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Title: Square-enix.. No more creative games!?
Post by: Tau on May 30, 2008, 11:26:38 am
More detail from Square president,
no more non-mainstream games allowed


(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/www.destructoid.com/elephant/ul/87774-wadatgs.jpeg)

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So you enjoyed The World Ends With You? Too bad. You won't be seeing anything remotely like it from Square-Enix anytime soon, according to company president Yoichi Wada, who recently issued an ultimatum to his staff: if any games are made that don't fit into the mainstream's circle of interest, job cuts will follow. So long, unique concepts that break the mold!

This was supposedly part of a heated business meeting in which Square discussed the results of their 2007 fiscal year, which were none too sunny, showing general profits down 20 percent and taking the worst of it in overseas sales.

Business is business, but I have to say my heart sank when I read those words. If Square was doing anything I was excited to see, it was things outside the Final Fantasy spectrum, but financial troubles like this certainly excise any hope of experimental titles in the future (at least until the numbers improve). I'm glad to see the giant falter a bit, if only in hopes that the results will push them towards a more focused future.

Link! (http://www.destructoid.com/more-detail-from-square-president-no-more-non-mainstream-games-allowed-87774.phtml)

...and so begins the low-risk future of the gaming industry. Prepare to see more cookie-cut games playing off the same tried-and-true formulas. Companies either can't afford to or won't chance many ideas that may flop.

Sad days...but I've expected it since before this generation started, where devs complained about the high cost of developing for this generation of consoles. The number of engineers and artists necessary make mean high costs...which mean less room for creativity (who can afford it?).

*sigh*
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Post by: UPRC on May 30, 2008, 11:28:36 am
Great.. I guess this means we'll be seeing an influx of lame Final Fantasy games in the next year or so.
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Post by: theHunter on May 30, 2008, 11:28:53 am
What the fuck man.
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Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on May 30, 2008, 11:31:19 am
So what we've been seeing until now was Square... breaking the mold?

...

AH HA HA HA HA HA.
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Post by: jamie on May 30, 2008, 11:41:19 am
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by: Cardinal Ximenez on May 30, 2008, 11:47:26 am
This statement is particularly hilarious considering SE's track record for the past decade.
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Post by: helter skelter on May 30, 2008, 12:14:35 pm
Fuck 'em.

Now let's see some more interesting developers like SUDA51 take charge.
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Post by: DS on May 30, 2008, 12:17:38 pm
i want more remakes
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Post by: Leric on May 30, 2008, 12:36:48 pm
Funny thing is those games outside of the "mainstream's circle of interest" as he put it were the only games I really cared about from Square Enix. Now that they're doing this I don't have any reason to pay attention to anything SE brings out.

Games like Parasite Eve, Einhander, Vagrant Story and Valkryie Profile were part of the non-mainstream side of the spectrum when they were released, that just shows you how stupid a move this is on SE's part.
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Post by: UPRC on May 30, 2008, 12:38:43 pm
Games like Parasite Eve, Einhander, Vagrant Story and Valkryie Profile were part of the non-mainstream side of the spectrum when they were released, that just shows you how stupid a move this is on SE's part.

Einhander = My favourite shooter ever.
Valkyrie Profile = One of my favourite games ever.


Good one, Square-Enix.
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Post by: Aten on May 30, 2008, 12:39:46 pm
They haven't factored the BIGGEST factor in yet

piracy

"profits down" doesn't mean less sales because of mechanics. it could mean less sales because of piracy. But whatever.
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Post by: Neophyte on May 30, 2008, 12:45:08 pm
Get ready.

FF 12-2
Final Fantasy 13 vs versus 2.

On a more serious note, I'm not surprised. I thought they've been doing this all along, but I guess not! Remakes seem to be their specialty these days.
Trying to relive the glory days heh.
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Post by: baseball19225 on May 30, 2008, 12:56:42 pm
wow a real loss to Gamers every where
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Post by: Liman on May 30, 2008, 01:00:39 pm
No wonder they had a bad year. They are spitting out 500 Final Fantasy spin-off titles and people are starting to grow tired of it. I partially blame Enix though because Square seemed to spend more time making their games before they joined together.
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Post by: Vellfire on May 30, 2008, 01:14:07 pm
I for one am glad about this announcement.  Square-Enix can now stop pretending to be creative and get down to the point.



No one should be outraged because of a company being COMPLETELY HONEST.



(basically: hahahahahahaha)
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Post by: Aten on May 30, 2008, 01:15:48 pm
I blame final fantasy 12
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Post by: UPRC on May 30, 2008, 01:19:44 pm
No one should be outraged because of a company being COMPLETELY HONEST.
Well, I don't think anyone is upset. The general consensus among everyone seems to be:

"LOL"

This is just so.. Weird! Even coming from Square-Enix, this news just does nothing but make you go, "Haha, what???"
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Post by: big ass skelly on May 30, 2008, 01:44:34 pm
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
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Post by: Tau on May 30, 2008, 01:48:26 pm
I blame final fantasy since 97..

    * Main Series
          o Final Fantasy VII
          o Final Fantasy VIII
          o Final Fantasy IX
          o Final Fantasy X
                + Final Fantasy X-2
                 +Final Fantasy X-2 Job System?
          o Final Fantasy XI + 4 Expansions
          o Final Fantasy XII
                + Revenant Wings/Zodiac Job System
    * Cell Phone Games
          o Before Crisis: Final Fantasy
          o Dirge of Cerberus: Lost Episode
    * Tactics Series
          o Final Fantasy Tactics
          o Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
          o Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2
    * Crystal Chronicles Series
          o Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
          o Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates
          o Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearer
    * Remakes
          o Final Fantasy Collection
          o Final Fantasy Anthology
          o Final Fantasy Chronicles
          o Final Fantasy Origins
          o Final Fantasy I & 2: Dawn of Souls
          o Final Fantasy III DS
          o Final Fantasy IV DS
          o Final Fantasy IV Advance
          o Final Fantasy V Advance
          o Final Fantasy VI Advance
          o Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of The Lions
    * Games Featuring Final Fantasy Characters
          o Ehrgeiz
          o Kingdom Hearts
          o Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
          o Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix
          o Kingdom Hearts II
          o Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix/+
    * Movies, Anime Series & Concerts
          o Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
          o Final Fantasy: Unlimited, Entire Series
          o Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
          o Final Fantasy: Dear Friends, Entire World Tour
          o Final Fantasy VII: Last Order
*Fixed*
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Post by: Paranoia Dude on May 30, 2008, 03:17:57 pm
This is sort of funny considering RPGs in general are doing very poorly outside Japan (Americans are more about blowing shit up and Europeans are more about, I don't know, same shit?) and those guys don't even seem to realize that the big price cuts are coming from those same regions.

I guess people are more and more drifting away from the senseless japanese bullshit and are getting more into sub-standard political commentary stories like Bioshock and Gears of War??
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Post by: otomon on May 30, 2008, 03:19:55 pm
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/ZeldaFalcon/FFbox.webp)

@Tau:you totally forgot to add Legend of The Crystals to your list...c`mon I tougth you were a hard-core fan.
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Post by: Aten on May 30, 2008, 11:18:55 pm
I liked how Legend of The Crystals looked exactly like Dragon ball Z
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Post by: HL on May 30, 2008, 11:29:36 pm
I question the validity of this article.

No other major game source has picked this story up.
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Post by: goat on May 30, 2008, 11:47:14 pm
Sure this memo wasn't dated back several years ago?
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Post by: Ragnar on May 31, 2008, 02:42:27 am
Dear Japan: More weird shit less bullshit
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Post by: Eltee on May 31, 2008, 03:11:44 am
man if that was CREATIVE SQUARE i don't really want to know what NONCREATIVE SQUARE is


thx
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Post by: Marcus on May 31, 2008, 03:49:21 am
I think this announcement just means less corporate wankery.  You cannot tell me The World Ends With You wasn't a circle jerk game.  I'm 100% positive Nomura brought up his favorite writers and shit and was like "hay, lets make a game about fashion and vapid characters and shibuya and zippers.  the storyline is a ripoff of gantz but all the characters will be bad stereotypes WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN!"
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Post by: headphonics on May 31, 2008, 04:13:16 am
maaaan i wanna play the world ends with you so bad just so i can know for sure that it's not as good as people say it is.  maybe it is just because i am a CONTRARY DICK but every time people rave about a game i always want to go out and buy it so i can come back and tell them they are wrong.

it's not worth buying a ds over, though!
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Post by: Marcus on May 31, 2008, 04:56:36 am
Dude, watch the introduction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq-0ulaSBW4).  If that isn't reason enough NOT to buy the game then I don't know what is.  The only reason I got it was because it looked cool (a year ago when zero information was available) and fully payed off a preorder but I seriously turned the game off after the intro.

I later played through Neku's chapter but the game still remains uninteresting.  Save your cash.
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Post by: headphonics on May 31, 2008, 05:00:39 am
Really?  Considering how much more tolerant of terrible shit you are than I am, I'm surprised that got to you!  I mean I found it pretty bad but even I would maybe LEAVE IT ON a few minutes to find out what the fuck the game was even about.
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Post by: Shadow Kirby on May 31, 2008, 05:03:19 am
Yeah, being creative is so last gen..............well ok maybe the generation before........ or two generations away.
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Post by: Lars on May 31, 2008, 05:05:29 am
it's still not worse than ffx-2's intro

and for the record I do not understand at all why SE won't remake FF7 with new technology already?? they're being fucking dumb and people have been asking for it ever since FFX was released but instead they went with FFX-2 and FF12 of all things. oh, and the interest in FF7 remake eventually did result in something... a shitty movie and three shitty games that aren't remakes.

fuck SE. it's such a shitty company these days who fucking cares.
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Post by: Marcus on May 31, 2008, 05:10:29 am
Really?  Considering how much more tolerant of terrible shit you are than I am, I'm surprised that got to you!  I mean I found it pretty bad but even I would maybe LEAVE IT ON a few minutes to find out what the fuck the game was even about.

My tolerance depends on two things

1: Is the game fun
2: Who is the game made by

Call me prejudice or whatever but if a Japanese game, especially an RPG on the DS, puts me off at the intro then I will instantly lose the will to play it. 
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Post by: Tau on May 31, 2008, 05:26:24 am
and for the record I do not understand at all why SE won't remake FF7 with new technology already?? they're being fucking dumb and people have been asking for it ever since FFX was released but instead they went with FFX-2 and FF12 of all things. oh, and the interest in FF7 remake eventually did result in something... a shitty movie and three shitty games that aren't remakes.
Oh my GOD that intro was bad :sweat:

Speaking of the remake a shit load of people still want apparently, seeing this fan made graph of Square-enix emails..

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/www.kh2.co.uk/assets/img/sechart.jpeg)

Link.. look at the bottom of the page. (http://www.kh2.co.uk/)

It seems the remake is still being demanded for even though they probably thought the movie and all that would have stopped this, I guess not.
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Post by: XxSylverxX on May 31, 2008, 06:01:11 am
if i was the company prez id do the same thing, except i would fire anyone assosiated with the world ends with you or whatever the fuck it was called.
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Post by: Vellfire on May 31, 2008, 11:57:23 am
Dude, watch the introduction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq-0ulaSBW4).  If that isn't reason enough NOT to buy the game then I don't know what is.

Holy shit are you kidding me?  That's even worse than Rune Factory's indistinguishable-words-that-sound-like-mumbling jpop intro, because at least that was easily skippable and didn't try to set up a character in any way.
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Post by: Sludgelord on May 31, 2008, 08:50:57 pm
watch the introduction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq-0ulaSBW4)
that's... that's me...
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on May 31, 2008, 09:11:27 pm
that's... that's me...

its true when dogchode walks around all the wind in the world swishes around him and he just lives in his own wolrd....in the headphones....

seriosuly that game looks awful, fuck anyone that likes it.
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Post by: Ralph on May 31, 2008, 09:34:05 pm
its true when dogchode walks around all the wind in the world swishes around him and he just lives in his own wolrd....in the headphones....

seriosuly that game looks awful, fuck anyone that likes it.

Fuck me.


Anyway, except for TWEWY, I didn't really see any good, original titles from Squenix, so I've yet to decide if this is good or bad.
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Post by: headphonics on May 31, 2008, 10:10:15 pm
i think this is what we all get for assuming all the people raving that this game was great should be given any credence at all.  idk i usually disagree with these people about most games but with this one for some reason i assumed they weren't COMPLETELY WRONG like they usually are and that it was actually a pretty interesting game.  my... my mistake...
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Post by: Kezay on May 31, 2008, 10:41:07 pm
B...But I want a TWEWY 2. :( (54 hours and going in the first game  :cool:​)

Meh, it's not like it will be a huge shift if this is true for as a few said beforehand, S-E hasn't exactly been open with the new IP distribution.
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Post by: swordofkings128 on June 01, 2008, 03:58:22 am
Well I guess the Threads of Fate sequel I've been praying for for the last 7 or so FUCKING years will never happen.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 01, 2008, 04:03:57 am
B...But I want a TWEWY 2. :( (54 hours and going in the first game  :cool:​)

man it's so weird when people in a topic spend the past like ten posts talking about how unbelievably shitty a game is and then someone strolls in and just says "noooo my game".

it's not like they even disagree, they just come in with their completely contrary opinion, ignore everyone else, and post.
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Post by: headphonics on June 01, 2008, 04:06:59 am
probably because a lot of the time no one feels like reading 40 posts before saying what they want to say!
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Post by: Kezay on June 01, 2008, 05:53:59 am
man it's so weird when people in a topic spend the past like ten posts talking about how unbelievably shitty a game is and then someone strolls in and just says "noooo my game".

it's not like they even disagree, they just come in with their completely contrary opinion, ignore everyone else, and post.

Well, I did read everyone else's post beforehand, it wasn't too hard as the thread is only two pages long.  But I liked the game, so I don't think there is a problem in showing some disappointment in it not continuing even if there are others who don't happen to like it.  But that's just me... :cool:

@ Headphonics

I read all the posts, if it was much longer thread (greater than ten pages, although if compelling enough I have no problem reading through even that many pages) then I might just post what I think and leave it at that.  The game has its fans and its critics which is true of just about any game out there, I just reside on the side of the fence that happens to like the game.
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Post by: maladroithim on June 01, 2008, 04:31:56 pm
Yeah this news is either fake or from several years ago.
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Post by: pburn on June 01, 2008, 04:33:53 pm
I like how people keep fucking begging Squeenix for sequels of 15 year old games.

It's almost like that's the only shit they're going to make. More Final Fantasy 7, more Dragon Quest, more Mana, whatever.
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Post by: Kezay on June 01, 2008, 10:06:03 pm
I like how people keep fucking begging Squeenix for sequels of 15 year old games.

It's almost like that's the only shit they're going to make. More Final Fantasy 7, more Dragon Quest, more Mana, whatever.

Well, at least in one case I wouldn't mind a sequel of a pretty old game, Einhander. :P

I see what you mean though, which makes it an interesting circle where people want something new but still want something old too.  But I think that's true of any publisher who has roots in classic gaming.
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Post by: swordofkings128 on June 02, 2008, 01:59:39 am
I like how people keep fucking begging Squeenix for sequels of 15 year old games.

It's almost like that's the only shit they're going to make. More Final Fantasy 7, more Dragon Quest, more Mana, whatever.

If you've played the shiny bright gem of a game Threads of Fate is, you'd know why it deserves a new game, unlike Final Fagasy 7, Dragon Fest[ers quest] or Mana.

It just BEGS for a direct sequel.
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Post by: datamanc3r on June 02, 2008, 04:27:03 am
You can't keep the company afloat with old franchises alone. Now is the perfect time to plug original ideas, especially because of the same old bullshit Nintendo's been spewing lately. This is just a bad idea.

Yeah, I understand not wanting to plug originals simply due to the unknown demographic, but THAT'S WHAT BUSINESS IS. You've got to risk a few things in order to appear to be on top of it. Relying on the ever dwindling FF fanbase isn't going to float your proverbial boat.
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Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on June 02, 2008, 05:10:22 am
I like how people keep fucking begging Squeenix for sequels of 15 year old games.

It's almost like that's the only shit they're going to make. More Final Fantasy 7, more Dragon Quest, more Mana, whatever.

Too bad the only ones that deserve some continuation ( like Chrono for example) wont.
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Post by: Sludgelord on June 02, 2008, 08:15:46 am
Too bad the only one that deserves some continuation ( like Chrono for example) wont.
live a live pal.
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Post by: Ralph on June 02, 2008, 05:57:00 pm
live a live pal.

This.

I want an Aztec or a Greek/Roman Chapter. That would kick ass.
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Post by: Tau on June 03, 2008, 05:19:33 am
At least now we might get a sequel or prequel or spin off(Hopes for remake) of Final Fantasy VI.. preferably on the Playstation 3 of course.
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Post by: Pulits on June 03, 2008, 09:52:49 am
The new mana games suck balls. I hate them so much. Nothing will compare to the original 3. :(

And I'm so sick of Final Fantasy... honestly. It stopped being cool since X.
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Post by: Ragnar on June 04, 2008, 03:05:53 am
What the fuck actually it turns out Square-Enix is releasing Dragon Quest IV-VI on the DS

kind of 15 years too late or pretty close anyway

I'm assuming V will look like the PS2 version that came out a while back - I thought there was something really cool and exotic-looking about that one for some reason
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Post by: EternallyChangingNameMan on June 04, 2008, 04:34:16 am
Wow. It looks like most of the old companies are just dying. They just aren't trying anymore. Man... and Vagrant Story was fucking awesome, and it still is. I hate Square's way of making good games and then taking a massive crap on them because they were bored. Like FF12 -> Revenant Wings.
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Post by: Jayce on June 04, 2008, 07:43:32 am
Who have the rights to Captain Falcon?
Man it would be good to see him in an RPG/Adventure Game, and you can bet that it would shit all over like half of the shit square-enix has produced this last year...
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Post by: Eltee on June 04, 2008, 10:49:47 am
I could only see Falcon in a TPS or whatever. Definitely not in an RPG. Can you imagine how horrid that would be..? F-Zero RPG..

Besides, it's all about future kung-fu and laser guns.

Pew pew pew pew pew


And driving vehicals
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Post by: Twin Matrix on June 04, 2008, 12:21:33 pm
Dude, watch the introduction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq-0ulaSBW4).  If that isn't reason enough NOT to buy the game then I don't know what is.  The only reason I got it was because it looked cool (a year ago when zero information was available) and fully payed off a preorder but I seriously turned the game off after the intro.

I later played through Neku's chapter but the game still remains uninteresting.  Save your cash.

Oh come on. Unless you're rich, you didn't really entirely stopped playing the game just after the intro, right? :S
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Post by: Vellfire on June 04, 2008, 12:34:20 pm
Oh come on. Unless you're rich, you didn't really entirely stopped playing the game just after the intro, right? :S

Some people don't suffer through bad games because they paid for them.  They trade them in or sell them or anything else.  I've bought terrible games in the past that I didn't play for more than a few minutes, at that point you paid someone to let you BORE YOURSELF.
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Post by: Kezay on June 06, 2008, 08:11:06 am
I suppose some may have heard of this already, but I only recent have seen info and such on a DS game from S-E which when translated is apparently title "The Game with No Name."  Quick peak at Wikipedia seems to suggest it being something of a take on "The Ring" where a cursed RPG game is culprit of a string of deaths, namely from those who play the game.

The trailers for it are pretty freaky considering it being a point and click horror/adventure.
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Post by: Nessiah on June 06, 2008, 08:38:12 am
So I looked over TWEWY, I Can't say I really like it although to be honest, I like Joshua's design XD
But that intro was a big turn off LEAVE ME ALLOOONNEEE!! GET OFF MY FACE! ALL THE WORLD NEEDS IS ME!!!

I like the Reaper Game Idea though at the ending.

Also I looked over Nanashi No Geemu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGIi6D5N2No&feature=related

I think the atmosphere is nice XD
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Post by: lil_Vivi on June 06, 2008, 03:38:33 pm
Lol I've hated Square for 3 years and this has really pissed me off XD.

Looks like there won't be any more Chronos for a while / ever.

D...damn you Square Enix. Damn you to hell.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KfmaudakM2I

=/...


Hello Crappy Fantasy VII!
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Post by: Kitsune Inferno on June 18, 2008, 10:54:46 am
My god that intro was awful...
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Post by: Kaworu on June 18, 2008, 11:06:53 am
When was the last time SE made a good game though?
I mean X-2 is their best game in recent years and... fucking look at it!

Does anybody really care, because this is basically just admiting that they're doing what they've done since 1998/9
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 18, 2008, 04:12:27 pm
At least I don't have to keep guessing when it comes to square releases from now on.

I know exactly to expect, so there's no risk of me wasting money hoping for something unexpected.
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Post by: Eltee on June 18, 2008, 05:22:05 pm
I suppose some may have heard of this already, but I only recent have seen info and such on a DS game from S-E which when translated is apparently title "The Game with No Name."  Quick peak at Wikipedia seems to suggest it being something of a take on "The Ring" where a cursed RPG game is culprit of a string of deaths, namely from those who play the game.

The trailers for it are pretty freaky considering it being a point and click horror/adventure.




This is.



Ugh.
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Post by: jamie on June 18, 2008, 08:18:20 pm
When was the last time SE made a good game though?
I mean X-2 is their best game in recent years and... fucking look at it!

Does anybody really care, because this is basically just admiting that they're doing what they've done since 1998/9

Well I dunno, I thought FFXII was a pretty good game despite it's many faults. It's definitely the most fun final fantasy they've ever made, the battle system is pretty much the best an rpg can hope for. it's not instrusive while being flexible, and the party customisation can be as deep and involved or quick and easy as you want it to.  i like rpg gameplay to be fast and easy, and ffxii let me explore a pretty interesting and alive world without a bunch of loading screens and micromanaging getting in my way.

it also tried, compared to other square-enix games, to tell a story. vaan being the main character was an atrocious mistake, he shouldn't even have been in the game because he is irrelevant but i guess effeminate males are a big selling point to lots of their moneyfaces so whatever, i try to forgive them for it. it's the only final fantasy where the fate of the entire world doesn't end up in the balance, it's a political story (with a lot of magic bullshit) and that's different for final fantasy and square games.
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Post by: Kezay on June 19, 2008, 02:21:21 am

This is.

Ugh.

Terrible idea?  It can't be that bad... unless the game itself turns out bad then yeah I guess it can turn out that bad, but that's a bridge to cross when it comes down to it.  In between multiple extensions of Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy it's nice to see at least something different come from the company especially with loads more FF and DQ in the pipeline yet to come.  Not that I have a problem with FF or DQ, but I certainly have appreciated games like TWEWY a bit more for being something of an interesting needle in a haystack of familiarity and convention.

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/774/

That's the site for the game, all in Japanese but not too hard to navigate anyway.  Just click the first button on the main page, then the fourth button along the bottom at the next screen.  The media viewer on the following screen should have two pictures under it which represent the first two trailers released for the game.

Nanashi no Geemu, The Game With No Name!

(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4626/themanwithnonamemi5.jpg)
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Post by: Timothy Musclerash on June 19, 2008, 07:50:16 am
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by: headphonics on June 19, 2008, 07:58:00 am
i never saw the ring because japanese horror movies are dumb as shit, but honestly i'm all for weird horror adventure games for the ds!  it reminds me of that ROOM 417 game or w/e that was some detective adventure game, only replace detective with horror/thriller shit.  i don't really see how this is somehow more UGH than the awful shit people usually like for the ds.  CURSED RPG sounds bad but so does persona 2's plot when you put it like that and that ended up being pretty cool.  also it sounds like it's all pretty tentative so who knows, they might ditch that shit for something less fundamentally dumb.
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Post by: jamie on June 19, 2008, 08:23:04 am


what? seriously, i liked that game. what's the deal timothy musclerash?
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Post by: mahin1384 on June 19, 2008, 01:20:09 pm
Final fantasy 12= shit.......here begins the downfall.....
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Post by: Pulits on June 19, 2008, 06:39:51 pm
Just look at this crap for fuck's sake. SE list of games for this year's E3:

Final Fantasy VII Advent Children 2 (Bluray) – Confirmed
Final Fantasy XIII (PS3) – Confirmed
Final Fantasy XIII Versus (PS3) – Confirmed
Final Fantasy Nebulla (DS) – Rumoured
Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep (PSP) – Confirmed
Kingdom Hearts 358/5 Days (DS) – Confirmed
Kingdom Hearts (PS3) – Rumoured
Star Ocean V (PS3, Xbox360) - Confirmed
Dragon Quest IV (DS) – Confirmed
Dragon Quest V (DS) – Confirmed
Dragon Quest VI (DS) - Confirmed
The Last Remnant (Xbox360) – Confirmed
Infinite Undiscovery (Xbox360) – Confirmed

Another mother fucking FF7 movie. Three other FF games, other three Dragon Quest games and three Kindom Hearts games. WTF. I don't know if you guys, but I feel betrayed (yeeeees, lets make some drama).
What is worth looking at? Well, I never liked Star Ocean but, there it is. I can't believe it, but the only two worthy or at least "new"titles are coming out for the 360, groovy... :)
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Post by: Liman on June 19, 2008, 07:48:03 pm
@Pulits: I'm pretty sure they don't mean another FF7 movie. It's the blu ray version of it... with new scenes and such.
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Post by: headphonics on June 20, 2008, 08:17:42 am
@Pulits: I'm pretty sure they don't mean another FF7 movie. It's the blu ray version of it... with new scenes and such.
Who the hell calls a bluray re-release TWO?  It sounds like a sequel.
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Post by: PTizzle on June 20, 2008, 08:26:43 am
Final fantasy 12= shit.......here begins the downfall.....


Final Fantasy XII isn't shit at all. Pull your head out of your ass.

It's worth it if only for the fact that Square actually tried to re-energize FF with a new story style and gameplay.

That TWEWY intro is pretty horrible, but I doubt it'd make me turn off the game. It's just typical awkward dialogue, and I wouldn't really be playing a DS RPG for the story or characters based on the current track record regardless.
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Post by: Nessiah on June 20, 2008, 08:58:20 am
TWEWY's intro and dialogue is awful, unfortunately, I like the idea but I hate how they did the execution like:

Beat: "Yo fool, this busta be disrespectin, I'm a drop him like he's hot, aight yo?"
Neku: "You are full of fail"

......................................
<.<

and oh god the repetitive music when they're talking to each other =_=
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Post by: headphonics on June 20, 2008, 08:59:30 am
jesus christ is that a real piece of dialogue
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Post by: Kaworu on June 20, 2008, 11:26:31 am
Pulits, are you sure that isn't last year's list... or 2006's list or even 2005's list?
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Post by: Nessiah on June 20, 2008, 11:31:17 am
jesus christ is that a real piece of dialogue

Yes it is :(
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Post by: RMXPokemaniac on June 20, 2008, 11:58:21 am
Wow, Sque really is making a mistake... Do they completely forget  that the fact that they even exist is because they weren't afraid of risking it? Dang fools... They should remember FFI...

Anyways, seriously? How can they ignore all the FFVII re-make emails? Or maybe they're gonna suddenly unveil it to everyones surprise?
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Post by: Vale on June 20, 2008, 12:17:21 pm
jesus christ is that a real piece of dialogue

that was a fake example btw
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Post by: Aten on June 20, 2008, 12:19:47 pm
TWEWY's intro and dialogue is awful, unfortunately, I like the idea but I hate how they did the execution like:

Beat: "Yo fool, this busta be disrespectin, I'm a drop him like he's hot, aight yo?"
Neku: "You are full of fail"

......................................
<.<

and oh god the repetitive music when they're talking to each other =_=

how do you know all this? DO YOU SECRETLY HAVE A DS???
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Post by: Nessiah on June 20, 2008, 12:34:13 pm
how do you know all this? DO YOU SECRETLY HAVE A DS???

I used a couple of spells such as "Rom, Youtube and Reviews and Emulators and correct speculations :3"
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Post by: Vale on June 20, 2008, 01:07:47 pm
And bad GameFAQs reviews (I'm guessing that's where you got the quote from?)
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Post by: big ass skelly on June 20, 2008, 02:40:16 pm
Ahaha wait that IS real dialogue? :(

That game is the fucking worst
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Post by: Kezay on June 20, 2008, 04:33:46 pm
It's not that bad, although indeed Beat is supposed to be some "thug" and whatnot.  (he does say "yo" a lot)  More often than not the various characters I think add more to the game especally with certain key characters in particular like Kitaniji, Joshua, Hanekoma and to an extent Kariya.  The others tend to have their own issues to deal with their own goals within the game so they have their own standout personalities which are obviously meant to not be serious (Higashizawa and his constant food/kitchen references) or being a parody of a certain stereotype (Beat).

And then there is Minamimoto, for whom there are no words to represent his jawesomeness. :P



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Post by: big ass skelly on June 20, 2008, 11:28:11 pm
Actually it's just Full of Fail as Neku-chan would say.
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Post by: Kezay on June 21, 2008, 12:32:22 am
Actually it's just Full of Fail as Neku-chan would say.

Meh, to each his own, I suppose.
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Post by: Nessiah on June 21, 2008, 01:54:30 am
And bad GameFAQs reviews (I'm guessing that's where you got the quote from?)

yes ;)
Thank goodness Joshua has proper dialogue though.
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Post by: Pulits on June 21, 2008, 10:09:39 am
Pulits, are you sure that isn't last year's list... or 2006's list or even 2005's list?

Yes man, I'm pretty sure.... it's pretty sad ain't it? :(

Here's the link for E3 confirmed titles: http://www.psbeyond.com/features/E3-Media-and-Business-Summit-2008.659.html

You can check out IGN or Gamespot too.
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Post by: Aten on June 21, 2008, 12:43:08 pm
So..... They won't remake FF7, because "it might be ruined for fans" but they find it OKAY to make a billion spinoffs and sequels? Man, I'm really REALLY close to hating Square about now.
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Post by: tuxedo marx on June 21, 2008, 12:56:40 pm
Quote
...it's very difficult to hit the jackpot, as it were. Once we've hit it, we have to get all the juice possible out of it.
Yoichi Wada genuinely said this. It does say a lot about their practices!
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Post by: Eltee on June 21, 2008, 04:32:20 pm
So..... They won't remake FF7, because "it might be ruined for fans" but they find it OKAY to make a billion spinoffs and sequels? Man, I'm really REALLY close to hating Square about now.


You should've crossed the line ages ago.
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 23, 2008, 03:27:43 pm

You should've crossed the line ages ago.

If every square-enix fan "crossed the line" at the exact moment that they "should've", then Square-Enix wouldn't even be in business right now. (hell, the constant influx of money probably would have stopped before square even joined up to make Square-Enix in the first place!)
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Post by: Aten on June 24, 2008, 08:00:50 am
If every square-enix fan "crossed the line" at the exact moment that they "should've", then Square-Enix wouldn't even be in business right now. (hell, the constant influx of money probably would have stopped before square even joined up to make Square-Enix in the first place!)

And then..... we wouldnt..... have Dragon Quest VIII.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by: Marmot on June 24, 2008, 08:44:53 am
honestly why people think dragon quest series are good games or whatever. it has a stupid story and the gameplay is basically GRIND. honestly if you people enjoy grinding forever why not study or do another thing that is boring as hell but at least you get something out ofg it.
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Post by: Hundley on June 24, 2008, 09:22:36 am
honestly why people think dragon quest series are good games or whatever. it has a stupid story and the gameplay is basically GRIND. honestly if you people enjoy grinding forever why not study or do another thing that is boring as hell but at least you get something out ofg it.
who needs knowledge when you have FIRE SABRE +3

being completely oblivious to the world around you is the IN-THING(real life is too hard it has no strategy guide)
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Post by: Kaworu on June 24, 2008, 09:36:00 am
honestly why people think dragon quest series are good games or whatever. it has a stupid story and the gameplay is basically GRIND. honestly if you people enjoy grinding forever why not study or do another thing that is boring as hell but at least you get something out ofg it.
Two words dude.
Anime Boobs.
What they get out of it?
An erection.
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Post by: Aten on June 24, 2008, 11:33:13 pm
Don't get me wrong, I hate Dragon Quest. The only exception is VIII, and why? because OF THE FRIGGIN HUGE  WORLDMAP! I fell in love with that world map and basically said FUCK YOU to the guys that made FFX and were crying about it. "no we didnt make a wordmap because it uses too much data" MY FUCKING ASS you bastard lazy assholes, If DQ8 did it, then FFX should have been able to do it too, but noooooo, all we get it a shitty "click here" MENU.
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Post by: Marcus on June 25, 2008, 04:22:38 am
have you guys played this game yet its pretty fun

(http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/26699/sumomomomomomo.PNG)
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Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on June 25, 2008, 06:06:42 am
I forgot all about Sumomomomo... the most uncomfortable show ever!
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Post by: Marmot on June 25, 2008, 07:40:27 am
who needs knowledge when you have FIRE SABRE +3

being completely oblivious to the world around you is the IN-THING(real life is too hard it has no strategy guide)

yeah dude but like i remember when i was like 12 years old and downloaded a bunch of dragon quest roms and i just can vaguely remember roaming around and every two steps having a random encounter which basically consisted of some huge sprite and then a list of actions with boring animations. there was also some stupid story about princesses and dark lords or whateverr. i basically downloaded it because all the RPG gurus were claiming it was great and i liked rpgs.


why is this shit so popular. i dont get it. i can understand why final fantasy is popular or whatever because even if i find it somewhat dumb its entertaining because it has this CINEMATIC appeal.