I am better than everybody, except Rakimhaha and he hates everybody!
Prior to Rakim, rap music lyricism was usually rather simple from a structural standpoint and the ideas it expressed were easy and direct. Lines for example always and only rhymed right at the end of bars as in this classic rhyme from a 1985 song by the rap group The Fat Boys.
“ A girl in the passenger seat, me - I'm steering/To make a long story short I was geering/Patent leather silk, credit cards/A pocket full of money, the whole nine yards ”
Rakim pioneered a practice previously unknown to rap called "internal rhyming," already an important aspect of traditional poetry, where rhymes could be found through out the bar of a lyric which added to the rhythmic complexity of the song:
“ I keep the mic at Fahrenheit, freeze MCs, make 'em colder/The listeners system is kicking like solar/As I memorize, advertize like a poet/Keep it goin', when I'm flowin' smooth enough, you know it's rough ”
Instead of two rhyming syllables within two lines, at the end of the lines, as we would find in the older rap style displayed above, we have 18 rhyming syllables in just four lines. Rakim also introduced a lyrical technique known as "cliffhanging" and popularized the use of metaphors with multiple meanings. His songs were the first to really impart rap music lyrics with a serious poetic device sensibility.
Ladies, my Mercedes
Hold four in the back two if you fat
I have never been a really big fan of hip-hop. I guess it's mostly because of all the mainstream shit that is out there. It's probably skewed my image of what hip-hop music is. I can't deny the that the three rappers you have up there are good musicians. I would say Nas's song is probably my favourite out of those three you posted, it seems more emotional to me. I dunno though, maybe I will have to start listening to more of this hip-hop stuff!
I really liked Krs-One and Nas, the other two not so much. Then again, I know why I didn't like Biggie (I don't like gangsta rap). I was wondering however, if you could recommend me some stuff along the lines of Pete Rock & CL Smooth (literally the hip-hop I listen to). I've wanted to get more into it, its just mainly around here the only thing that really gets past around is gangsta rap, so I've never been exposed to any other form of hip-hop except gangsta rap with the exception of what I find on the internet. But yeah, Krs-One sounds pretty awesome, any recs on an album to check out?
I can recommend you some more if you like, either that or talk to Oblivion on MIRC he knows a fair bit!Yeah that would be great.
krs-one, really dude?krs one is fucking sweet. who cares if he's nuts
the guy had one classic album and then fell off big time.
he never sold out, he just became thoroughly meh and insane.
http://www.roc-a-scenes.com/print/10.htm
this is worth reading.
krs-one, really dude?
the guy had one classic album and then fell off big time.
he never sold out, he just became thoroughly meh and insane.
The fan, who became upset after being escorted off stage by the club’s security staff, threw a bottle in the direction of the stage, striking KRS-One in the face and hand.
Despite the fan’s hostility, KRS-One remained calm as he urged the crowd to "Let it go." "Let it go. When negativity comes your way, let it go," said the rapper, who was rushed to to Yale-New Haven hospital in an ambulance.
The legendary rapper was treated for a fractured hand and dehydration, after his right hand swelled up and became painful during the last 15 minutes of his set, at the Toad’s Place nightclub.
"Let this be an example as to how we stop the violence," KRS-One said.
During his stay at the hospital, KRS-One was urged to postpone all previously scheduled appearances until he rehydrates and his fractured hand heals.
Despite his request to not charge the fan for the incident, the KRS-One’s management team and the staff of the nightclub advised him to have the fan arrested for legal purposes related to the postponements.
KRS-One’s New Haven performance was one of a string of appearances the rapper made during multi-city tour in support of his Stop the Violence Movement.
The outing, which includes stops in some of the nation’s roughest neighborhoods, is geared toward promoting KRS-One’s message of nonviolence.
I don't get it. Are we allowed do discuss other artists, or do we have to stick with those posted?
I already love them all. Nas is my personal favorite. The only records by him I don't really like are Nastradamus and God's Son.
Yeah that would be great.
Talk about anyone dude and post some Youtube clips if you have some artists or videos you'd like to recommend.
In 2002, Pun's widow, Liza Rios, released a documentary about her late husband, Still Not a Player. The film features commentary from many of Pun's close friends and family members, details the struggles with his weight, and also reveals how at times, Pun would become physically abusive with his wife - in one scene, he is caught on camera while pistol whipping her.[
I was wondering however, if you could recommend me some stuff along the lines of Pete Rock & CL Smooth (literally the hip-hop I listen to).
aboutasoandthis - I couldn't check those Blackstar videos but did you put Respiration up? God that song is amazing.
As thecatamites mentioned in his Proto-Punk topic, I'm trying to get a series of weekly topics together to de-shitify this forum. (If you are interested send me a p )How can I help?
was wondering however, if you could recommend me some stuff along the lines of Pete Rock & CL Smooth (literally the hip-hop I listen to).fuck me there was suppose to be a only in there.
gatdamn son that backpack gettin heavy yet.
mf doom is a scummy person and has a shitty monotone voice boo unusual gamer.
There have been many allegations of MF DOOM concerts being performed by an impostor (with Doom's knowledge and consent) that wears the same mask and does a poor job of lip syncing over a few songs before fleeing from the venue with the club's money. Though Doom and his promoters will deny any of these allegations, shows in San Francisco and Los Angeles are a few of those reported to have been fakes. It has been rumoured by John Robinson, who has recently been collaborating with Doom, that the imposter fiasco was a purposeful stunt to promote an up coming solo project named 'Doomposter'.
seriously tho mf doom abandoned mf grimm after he got crippled and nowadays puts on fake shows with some nub in a mask, he's a bad guy.
gatdamn son that backpack gettin heavy yet.
really? it was a big deal.
ps if that last part is true it doesn't change the fact that people paid to see doom and he's a fucking asshole. he also didn't go to Rock the Bells if I remember right and didn't refund money.
i hate lupe so much.
like.
you have no idea.
has the world's most lousy breath control
seriously have no idea why people think he's some instant classic.
rap concerts are awesome when they aren't full of indie kids who look at each other with a spark of glee and a disbelieving smile everytime a rapper says WHERE MY NIGGAS AT.
its me ghostface...i...i am your nigger.
There was also beef between Ghostface and Mase, where Ghostface broke Mace's jaw in an altercation. This is mentioned in the track 'Malcolm', "I straight punch Mase in the face over some bullshit". Kanye West also mentions this on 'Through the wire', saying "If you could feel how my face felt you would know how Mase felt".
rap concerts are awesome when they aren't full of indie kids who look at each other with a spark of glee and a disbelieving smile everytime a rapper says WHERE MY NIGGAS AT.
BUMP I had to check out the great hip/hops
MF DOOM is a terrible guy but in his defense so is everyone else we're talking about. just depends whether it bothers you or not, eg I can't stand wu-tang anymore cuz of how they treated this great woman. I still like some of their best solo stuff but I can't stand them for the most part, basically every rapper is a faggot
New leaked Nas track: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QYdW8QyYtYgthis is fucking terrible. he's come a long way since illmatic!
Pretty average in my opinion, he could of made it a bit more serious and done alot better.
this is fucking terrible. he's come a long way since illmatic!
timbaland is a fucking hack and anyone could compete with him.
so many layers and instruments and shit, it's pretty ridiculous. he's all kind of SAMEY which is an issue I have (*whistle clap stomp*) and yeah he jacked some SA guy's music but he's still talented!
it's hard for me to take timbaland seriously as a producer ever since I heard about his stealing. I mean every hip hop producer samples shit, right? But at least they put their own spin on whatever they're using and don't blatantly steal entire songs. If you listen to the original song that timbaland took and compare it to the nelly furtado song that uses it, you'll see that it is the exact same. It is literally nelly furtado singing over a chiptune.
the worst part about it is that he went on a radio show and, when asked about it, he basically said jacking somebody's shit like that was fair game. According to him it's not stealing unless you break into the guy's house and "steal his protools". He also made fun of the original composer for making "video game music" and sort of implied that it didn't really count as music or something.
Blackalicious
Consisting of Gift of Gab and Chief Xcel and often accompanied by Lateef the Truthspeaker, Blackalicious is naturally a very talented group. They've got a nice sound that's reminiscent of older groups, but that could very well be due to the fact they were putting out songs as early as '92. I'm pretty sure that they were around in the pioneering days of "intelligent hip hop". It goes without saying then, that that's what they like to sing about.
Alphabet Aerobics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dJ6xbrWHQ)
Deception (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A0BmbiM53Q)
I think the guy is still talented, so I can't rightfully say he's a terrible producer. he's just an awful human being and I'd never buy anything he had a part in after that stuff came out, but when I listen to that Justin Timberlake album, there are parts of sheer fucking genius production.
because he's so much better as a singer than a rapper and no one likes to remember that period.
also Afura if you make another topic I really think you should limit it to a region or subgenre because hiphop is broad as hell and there are posts in this thread I want to quote and be like UGH GET THE FUCK OUT but can't because it's hiphop in general.
Dammit I was gunna talk about that alphabet acrobatics video heh.
Afura - maybe you should choose a region/style of the week or something and edit the thread for us to talk about? Might keep discussion more focused that way,.
I just saw this topic today. You guys should check out Blu. He's relatively new and basically puts many other hip hop artists to shame. He has a collaboration album with this dude Exile called "Below the Heavens." It's basically everyone's favorite hip-hop album of 07 after they listened to it. Give him a shot if you have the chance.