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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Marcus on May 14, 2008, 06:37:24 am
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A lot of super hero movies coming out this year and I'm surprised no one is talking about Hancock.
lol trailer here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icJ-qNA5wpg)
It's about Will Smith playing a alchoholic introverted super hero with no respect for authority or regards of his own strength. His best friend or whatever suggests he pulls a "rapper" move by going to jail and as the city turns to shit they release him and he tries to reform.
Dumb plot but the movie looks absolutely hilarious and Smith is at his top when he's playing an asshole. I love humorous action movies and this doesn't look nearly as ridiculous or stupid as my Super Ex-Girlfriend so shit, it's got me sold.
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Actually, I've known about this for a long time (superhero buff what), but I specifically didn't mention it because it does indeed look like Super-Ex-Girlfriend.
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I want to see this madly.
Also, Super Ex Girlfriend was stupid as shit... The only good scene was the shark one.
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I was gonna make a topic about this but since my topic making skillz are shit I didn't.
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this looks awesome. i'm a pretty big fan of my boy the fresh prince, so yeah!
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oh wow how come i haven't heard of this. this looks really great, just the whole premise of a REAL GUY SUPERHERO. it's totally true that if an ordinary dude had superpowers he would probably be a total dick with them
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the moment i saw this in the cinema i had to see it. It looks really funny and i like funny films so its all good in my opinion and i think Mr. smith plays humoures roles better then his serious roles
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i had pretty much this exact frickin idea and now i can't do it cos will smith done it. well i hope it's good but it's will smith so i don't think it will be. it'll probably be entertaining in a really stupid and disappointing waste of an opportunity kind of way. unless old will pulls out a surprise!
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i guess the premise is sort of cool but i saw the old trailer and, watching this new one, it doesn't look especially good to me! i heard NORMAL GUY SUPERHERO and my mind instantly went to marvelous bob but this actually looks sort of lame and like the type of movie the audience would just fucking be in hysterics over at every unfunny line. looooooooool he punched the kid so funy so funy
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i just watched the trailer and yeah this is pretty much what i feared it would be, i guess. it looks like haha he's an alkie until the reform and then it's just superhero bullshit. i'm gonna watch it, but i guess i was hoping it would be more serious and less generic.
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I would be so much drunker than that if I was a super hero. It would be like Winston Churchill bending pipes.
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I think it looks pretty decent. Call me crazy, but I usually like most of Will Smith's performances.
So...lookin' like a good year for Summer blockbusters.
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From the trailer I saw it looked really terrible.
Maybe I just saw a bad trailer.
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The first trailer made it look a lot better, but now it just looks generic.
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Aw man, sony pictures is really pissing me off.
Apparently, the original script was GOLD and it was pretty "gritty." The trailers make it look like a superhero comedy but it's actually more of an action/romance as the main character falls into an awkward relationship with the wife of the man who's trying to improve his image. It was rated R by the MPAA twice and now they're resubmitting it with a bunch of scenes cut including drunk driving, Hancock drinking with a 12 year old, a rape scene, and bits of violence that were meant to enhance Hancock's character (the kid he punches originally falls back down bloody and ice is covering him or something).
God I hate this shit. The director and producer want to keep the script unchanged and normally the producer has a huge input in the direction of the film but the actual production/distribution guys at Sony are putting their foot down saying this HAS TO BE pg-13 or else it will instantly fail in the box office.
This is why I hate fucking summers. Nothing but generic overpaid shit and family films. You always have to wait until fall for the good films to come out.
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You know what I like about all Will Smith Movies? they are all at least watchable. So I'm gonig to see this because will smith makes me laugh, I really don't care if its some "awsome movie" I just enjoy seeing will smith act.
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speaking of humorous action movies, I think Crank is the best at that. man I had such quality time
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yeah i read the old ngo script and i liked it a lot! there's some genuinely funny moments but they mainly serve to break up the whole brooding, stormy mood. it's a far cry from what the trailers show.
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Will Smith's the man, so I'm watcchin this, no matter what. :)
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speaking of humorous action movies, I think Crank is the best at that. man I had such quality time
we need to hang out sometime
I'll be watching this even though I think the end when he gets less drunk and more, well, superhero, will kind of suck. But hey the rest looks like good times.
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yeah i don't think it looks that great either, just looks like a run of the mill action/comedy movie, with stuff like panda said, poor jokes but people are in hysterics over them.
also i hate super hero movies that VASTLY unrealistic and i don't mean the superpowers and all that. example is when he throws/punches that kid up in the air and he falls back down, that kid would have died, there is no way around that he, if he punched him that fucking hard he would have shattered his skull/jaw and when he caught him the force of the impact would have broken his ribs/back/etc, i can get that hes flying but it just seems really unrealistic to have normal people surviving super powers like that
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Call me crazy, but I'm looking forward to this movie. I think it looks like a "popcorn" movie, something that's fun to watch and doesn't require thinking. Something that just a great time waster[which ][/which].
By the way where can you go to read the original script before it was editted? I've a few people talking about it.
Also the little that he catches was not punched... In the trailer it looks like he simply threw him into the air.
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God I hate this shit. The director and producer want to keep the script unchanged and normally the producer has a huge input in the direction of the film but the actual production/distribution guys at Sony are putting their foot down saying this HAS TO BE pg-13 or else it will instantly fail in the box office.
On the other hand I can't forget when I read that the original ending of Clockwork Orange was HE GETS BETTER
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I really like Will Smith and this film looks properly good so i'm looking forward to it.
The trailer was quality if nothing else.
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I'll be watching this for sure as Will Smith gives a great performance in his films. I suspect this film to be great, and I have no doubt it will big one of the biggest sellers of the year. Smith just got better and better after I, Robot so even if the plot is dull and the film goes to crap I easily see this movie raking in a large wad of green in the box office.
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On the other hand I can't forget when I read that the original ending of Clockwork Orange was HE GETS BETTER
he does get better, in the book. its part of burgess' prose, that he'd outgrow it. so its really not unbelievable that it was the original ending in the film...
I'm going to go see Hancock, eventually. The trailers entice me for whatever reason, and Will Smith rarely puts out a poor performance. Should be fun, anyway.
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I just saw it, it was a really fun movie and some stuff happens that I didn't expect. It wasn't Iron Man or Hulk awesome but it was still good imo.
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yeah i just saw this too! i haven't seen iron man or hulk yet so i can't really compare but i thought it was really good! it had some pretty big twists but it was also really funny. i give it 8/10 dapp
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am i the only one who thought that the whole wife is a superhero too lol was predictable? after that it seemed to get a bit cheezy and prettty much shat all over the original premise which was what drew me to the movie in the first place.
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Even though the twist as missingno also agrees with was pretty predictable I still thought that Smith gave a nice performance and was an overall great movie experience. I would like to compare it to the likes of this years other superhero films, but it's really not the same level as other superhero films. I am not saying it's NOT a superhero film, but I am not saying it IS a superhero film.
Overall the movie was a great film overall that alot of people can sink into and was just a good movie in general.
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am i the only one who thought that the whole wife is a superhero too lol was predictable? after that it seemed to get a bit cheezy and prettty much shat all over the original premise which was what drew me to the movie in the first place.
idk i thought the end of the movie was pretty cool! i know nothing about the original premise so. it might have been cheesy or whatever but i thought it was really well done and idk, cool!
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I knew about the super wife thing from the trailers but I always thought that she was gonna be like the villian.
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Oh man, didn't like it at all! It was weird; superhero movies can make their own rules on realism, but man, this movie just took it and shook around ending up making no sense what so ever. Not enough BACKSTORY either. Bad for a WILL SMITH film.
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why are people saying the ending made no sense. it made perfect sense to me!
i am pretty surprised that this movie has gotten pretty bad reviews!
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Oh man, didn't like it at all! It was weird; superhero movies can make their own rules on realism, but man, this movie just took it and shook around ending up making no sense what so ever. Not enough BACKSTORY either. Bad for a WILL SMITH film.
I agree with the ending thing and yeah they shouldve made the movie a bit longer to include more backstory.
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am i the only one who thought that the whole *spoiler*
One of the trailers gave it away. Silly marketing department :(
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speaking of humorous action movies, I think Crank is the best at that. man I had such quality time
yeah that was a pretty bizarre/funny film.
wasn't there a scene where it turned into an old video game or something?
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i just saw it and idk it was better than i expected in some ways
like i thought his character would be LOVABLE ASSHOLE LOL but he was really just kind of a regular old asshole, which i thought was pretty good. DRANK, SWORE, KILLED PEOPLE. but i thought the INNER TURMOIL//PAIN shit was pretty poorly realized, and when they started explaining his origins i thought it got convoluted and kind of dumb. like... i really didn't understand a lot of what they explained.
first of all, god(s) just MAKING SUPERHEROES IN PAIRS is honestly kind of a dumb premise! especially if the only point is so they find each other and grow old as mortals. did anyone really think this was good??? also if they get near each other then grow old and die, why is it they were together in 4 bc for him to save her from whoever, and then together again in 1850 for him to save her again, and then AGAIN in 1920? shouldn't they have died sometime around the FIRST CENTURY? why are the still immortal if they were together in 4 bc, 1850, and 1920? i guess you could explain it by them intentionally parting ways so they wouldn't die but that's the point; it's poorly explained. they just say shit and don't go into any further detail when they should, and it comes off pretty nonsensically.
also, for being lovers throughout the past 2,000 years, why does she treat him like shit and pretend she doesn't know him? i sort of thought this was kind of lacking in realism as considering their past, i don't think think that's how she would've handled the situation (heh if my husband finds out about me YOUR DEAD BUCKO).
and at the end why is the moon red? what did he do to it?
anyway, it was okay i guess. he cut that guy's hand off and then killed those other dudes and i got a kick out of that, because i definitely expected the character to be more of a family friendly jackass. i also dug that there wasn't really any villain, just SELF-DISCOVERY, which is a pretty cool idea for a superhero movie i think. plus i'm a fan of bittersweet endings so him just having to GO AWAY and forget about her was nicer than some random happyending shit, although i guess it was still a pretty happy ending. still though, it's not really the premise i had a problem with so much as the execution and the actual plotting. it was OKAY but mostly i thought it was pretty mediocre and it wasn't especially funny at all for the most part, and the latter half of the movie got pretty schmaltzy and convoluted. it could've been a way better movie had it been handled differently!
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and at the end why is the moon red? what did he do to it?
it was a heart on the moon dude
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no stupid i mean why is it the color red. the moon isn't red. did he haul MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF PAINT up to the moon?
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no stupid i mean why is it the color red. the moon isn't red. did he haul MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF PAINT up to the moon?
Hancock put the symbol for the other guys earth saving thingy on the moon which was a red heart.
And no need to get your panties in a bunch.
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kfadjfkdajl why are you doing this
how is it red? yes i get that it is the organization's symbol because it's shown about 50 times throughout the movie, but how is it red ON THE MOON?
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kfadjfkdajl why are you doing this
how is it red? yes i get that it is the organization's symbol because it's shown about 50 times throughout the movie, but how is it red ON THE MOON?
You mean how did he get it red... :fogetlaugh: I guess he painted it.
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Haha, your sacrasm is actually what actually happened. He took PAINT and painted the moon the symbol of ALL HEART.
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movie was good. it didn't need a super villain because the super villain was Hancock's inner being. Man against himself if you will, battling with being an asshole drunkard or being the good guy. movie does not need a sequel, because a sequel wouldn't be doing the same thing. This is an origin story, but the mood of the thing is for the darky asshole type deal, which he no longer is, so a sequel sucks. i also commend will smith for not being will smith for once.
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will smith acted exactly like will smith what the hell are you talking about
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will smith acted exactly like will smith what the hell are you talking about
normally he plays the FUNNY GUY though like even in INDEPENDENCE DAY he was A FUNNY GUY. hey aliens are trying to kill us *makes joke in alien spaceship inside stupid alien mothership*. this is like the one movie where he wasn't genuinely trying to be the funny guy because Hancock isn't supposed to be funny. he wasn't making jokes all the time he was fairly serious through out it all.
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call me an asshole one more tme.........
DO I HAVE PERMISSION TO TOUCH YOUR BODY???
it chafes a little lol...
yeah man it was a regular schindler's list
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yeah but i mean all of those play into the character though. being a drunk asshole he gets called asshole a lot and doesn't like it, and probably harassed a lot of women (touching the ones chick ass at the start etc).
whereas noirmally its all "lol not until the fat lady sings man...." or whatever the fuck the joke was in indepdence day and [insert ][/insert].
idk it felt different, more like the character less like smith. it's pretty believable that a drunk asshole who is a superhero would say shit, imo.
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Yeah, I'm with Lamb, Hancock wasn't really an intentionally funny guy. Most of the time I was laughing at how out of tune he was with the rest of the world.
first of all, god(s) just MAKING SUPERHEROES IN PAIRS is honestly kind of a dumb premise! especially if the only point is so they find each other and grow old as mortals. did anyone really think this was good??? also if they get near each other then grow old and die, why is it they were together in 4 bc for him to save her from whoever, and then together again in 1850 for him to save her again, and then AGAIN in 1920? shouldn't they have died sometime around the FIRST CENTURY? why are the still immortal if they were together in 4 bc, 1850, and 1920? i guess you could explain it by them intentionally parting ways so they wouldn't die but that's the point; it's poorly explained. they just say shit and don't go into any further detail when they should, and it comes off pretty nonsensically.
also, for being lovers throughout the past 2,000 years, why does she treat him like shit and pretend she doesn't know him? i sort of thought this was kind of lacking in realism as considering their past, i don't think think that's how she would've handled the situation (heh if my husband finds out about me YOUR DEAD BUCKO).
and at the end why is the moon red? what did he do to it?
I never understood that either. So since they're separate, that means she'll eventually outlive her husband (and his child, etc), but everyone seems to be okay with this. It would be total torture to see your husband old and dying while you still look young and beautiful. And what if she decides to have a kid of her own?
I don't think they should've made her a hero. If they absolutely needed someone else with powers, they should've made her a villain.
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I saw this tonight and didn't really like it. The whole plot turn pretty much blew.
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I just saw this.. It was ok, funnier then I expected but that stupid fucken twist just killed what was a good start to the movie. Still watchable though and Will Smith is always in decent films (Plus I Am Legend is one of my favorite films now) and does great jobs in them also.
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yea I saw this a few days ago. as everyone else is saying, it started out with a lot of promise and then it just got worse and worse and more convoluted and such. it really reminded me of the tone and plot shift in click. what a bummer, it was pretty awesome for a while.
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I really liked it. Far different than I expected (when I saw the trailers I was thinking like a pretty much straight up superhero comedy, but it was a lot darker at some points than I expected). I loved Smith's character, how he wasn't a typical save-the-world hero.
I agree, the twist was kind of dumb, but I don't think it bogged down the movie too much.
It was certainly enjoyable, and that's really the only thing I could ask for. Plus, Jason Bateman is hilarious.
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it really reminded me of the tone and plot shift in click
I thought the exact same thing while I was watching it. I thought it was handled a bit better than Click, however.
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I thought it was funny, but it took itself to seriously at some parts.
The mike epps thing was funny though.
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Yeah the first half hour was the best part of the film, because the first half hour was what I expected the whole film to be. The rest was meh. It could have been worse.
It's still one of the better superhero films I've seen in the past few years.
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kfadjfkdajl why are you doing this
how is it red? yes i get that it is the organization's symbol because it's shown about 50 times throughout the movie, but how is it red ON THE MOON?
yes, he put red on the moon because
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Yeah it was pretty good until the plot twist. I liked it a lot though, and I mean it wasn't UNWATCHABLE after the twist, so you know. Still quite enjoyable even after that (if not a little dumb).
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I thought the movie tried to take itself too seriously after the plot twist. If they just kept it funny it probably would've been more watchable. The ending also seemed kinda rushed and the relationship between Hancock and Mary (that's what her name was, right?) was just hard to follow.
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I actually enjoyed the fact that there was no main villain in the movie, it allowed you to focus on Hancock in particular a little more. The little bit of cheesiness that worked its way in near the second half of the film didn't before me all that much, if at all. It was a really enjoyable movie, and it was great to see a sort of superhero movie that didn't spend the most part of the film explaining how all the powers came about, didn't spend ages thronging obvious facts at you to 'try' and give depth to the character and didn't stress some sort of responsibility meaning till I wanted to scream.
I was quite smitten with Hancock character, he spoke for himself, they didn't much the whole badass loner thing to far, and when it came for him to turn the other cheek, they didn't push the he's a nice Guy thing to far.
The only thing I would have like was a little more insight into the species that Hancock and the PR's wife were, so long as it was absent of the long boring descriptions. It seemed the whole 'we're a pair of some species that has powers' was repeated a few times throughout some scenes, three times if I remember correct. Once would have sufficed and a little more depth into the characters and there species would been great.
I wouldn't have minded if we got a little bit of seriousness at the end, the death of the PR or his wife would've worked for me.
That said, Hancock was a good character none the less. Nice movie.
There's talk of a second Hancock considering the amount of cash this brought in. If it goes ahead (rumours are it's already shooting, but I doubt it) then the questions we all wished had been answered that would've added depth to the movie and acting should be coming forth.
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I thought it was very good until the twist and after that it kept going downhill, although it was still pretty entertaining. Overall it was still good and if the whole movie was as good as the first half, I'd even say it was great. Will Smith did a good job but I think he's a good actor so w/e, the plot ruined the end. I agree that it was interesting that there was no real villain in the movie plus yeah, Hancock's character was interesting.
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I pretty much counted those guys as villains. I mean they weren't SUPERVILLAINS but they pulled the same OH LOOK OMINOUS KNIFE thing they were pretty much villains.
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I just saw it tonight and I liked it. You know, I liked the midway change in direction because without it the movie would have gotten stale and become a typical superhero movie with a 'superhero vs bad guys' plot. While the plot twist was kind of sudden, there were a few scenes where foreshadowing took place - Mary was clearly uncomfortable around Hancock and she did have a look of desire on her face at times - so much so that I nearly expected those two to have an affair at some point in the film - turning this into a drama. But, instead, the film turned into a love story of sorts. I found it very appropriate that to bring her back to life Hancock had to stay away as far as possible from her and leave her behind... something that clearly was difficult for him. Despite the fact that he couldn't remember the past and their whole relationship the chemistry between them was there. I found the scene after the credits to be a little weird in its context.. was it just a random humourous scene or does it signal for a sequel? I don't know what direction they can take the story, but regardless, if it does happen I'll go see it. I really enjoyed Hancock's character.
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Hancock 2: her husband dies she finds hancock they mate they separate and she has a child who isnt paired with anyone... they realize this and get back together and he becomes the cities new hero ...
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Hancock 2: Lost in New York
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I felt that this movie was really good until it got to the feuding part between his new and only friends wife and himself (hancock)
Up to that point the movie proved itself to be very entertaining and comedic but after that it kind of shut out the fun of the film.
To be honest I almost didn't like it.
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To be honest I almost didn't like it.
Gosh, that's a bit strong.
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Gosh, that's a bit strong.
Well it doesn't mean I didn't like it I just felt with the way it ended up it wasn't what they were promoting, it felt like a big letdown to me... thats all.
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Gosh, that's a bit strong.
too much mark..gotta tone it down for some people...
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even though the movie kind of went downhill and all at the end, jason bateman was great as always
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even though the movie kind of went downhill and all at the end, jason bateman was great as always
I can most definitely second that, he's a hilarious and great actor (*Cough* Arrested Development *Cough*)