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General Category => General Talk => Introductions => Topic started by: Jester on May 26, 2008, 02:16:31 pm
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just kidding.
im out, because steel whined about me drawing hentai and said i probably kidnap kids from gw to molest them, and now the new admins have decided to agree with him because i am too big of a liability.
obviously that's an exaggerated sentence, but you catch the gist.
izekeal, ill probably still finish the book, ill either pm it on here (unless i get BANNED!!!!) or get it to you someway.
so yeah, see ya.
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For real?
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Also: hentai of children
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If this is true it's awesome.
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Really Jester is so bad.
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Dude shut the fuck up. No matter what you're opinions are you can still express them in one post.
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this is gay, Jester you're cool.
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well you know, i thought you had already quit gw until you came back recently because i first heard about this a long time ago. anyway i never got on with you and while i haven't seen these pictures you drew i can only imagine them being creepy at best
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good get out.
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peace out Jester, I mean if it's true...why the hell is this place killing off people for stupid reasons? I draw naked people on a daily basis.
(Unless it was of children, but it seems not so?)
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See ya
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peace out Jester, I mean if it's true...why the hell is this place killing off people for stupid reasons? I draw naked people on a daily basis.
(Unless it was of children, but it seems not so?)
it was of children, frequently (possibly only, I can't think of any that weren't) being raped and sodomized rather violently.
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weren't they mostly like teenagers though? like 16-ish, and not 8 year olds and shit?
also who cares if he does that why would you want to exile him from a GAMING WEBSITE AND FORUMS wont somebody please think of the children?
im not sticking up for jester but this whole thing is really gay!
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weren't they mostly like teenagers though? like 16-ish, and not 8 year olds and shit?
nope.
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post a gallery so we can all judge for ourselves
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i think the site went down but maybe some dick saved them to his hard drive or something.
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its just there's all this talk but no way to actually see anything so it's hard to actually judge this situation.
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for some reason i don't think reposting those images is that good of an idea.
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all right but I gotta warn you this shit made me feel very uncomfortable at points.
holy shit HE DELETED HIS ACCOUNT goddammit
http://blargsnarf.wwoec.com/gallery.php
it used to be here.
I still have descriptions of like six or seven I used in the PM but the images are all gone.
its just there's all this talk but no way to actually see anything so it's hard to actually judge this situation.
I'm kind of surprised you didn't see them, considering there was a mod forum topic from what I've heard. honestly, trust the admins here I guess. I can PM you my CASE or whatever if you want, but I've been told I'm acting way too much like a dick here anyways so I'm not going to salt the wound.
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I thought it was already established a long time ago that Jester was a paedophile.
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There's a topic in the mod forum but no links or anything.
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There was no topic about this in the mod forum until Jester made one a few hours ago. It was our goal to attempt to handle this privately. Obviously it did not go down that way.
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i dont see whatever he does outside gw compromises his position here
i mean you guys are treating otomon like he's the best thing ever and he talks (all the time) about how much it turns it him when children are raped by tentacles (or others) himself, but maybe he is more of a joke person (what does this even mean??) so then it's suddenly ok?
idk sounds like hypocrisy to me anyhow
and yeah jester sad to see you go, always figured you had a great sense of humor :(
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What is it with GW and paedophilia...
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i mean you guys are treating otomon like he's the best thing ever and he talks (all the time) about how much it turns it him when children are raped by tentacles (or others) himself, but maybe he is more of a joke person (what does this even mean??) so then it's suddenly ok?
i'm not aware of otomon having posted anything other than words. if he did start posting any of the stuff he talks about i'm sure he would get banned very quickly.
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oh for fuck's sake Jester was fired because he was an awful mod and I included the pedophilia thing in the PM because it's ridiculous that the best person for the job is a shitty mod who is also a pedo.
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C'mon this is where rami goes "Thank you for participating in a GW social experiment"
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I think that it didn't matter much because he had never showed any kind of signs of pedophilia or anything alike on GW, and I think that it's unfortunate to see Jester leave this way. I didn't think it was my, or any of ours business, as long as it didn't affect his behavior on GW. I've heard other arguments of Jester being a bad mod, and I would've been much more satisfied to see that Jester was accused of being a bad mod because of those reasons, and not because he's a pedophile (which he is not, because drawing and doing something are completely different things, although pretty much all of us agree it's a disgusting/sick hobby but whatever it's not my business what Jester draws).
Anyway, bye Jester, I hope you still hang around on IRC because I think you're a cool guy and I'd hate to see you leave GW overall.
EDIT. To clarify, he WAS accused for those reasons too, but the primary reason seemed to be that he's a pedophile, which was a low blow.
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i'm not aware of otomon having posted anything other than words. if he did start posting any of the stuff he talks about i'm sure he would get banned very quickly.
i dont recall jester posting any of his stuff either? its what im sayin, what they do oustide of gw really shouldnt matter a lot
we KNOW otomon is a sick fuck but he's still treated pretty damn well compared to jester
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See ya Jester... I used to think you were a jerk and a terrible poster but you turned things around and turned out to be a pretty swell guy!
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i dont recall jester posting any of his stuff either? its what im sayin, what they do oustide of gw really shouldnt matter a lot
we KNOW otomon is a sick fuck but he's still treated pretty damn well compared to jester
yeah okay, i didn't think that through and this isn't really my argument but whatever.
otomon is just a stupid member, no-one actually likes him and he's been good to laugh at for a couple of weeks. he's inconsequential as far as GW goes because he'll be gone soon enough i expect and he isn't in charge of anything. jester was a bad mod and that's the principle reason he got de-modded, people just understandably react strongly to a pedo being in charge of things - to the extent whether you believe he is or not doesn't matter, the issue has blown out of proportion in relation to the reasons why he is de-modded. jester hasn't been banned and he would be free to continue visiting the forums if he wanted, but things have gotten a bit wild here so there's a chance he won't.
as far as otomon getting treated better than jester goes, it's a pretty oblivious thing to say. nobody likes otomon, he is ridiculous. he is an extremely ridiculous and obscene person who we are laughing at because he is horrendous. the difference is nobody takes him seriously, but when someone is a global moderator you have to take them seriously on the forums and that's why the pedo thing is an issue.
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yeah uh no one was arguing to BAN JESTER or whatever, but that he wasn't suited for a position of power. otomon is a disgusting weird guy (even if he is hilarious as shit). lars you don't really know what's going on, let it go.
basically this would have all been quiet but Jester wanted to leave forever and make a topic so. the real reason he was demodded is because he wasn't a very good mod to begin with.
the pedophilia thing did disturb a lot of people, including myself and I've seen some gross shit. a lot of people want to draw a line between ACTUAL PEDOPHILE and DRAWING and if it really bothers you OKAY WE DONT KNOW IF JESTER REALLY WANTS TO MOLEST KIDS EVEN IF HE DRAWS IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER, but the point is that someone like that shouldn't be in an administrative role.
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NOT ON MY GAMINGS WEB SITE
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GW is like a real country. We now have our politician sex scandal.
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What a way to go out...
See you, guy.
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but the point is that someone like that [pedo] shouldn't be in an administrative role.
call me dumb but elaborate
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So that blargsnarf thing wasn't just a ridiculously elaborate inside joke? What I saw of it looked pretty silly, like VIDEOGAME PORN for gods sake
Also im curious how anyone ever found out the site then? If it was actually serious, I'd bet Jester didn't just show it off?
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lars/steel take this shit to pm.
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yeah this is actually pretty bad
i mean i never heard of the pedo accusations and shit until like just recently and never thought it was true etc "THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN KNOW" or whatever the hell.
but yeah, see you around jester, i didn't really think he seemed that bad but the 'great society/hive-mind of GW' did so whatever.
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Man whatever Jester does in his free time is up to him, and iirc he never posted his artwork here (and in fact HATED giving out/people finding out his site) so what the hell does any of it have to do with GW or him being a mod?
I'm not that active on the majority of the forums (am more of an IRC man) so I can't really talk for how well he was doing as a global mod, although I frequently did hear people moaning about it. Personally I didn't have any problems with him (but maybe that's because he was inactive I don't know).
Once again GW handles something which DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO BE HANDLED in a shitty manner, and from 90% of these replies I'm disgusted and fucking disappointed by ALL OF YOU LOT, not Jester. rami saying 'all of us agree it is a sick/disgusting hobby' is a worthless comment and does not need to be said at all, it's just spiteful. None of you are entitled to tell him what he can and can't do, and especially as I've said it's a private hobby so why the fuck do you even care? It's not like he is going HERE IS CARTOON POON LOOK AT THIS LOOK AT THIS LOOK AT THIS ever. I noticed a couple of you mentioning this as well but man I got so pissed off when I heard about this in IRC and even more by reading this topic that I just couldn't take it anymore. Time to grow the fuck up already
edit: I'd recommend locking this up before it becomes a total flame war.
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he's a garbage mod who drew kids being sodomized, LETS ALL DEFEND THAT.
what about his gw rights........
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edit: I'd recommend locking this up before it becomes a total flame war.
Ironically, the topic up to this point is mostly just fairly docile discussion of what's going on and the reasons behind why he left, so it's kind of funny for you to make what's essentially an incredibly antagonizing post and then be like UGH... LOCK THIS SHIT. It doesn't need to be locked if you don't start a huge argument! I think it should stay open because Jester is a LONGTIME MEMBER or whatever and I don't really think it's good for the circumstances of his departure remain shrouded in mystery to the general public, because honestly, I think there's some knowledge to be garnered from the experience in terms of what to do and what not to do. Also he, by his own admission, was a pretty bad mod who didn't really care anymore. I think it's important to keep in mind that had he been a good mod who was involved in the community, it probably would've been overlooked, but it sort of just compounded the current problem of him being bad! It's not like anyone ran Abraxa out of the community and he drew some pretty awful things.
But yeah Lars, the idea on a basic level is that ASSUMING HE IS A PEDOPHILE, his decisions on what to do could potentially be influenced by this (read: deciding not to ban kk4 because of course he wouldn't care what kind of stuff the kind says/does). This is a pretty reasonable argument for why he shouldn't be an admin, but it actually stretches pretty thin when you realize that as a global mod he's not really making many administrative decisions, and of course there's also the fact that this is all assuming he's actually got some sort of problem and doesn't just draw weird shit as an odd hobby. Also, Chef or someone found the stuff when I would imagine they were snooping around the Internet for dirt on Jester. GWSLEUTHS etc.
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conversely I would like to point out that by most country's legislation (including the US) LOLICON or virtual child pornography does qualify as child pornography.
This is a pretty reasonable argument for why he shouldn't be an admin, but it actually stretches pretty thin when you realize that as a global mod he's not really making many administrative decisions
until I sent out that PM Jester had been taking a somewhat active role in locking site feedback topics that he disliked or in giving one word replies (he was pretty famous for TL;DR) to important arguments. you know my position on global mods is they should be more than LOCK EVERYWHERE robots, just like normal mods, and those were horrible responses that he was actually WELL KNOWN for.
but you know all this so I'm just rehashing.
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But yeah Lars, the idea on a basic level is that ASSUMING HE IS A PEDOPHILE, his decisions on what to do could potentially be influenced by this (read: deciding not to ban kk4 because of course he wouldn't care what kind of stuff the kind says/does). This is a pretty reasonable argument for why he shouldn't be an admin, but it actually stretches pretty thin when you realize that as a global mod he's not really making many administrative decisions, and of course there's also the fact that this is all assuming he's actually got some sort of problem and doesn't just draw weird shit as an odd hobby. Also, Chef or someone found the stuff when I would imagine they were snooping around the Internet for dirt on Jester. GWSLEUTHS etc.
yeah this is a good answer and kinda answers my concern... i can see why people could have a problem with adminship but not modding or gmodding... ok not gonna fag up this topic anymore B)
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Man whatever Jester does in his free time is up to him, and iirc he never posted his artwork here (and in fact HATED giving out/people finding out his site) so what the hell does any of it have to do with GW or him being a mod?
I'm not that active on the majority of the forums (am more of an IRC man) so I can't really talk for how well he was doing as a global mod, although I frequently did hear people moaning about it. Personally I didn't have any problems with him (but maybe that's because he was inactive I don't know).
Once again GW handles something which DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO BE HANDLED in a shitty manner, and from 90% of these replies I'm disgusted and fucking disappointed by ALL OF YOU LOT, not Jester. rami saying 'all of us agree it is a sick/disgusting hobby' is a worthless comment and does not need to be said at all, it's just spiteful. None of you are entitled to tell him what he can and can't do, and especially as I've said it's a private hobby so why the fuck do you even care? It's not like he is going HERE IS CARTOON POON LOOK AT THIS LOOK AT THIS LOOK AT THIS ever. I noticed a couple of you mentioning this as well but man I got so pissed off when I heard about this in IRC and even more by reading this topic that I just couldn't take it anymore. Time to grow the fuck up already
edit: I'd recommend locking this up before it becomes a total flame war.
Look, I agree with you and I don't like that you're trying to make it look like I was trying to speak trash about Jester, because I was one of the people who were sticking up for Jester from the start, whenever the whole stupid issue came up. I wasn't trying to be spiteful or anything, you completely read my comment out of the context. I was trying to emphasis that it's not our business what he does outside GW as long as it doesn't show here on GW. Anyone saying that 'but it could affect his decisions' is pretty far fetched, because he's been a mod/gmod/admin for YEARS, like longer than most any of you have, and nobody has never, ever thought anything like this about Jester, so it's pretty obvious that the matter was completely isolated from GW. But yeah, I didn't want to see this happen any more than you did.
EDIT. That being said, I'm still an administrator here and I obviously don't want people to think that I, or any of the other admins who defended Jester, didn't want to fire Jester because we support what he did, because the last thing I want to see is a Steel sending a bunnymilk a PM about ramirez being a pedo for supporting Jester's hobby. Regardless, I think Jester has every right to draw whatever he wants outside GW, and I'm sorry to see that you misinterpret me so badly.
EDIT2. Although I agree I could've been more careful with what I say, the only reason I even used the word disgusting was because people were just using it on IRC. I never really even looked at the drawings because I didn't want to know any more than I was required to, so I don't even know how "disgusting" they are, so it's not a direct quote of my thoughts!
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Well man, I think his refusal to do ANYTHING AT ALL about KK4 was a pretty good example of why that type of guy wouldn't be the best or most objective when it came to making certain administrative decisions. It's a little naive to think that you would do things like that and then keep that part of your personality completely isolated from other things you do. You can say he never, ever did it but in actuality he did it at least once, and to be fair, how many scenarios have we really been in where Jester's been in a position of power and we've had to be like WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS WEIRD SICKO? I don't think it was enough of a reason to keep him from being anything but an admin because I do legitimately thing that it clearly had a sway on his judgment when it came to certain things, but yeah.
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yea bye Jester, never really knew you all that much.
good fucking job on throwing shit on jester on every fucking post now that hes gone. He has some disgusting hobby or something lets all repeat that 1000 times so that theres not a single person on the internet unaware of this.
also someone actually went and searched for dirt on him what the fuck is wrong with you?
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I seriously hope that you aren't seriously suggesting that there's a connection to his hobby because of that? He wasn't even the only admin who didn't want to insta-ban him. I didn't think the whole KK4 matter was so serious either before so many people protested against him being in here. To me it seems that at the moment there's just as many people protesting firing Jester because of these recent accusations, as there are people who are supporting it. At the very least, it was very wrong for the whole hobby of his to have this large part in the process, and it would've been better to COMPLETELY IGNORE IT, and focus on whatever shortcomings you guys thought he had. At least to me it looked like a FORCED ATTEMPT to get him fired, like looking for reasons forcefully to put more pressure on us and him.
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No, it looked like that to me as well, which is why I've been saying in here and in the other topic that I don't think this is how it should've happened at all, because there's clearly enough OTHER STUFF to make a case against him and this was a pretty cheap way to do it, especially considering he tried to keep it hidden. But uh, yeah, I do think his notions of what is acceptable and what isn't played a large part in how tolerant he was of KK4. Even after you and DS and whoever else accepted that yes, okay, he was bad, Jester was still one of the few who didn't seem to come around at all. Why would a person go so easy on a guy like KK4? I'm saying that I think what he did for a hobby, how people probably reacted to it, and how he felt on things such as traditional notions of morality probably made him unable to make a good judgment call on the situation, or see it in the same way others were. I don't think it's such a big stretch at all, but if you do, I don't really know what else to say.
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Well that's it then, I guess. One thing that I find funny is that when Jester was made an admin, many people (and I'm *pretty* sure that some of these people includes guys who support this cause) said that Jester was fine as global mod but isn't fit to be an administrator. I don't care enough to look through posts or logs, but I just thought I should throw it out there because it further supports my view that this whole thing is weird and everyone seemed to start having a problem with Jester only after he was an admin for a while. Call me naive, but I really think Jester was a good mod and has contributed a lot to GW during his years of.. service. But whatever, you guys are allowed to disagree.
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-nevermind- >​
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bye
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as far as otomon getting treated better than jester goes, it's a pretty oblivious thing to say. nobody likes otomon, he is ridiculous. he is an extremely ridiculous and obscene person who we are laughing at because he is horrendous. the difference is nobody takes him seriously, but when someone is a global moderator you have to take them seriously on the forums and that's why the pedo thing is an issue.
i take otomon VERY seriously
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also someone actually went and searched for dirt on him what the fuck is wrong with you?
fyi the only reason we knew about Jester was because he outted another guy on the forums drawing much tamer (still underage) stuff. Chef got curious as to how he found out and hey what do you know, pot kettle black.
Well that's it then, I guess. One thing that I find funny is that when Jester was made an admin, many people (and I'm *pretty* sure that some of these people includes guys who support this cause) said that Jester was fine as global mod but isn't fit to be an administrator. I don't care enough to look through posts or logs, but I just thought I should throw it out there because it further supports my view that this whole thing is weird and everyone seemed to start having a problem with Jester only after he was an admin for a while. Call me naive, but I really think Jester was a good mod and has contributed a lot to GW during his years of.. service. But whatever, you guys are allowed to disagree.
this is so unbelievably untrue, at least in my case. I've never really vacillated from the opinion that I thought Jester was a shitty gmod. anyone who was part of #targ back in the day also holds this opinion.
I have no idea what you think Jester contributed (oh word GTA IV came out thanks pal) but it's far from some underdog opinion that he was one of the worst mods on gw.
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i find it pretty fucking embarrassing one of the main guys at gaming world draws cartoon kiddie porn and i am flabbergasted how it took this long for anything to get done. i wouldn't care if he was the greatest global mod to ever grace these forums, it's a black eye to the entire community having someone like this in any position of power. i can't understand how some of you can't see how obvious this is. anyone can move and lock topics, and jester deciding to leave after being demodded is pretty shitty form if you ask me. how many of you guys who are admins / global mods would QUIT GW FOREVER if you lost your position? anyone who would say yes is a terrible person who is supposed to be leading the community.
i imagine very few people here would give two shits if jester still posted here and did whatever he did before, but instead he can't moderate. you act somehow like you are betraying jester even though you can still be chums with him or whatever it was that you were before. only one thing changed and makes perfect sense for professionalism reasons alone. jester can contribute exactly what he has before, and if anything, gaming world has an abundance of moderators even if his position wasn't filled. i remember when steel told me this months ago i was pretty amazed you didn't fire him on the spot. anyone who is in the least bit surprised about this is basically crying over spilled milk. if jester was banned then i could see some cause for outrage, but honestly, many forums would ban him right then and there with no questions asked.
edit: for the record i don't care what any member does here as long as they don't shit up the forums. the problem here is having someone like this as a community leader and it's a no brainer to avoid people like this for any power position.
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i paid practically no attention to the whole fiasco so this is kind of surprising! oh well.
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So Jester was fired for being a pedo. Does that mean Lars won't be a mod because of his underage fetish?
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he was fired for being a crappy mod, not because he was a pedo.
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Oh please, the "pedophilia" had to be an underlying reason. Steels called him out about it before. I think it was in the KK4 topic.
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Jester I thought you were cool, though obviously I don't agree with what you did artistically (illegal in most first world places....). I wish you would stay as a member :(
I do agree with GZ though, even if he didn't show it to people all the time it is something you need to look out for with community leaders. But I still like Jester as a person.
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Well that's it then, I guess. One thing that I find funny is that when Jester was made an admin, many people (and I'm *pretty* sure that some of these people includes guys who support this cause) said that Jester was fine as global mod but isn't fit to be an administrator. I don't care enough to look through posts or logs, but I just thought I should throw it out there because it further supports my view that this whole thing is weird and everyone seemed to start having a problem with Jester only after he was an admin for a while.
well it's one thing being a global mod and another thing entirely being an admin. global moderator has never felt like a serious position. that has always gone to somebody who has BEEN AROUND FOREVER and is kinda involved in the community, but not so much that they're worth giving any sort of position or genuine responsibility beyond just an honorary position. sorry if that's not really the way it is, but that's the way it's always appeared and i can't remember the last global mod that we had for extended periods of time that was really IN CHARGE of anything.
anyway, everyone i've ever talked to on this subject thought it was totally ridiculous and reflected badly on the community that jester was ever a global mod to begin with. nobody i've ever spoken to has ever been able to explain what it is about him that would deem him worthy of anything of this nature. regardless, seeing him become an admin was just shocking, not so much that he was an admin, but that such a remarkably poor decision could ever get made. don't think that everyone thought that he was a good global moderator and suddenly changed their minds when he became an admin. it's that somebody could be so damn stupid to think that he would be an adequate decision maker for a community when all he is really capable of are mean-spirited one-liners in topics that he NEVER, EVER BOTHERED READING.
Call me naive, but I really think Jester was a good mod and has contributed a lot to GW during his years of.. service. But whatever, you guys are allowed to disagree.
i was never aware of jester contributing anything positive to the community, with the exception of locking topics/banning people and agreeing with whatever the administration would say, both of which are things any half-literate monkey with years of tenure could do. correct me if i'm neglecting something that he added to the community, or there was some beneficial skill he possessed, because i have never seen any evidence of this in all my years of being a part of this community. he was just a jerk, but without any visible wit, intelligence, or redeeming qualities to overcome his loathsome personality.
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It's not like anyone ran Abraxa out of the community and he drew some pretty awful things.
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This is absolute shit. Nobody should be chased from an internet community because of a private fetish. Lots of people fucking have them, myself included. I know I'd feel really betrayed if this happened to me, so I can only imagine how Jester feels.
Of all people, Jester, you were one of the few who I ever wanted to see go, especially over something stupid. I know I was never too high on your list of "GW people worth talking to" but man, I had respect for ya.
Take care out there, Jester.
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This is absolute shit. Nobody should be chased from an internet community because of a private fetish. Lots of people fucking have them, myself included. I know I'd feel really betrayed if this happened to me, so I can only imagine how Jester feels.
Of all people, Jester, you were one of the few who I ever wanted to see go, especially over something stupid. I know I was never too high on your list of "GW people worth talking to" but man, I had respect for ya.
Take care out there, Jester.
holy shit read the topic.
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holy shit read the topic.
I did?
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sad to see you go jester, we've gone back a long way and you were always a cool guy to me, I don't really get what this is all about or anything but you've been part of this site for a long time, and I'm really sad you're going.
Thanks for the good times.
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Alright I was being a faggot before but I will say this in all sincerity: Jester was never a positive member here nor did he deserve the power he had. He was a bad moderator and continuously made poor decisions. He was a dick when it came to using his privileges, especially on irc where he would ban people for the slightest comment he didn't like. Personally I don't feel he's done anything against me, but he was always a very poor member in my mind and I don't see why he is being defended here so vehemently.
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Watch out everyone, what you do out of GW might get you in shit! I mean come on, you might not like it and all but it was OUTSIDE of GW. I really completely agree with what Lars said. If he was a bad mod ok, whatever but just accusing him of being a pedo etc instead is just completely dumb. TEH INTERWEBZ R SERIOUZ BUZINESS?
It's sad to see you leave Jester, I always thought you were a really awesome guy since I came to the forum.
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Jesus Christ. Don't you UNDERSTAND how bad it is for GW to have a paedophile as a Global Moderator? And like has been said several times in this topic: he was a garbage moderator who made poor decisions.
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Oh shit, i feel bad for joining to the general opinion but yes, i don't think we got along so well, idk. Like GB said, i can't see why you liked him that much: i hated his unfunny posting habits and the general rude attitude to everyone.
Overally, he never noted me and i never cared about him either so i guess i can't really say what kind of person he really was: i guess you guys just got along with him or talked to him regulary or what?
He was a dick when it came to using his privileges, especially on irc where he would ban people for the slightest comment he didn't like.
He really did kick or ban people in the irc if he felt like it - regardless of the opinion of the kicked/banned himself. It was never funny in the first place but he couldn't give a damn. Maybe you think it as a minor fault but uh with the other minor faults, yeah, it certainly gives a bad image of him!
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conversely I would like to point out that by most country's legislation (including the US) LOLICON or virtual child pornography does qualify as child pornography.
I'm pretty sure part of that was overturned in Ashcroft vs Free Speech Coalition. I could be wrong though. Either way, I really couldn't care what Jester does outside GW.
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I draw pictures of me meatspinning that Steel lots - i'll post them on GWlog someday.
I agree that a private fetish is none of our business however if we know about it how is it private anymore?
I wanna have sex in a graveyard on a tombstone and I could if I wanted to because there's a load of them out there and they're not guarded or anything. I'd have a great time living the whiney goth dream and if no-one else knew about it it'd be fine, I could tick it off my list of totally crazy things I wanna do in my life. But if we got caught we'd be in the newspaper and people would react in the same way (See what I am getting at?).
I guess this isn't such a sensitive issue as paedophilia so you're gonna get mobbed/bandwagoned.
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I did?
jester was neither fired, nor was he "fired" for being a pedophile
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Don't you UNDERSTAND how bad it is for GW to have a paedophile as a Global Moderator
Yes, because Gaming World is a multi-million dollar corporation with plenty of competitors willing to get at its throats in this ghastly state of recession.
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Yes, because Gaming World is a multi-million dollar corporation with plenty of competitors willing to get at its throats in this ghastly state of recession.
Maybe it's because alot of people like Mkkpet come here so someone who imagines having sex with children shouldn't exactly be 'top dog'.
lol but picturing violently sodomizing children is just a crazy fetish right
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why does everyone keep saying "mkkpet"????
it's mkkmypet! (we chat twice daily so i cant possibly forget her name)
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why does everyone keep saying "mkkpet"????
it's mkkmypet! (we chat twice daily so i cant possibly forget her name)
Oh snap twice daily huh??
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Maybe it's because alot of people like Mkkpet come here so someone who imagines having sex with children shouldn't exactly be 'top dog'.
Looking around at place there's alot that goes on in Gaming World that isn't suitable for kids at all. Paedophilia is one chip of the iceberg (sorry for the bad idiom/metaphor/whatever). Although I'd agree that someone with a violent pedo fetish shouldn't be an administrator if there are better candidates around.
Also I don't see many active 13 year olds here. I WONDER WHY :fogetmmh:
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It's funny how jester drawing cartoon porn has developed over the course of this topic into VIOLENT PEDO FETISH
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man jester wasn't a great mod or anything but i can remember several times where people would just randomly call him out on drawing lolicon or whatever, which is pretty shitty, because if i remember right, doesn't/didn't he do this as commission work as in HE DOES THIS FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND NOT FOR HIMSELF or am i out of the loop here
whatever, sucks you're leaving like this jester, i used to hate you when i first came to gw/irc but i came to like you a lot more later, too bad we were never BUDDIES etc
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Yeah that's what he says, but Steel raised the point that some of his drawings are dated before he said he ever had any commissions, so maybe he's not lying but at the very least he was doing it before he had commissions as well, so I guess whatever point people were trying to make stands.
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oh ok, thats kinda shitty then too :(
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jester was neither fired, nor was he "fired" for being a pedophile
I'll be the first to admit here that as an admin I kind of botched up my tact a little bit over the last few days and that will become common knowledge soon enough. As a result of this Jester has left. (http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=72207.new;boardseen#new) I guess if you are mad about this and want to know what happened, I fired him.
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Jesus christ could you blow it up even further our of proportion. Nobody even said anything along the lines of WE KICKED HIM OUT BECAUSE HE WAS A PEDO. We didn't even kick him out, he left of his own accord. Not to mention that we were only in discussions of what to do about the fact that so many MEMBERS were calling him out on being a pedo and other moderators.
from the staff forum!
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i brought that up in the mod forum but i think bunnymilk totally dodged that question and headphonics said bm felt some sort of "responsibility" for something or something.
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its just that its been HE WAS A PEDO WE KICKED HIM OUT WE DONT WANT NO PEDOS HERE *a bunch of people arguing shit* WELL YEAH WE DONT KNOW IF HE WAS A PEDO THE MAIN REASON IS HE WAS A BAD MOD *mutterings of acceptance* PROBABLY A PEDO
headphonics said bm felt some sort of "responsibility" for something or something.
goldenratio you are great at relating events do you know that
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well since both of those are meant to be funny i suppose that i am!
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goldenration.... :shakehead:
are we REALLY warning for worthless posts now?
No wonder we had all those mysql issues recently...
Ryan.......... :shakehead:
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yes i warn for worthless spammy posts.
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You could have PM'd that.
Hand yourself a warn, spammer.
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It's funny how jester drawing cartoon porn has developed over the course of this topic into VIOLENT PEDO FETISH
It was actually drawings of men violently raping children :)
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You could have PM'd that.
Hand yourself a warn, spammer.
stop. if you want to CONTEST MY AWFUL VERBAL WARN then do it in pm.
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Oh are we doing telegrams now? STOP
You could have PM'd that too if you didn't want to have the last word here STOP
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dude ryan you are totally abusing your mod powers right now mark didn't say anything warnable dude.
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dude ryan you are totally abusing your mod powers right now mark didn't say anything warnable dude.
are you kidding me?
spamming up a thread is not warnable?
No spamming
To paraphrase Bart's old rules topic: before making a post, ask yourself, "does this add anything to the topic or am I just posting for a post count +1?" All posts in the General Forum should be made with at least some relevance to the topic. "Post Count +1" or "lol" posts will result in a warn. The same goes for posts that are added to topics that are bound to be locked (such as spam topics that obviously violate this rule). Double posting may also violate this rule. In almost all cases, it's recommended to use the "edit post" button instead. Especially useless double posts by new members are punishable.
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I don't even believe you're serious
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if you can explain to me how
goldenration....​
added ANYTHING AT ALL to this topic then i'll remove both warns
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if you can explain how
:cry:​
is a good response to my PM then I won't think you're as big of a ass as I do.
PS I don't think POST+1 really applies since nobody's done that in like 3 years. There's no post counts in this forum either I think
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Both of you stop, even you Ryan. This is pointless.
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this thread has been spammed to shit already
you spammed yourself, ryan
this is a no postcount forum
yes everyone shut up
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WRONG MOVE BUCKO
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Let's let paedophiles have positions of power but SPAMMING??? In MY vagina?!
Twisted it back on topic.
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if you can explain how
is a good response to my PM then I won't think you're as big of a ass as I do.
PS I don't think POST+1 really applies since nobody's done that in like 3 years. There's no post counts in this forum either I think
because that was the entire pm, right?
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Stop.