss but it's still a good read.  Right now it's their 20th Anniversary so they have some neat articles about the way things used to be which I'm enjoying.

They recently (like December last year maybe) changed publishers (or owners possibly) so things have been changing bit by bit since then.
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on April 24, 2008, 05:26:21 pm
Didn't gamesmasterjasper get fired from GT for giving a game that was advertised on the site a bad review?

Also the IGN logo on the cover is hilarious.
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Post by: Marcus on April 24, 2008, 07:17:44 pm
show me some cool reviews or articles. has there been a change at the top or what?

All of my old issues are boxed up and located in another state but they used to do original comic books (like Legend of Zelda and Blast Corps which was strangely more interesting than the entire game's "story") and they had noteworthy articles like a "game over" section where they had huge step-by-step processes of beating certain games followed by dozens of pictures depicting their endings.  They used to a do an import section that told you about foreign games like Project J (or whatever that Japanese adventure game was with the android girl... forgot the name), Sin and Punishment, and the crash and burn of the HDD.  I also remember the huge hype they gave Quest 64 and then they ripped it apart when it came out.  They also had a section where people would ask questions about the games and they'd answer them (and yours truly was published in a issue in '94 asking how to beat the stupid MASK dungeon in Link's Awakening)

I will never forget the awesome 4 page spread of Earthbound 64...

Nintendo Power was basically the playboy of gaming mags.  They had good articles but posted tons of pictures with captions so it was pretty light reading.  They actually told you about the games unlike other gaming mags which focused on speculation and flowery text that basically retold the information on the back of the box.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Fire Mage on April 24, 2008, 07:22:30 pm
Man I have owned Okami for over a year on the ps2 and with the release of this decided to get into it

What a shitty game. I mean it is nice to look at (although blurry and the camera is BALLS) but really... what the fuck. AND IT GOES ON SO LONG.

And fucking BLOCKHEAD GRANDE


It's not even fun.
I'd actually agree. I got as far as like the "third boss" or something, you fought it in a temple while trying to look for a kid or something.

And then I stopped and never really touched it again. I don't get it...pretty boring.


I might pick up the Wii version from bargain store eventually, just to see if it's any better/funner (doubtful) on the Wii... but yeah.
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Post by: Sarah on April 24, 2008, 08:15:14 pm
I finally beat blockhead grande with the use of a camera.

What a dumb fucking puzzle.

Seriously who can remember the order of 8 dots popping up super fast?
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Cheesy Doritos on April 25, 2008, 06:45:11 pm
Despite the admittedly ridiculous amount of text and story to wade through, and the easy puzzles, this game is and has been one of my favorite games of all time. It's not extremely challenging, but it's just FUN and intuitive and exploring this really giant living world is awesome, to me. I'm not getting it for the Wii since I've still got ~80 hours logged on the PS2 version (it's long, I play slow, and I'm just collecting everything before I beat the final boss) so I'm not doing THAT again (I'll play it again someday with godmode on and shit, but...), but it's still really a great purchase.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Sarah on April 25, 2008, 06:59:43 pm
I beat it last night without getting hit by any form of the last boss even once.

I was just sad sad sad.

fat ammy rules. i got all the beads and s's in everything else.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: Cheesy Doritos on April 25, 2008, 08:02:26 pm
Yeah man that blockhead puzzle was a bitch. I used a camera too.
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: darkjak951 on April 27, 2008, 12:51:16 pm
wait... didn't they give P3 a 3/5(I'm not 100% sure on this) an P3FES a 4/5(i know this for sure)? are you one of those guys who thinks when your favorite game gets anything less then a perfect score, the reviewer must hate it/aren't smart enough to understand it?
I have reasons to hate x play
and FES got a 4?
Title: Okami Wii
Post by: watermelon's on April 27, 2008, 01:25:45 pm
I have reasons to hate x play
and FES got a 4?

I hafta agree xplay is pretty much terrible. Not because of the reviews they give but everytime I go to the game store with my friend and I pick up a game he gives me an adam sessler sermon on why its good/bad. I almost missed out on crisis core cause of that.

(Also Sesslers voice is pretty annoying)
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on April 27, 2008, 03:23:40 pm
The only reason I keep up with X-Play is because for some odd reason, their philosophy on how to rate/review games is in unusually close conjunction with my personal taste/enjoyment of games.

It's uncanny, and kind of scary.
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Post by: maladroithim on April 28, 2008, 05:08:50 pm
The only reason I keep up with X-Play is because for some odd reason, their philosophy on how to rate/review games is in unusually close conjunction with my personal taste/enjoyment of games.

It's uncanny, and kind of scary.

The problem I have with X-Play and I guess the network in general is that they handle videogames the way that trashy car magazines handle cars.  Sure, there is a beautiful car on the cover of the magazine but there is also a half-naked stripper standing in front of it.  Some of the articles inside might be about cars and not about the girls sitting on them, but your impression is that babes come first and cars come second.  Genuine car enthusiasts probably opt for other publications that take vehicles a little more seriously and are exclusively about the cars themselves and maybe not gearhead culture.  In my opinion the entire G4 channel represents that same kind of attitude.