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General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: ase on May 30, 2008, 05:40:40 pm
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I'm sorry, this is probably going to end up being a bad example of a General topic but I just really REALLLY wanted to make this into a topic because it is SO COOL
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/05/30/brazil.tribes/index.html
For a few days, planes flew overhead this remote location in Brazil near the border of Peru and took photos of these awesome painted people aiming bows and spears at the plane. I guess I am just really weird but
*beats chest* *emergency village call HIIUHUUUU ALALALAYYAIYAIYAIHUUII (translation: EVIL GOD SENDS FAST SHINY BIRD: VILLAGERS, ATTAAACCCKKK!!!!)
(http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/32484/uncontacted_amazonian.jpg)
HOLY FUCK. The men seem to paint themselves orange and the women are painted black (look closely for TITTIES) and they're all DEFENSE MODE. I just find that so amazing. I just want to wear some sort of combo space suit/arrow-proof vest and VISIT THEM and show them a Television and maybe INTERNET PHOTOS OF THEMSELVES and right before they stone me to death they will all congregate around the technology and say
AGOOOOOOOLAMMANANANAAA HABANNAAAANANANATAYYYY (MAGIC MIRROR!!!)
Anyways, feel free to talk about how you care or don't care about these uncontacted, isolated peoples. Here's a wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples
Apparently there are hundreds of these around the world, with most of them in South America and New Guinea.
Lastly, if anyone has any more photos of uncontacted peoples that they've found, PLEASE SHARE THEM!
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basically we're treating them like zoo animals. like really we're one step away from capturing them and sticking them behind glass walls. just leave them alone really.
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I was just about to post this, its pretty fucking amazing
the sheer fact that there are people out there who haven't met other people seems mind bogling to me
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Someone plug em on the internet! Hurry! They dont know who John Wayne is! They dont know about jrpgs! Math rock! Heroin! The string theory! wi-fi connections! Soap operas! tentacle hentai! Graphic novels! Rabelais! Recycling! Family Guy! Angler fish! Sporks! Pizza! The ninja turtles! 10-step weight reduction plans! shopping coupons! Black holes! Racism! Beatboxing! Belgian comics! The three-tile rule! How to cook pasta just right! The holocaust! Bubble baths! Dianetics! Casinos! Aids! Full Brazilian shave!
We need to hook em up!
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You know, when I first saw these photos yesterday, it made me think of a pretty great sci-fi plot.
These guys are living now approximately the same way their ancestors lived ten thousand years ago, almost totally unaware of what the rest of the world has been doing. How funny would it be to find out that the Earth we know is just like one of these tribes, and that without our knowledge there are already other humans out there exploring the galaxy and we are to these others as these un-contacted tribes are to us.
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this is pretty fucking incredible.
they're better off like this imo!
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And you wondered where the banned members of GW end up when we flush them down the chute.
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basically we're treating them like zoo animals. like really we're one step away from capturing them and sticking them behind glass walls. just leave them alone really.
Unless I misread something, we're just photographing them, right? What the fuck difference does it make? Planes seem to freak them out for obvious reasons, but I'd say they see planes beside these anyway. If you want to use your animal comparison, this is more like filming animals in the wild, which is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT than animals in zoos. We're not doing anything bad here, fuck, the whole point of this group is to PROTECT AND PRESERVE them and keep their land from being taken.
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yeah the article says that these photos were taken because some people doubt their existence, so its to protect the reserve they live in.
Also I wonder many things, like what sort of language did they develop if any, and whats their story exactly. I mean they could simply be a tribe that never in history had a contact with the outside world, or maybe they're the long descendants of people who were exiled somehow from civilization and stayed separated ever since, forgetting their old ties to the rest of the world... :o
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tentacle hentai!
You never know about this, actually.
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God, yes, this shit is so cool. These photos are great, too. I sort of try to imagine what life must be like for these people, never going outside a few miles' radius of their villages, having no concept whatsoever of the existence of an enormous outside world filled with billions of people (probably not even a number they conceive of!!) and technology. It's funny because as I was reading the magic mirror part of your post, I was thinking how I'd like to go there with some kind of protective wear and just... a CD PLAYER or something to just blare music at them, and maybe an AIBO ROBOT or some shit. Just all this ridiculous stuff we have, and see how they react to it. On one hand STONING might work, but on the other, since we in all likelihood have no way of communicating with these people, maybe they would WORSHIP ME or something.
but really the whole thing is awesome because I just wish I could communicate with them and just see what their perspective on LIFE is without being contaminated by MASS MEDIA and whatever the fuck else we all have to deal with. And also it would be cool to find maybe the ONE SMART ONE who would not be terrified by modern technology and see his reaction to computers and internet and TELEPHONE and shit like that.
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Quick get some missionaries over there they need to learn about jebus
God, yes, this shit is so cool. These photos are great, too. I sort of try to imagine what life must be like for these people, never going outside a few miles' radius of their villages, having no concept whatsoever of the existence of an enormous outside world filled with billions of people (probably not even a number they conceive of!!) and technology. It's funny because as I was reading the magic mirror part of your post, I was thinking how I'd like to go there with some kind of protective wear and just... a CD PLAYER or something to just blare music at them, and maybe an AIBO ROBOT or some shit. Just all this ridiculous stuff we have, and see how they react to it. On one hand STONING might work, but on the other, since we in all likelihood have no way of communicating with these people, maybe they would WORSHIP ME or something.
Wasn't this a Choose Your Own Adventure book
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God, yes, this shit is so cool. These photos are great, too. I sort of try to imagine what life must be like for these people, never going outside a few miles' radius of their villages, having no concept whatsoever of the outside world or technology. It's funny because as I was reading the magic mirror part of your post, I was thinking how I'd like to go there with some kind of protective wear and just... a CD PLAYER or something to just blare music at them, and maybe an AIBO ROBOT or some shit. Just all this ridiculous stuff we have, and see how they react to it. On one hand STONING might work, but on the other, since we in all likelihood have no way of communicating with these people, maybe they would WORSHIP ME or something.
but really the whole thing is awesome because I just wish I could communicate with them and just see what their perspective on LIFE is without being contaminated by MASS MEDIA and whatever the fuck else we all have to deal with. And also it would be cool to find maybe the ONE SMART ONE who would not be terrified by modern technology and see his reaction to computers and internet and TELEPHONE and shit like that.
this all over, seriously. i couldn't imagine it, i mean, they have no idea about the outside world. hell, they don't know an outside world really EXISTS. it's really awesome.
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This is awesome mang! I got a higher chance of getting laid if I go there!
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This is awesome mang! I got a higher chance of getting laid if I go there!
Oh otomon, you're precious. Never change.
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I remember my teacher was telling me about some feral child in Europe who had literally been RAISED BY WOLVES or something and they managed to teach him whatever language, and posed some riddle to him that I forget the gist of. It was something like, you're on an island and there are two groups of people, one are cannibals and and the others are friendly and will give you food and crap - the catch is, the cannibals will lie and the friendly people tell the truth (I think). The prepared answer was something like "If I asked you if you were a cannibal, what would you say?" or something convoluted like that (actually I don't think my answer works but it was similar to that). Anyways, the kid is asked the question and supposedly he goes over to a tree and asks, "IS THIS A TREE"
I read up on it later and supposedly those cases were hoaxes but that would be pretty awesome if it were true
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OK guys this is it. I have decided I don't want to go to med school anymore.
I just want to lead expeditions into the unknown with a camera and photography crew and LEARN about these people and interact with them in some manner that won't pass on diseases and kill all of them off. I just want to WATCH THEM TRADE BEADS FOR PLANTS and BUILD HOUSES and MAKE ANIMAL SACRIFICES
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yea and i wanna jerk off and play guitar all day
gotta find somethin that pays the bills ase.....
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who cares about payin the bills
a) my lifespan will probably go down to like 45 due to risk of annual volcano gods sacrifice
b) im gonna grow and hunt all my food and when im sick ill just drink some tree sap
edit: ok so if i breed with one of those black-body-paint hot mamas, what color will my babies be??
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if its a boy then orange, if its a girl probably deep purple
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The Matses are a tribe of people living in the Amazon. They are similar (I don't know if the ones you are talking about are the same). They are crazzyyy. They take poison from the tree frogs, burn a hole in their skin, put the poison directly in their bloodstream, and then they throw up a lot. It's messed up. I have gained an interested in studying about indigenous groups of people and I find them fascinating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo8XfYygWDc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKH1O7y8WXA&feature=related
These people are cool they hunt and gather shit...not dandelions but other shit :)
Also, they've lived this way for over 10,000 years I find it awesome that they can survive this way of life for that long. I'm going to try this sometime in the future lol.
Also lol free boobies!
NSFW BUT EDUCATIONAL SO IT'S OK
http://www.amazon-indians.org/
Also
http://www.peoplesoftheworld.org/index.jsp (this site isn't really about hunter-gatherer tribes though).
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you guys are acting like this is something new. like once every year one of these pops up in the news...............
anyway this video is pretty interesting, it kind of explains the situation. most of the tribes are in contact with other tribes who might've been in contact with the "civilized world". they are still considered uncontacted people but there's a lot of random elements that decide which tribes ends up meeting cvilization and which dont (do they live near a river where the police patrols for head hunters? is their settlement in a range for nomads of the tribe to reach woodcutters?)
anyway the video is pretty amazins for this stuff I recommend ya'll watch I have and I enjoyed it very much.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=David+Attenborough&sitesearch=#q=David%20Attenborough%20tribe&sitesearch=
They take poison from the tree frogs, burn a hole in their skin, put the poison directly in their bloodstream, and then they throw up a lot.
yeah hi I thought the tree frogs' poison containts LSA? LSA pretty much is a psychedellic that comes with naseau that in larger doses will make you throw up unless you smoke a lot of cannabis to ease it down (which they obviously have). I don't like you explain the phenomenon simply by "YEAH THEY TAKE POISON AND THROW UP CRAZY PEOPLE HUH" when in fact it is a very potent psychedellic that can be used for religious and spiritual experiences.
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It's gotta suck knowing you are one of the last remaining people of your tribe:
"Kanoe do Omere is an uncontacted tribe in Rondonia state, Brazil. When first contacted in 1995, the tribe numbered 5 people. But of that a women named Tutua and an infant boy named Opera later died of poisoning by ranchers(According to Survival). Now the tribe consists of a women named Txinamanty (~ 42 years old), her brother Purá (~ 37 years old) and a child who was born to Txinamanty and Baba(an Akuntsu tribesman)."
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is it just me or do those photos look like late 90's god-sim game graphics? i'm not suggesting they are fake at all, it just took me like 5 minutes to come around to the idea that they were real.
anyway i've always been aware that groups like this exist, i've never thought about the whole culture shock aspect though. this shit could be a star trek episode. i wouldn't want to visit these tribes, though, honestly. it is fascinating to see groups like this today, that they've by some chance or choice remained totally cut off and for whatever reason haven't moved beyond a period of cultural evolution like most other countries. still, it seems kind of uh rude i guess to barge in there and make them watch miami vice or whatever! i am for letting them be who they are, and try not to fly planes over their villages cos it seems to totally piss them off.
i'm basically talking about the prime directive.
Someone plug em on the internet! Hurry! They dont know who John Wayne is! They dont know about jrpgs! Math rock! Heroin! The string theory! wi-fi connections! Soap operas! tentacle hentai! Graphic novels! Rabelais! Recycling! Family Guy! Angler fish! Sporks! Pizza! The ninja turtles! 10-step weight reduction plans! shopping coupons! Black holes! Racism! Beatboxing! Belgian comics! The three-tile rule! How to cook pasta just right! The holocaust! Bubble baths! Dianetics! Casinos! Aids! Full Brazilian shave!
We need to hook em up!
this made me laugh
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There was an article in a paper from 1994 about this group of people on an island that hasn't had contact with the outside world and civilized humans brought media in (tv's, radios...etc) and studied them. Also, there was another thing where there was a group of uncontacted people on an island and a plane flew over. They didn't know what it was so they thought it was some sort of "god" thing and started worshipping it.
I'm gonna try to find it but one group of peoples in the Amazon have absolutely no concept of numbers whatsoever. I read that two Dutch (I think it was) people went live with them for about a year and tried to teach them how to count but they just couldn't grasp it at all.
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We should drive them away from their village and into the nearest civilized big city. Lulz ensue.
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Hahahaha!
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The tribe have been seen cultivating various hallucinogenics and what is presumed to be cannabis in fields adjacent to the huts. It has been proven that the penis has been consumed by many of the males in order to prove a ritual to the gods of the underworld.
Sounds quaint.
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Wow this thought of isolated people still out there never occur to me...or may be it has but I just forgot.
I hope they didn't do this on purpose like in the movie 'The Village' by M.Knight...haha
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anthropologists are awful and i like the movie 'cannibal holocaust'
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anthropologists are awful and i like the movie 'cannibal holocaust'
theologians are awful
anyway yeah first contact is actually pretty rare these days considering the advent of shit like... helicopters heheh so its always a cool thing when it happens. Its far more rare for this to happen in New Guinea than it is in South Asia, Sub-Saharan Africa and the Amazon though because none of those places have mountains that planes/helicopters literally cannot fly over heh. New Guinea has all sorts of crazy shit going on up in its mountain valleys. For instance in the 1960s first contact was made with a group of people who had been isolated in a mountain valley who had developed an intensive system of silviculture (basically raising orchards) and somehow were cultivating several non-native crops as well. Heh I dont know where I'm going with that but yeah this is cool shit
(oh yeah, I want to be a cultural anthropologist so yeah this is kinda like.. one of my areas of expertise?)
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You know, when I first saw these photos yesterday, it made me think of a pretty great sci-fi plot.
These guys are living now approximately the same way their ancestors lived ten thousand years ago, almost totally unaware of what the rest of the world has been doing. How funny would it be to find out that the Earth we know is just like one of these tribes, and that without our knowledge there are already other humans out there exploring the galaxy and we are to these others as these un-contacted tribes are to us.
I personally thought that idea for a sci-fi short story Arthur C. Clarkish style would be awesome. Like it came straight into my mind the image of people in spaceships watching the news that "another planet has been found with isolated civilization" lol. Awesome.
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They look like a bunch of fire ants.
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If you want to use your animal comparison, this is more like filming animals in the wild, which is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT than animals in zoos. We're not doing anything bad here, fuck, the whole point of this group is to PROTECT AND PRESERVE them and keep their land from being taken.
Your making an animal comparison? Your joking right? Do you know how fucking arrogant that is?
Even if i humor what you said, what a blind contradiction to say its 'entirely different than animals in zoos', when 'the purpose of the group is to PROTECT AND PRESERVE'. Its still an obvious containment. We're already turning them into a freak show, just look at some of the comments.
Some of the people in this thread are treating them like sub-class already. Crack out the guns and microscopes ay?
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Your making an animal comparison? Your joking right? Do you know how fucking arrogant that is?
Even if i humor what you said, what a blind contradiction to say its 'entirely different than animals in zoos', when 'the purpose of the group is to PROTECT AND PRESERVE'. Its still an obvious containment. We're already turning them into a freak show, just look at some of the comments.
Some of the people in this thread are treating them like sub-class already. Crack out the guns and microscopes ay?
you're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy~~~~ overeacting dude. most of the comments are "what ifs" and what's wrong with finding someone whos vastly different from us interesting? i can be interested in for example canadian culture and say similar comments. it doesn't mean that they are disrespectful at all.
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this is pretty fucking incredible.
they're better off like this imo!
Yeah, I'm not so sure about this. We don't have any right (other than six thousand years of precedent I guess) to force contact on them, but it's not like they are happy without the modern trappings of civilization. Unless that Wikipedia article is full of lies like half those tribes are constantly fighting with each other/themselves, and a couple of them are repeatedly getting massacred. Admittedly, they're not doing with AK47s like in the Sudan or anything, but there is a lot to be said for a society that has rules about murdering 20-50 people because you want some fish from their river or something (Iraq War lol!!).
From my well-documented games of Civ2 I have learned that the probably course of action for any uncontacted tribe is that another race (probably the fucking Spanish or English) is going to come along and bomb their cities with an Ironclad and then land some cannons there and then suggest a friendly happy peace treaty, because they are just making first contact.
But yeah, this is pretty cool. Of course, if you met one of these tribes they would probably murder you immediately (some wouldn't, I'm sure, but generally you react with fear rather than understanding to aliens) but it would be neat to get some awesome satellite pictures of these guys rather than Raul shooting shots from his crummy camera out of a plane window.
Also, Apathy, Velfarre wasn't even making an animal comparison, she was extending someone else's metaphor. Maybe you should read entire threads instead of making angry posts (oh the internet it just gets me so mad!!!) about one of the posts!
p.s. they are a subclass. I am not sure what their primary class would be, but probably one of the larger Amerindian tribes of the rain forest.
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@Vesper
I completely agree that MOST of the comments seem to be coming from a position of genuine curiosity. However, SOME can be interpreted differently and as "disrespectfull".
@Kaempfer
Missed that...sorry to Velfarre, it was a snap response post... and if my tone was overly aggressive i apologize.
But in response to you, what i meant was they are not a subclass in relation to us (as they are not even part of our societal structure or its norms). That is a tone i picked up in certain parts of the thread; that they were inferior supposed to different.
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they're still more technologically advanced than most of yorkshire so they can't be lesser people!
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they're still more technologically advanced than most of yorkshire so they can't be lesser people!
you know i heard scottish people are really tight fisted is this true?
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you know i heard scottish people are really tight fisted is this true?
having lived in scotland for 2 years i can confirm that this is true and that they also have a horrible drinking problem
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I think the latter applies to most brits.
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Speak for yourself internet drunk ;--------)
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if scotland wasn't always drunk it would have to face the reality that it is a deeply ignorant, machete wielding alcoholic with no hopes or dreams because it just doesn't have the capacity to think on that level
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7427417.stm
ahaha so apparently these people painted their bodies AFTER the plane's first flyover. The red and black bodypaint is supposed to be a sign of aggression.
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Wow, they hunt monkeys. How much meat or fur could you possibly get out of something so small!
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OK guys this is it. I have decided I don't want to go to med school anymore.
I just want to lead expeditions into the unknown with a camera and photography crew and LEARN about these people and interact with them in some manner that won't pass on diseases and kill all of them off. I just want to WATCH THEM TRADE BEADS FOR PLANTS and BUILD HOUSES and MAKE ANIMAL SACRIFICES
dude just play black & white for a week then enlist for med school, it has a future
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Wow, they hunt monkeys. How much meat or fur could you possibly get out of something so small!
A lot of tribes like these eat monkey.
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Wow, they hunt monkeys. How much meat or fur could you possibly get out of something so small!
People eat squirrels and rabbits and chickens. Monkeys are as large as any of those if not far larger depending on the individual monkey.
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Man, whole groups of people who've never had to see goatse.
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Man, whole groups of people who've never had to see goatse.
They would probably just aggressively shake their spears at it anyway.
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Yeah guys. FAIL.
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/91536
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How is it fail? Just because people knew about the tribe, didn't mean that the tribe knew about them. Even though they're not a lost tribe, they're still pretty isolated and out of touch with the rest of the world.
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they're still pretty isolated and out of touch with the rest of the world.
Well so am I, but there ain't pictures of me on yahoo.
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Also we shouldn't contact them:
www.survival-international.org/lib/downloads/source/progresscankill/full_report.pdf