Most people who pick up guitar give up because acoustic is so boring at first.
pulling you leg son
basically I chuckle at the irony of the way this thread resulted
acoustic can make just as good music as electricI back this 100%
acoustic can make just as good music as electrichello, my name is neil young. hey hey, my my sucks, my my, hey hey doesn't
well if you already have an electric you can just play it clean, or for acoustic simulation get the boss AC3 pedal or similar. i like using a piezo transducer pickup and sticking it onto my guitar body, sounds pretty neatEven then, there are certain things you can do with an acoustic guitar that can not be simulated on an electric. Especially when doing certain percussion techniques on an acoustic that are pretty much inaudible on an electric. You can't really replace one with the other.
Even then, there are certain things you can do with an acoustic guitar that can not be simulated on an electric. Especially when doing certain percussion techniques on an acoustic that are pretty much inaudible on an electric. You can't really replace one with the other.
acoustic is better for your FINGER STRONG.
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but then again it is inri cheetos....
I dont think I have huge hands
Then you're doing something wrong, the right way is supposed to be easierthere's no right way bucko
there's no right way bucko
there's the way THEY say it, there's the way I say it. None of us do it the right or the wrong way, we do it the way we please.
are you going to question tennis legend Bjorn Borg mastery of the game due to his unorthodox tennis play as well?
what the fuck is barreEssentially playing open chords and using your finger as a capo to move it up and down the neck.
and inri get the fuck out of my topic I'm not learning anything from you
what the fuck is barre
and inri get the fuck out of my topic I'm not learning anything from you
Because you don't want to
My lesson is: don't do it like shepperd and ryan are telling you to do, it will make things more difficult.
Based on the fact that I've never seen any decent guitarrist who plays sitting down (or with the guitar in a similar position) use the thumb like that
It's not possible
I wrote sitting down and decent guitarists. Jimi Hendrix was playing standing up and wearing a strap. The other guy is completely crooked.
Moral of story: If you're not Jimi Hendrix and you value your spine just do it the right way
When you use your index for barring instead of your thumb, it hurts at first until you develop an awesome muscle in between your thumb and index (like i did) and now it does not hurt at all and is deeefinitely easier and more maneuverable than using my thumb would be.
I mean, think about it-- in order to play really complicated shit you have to anchor your thumb pretty low behind the neck so your fingers can press down perpendicularly on the strings (which they cant do if you have your thumb high enough to hold the low E of the bar chord).
<edit> is that REALLY RHCP? Anthony K sounds so amateur-- he is singing all sorts of off key.
the point of using your thumb for the low e is so you can (like in the video) do little fills and shit while keeping the barre form. it's tons more difficult to do it while playing barre chords the classical way! also it's not as if i can't play barre chords the normal way. I do it sometimes depending on the song. if you get good enough at playing barre chords like in the video your fingers are strong enough on their own to play the "complicated shit." you don't even need to press down on the back of the neck with your thumb!
as i said getting good at playing barre chords the non-traditional way is much more difficult than it is the normal way, but it's worth it imo!
also yeah it is rhcp that was just when anthony was using heroin
Well, no, I'm not even sure what you are saying there about not needing to press down with your thumb. You would need riiiiidiculous strength to not use your thumb at all as an anchor and even then youd have no fulcrum or w/e so it would not work playing from behind the neck. And if you ARE using your thumb, you ARE pressing down.
Anchoring lower absolutely makes it easier to play the "complicated shit" just because it gives your fingers more freedom, lets you reach further. I'd bet you all the money in the world that I have a further reach anchoring low than you do with your thumb up behind the neck.
ah! i have the solution! turn the gain up until full chords are useless anyway!Riiight, because gain filled power chords sound anywhere near as clean and deep as full chords.
now we can all get along
1- 2 different ways of the barre chord, one is whole index finger over the neck, the other is by using the thumb on the lower E string.
I don't think so, I'm not saying nobody should ever fret anything at all with their thumbs but it's not good to do BARRE CHORDS with them when the right way is so much easier
Riiight, because gain filled power chords sound anywhere near as clean and deep as full chords.
when the right way is so much easieryour first problem is that you think there is a right way.
::sigh:: and the fighting continuesNot really. Mine was an actual fact wheras the other debate can just be summed up with "to each his own".
your first problem is that you think there is a right way.Well... there is a right way and a wrong way to do things if you look at it this way:
There isn't one way more righteous than the other, both get the same job done, when strung both get the same sound.
There isn't some MAN who simply decided what is more right. Being a technocrat doesn't give anybody any legitimacy. Therefore both are just as right.
Well... there is a right way and a wrong way to do things if you look at it this way:
a) The right way: the way that wont fuck your muscles up
b) the wrong way: the way that will cause you to become injured and thus unable to continue performing in the middle of a gig or forever
this may not apply to guitar nearly as much, though guitar does require some intensely fine muscle control in several parts of the body.. but for drummers technique is the most important part of playing because if you use the drumsticks and your legs incorrectly and in a manner that is too tense you can pop tendons and tear shit the same way that athletes with bad technique do. You really do need to play the correct way to avoid getting hurt.
Not really. Mine was an actual fact wheras the other debate can just be summed up with "to each his own".
Riiight, because gain filled power chords sound anywhere near as clean and deep as full chords.
a power chord uses only a root and a 5th. a root 3rd 5th would make it a major triad.
playing barre chords with my thumb
Yeah there are a bunch of Yesterday lessons on youtube and it seems like a simple enough song
I've learned G, F-minor, and B7 hopefully I'll learn the song by the end of the week if I get off my ass and practice.
I also found this cool site where I can look up any chord and it'll come up on some picture with dots on the frets and strings I need to find which is really helpful cus I get confused.
I am really sorry man but that is a horrible idea and you are wrong. That said, I won't try to convince you because you are pretty set in your ways. But seriously man you might be risking injury or something, and if not that, there will be a point that will come up pretty soon when you'll realize that your bad technique has made advancement in the instrument possible. Right now you say I just want to play rhythm guitar dudes!! but you have years and years of guitar ahead of you and it's better to start playing the right way in the first place then retroactively relearn your technique down the line.
youre absolutely right about gain filled chords not being as "clean" (duh). Though whether thats good or bad is completely subjective. As far as clean, full chords sounding "deeper" i must disagree. Generally a power chord uses a root and a 3rd or 5th--cutting out the higher notes. so if anything a clean full chord will be brighter and have more "shimmer".I know very little chord theory (never cared to learn yet) but even I know this is just crap. Play a C power chord, now play an open C. Notice how the open C has bass and treble? I don't understand how you think cutting out the higher notes would add more shimmer- quite the opposite as it'd be far duller.
I know very little chord theory (never cared to learn yet) but even I know this is just crap. Play a C power chord, now play an open C. Notice how the open C has bass and treble? I don't understand how you think cutting out the higher notes would add more shimmer- quite the opposite as it'd be far duller.
playing barre chords with your thumb in no way risks injury, nor does it prevent you from playing them the correct way when the situation arises!
there is no wrong or right way to play guitar, christ.