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Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: pburn on April 20, 2008, 01:21:47 am
Frank Miller's directorial debut is in a film based off his friends hit comic series, THE SPIRIT. It's excepted to arrive this January with a shitload of money to be made. Apparently Miller has been set to direct two sequels also.

Teaser just came out, it looks surprisingly fantastic.

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1585694&vid=225572
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: big ass skelly on April 20, 2008, 01:36:50 am
I can't watch that teaser in this country so I'm going to assume it's this one:


Looks cool.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: pburn on April 20, 2008, 01:38:20 am
No it's this one;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEv7z9GeHdk
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 20, 2008, 01:55:56 am
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 20, 2008, 01:58:13 am
god never mind that looks awful.

hey you know what? let's make fucking SIN CITY ALL OVER AGAIN.

also the Spirit is blue not black and white fuuuuck goddammit now I'm sad.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: big ass skelly on April 20, 2008, 01:58:23 am
Cool trailer but didn't they already release Sin City?
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Lyndon on April 20, 2008, 02:05:14 am
This is kinda like a warm up for sin city 2....then 3. maybe Frank will think about The Spirit 2 & 3 after he gets them all out of the way
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Cardinal Ximenez on April 20, 2008, 02:40:09 am
What are they going to do about Ebony White (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebony_White), I wonder?

(my vote is for Martin Lawrence)
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 20, 2008, 02:52:07 am
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It has been confirmed by writer-director Frank Miller that Ebony White is to be excluded from his upcoming motion picture adaptation of Will Eisner's series.[1]

you could read your own link pal.

although this confirms my dislike of the movie, since Ebony is my fav.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Puppet Master on April 20, 2008, 03:03:22 am
As soon as I saw "LIONSGATE" I knew it wouldn't be good.

It's good to know that Miller's directing is just as one-dimentional as his comic book writing.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: headphonics on April 20, 2008, 04:06:31 am
this uh, this looks okay i suppose, although i could see that filter he seems to apply to every single one of his movies getting kind of old.  it LOOKS identical to sin city, which is alarming, because reading the wiki entry for the spirit, it's absolutely nothing like the sin city comic books, and miller just seems to have appropriated the characters/setting and turned it into a sin city clone, from the trailer.  fuck that!

you know who should get his own [non-frank ][/non-frank] movie?  THE QUESTION.  there're too many gay superhero movies and not enough crime fighter/detective ones.  that guy is awesome, and if they made a decently faithful movie adaptation of his comic series, i'd be pretty excited!
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 20, 2008, 04:50:07 am
the spirit is this lighthearted comic as of late and pretty good and I am pretty disappointed in this because it's just like miller's raymond chandler ripoff stuff.

the question is ridiculously right wing though so he probably won't get his own movie.

that and he died a year ago and was replaced by a woman and no one will make a woman hero. although GOD that would be awesome, just this badass chick beating the shit out of people with no face.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: headphonics on April 20, 2008, 04:52:59 am
was it right wing?  i only read a handful of issues, but i never got that impression.  it seems kind of absurd!  was this like something that marked the series throughout its lifespan, or just parts of it?

also i forgot he died; i think i thought he just stopped being the question or something.  i remember now, though, because the chick that replaced him was that cool policewoman/detective that originated from the batman cartoon.  it's kind of a cool crossover, i guess.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Master Tea on April 20, 2008, 05:16:31 am
Now I've never read The Spirit (although I've always wanted to), but that is certainly not how I imagined it would be. Either way, I hope some of Bobert Rodriguez rubbed off on him.
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Post by: Cardinal Ximenez on April 20, 2008, 07:28:40 am
I would not really consider Objectivism "right-wing". Rorschach from Watchmen, who was directly based off of him, is, though.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: #1 Vodka fan on April 20, 2008, 07:49:30 am
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you know who should get his own [non-frank miller directed] movie?  THE QUESTION.  there're too many gay superhero movies and not enough crime fighter/detective ones.  that guy is awesome, and if they made a decently faithful movie adaptation of his comic series, i'd be pretty excited!

Man, you've just read my mind.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Marcus on April 20, 2008, 09:23:28 am
I don't even know how to comment on this.  The Spirit originally had a lot of mixed styles and dipped in comedy, horror, and detective shit but this just looks... ugh, it looks like Sin City THE DELETED SCENES for Christ's sake.  I'm pretty sure it's the producer who determines aesthetic choices but Miller could've atleast thrown his weight around and said "look, this totally betrays whores the style of the comics and whores characters and WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORESWHORESWHORESWHORESWHORESWHORESWHORESWHORESWHORES."

Miller should also needs to make his television directoral debut by shooting Dropsie Avenue mini series.  Television could use more Jews and photo negative computer filters.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: local_dunce on April 20, 2008, 12:26:16 pm
If Sin City never existed I would have thought that this looked pretty cool but holy cow I can't see the difference.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 20, 2008, 06:14:54 pm
I would not really consider Objectivism "right-wing".

a bunch of selfish people obsessed with cutting the government down to nothing while claiming anyone who isn't born rich should just bootstrap their way out and are obsessed with property relations and capitalism and you think it's NOT rightwing? are you out of your mind?

and also in DKSA, he's used as the foil to the Green Arrow, who is the dirty liberal.

god I hate Frank Miller and I hope this silences everyone who says OH ITS ALL OVER THE TOP PARODY.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Kaworu on April 20, 2008, 06:35:10 pm
Miller is directing a film that looks exactly like everything he does. I am totally suprised of this.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: helter skelter on April 20, 2008, 06:37:49 pm
News at 11
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Liman on April 21, 2008, 10:04:00 am
I agree with pretty much everyone in here (except Psyburn). If I hadn't known that this had nothing to do with Sin City I would have thought it was a sequel or something. It looks alright... as a Sin City clone.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Mongoloid on April 22, 2008, 08:49:01 am
Well Sin City was great, so I guess the more the better.

I never liked The Spirit, so I could give a shit less if Miller ruins it for the original fans.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Ragnar on April 25, 2008, 12:31:14 am
This looks worse than Sin City 2, it looks like some random college kids were like hey let's do a sin city-looking movie here I found a fedora

Also why does the spirit's shirt keep coming off
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Standard Toaster on April 25, 2008, 12:56:01 am
god I hate Frank Miller and I hope this silences everyone who says OH ITS ALL OVER THE TOP PARODY.
well after reading the wiki article it seems like the producer saw Sin City and came up to Frank Miller and said "DO THAT BUT TO THIS MOVIE." it also says he originally resisted joining on the project because he didn't think it would carry on the feel of the comic... so i mean its not like he is on an ego-trip really.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Cho on April 25, 2008, 01:07:39 am
That's a shame. Can I still hold out hope that the trailer is just silly promotional material, and not a reflection of how the actual movie will look?
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Mongoloid on April 25, 2008, 06:23:59 am
Damn, looks like we can't pin this on a director's ego.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Liman on April 26, 2008, 09:09:44 pm
so i mean its not like he is on an ego-trip really.

... maybe not an ego but a taste for money sure changed his mind I bet.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 26, 2008, 09:49:40 pm
yeah dude this isn't his comic, it's still an ego trip to deem himself worthy of his directorial debut to make a movie on a comic he had nothing to do with.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Standard Toaster on April 26, 2008, 10:18:30 pm
yeah dude this isn't his comic, it's still an ego trip to deem himself worthy of his directorial debut to make a movie on a comic he had nothing to do with.
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Uslan approached Frank Miller at Will Eisner's memorial service in New York several weeks after Miller's Sin City was released in theaters, interested in initiating the adaptation technique with Miller's film for The Spirit.[3] Miller had initially hesitated, doubting his skill in adapting The Spirit, but ultimately embraced his first solo project as writer-director.

I won't disagree that he did it for the money.. but I still don't really think its an ego-trip thing.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 26, 2008, 10:55:52 pm
I read the quote dude, but that stuff's clearly in there so that people won't accuse him of just jumping on a big name to create another movie.

they relaunched a Spirit comic book recently, but were incredibly careful dealing with it. the result was something very similar to the original.

this trailer is similar to FRANK MILLER'S version. there's a certain degree of arrogance and confidence that goes with reappropriating the Spirit into your own movie so severely, and I'd say it's an egotrip (although I could use a definition on this word).
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Standard Toaster on April 26, 2008, 11:43:35 pm
this trailer is similar to FRANK MILLER'S version. there's a certain degree of arrogance and confidence that goes with reappropriating the Spirit into your own movie so severely, and I'd say it's an egotrip (although I could use a definition on this word).
you should probably reread the first part of the quote then, it tells basically that the producer SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED the same techniques to be used in The Spirit adaptation. if anything i'd say its the producer's arrogance and confidence in Miller's version than Miller's own ego.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 27, 2008, 12:01:56 am
miller shouldn't even be attached! that's my point!

if he's supposed to respect the material so much, he wouldn't agree to disrespecting it to begin with!
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Post by: Mongoloid on April 27, 2008, 04:30:22 am
This whole egotistical director theme in every topic sure is a real drag.
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Post by: Parker on April 28, 2008, 02:40:20 am
OVER-RATED.

Sin City was a decent movie AT BEST.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: headphonics on April 28, 2008, 08:28:55 am
well, i won't lie... i cried at the end
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: HL on April 28, 2008, 09:35:23 am
This looks pretty terrible.

Like really really bad.


Is the comic of this good? I've never read them...
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Fish on May 01, 2008, 03:17:10 am
You can use the green screen crazy colors and texture effect without making a fucking black and white sin city clone. Sin City was black and white with some color, the Sin City movie style made sense. This comic doesn't seem to be colored that way, the style really doesn't.

Its like they were Spirit = Comic, Sin City = Comic, Spirit = Sin City.

It just seems retarded since other comics like Spiderman have transitioned 'fine' without some stupid hey this was a comic book style gimmick. Anyways, The Spirit looks like a shitty story anyways and doesn't seem interesting at all.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Mongoloid on May 01, 2008, 08:51:26 am
I think the draw is that they both have that "Dick Tracy/Who framed Roger Rabbit/nasty new yorker" feel. It went well for half of Sin City, and The Spirit has it too, in a more traditional sense. Is there a name for that style? Probly the time period but I have no idea what period that is.

Buuut if the comic's creator really wants Miller to do this to the Spirit, can you really be mad? I mean it's his story right?
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: pburn on May 01, 2008, 07:40:46 pm
Buuut if the comic's creator really wants Miller to do this to the Spirit, can you really be mad? I mean it's his story right?
Will Eisner is dead. He was a mentor and best friend to Miller.
Title: Frank Miller's Will Eisner's THE SPIRIT
Post by: Mongoloid on May 02, 2008, 07:49:09 am
Oh ok, I thought I read it was him involved. I guess that still applies for a different reason then.