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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Grogrog on May 02, 2008, 02:31:54 pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_conan
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=age+of+conan&search_type=
So I've seen some interest in this game in the forums here and there, yet no topic, so I decided to make one. :) Played for the first time yesterday in the open beta, and I am really enjoying the game so far.
One thing I'm wondering about for this game is whether or not I should make a guild, or join a guild. I have quite a few real life friends and work buddies that will be playing this as well, and I would like to keep all of us together (on a PvP server), whether it be forming a guild or joining an already well established one. So how many of you GWers plan to play this game/are in the open beta? Any of you have plans to create a guild of your own?
I've got to head out for now, sometime this weekend I'll update this topic with more information and my experiences so far with the beta.
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the problem is that we have a euro and a us crowd. i've already pre-ordered but i'll be playing on euro servers with ds&rami prolly.
i've also played the closed beta for some time but only got to like level 18 because i didn't want to spoil the game before retail.
cool game.
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I didn't really find the game appealing until I read about the Lich class which got me really hyped about it. Then I found out it had some more neat features like player run towns which made me look forward the game even more.
However, ever since I heard they removed the Lich class I've been kinda meh about the whole game. I'll still propably buy it since my WoW friends are like all getting it. Currently I'm trying to decide which class to play; Priest of Mitra or Dark Templar.
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Vesper and I have been looking forward to this for a very long time and everyone who wants to play this... get the EU version.
cu on-line ;]
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Vesper and I have been looking forward to this for a very long time and everyone who wants to play this... get the EU version.
cu on-line ;]
If Im not mistaken, the siege battles will be timed via server time. People who play out of their time zone (IE: People in the US playing on EU servers) may get screwed over in certain aspects of the game.
The game looks fun though, but a few things worry me. Mainly the progression and how the end game is handled.
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I have it pre-ordered and have been playing a bit in open beta. I'll either be playing a Bear Shaman, Herald of Xotli, Assassin, or Ranger upon release.
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If Im not mistaken, the siege battles will be timed via server time. People who play out of their time zone (IE: People in the US playing on EU servers) may get screwed over in certain aspects of the game.
The game looks fun though, but a few things worry me. Mainly the progression and how the end game is handled.
i doubt i'll ever be in a big enough guild to do siege battles :(. maybe ill be hired as a mercenary though
get the eu version
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Isn't this the MMO that is also releasing on the 360?
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Isn't this the MMO that is also releasing on the 360?
It will eventually be on the 360, yes, apparently sometime in 09.
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get the eu version
I'm not even sure if I'm going to be getting THIS game. I don't want to be sucked into another pointless time sink now that I've left WoW.
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I'm not even sure if I'm going to be getting THIS game. I don't want to be sucked into another pointless time sink now that I've left WoW.
Don't get it, then. If there's one thing EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW BY NOW it is that the entire genre is a fucking trap and no matter how WHOAA COOOOL it sounds when you're reading class info on the website, it's going to be another shitty game more concerned with keeping people playing so they can keep raking in the massive amounts of profit subscriptions bring than it is with being a good game, which means it's going to be filled with long grinds and meaningless time sinks. Just walk away.
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Don't get it, then. If there's one thing EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW BY NOW it is that the entire genre is a fucking trap and no matter how WHOAA COOOOL it sounds when you're reading class info on the website, it's going to be another shitty game more concerned with keeping people playing so they can keep raking in the massive amounts of profit subscriptions bring than it is with being a good game, which means it's going to be filled with long grinds and meaningless time sinks. Just walk away.
The things that attract me to AoC is the combat. I could do without the PVE raiding bs and grinding crap.
I always wondered why nobody ever made a good online action rpg (akin to Zelda perhaps); but maybe it's just impossible with the current technology.
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The things that attract me to AoC is the combat. I could do without the PVE raiding bs and grinding crap.
I always wondered why nobody ever made a good online action rpg (akin to Zelda perhaps); but maybe it's just impossible with the current technology.
because it wouldn't make much money if there isn't enough time sinks to keep people playing. (and thus paying) (and thus being a terrible game)
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because it wouldn't make much money if there isn't enough time sinks to keep people playing. (and thus paying) (and thus being a terrible game)
How about a game keeps people paying because it's... I don't know...
Fun?
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Only game that I have seen that is worth paying for was Eve online. Even then after you get really really good at it you can play it for free since they let you openly buy time cards with in-game money. To bad I never got that far since I had to stop soon after I started playing :/
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How about a game keeps people paying because it's... I don't know...
Fun?
keeping a game fun requires constant thought and effort, so that's really not the best way to keep people playing. it's a lot easier to get them involved in some pointless virtual world and then add a ton of repetitive content that you know they'll continue doing, regardless of what big time sinks/grinds everything is, just because they're so invested already. but yeah nightblade this is the perfect mmo that will suddenly remain fun. this is it. this is the FIRST GAME in like ten years not to do what every other fucking mmo under the sun does. heh.... what about fun??? you act like we don't have an entire genre as a basis for why we don't think this will be any different.
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Keeping a game fun requires constant thought and effort, so that's really not the best way to keep people playing. it's a lot easier to get them involved in some pointless virtual world and then add a ton of repetitive content that you know they'll continue doing, regardless of what big time sinks/grinds everything is, just because they're so invested already.
Other genre's manage to keep online play interesting. Hell, people still play counter strike. Is it really impossible to apply this to this particular genre? If that was even possible, it probably wouldn't be defined as an MMO anymore, I suppose.
but yeah nightblade this is the perfect mmo that will suddenly remain fun. this is it. this is the FIRST GAME in like ten years not to do what every other fucking mmo under the sun does. heh.... what about fun??? you act like we don't have an entire genre as a basis for why we don't think this will be any different.
I could really do without your sarcasm.
I never insinuated that this would be the game to break the mold. As a matter of fact, I was stating my doubts.
Reading more up about it, it'll probably suffer the same drag that all MMOs suffer through after you've seen everything.
I've even listened to some pod cast thing where the developers were answering (inane) user posted questions, leading me to come to the conclusion that the AoC devs make WoW's devs look competent.
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Other genre's manage to keep online play interesting. Hell, people still play counter strike. Is it really impossible to apply this to this particular genre? If that was even possible, it probably wouldn't be defined as an MMO anymore, I suppose.
It's possible, just not in their best interest, so why would they do it? And while other genres may manage to keep their online play interesting, it's usually nothing I'd give them credit for. CS is the same gameplay over and over, and so is Halo. The only thing they do is periodically release new maps. It doesn't stay fun because the developers do anything, it stays fun because people who play those games apparently never get tired of online FPS gaming. Ever. I suppose it's more interesting than grinding in an MMO, looking at it from a longterm perspective, but not by much! I'd even go so far as to say that other genres DON'T keep their online play interesting. Using your logic, I could say that, since people still play Everquest, it's managed to keep its online play interesting as well. Only, I'm fairly sure it hasn't. People will keep playing online games whether they stay interesting or not, and that includes both MMOs and online FPS.
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I'd even go so far as to say that other genres DON'T keep their online play interesting. Using your logic, I could say that, since people still play Everquest, it's managed to keep its online play interesting as well. Only, I'm fairly sure it hasn't. People will keep playing online games whether they stay interesting or not, and that includes both MMOs and online FPS.
Hm, well; that's your opinion on the matter.
I was never a big CT player but...
...As a TFC (and TF2) player myself, I find myself playing through the same content over and over. There's no pressure, no grinding, no gear requirements, no subscription fee; just log on and have fun.
With a multitude of classes to play, and map modes; it's hard for things to get old; but now I'm going off topic.
This can't be applied to an online action RPG type game? Include all the siege gameplay, all the pvp battles, and all of the PVE content and remove the NEED for it.
An advantage and marginally stat increase is a really lousy reason to get people to play these things, they should do it because they want to, like playing the next gen version of Golden Axe, only online with some friends. Pretty bad example; but I think you get what I mean.
Put a fee on it, and you can even offer purely cosmetic upgrades to people who do well... but maybe the masses aren't ready for it. Maybe It's just my own opinion here.
Just like you think that online shooters, or any other online game does a poor job of keeping people playing for whatever amount of time.
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It could, yes, it just hasn't been. There's not really a whole lot of large-scale innovation going on in the genre, if you hadn't noticed! We've all gone MAN I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN MMO THAT DID SUCH AND SUCH but it's probably never going to happen.
Also, I didn't say they do a poor job of keeping people playing, I said it's not really something the developer deserves credit for. The only thing SOME of them do is add maps. It's not like they put some huge effort into keeping the gameplay constantly refreshing. TF2 is kind of an iffy example, I think, because it really seems like one of the few online FPS with things like classes and strategy and other shit that adds dimension to the gameplay. But the point was that online FPS aren't really doing anything crazily out of the ordinary to keep people playing that MMOs aren't, so I don't really know what you think should be "applied to this particular genre."
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TF2 is kind of an iffy example, I think, because it really seems like one of the few online FPS with things like classes and strategy and other shit that adds dimension to the gameplay. But the point was that online FPS aren't really doing anything crazily out of the ordinary to keep people playing that MMOs aren't, so I don't really know what you think should be "applied to this particular genre."
Gameplay mechanics, this incessant need to "work" for something that's supposed to be a game during one's free time for fun. At some point developers lost sight of what a game is supposed to be.
People keep sinking time into MMO's because of a need to get gear to stay competitive, but couldn't you just remove the time sink to get straight to the part people want to play?
Unlockable and different (not superior) items are fine, but nobody should have a distinct advantage over someone simply because he wasted more of his time collecting 30 rat's nails, or some such nonsense. They should have the advantage because they practiced and became good at the game. Furthermore, to achieve unlockable material one should enjoy the journey, you can take the hardcore approach to it too; but you could also take the regular play approach. Maybe I'm just bad at writing these things on the fly.
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The thing with these other online games though is that they don't have that monthly fee. You pay for them once then play it whenever you feel like. The developer really does not care how long you play it after you pay them that initial payment. Adding a monthly fee changes everything, because now there needs to be enough content to make people play long enough each month to justify paying $15 to play it.
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Gameplay mechanics, this incessant need to "work" for something that's supposed to be a game during one's free time for fun. At some point developers lost sight of what a game is supposed to be.
People keep sinking time into MMO's because of a need to get gear to stay competitive, but couldn't you just remove the time sink to get straight to the part people want to play?
Unlockable and different (not superior) items are fine, but nobody should have a distinct advantage over someone simply because he wasted more of his time collecting 30 rat's nails, or some such nonsense. They should have the advantage because they practiced and became good at the game. Furthermore, to achieve unlockable material one should enjoy the journey, you can take the hardcore approach to it too; but you could also take the regular play approach. Maybe I'm just bad at writing these things on the fly.
uh.. why? because you dont like it? like 340 bajillion people play and enjoy wow, so im pretty sure the method works. being better than other people is something a lot of people enjoy.
i dunno if ill be getting this, knowing my mmo-addicted blood i probably will buy it and play it for a month then quit, but we'll see. i just dont feel hyped for mmos anymore after the shit that was vanguard.
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How about a game keeps people paying because it's... I don't know...
Fun?
let me know how long something stays fun and why people would keep paying for it after the first couple of months when there is nothing to do.
i'll be waiting.
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ps guild wars basically did exactly what you said except they added to add (optional) grind because people were quitting from nothing to do. and its not even a monthly p2p game.
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If the stuff you do in, let's say WoW, weren't fun, people wouldn't do them no matter how much there is that stuff or how much they keep adding.
WoW is fun. And so are many other MMORPGs. Maybe not for you. If WoW wasn't fun there wouldn't be almost 10 million people paying for it monthly.
+ Can we get back on topic please? The topic is Age of Conan, not MMORPGs in general.
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If the stuff you do in, let's say WoW, weren't fun, people wouldn't do them no matter how much there is that stuff or how much they keep adding.
WoW is fun. And so are many other MMORPGs. Maybe not for you. If WoW wasn't fun there wouldn't be almost 10 million people paying for it monthly.
+ Can we get back on topic please? The topic is Age of Conan, not MMORPGs in general.
will you play it verne?
way to tell someone to be on topic when you're off topic!!!
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will you play it verne?
way to tell someone to be on topic when you're off topic!!!
LOL
Yeah, I had a post up there at the top part of the page. Everyone seems to be at least trying out AoC, can't stay out of the fun if it indeed turns to be fun.
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LOL
Yeah, I had a post up there at the top part of the page. Everyone seems to be at least trying out AoC, can't stay out of the fun if it indeed turns to be fun.
I could've sworn that you never posted in this thread before but I guess I was wrong. Sorry.
But anyway I'm probably getting the CE and that comes with 5 guest passes which I may or may not give to people I know.
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uh.. why? because you dont like it? like 340 bajillion people play and enjoy wow, so im pretty sure the method works. being better than other people is something a lot of people enjoy.
Plenty of people are pretty dissatisfied with what WoW's become. In an effort to make the game into an e-sport, the development team forgot to add new content to pvp; and with the advent of easy to get epics; the raiding crowd is sad because someone out there might have the same hat as them! It's not just my opinion, but it's the opinion who actually really really like this genre despite it's short commings; but are far too addicted to the MMO's to leave until something else good / comparable comes out. (Apparently the thought of just LEAVING never occurred to these people).
i dunno if ill be getting this, knowing my mmo-addicted blood i probably will buy it and play it for a month then quit, but we'll see. i just dont feel hyped for mmos anymore after the shit that was vanguard.
Funcom... Wasn't this the same team that made Anarchy Online?
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ps guild wars basically did exactly what you said except they added to add (optional) grind because people were quitting from nothing to do. and its not even a monthly p2p game.
The free to play style would probably be the optimal model for a game such as this. Have a multiplayer campaign where you can earn little niche items in adventure style dungeons and have pvp on the outside; I don't know - I haven't given this whole thing substantial thought.
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Plenty of people are pretty dissatisfied with what WoW's become. In an effort to make the game into an e-sport, the development team forgot to add new content to pvp; and with the advent of easy to get epics; the raiding crowd is sad because someone out there might have the same hat as them! It's not just my opinion, but it's the opinion who actually really really like this genre despite it's short commings; but are far too addicted to the MMO's to leave until something else good / comparable comes out. (Apparently the thought of just LEAVING never occurred to these people).
because they still like the game even though they complain.
you won't see much of a hit on the WoW population really because a big reason why people play those games are because all the people they know does.
Funcom... Wasn't this the same team that made Anarchy Online?
Yeah.
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because they still like the game even though they complain.
When I hear things like "This game has gone to shit since BC" to every person I talked to (Guarding a tower, talking in town) I kind of have my doubts. I can see newer players not becoming so bored with the game; however.
you won't see much of a hit on the WoW population really because a big reason why people play those games are because all the people they know does.
If anything, maybe the developers for the game will actually have to do something instead of introducing Rep Grind #42 in the new area controlled by the order of the animal farm against the great scourge of the generic undead; where you can earn fabulous epics in the span of weeks of grinding only to not give a crap after you finally get them.
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who the fuck cares about epics its called itemization, as these games progress items of a higher rank becomes easier to get, and the next rank becomes THE BIG THING. Legendaries are the new epics, and you'll probably start to see that in WotLK way more.
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who the fuck cares about epics its called itemization, as these games progress items of a higher rank becomes easier to get, and the next rank becomes THE BIG THING. Legendaries are the new epics, and you'll probably start to see that in WotLK way more.
Hey DN, I noticed your post really had nothing to do with Age of Conan. Would you mind posting a bit more on topic?
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who the fuck cares about epics its called itemization, as these games progress items of a higher rank becomes easier to get, and the next rank becomes THE BIG THING. Legendaries are the new epics, and you'll probably start to see that in WotLK way more.
Once again you miss the point entirely. Being that grog or mog has asked us nicely; how about we stay on topic?
If you want to upload videos or give your impressions of the beta; I'd like to see that. Always looking for more information to make an informed decision about whether or not to even give the game a shot.
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Btw guys, this is sort of an AoC topic, not a complain about an entire genre topic.
That being said, I started getting bad FPS spikes in Tortage on the beta, which put me off playing it. Apparently the beta client is pretty badly optimized and is running a lot of debugger code in the back ground. Despite that I find Bear Shaman and Ranger to be fun.
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Hey DN, I noticed your post really had nothing to do with Age of Conan. Would you mind posting a bit more on topic?
ok
If anything, maybe the developers for the game will actually have to do something instead of introducing Rep Grind #42 in the new area controlled by the order of the animal farm against the great scourge of the generic undead; where you can earn fabulous epics in the span of weeks of grinding only to not give a crap after you finally get them.
still going to happen except instead of grinding for rep you're gonna grind for something else that means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
the only difference is this game has a different combat system where you don't auto attack constantly.
it's the way the genre is
you have some exceptions (Guild Wars) but no one plays them (Guild Wars has only 5 million sales, across 4 games, assuming some people have multiple accounts, thats ~1 million players, which is a very small population for an mmo)
no one buys into those because there's little to do
the people who play these games like grind, and AoC will have it.
the only other (successful) non-grindy game is Shadowbane, which AoC is similar to in that you can build towns. But Shadowbane is old and no one plays it anymore, and even it had grind.
*eagerly prays for a 3d shadowbane*
That being said, I started getting bad FPS spikes in Tortage on the beta, which put me off playing it. Apparently the beta client is pretty badly optimized and is running a lot of debugger code in the back ground. Despite that I find Bear Shaman and Ranger to be fun.
have they said if the beta client has been compressed or not, i really am hoping that the actual full game client isn't seriously 20GBs or whatever
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The whole running your own town thing is what's got me hooked for now. I'll probably give it a go but I'm not sure if there will be enough to keep me interested.
The problem little gimmicks like that get me and my friends hooked, but then we run into the snag where you can't really enjoy yourself in a MMO if your guild is you and your 9 casual chums.
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vanguard had player run towns, btw. well, it was one of the promised features. im not sure if anyone actually did it, though.
i wonder if they did.
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If the stuff you do in, let's say WoW, weren't fun, people wouldn't do them no matter how much there is that stuff or how much they keep adding.
WoW is fun. And so are many other MMORPGs. Maybe not for you. If WoW wasn't fun there wouldn't be almost 10 million people paying for it monthly.
+ Can we get back on topic please? The topic is Age of Conan, not MMORPGs in general.
hey i just noticed this! i think you're too deep into wow to be objective. people don't always play wow because it's fun. i know because i did serious raiding for a while when bc came out! i would say, and i think this is the case for most people, that a large portion of wow is spent not having any fun whatsoever, but rather just working towards something that you want, which may or may not be fun, depending on the person. you're wrong on a fundamental level here, because people DO keep playing a game that isn't especially fun (you cannot play something like a GOOD PLATFORMER or some example of just quintessentially fun gameplay and say it's the same as an mmo. fun in the traditional sense of the word barely applies at all to the genre) if it means they get some sort of gratification out of it. the gratification isn't that it's fun, it's that you get your ego stroked for being the best, or above average, or better than other people, or whatever.
there's also the component where you play with people you like, which might be fun, but i hardly think it's fair to credit the GAME for being fun when really it's fundamentally repetitive and tedious and the only thing that makes it fun is being around people you like. that's like giving a job credit for being fun because you like your coworkers when the job sucks. so yeah i don't think it's too accurate to say that people only play it because it's actively fun. it's fun for a while and then after that, INVOLVEMENT is just a much easier way to keep people playing.
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Tis why I think WAR might beat out AoC since from what I have read, WAR has low grind and is more about PvP with large RvR.
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Tis why I think WAR might beat out AoC since from what I have read, WAR has low grind and is more about PvP with large RvR.
man i dont know dude i read they have like this quest where you have to kill 100 of some thing and then part 2 is 50 of some thing and like it is never that high in WoW or anything it sounds insane.
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Combat is pretty fast in AoC. It might be like those Korean MMOs where you're killing guys 5 at a time.
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@ No one in particular: I dunno, I was a beta tester when they first started their closed beta sessions, and I was severely disappointed. I'm a huge Robert E. Howard fan, especially when it comes to Conan, so I was all hyped about a mature, violent, massive PVP oriented adventure. But the beta was way too buggy, unoptimized to all hell and to top it off, it looked pretty bad. Now I stopped messing around with the beta about 3 months ago so I don't know exactly how far they've progressed and I honestly don't want to download all the clients again. So, anyone else who's currently still testing have any input?
PS: Please tell me they fixed the Barbarian class? It still better not be a ROGUE subdivision anymore, with STEALTH and stealth based moves. That honestly made no sense...
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So I hit level 13 as a Conquerer, and I definitely still plan to pick up this game.
My comp is dual core 2.2 ghz, geforce 7600gt, 2 gigs of ram. Not the gretest PC for this game, but it runs, and is playable. I get pretty bad lag spikes at times, where the game will be unplayable for a minute or two. This happens maybe once or twice an hour. The framerate drops a fair bit every 10 minutes or so, usually still playable. Keep in mind the beta does not make use of dual core processors, and I plan on upgrading before the game comes out. So, that's my view on the technical side of things.
I play a Conquerer, a 2handed weapon / dual weilding class, with shouts to buff team mates around me, and I've really enjoyed it so far. Combat is a lot of fun, pretty much as good as I expected it to be. Skills are pretty decent, although their descriptions and effects, and some combos seem to be just repeats of others.
The first 20 levels of the game is split into 2 parts, mmo daytime quests, and single player "destiny quests" during night time, which progress through what seems to be a pretty decent story so far. This part of the game, up until level 20, serves as the newbie grounds, and the game is free to play during these parts (monthly fee doesn't start until after 20).
The interface to the game isn't quite as good as guild wars or world of warcraft. Usability seems weak, and things aren't very intuitive, but it's not really bad.
I have yet to try any PvP, as I want to twink my guy first. Then I'll try out a few other classes.
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There's too many conquerers running around. :sad:
The game mostly geared to run into a large amount of guys and start lopping heads off.
I get pretty bad lag spikes at times, where the game will be unplayable for a minute or two. This happens maybe once or twice an hour. The framerate drops a fair bit every 10 minutes or so, usually still playable.
Yeah. I think everyone has that problem for the most part. There's some pretty helpful stuff on the beta forums to minimize that.
I have yet to try any PvP
The only problem I had with this game is that it took me about two hours to finish quest in White sands because of everyone just camping the zone and Pking anyone who entered. :cry:
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Having a lot of fun on the pvp weekend. I tend to die pretty often, which I guess should be expected, but the PvP has the potential to be a lot of fun.
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Can anyone hook me up with a link to the beta keys? I would like to try this out.
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Can anyone hook me up with a link to the beta keys? I would like to try this out.
It's quite hefty download (13 gigs) and the game goes live in 5 days (on 17th) so not much time left to beta test it anymore. Good luck with finding a key though. I got one two days ago.
They also started sending early access emails to those who paid for it; also updated the account management accordingly with the client download software. :fogetbackflip:
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My friend is a GM for this (he's been working on AO from Funcom). From all of the things I've seen, it looks pretty incredible.
The awesome things about it that really stood out were the scenery and battle system that reacts to your cursor movements. The models weren't incredibly crazy that they stood out a whole lot. The landscapes and the like were incredible, though.
I may poke at my friend for a free subscription or something. I've heard a lot of great things about it, but don't really want to get addicted to a MMO and waste a lot of time... Hmmm, haha.
--Terin
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For all NA players interested on rolling on the same server, me and my friends and co-workers will be rolling on the first PvP server that starts with a C, if there is none, then D, etc, to ensure we all get on the same server.
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Oh yeah, EU people what kind of server do you want to play on? I don't really have any preference at all except the good ol "pve is for pussies" but that's not a very dominant trait.
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I'll be following some friends to one of the PvP or RP servers, no idea which one yet.
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I'll be following some friends to one of the PvP or RP servers, no idea which one yet.
If you guys decide to go PvP, see if they're willing to follow the same rule I mentioned above. It'd be nice to have as many people on the same server as possible, so we don't have another WoW on our hand.
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I'm going to EU-RP server (which are PVP in AoC) where multiple different groups from different WoW EU servers are going to merge into a big bad guild of domination.
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If you guys decide to go PvP, see if they're willing to follow the same rule I mentioned above. It'd be nice to have as many people on the same server as possible, so we don't have another WoW on our hand.
They're up for it I think. We can confirm it or whatever once we get server names.
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There's no C early access server for US, and my friends are apparently rolling on
Deathwhisper Tyranny.
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Oh yeah, EU people what kind of server do you want to play on? I don't really have any preference at all except the good ol "pve is for pussies" but that's not a very dominant trait.
Me and a friend of mine are definitely going for PvE for now, seeing as PvP seems to be a bit too much free-for-all in this game for my taste.
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vesper and I will go on PvE too, hopefully same serv as Andi!
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We gonna go Dagon ok??
So EU PvE server Dagon.
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welcome... to the age... of BAREBEARIANS
So, how is launch day? Having fun yet? Everything working out all right? I'm not expecting it, due to the high maintenance it takes to get these things going, but I'm still curious!
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welcome... to the age... of BAREBEARIANS
So, how is launch day? Having fun yet? Everything working out all right? I'm not expecting it, due to the high maintenance it takes to get these things going, but I'm still curious!
early access isn't started yet. It starts at 5pm GMT.
Launch day should be smoother than usual because some people are allowed in early trough the early access programme.
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The collector's edition of this game is ridiculous. I saw some guy happily toting the massive fucking art book out of a nearby store and he was wanking to savage age of conan comics in his car.
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wait, did it come out today? someone tell me if it sucks, because the combat looks kind of neat and i want to know if it's worth wasting time on.
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Early Access got delayed by 3 hours (opening 2 hours from this post). :/
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wait, did it come out today? someone tell me if it sucks, because the combat looks kind of neat and i want to know if it's worth wasting time on.
i'll have guast passes when i have my retail box so if you're fine with EU version i could give you one.
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i'll have guast passes when i have my retail box so if you're fine with EU version i could give you one.
how many passes will you get? id be down with that, as ill probably get this eventually anyway (but maybe not if i play it first and really hate it)
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It's one pass per copy of the game I think.
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how many passes will you get? id be down with that, as ill probably get this eventually anyway (but maybe not if i play it first and really hate it)
i got 5. krin want one though but sure you can get one. when i get them that is, should be in 6 days.
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sweet. how did you get five?!?!??!?!?!?!
can i download the game now or do i gotta wait because itll probably take me a day to dl.......... lets have a gander around the internets
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sweet. how did you get five?!?!??!?!?!?!
can i download the game now or do i gotta wait because itll probably take me a day to dl.......... lets have a gander around the internets
i get 5 with the collectors edition, so will ds.
ye the download is pretty big. 13.4 GB if you want to get specific, just the installer that is. maybe there's a torrent for it out already, not impossible.
edit: yeah the early access client is leaked. not sure how it'll work later but there's no cd key with the installation, just one for registering your account.
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Just hit 20, been having a fun time with the game so far. The final singleplayer mission was kinda cool.
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Managed to get up to 30 during the early access. Did anyone manage to get an extra Rhino pre-order code though? I only got the mammoth, and I was hoping to get both siege mounts.
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Managed to get up to 30 during the early access. Did anyone manage to get an extra Rhino pre-order code though? I only got the mammoth, and I was hoping to get both siege mounts.
You can't, only one pre-order code per account, or so I read.
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I've heard both that it does and that it doesn't, and I don't know anyone that's used both personally. :\
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I've heard both that it does and that it doesn't, and I don't know anyone that's used both personally. :\
Well I read on GameFAQs that they were letting people with multiple codes choose which one to keep, and removed the others, with GM email proof, so I'm assuming this is a no you can't!
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Got the game, collectors edition is excellent and ridiculous. I'll be rolling on the PvP server scourge with my friends and work buddies, who'll be forming a quality tight nit guild. Anybody who rolls on Scourge will be welcome.
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Should have gone to Tyranny :(
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Been playing AoC and doing pretty much nothing else since the EA launch. Got a level 35 necromancer, Syrius, on Aquillonia (European RP-PvP). Great fun so far.
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gay u verne for not coming on our server
go enjoy your gay rp
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Been playing AoC and doing pretty much nothing else since the EA launch. Got a level 35 necromancer, Syrius, on Aquillonia (European RP-PvP). Great fun so far.
yeah don't join this fag join me&ds&andi&andifriend&ramirez&other cool people on Dagon (PvE because FFA pvp is gay).
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yeah don't join this fag join me&ds&andi&andifriend&ramirez&other cool people on Dagon (PvE because FFA pvp is gay).
Yeah but you always play for a month and then quit. So I'd be left alone. :|
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Yeah but you always play for a month and then quit. So I'd be left alone. :|
!!!! what grave accusations
let me tell you that i'm a very loyal person who would never do something like that (join dagon)!
all of it is someone elses fault
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Well I read on GameFAQs that they were letting people with multiple codes choose which one to keep, and removed the others, with GM email proof, so I'm assuming this is a no you can't!
I've seen people with both, so if someone does happen to have a spare rhino code, I'd be happy to take it off your hands ;)
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Yeah but you always play for a month and then quit. So I'd be left alone. :|
You're so asking for trouble you... you... finn.
also no we won't stop after a month (at least not me and my friend (don't know about ds/vesper tho LoL))
I think I'll have a few guest passes as well if anyone else is interested.
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Up to 51 now on my Tempest of Set and really enjoying it. The pvp on tyranny is pretty fun, although I'm currently trying to call out the guild started by one of 1up.com's writers.
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Yeah but you always play for a month and then quit. So I'd be left alone. :|
yeah this is pretty much true
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yeah this is pretty much true
i am hurt may tottenham fall off the face of the earth
also that was wow this is a fresh game which i will hold on to. probably.
besides i want funcom to release their fuckan buddy keys!!
PvE server Dagon my name is Lucker btw
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Laaaaame all the cool kids play pvp on fury
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Why isn't this in netplay btw
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13 Barbarian on Deathwhisper
GHASTLY
Hordes of Goonheim
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Level 65 Necromancer on Aquilonia. Fuck yeah I'll kill you all.
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Level 65 Necromancer on Aquilonia. Fuck yeah I'll kill you all.
That is a very high level. o.o
I'm a level 38 Conquerer right now. Still on Scourge. Very happy I rolled a PvP server. :)
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Currently 55 on Tyranny. Cannibal caves is an awesome grind spot.
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this game rules, 21 right now and even though my pc which could run VANGUARD on medium, wow/lotro/cov/etc etc etc on VERY HIGH can only run this on low, i am having a blast
also taking over entire zones and having the first castle and biggest guild worldwide is pretty boss
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i played this game for a while at work but i must have selected the DENTIST class by accident because the only thing enemies dropped was TEETH
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this game rules, 21 right now and even though my pc which could run VANGUARD on medium, wow/lotro/cov/etc etc etc on VERY HIGH can only run this on low, i am having a blast
also taking over entire zones and having the first castle and biggest guild worldwide is pretty boss
Everything I've heard about Deathwhisper so far makes me glad I'm not actually on there.
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Everything I've heard about Deathwhisper so far makes me glad I'm not actually on there.
why
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I didn't get along well at all with most of the goons in WoW, and I assume it would be no better in an FFA PvP setting, that and most of the other big guilds that rolled there already have some hatred of me from beta.
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I am thinking about getting this game, but have a few questions!
Firstly, this is a MMORPG, it is going to have some sort of grinding. So how bad is the grind? This applies for leveling up and for other areas, such as getting good items and so on.
Secondly, explain this combat system I have heard about. At the moment all I hear people say is "it's brutal and you can trample people with elephants". Is it fun basically?
Thirdly, how balanced are classes and PVP in the game?
Fourth, as far as classes go, how much variety is there? Both between different classes and among same classes (can two characters of the same class play in a variety of different builds and ways for example?)
And finally, in comparison to WoW how well designed is it? Shitty like WoW where to do something end game I need a build that deals +2.37362% damage and I need to do about 7 other "near end game but not quiet" dungeons to get equipment that deals +1.66459% damage so I can finally do the end game dungeon I wanted to. Or can I not worry to much about having the right build and all these items but still play decently at any part of the game?
Also, other than supposed awesome PVP and stomping on people with elephants what other sort of features does the game offer that set it apart from other MMORPGs (such as WoW offering instance dungeons)?
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http://www.cold-void.net/cpg145/albums/uploads/10001/Syrius_lvl80.jpg
sup 8-)
http://www.cold-void.net/cpg145/albums/uploads/10001/Syrius_13chain.jpg
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So i'm not sure how long this game has been out but is that your character that's level 80? does that mean its not so bad to get to max level or does it mean you are a crazy and play a lot?
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probably a little of both
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i played this game for a while at work but i must have selected the DENTIST class by accident because the only thing enemies dropped was TEETH
what do you do that you can just PLAY GAMES at work! i always hear people going heh yeah i was reading this site/playing this game at work and i cannot even imagine having a job where i was just free to DO THINGS that weren't related to work. i used to stand around and talk a lot as a server because thats really all there is to do when you dont have tables but they'd yell at us if we even tried to read magazines!
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im a programmer so 100% of my time is spent staring a computer screen. Also, being a programmer I get to work from home a lot. Makes it easy to goof off "at work". I couldn't really play games in the office or whatever but I can read websites or look at webcomics or post on GW no prob.
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I used to work tech support at a cable company, and we were free to do whatever between calls, so I would usually start up some emulation. I'm sure there's some jobs that have enough lulls in business to allow their employees enough time for some games, but I can't imagine something as involving as an MMO without freakishly huge spans of free time.
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funny story: on my last day of a job i had once (this job was bs i basically sat in my own office pretending to code a porn site (i was smart and had plenty of scripts to do all the work for me, so i would only work an hour or two a day, if at all), i played wow all day and at the end of the day the manager came up to me and said "hey so [the ][/the] doesnt have any work for you so this was your last day". i was like what you dick???? then i stole a keyboard and mouse.
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So i'm not sure how long this game has been out but is that your character that's level 80? does that mean its not so bad to get to max level or does it mean you are a crazy and play a lot?
Yes that is me, at level 80. The game has been out for three weeks now (for early access players) and I did play a lot. It's not hard to reach max level, but there are about 10 to 20 levels of grinding to be done depending on how much you do group dungeons.
+ that is our guild city in the background.
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my friend's the french GM for this game, whoa! that's pretty funny, if any of you are french you can talk to him and...
maybe a name drop might get you some loot...
edit: Teron what's your friend's name? I might know him what the fuck.
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probably a little of both
alsowhat do you do that you can just PLAY GAMES at work! i always hear people going heh yeah i was reading this site/playing this game at work and i cannot even imagine having a job where i was just free to DO THINGS that weren't related to work. i used to stand around and talk a lot as a server because thats really all there is to do when you dont have tables but they'd yell at us if we even tried to read magazines!
I do tech support for an ISP. Sometimes I end up waiting without taking a call for up to an hour. And this happens semi frequently, especially on weekends. 90% of the people who work here in tech support bring in their laptops daily.
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Oh god... Either the people "beta testing" this game didn't test it at all, or tis game was released half a year too early.
This game is full of obvious bugs, they are so obvious they are impossible to miss and there should have been no reason they were not fixed during beta testing.
Balance in this game does not exist. Ranger kills everything (and Necromancer gets killed by everything). An example is the Necromancer, it uses 500 Mp to inflict 100 damage, every other class uses 400 Mp to inflict 1100 or so damage (with similarly themed spells), a level 20 priests main damage dealing spell deals about as much damage as a level 55 Necromancers main damage dealing spell.
And finally, most of the features the game should have either don't work or don't exist. Even basic things like stats and equipment are useless, other than Hp/Mp/Stamina stats (and by extension equipment) do nothing. Things like feats don't work, and past level 40 or so there is absolutely nothing to do but grind. (Also, any features the game boasts about having DO NOT exist.). I am willing to bet the only working feature this game has is it's billing system, hahaha.
Anyway, for now I would advise people to avoid buying this game. Otherwise you are paying for a severely incomplete game that you get to "beta test" (all bug reports and negative feed back will get you a lifetime ban on the forums and any ingame problems you may have will be seen to by a GM... In about 2 weeks).
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Oh god... Either the people "beta testing" this game didn't test it at all, or tis game was released half a year too early.
This game is full of obvious bugs, they are so obvious they are impossible to miss and there should have been no reason they were not fixed during beta testing.
Balance in this game does not exist. Ranger kills everything (and Necromancer gets killed by everything). An example is the Necromancer, it uses 500 Mp to inflict 100 damage, every other class uses 400 Mp to inflict 1100 or so damage (with similarly themed spells), a level 20 priests main damage dealing spell deals about as much damage as a level 55 Necromancers main damage dealing spell.
And finally, most of the features the game should have either don't work or don't exist. Even basic things like stats and equipment are useless, other than Hp/Mp/Stamina stats (and by extension equipment) do nothing. Things like feats don't work, and past level 40 or so there is absolutely nothing to do but grind. (Also, any features the game boasts about having DO NOT exist.). I am willing to bet the only working feature this game has is it's billing system, hahaha.
Anyway, for now I would advise people to avoid buying this game. Otherwise you are paying for a severely incomplete game that you get to "beta test" (all bug reports and negative feed back will get you a lifetime ban on the forums and any ingame problems you may have will be seen to by a GM... In about 2 weeks).
It's far from perfect I admit. But things even out towards the end, actually - rangers are considered bad after level 50. There is a definite problem with early level scaling.
As far as getting banned for bug reports, there are numerous threads, and even a compilation bug thread endorsed by FC, so I'm unsure what you're talking about here.
Level 40 is actually when things begin to get good. - plenty to do in the field of the dead and tarantia noble district... Level 50 things get to be a bit iffy. A decent amount of quests, but you may need to grind a level or two; which is while quick - supremely annoying, however if you're on a pvp server If you're on a PVP server, cistern is pretty good fun and there are literally a ton of quests to do in there.
Also, it's my understanding that the only things that don't work are the base stats, stuff such as +slashing damage and the like still works. Not excusable by any means; but not as bad as you make it out to be.
I don't know, I have a feeling once I reach 80 I'll get bored with this game, but since I like the combat and the ideas I'm willing to give these people a bit of time to get their act together; but it is painfully apparent that this game was released far, far earlier than it should have. I still enjoy it, however.
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It's far from perfect I admit. But things even out towards the end, actually - rangers are considered bad after level 50. There is a definite problem with early level scaling.
As far as getting banned for bug reports, there are numerous threads, and even a compilation bug thread endorsed by FC, so I'm unsure what you're talking about here.
Level 40 is actually when things begin to get good. - plenty to do in the field of the dead and tarantia noble district... Level 50 things get to be a bit iffy. A decent amount of quests, but you may need to grind a level or two; which is while quick - supremely annoying, however if you're on a pvp server If you're on a PVP server, cistern is pretty good fun and there are literally a ton of quests to do in there.
Also, it's my understanding that the only things that don't work are the base stats, stuff such as +slashing damage and the like still works. Not excusable by any means; but not as bad as you make it out to be.
I don't know, I have a feeling once I reach 80 I'll get bored with this game, but since I like the combat and the ideas I'm willing to give these people a bit of time to get their act together; but it is painfully apparent that this game was released far, far earlier than it should have. I still enjoy it, however.
Except Rangers basically one shot every class in the game except Guardians... Nothing kills Guardians. As a Necromancer I quiet literally cannot ever kill a Guardian that is 10 levels lower than me. My damage output is way to low, I have no where near enough Mp and the Guardian regenerates more Hp per second than I am doing damage.
And, I did get banned in the forums, for posting a bug report in a bug reporting topic, supposedly for life (though I was unbanned the next day) and was never given any reason for it.
Also... Level 40 is when things get good...? So the fact that there is nothing worth doing and the number of quests you had went from 30 more or less all the time down to 5 or so is some how better? By level 50 it is 20% quests and 80% grinding.
As for level 80... My advise to you is to not bother trying to get to it right now. There is quiet literally nothing to do. As mentioned, stats don't work, so by extension the majority of equipment does not work. And even stranger is how poor most equipment is. A level 80 super rare set of armor that could take you weeks of grinding to get can quiet literally be worse than the suit of armor you get for completing the Tortage storyline (I am not joking either). It is quiet common for the common equipment that is sold in shops or the stuff most every humanoid drops to be better than the super rare "end game equipment".
And honestly... The game is lacking most of the features it boasted about. Even though the case says "ENHANCED FOR DIRECT X 10" the game does not support DirectX 10 yet and supposedly wont until the end of the year. (Where I live doing things like this is actually false advertisement and a crime, if someone reported Funcom to trading standards they would face massive fines and have to recall all the games they have shipped and reprint them to give out truthful information.)
So yeah, my advise is for now to avoid the game. It is lacking half of the things it should have, and the things it does have are either bugged, don't work or seriously unbalanced. Wait until the end of the year, hopefully they will have gotten their shit together and have a game that is worth playing.
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Ok I just bought this shit and don't really know anybody playing it so I'd like to play with any GWers if I can.
I wanna play on a pvp server though, fuck that faggy enviro shit. So gimme a server name and some usernames so we can meet up and shit. goddamnit I guess Dagon is where its at, but can I kill whoever I want there or is it like pvp events only because that shit is lame.
Also aslo I'm having trouble picking between a demonologist and necromancer but I'm leaning toward necro because if they're anything remotely similar to l2 necros then they're fucking badass.
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Ok I just bought this shit and don't really know anybody playing it so I'd like to play with any GWers if I can.
I wanna play on a pvp server though, fuck that faggy enviro shit. So gimme a server name and some usernames so we can meet up and shit. goddamnit I guess Dagon is where its at, but can I kill whoever I want there or is it like pvp events only because that shit is lame.
Also aslo I'm having trouble picking between a demonologist and necromancer but I'm leaning toward necro because if they're anything remotely similar to l2 necros then they're fucking badass.
Damn. Fuck yeah. I'm down to fuck shit up. Fuck. Ah damn, hell yeah. Rock and roll. That's the shit!
On the comments about the game being unfinished, well, yeah. Unfortunately it's really not too uncommon for MMORPGs to be pushed out months before they should be! They can spend years in development while funding dries up, and there comes a breaking point where it's time to shit or get off the pot. I think Vanguard is the easiest example to use - It has been in development for practically as long as Everquest has been around. Unfortunately, its financial backers were getting restless and Sigil wasn't ready to release. It almost folded until Sony Online Entertainment stepped in, but their condition for restoring funding to the project was that a specific deadline was set and the game would be released by that deadline -- finished or not. This lead to a pretty infamous BOONDOGGLE of epic MMORPG proportions where a game went gold with bugs as ridiculous as weapons and armour not appearing on certain races and performance so bad that not even the hottest hardware at the time could run the game smoothly. It screamed unfinished but the GREEDY CORPORATE SHAREHOLDERS demanded their ducats.
I don't know if that happened here, but AoC HAS been in development for a long long time, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of pressure to go gold or fold up shop. it's no excuse, it just seems to be the way of it. This whole online gaming thing IS a business first and foremost.
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Not sure if you guys picked a server, but I'm rolled on Scourge. A few of my friends are going to be rolling on here shortly, so chances are I will be creating a new character soon. :) If you guys are interested in joining my guild we've got a pretty decent bunch, all very helpful, with a vent server.
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Man this game is pretty cool.
lvl 15 necro and I'm raping most everything ISURE WISH I HAD PPL TO PLAY WITH HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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I started playing this, and despite its many bugs I am quite enjoying it. However I'm only lv30 and most things I've seen/heard says it falls apart a bit at later levels, hopefully FC will add more content. Currently playing a Herald of Xotli.
But yeah, graphically its superb, and the base combat system is nice also. It is also the first MMO that has managed to interest me since WoW came out 3 years ago.
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If someone has a guest pass i would love one thanks!
PM me ^__^;;
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I heard they released buddy keys (guest passes) in US but they're still waiting for "more capacity" over here in Europe. :/
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US would be preferable anyway. seriously i will suck so much dick for one of dem keys
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let me ask some people because I won't play it but I bet they'll give me one if I ask (and they got them)
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awesome let me know :fogetcool: brotha :fogetcool:
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I just checked and they aren't in effect in the US yet, I'll keep checking though but remind me in pm or something when they come out and I'll give you mine.
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So apparently you have to pay for your first month, and then the buddy pass becomes available on your account page. Lame, but at least i know when they're available i guess!
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i want a buddy key too :(
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Yea well my pals didn't have shit so you were fucked either way. Sorry buds!
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quit and sold my account the game his really dissapointing.
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RETURN FROM THE DEAD!
Yeah, never played this, but I was wondering if this is MMO is as bad as everyone makes it seem. Its apparently horrible and shouldn't be touched.
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buddy skip these two crappy mmos you just necro'd and get warhammer
its the only sane choice just save yourself time
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RETURN FROM THE DEAD!
Yeah, never played this, but I was wondering if this is MMO is as bad as everyone makes it seem. Its apparently horrible and shouldn't be touched.
It's not nearly as bad as people say it is. Even with all of it's flaws and problems it's way better than most free MMORPGs. While the content is still rather lacking the PvP is FUN and the PvE isn't that bad either. There's a serious lack of quests after about level 45 (max level being 80) but if you make it to the end game you've got two tiers of raiding. The gameplay is a lot more fun than the usual passive wait for cooldowns style all other MMORPGs seem to use.
There's also big plans for PvP system (pvp levels, criminal system etc) coming and some new zones for more quests and dungeons, but Funcom is taking their time with them (way too long...).
But if I had to recommend one of the big three (WoW, WAR and AoC) I'd currently go with WAR.
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It's not nearly as bad as people say it is. Even with all of it's flaws and problems it's way better than most free MMORPGs. While the content is still rather lacking the PvP is FUN and the PvE isn't that bad either. There's a serious lack of quests after about level 45 (max level being 80) but if you make it to the end game you've got two tiers of raiding. The gameplay is a lot more fun than the usual passive wait for cooldowns style all other MMORPGs seem to use.
There's also big plans for PvP system (pvp levels, criminal system etc) coming and some new zones for more quests and dungeons, but Funcom is taking their time with them (way too long...).
But if I had to recommend one of the big three (WoW, WAR and AoC) I'd currently go with WAR.
I don't know man. After all the horrible bugs in that game (like socket stacking and respeccing and dropping your profession at the same time), and the fact that they've been promising a pvp system for like 4 months now, plus the fact that their stock ratings have been going from 55 to 5 euro or whatever. Oh, and then there's also the fact that the moderators of Funcom's forums will ban you, or at least warn you for mentioning ANYTHING bad about Age of Conan. There was even a case where they edited a copy-pasted review from a Swedish site (which was copy-pasted and translated in a thread), and removed the parts where the reviewer said what he didn't like about the game. I really wanted to enjoy that game too, but after that I just pretty much lost faith in Funcom.
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I don't know man. After all the horrible bugs in that game (like socket stacking and respeccing and dropping your profession at the same time), and the fact that they've been promising a pvp system for like 4 months now, plus the fact that their stock ratings have been going from 55 to 5 euro or whatever. Oh, and then there's also the fact that the moderators of Funcom's forums will ban you, or at least warn you for mentioning ANYTHING bad about Age of Conan. There was even a case where they edited a copy-pasted review from a Swedish site (which was copy-pasted and translated in a thread), and removed the parts where the reviewer said what he didn't like about the game. I really wanted to enjoy that game too, but after that I just pretty much lost faith in Funcom.
Well it's not the OMFG AWESOME BBQ game it was hyped to be, but it's also nowhere near the OMG CRAPPIEST GAME EVER title either. Even though Funcom might be a bunch of retards they did manage to do some things right. It's not a dead end game but it has it's problems. The game IS playable and it IS fun to play. Just because it wasn't the next WoW doesn't mean it's a total failure.