Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 01:42:59 am
So yeah, lets get this discussion under way. Do you feel like you fit into gaming world? If so, why or why not?
I think I've only really felt that I've started to fit in here in the past year, I think it's mainly to do with the fact that I wasn't really all that active on IRC or the forums until this year and I think IRL I'd be alot different to the majority of the members (not a geek huhuhuhu).
I remember when I first joined and when someone talked to me IRC, sent me a pm or quoted a post I made I thought it was a really big deal haha, even when I started talking to SB on msn and he laughed at one of my jokes I was like....holy....shit ahahah.
Also Gaming World is alot more 'grown up' than alot of other forums, I think maybe you find it hard to begin with but now days I kinda find it intolerable to go to places where everyone is being so nice to idiots that it reads like they are fighting off the urge to kiss or something.
Hopefully could be a pretty insightful discussion, it would even be cool if we got some key points down at the end and they were stickied for noobs or whatever. (Dreams are free right??)
Post by: Lars on June 05, 2008, 01:54:29 am
I remember when I first joined and when someone talked to me IRC, sent me a pm or quoted a post I made I thought it was a really big dealI am still like this. If someone quotes me or writes me something here or in IRC I'm always like "HOLY SHIT YES, GW HAS NOTICED ME!!! :D".
It never... gets... old...
As for fitting in: Just insult people without seeming petty or bitter. That's the best way to get the ball rolling. And then after a while, gradually become chiller and chiller... yeah...
Post by: Erave on June 05, 2008, 01:55:44 am
The hipster community has changed a lot and I never really moved with it and got into their style of forum posting and I usually don't share too many common interests with most people here as far as politics, music, and so on.
I still like hanging around though, there are a lot of cool people.
Post by: Farren on June 05, 2008, 01:59:10 am
I don't make rm games and I've NEVER been into RM games. The only reason I even found this place is because of a guy I went to school with that was into this site and he showed me some art that he posted on here.
I came in at first on another account at school and made a few topics spamming the shit out of him and then they got banned.
After looking around for awhile I found the old crap shack and saw some of steel's old topics the superman one and another D&D styled one that was funny as hell. I thought the people here were pretty funny so I made a new account at home I was just into the crap shack for awhile and then I made my way into General and learned alot from the people here. Alot of debate and discussion from this site really opened my mind and I'd hate to think of how stupid I would be if I never found this place.
Eventually I made my way into the other forums, music being the primary one that really changed what kind of stuff I listened to. Although alot of my friends aren't totally into my way of thinking and the music I've gotten into because of GW I think it has actually done alot for me.
So yeah, I don't use IRC very much and don't talk to anyone outside of the forums (which is pretty unfortunate) but I like posting here so whatever.
I always thought I was pretty dorky but some of the folks here put that to shame and then some
Edit: also, I never made a welcome/farewell topic and just started POSTING STUPID SHIT and I remember a few people being like, "What? who the fuck are you???" and I eventually started getting popular-er which I still don't think I'm very popular but I'd like to think that if I left for a year or something people would start to notice.
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 02:00:07 am
-GW is elitist as fuck. Period. Over the course of ten years this has been the number one compliant about GW and it rings true every single time. You'd have to be blind not to notice how much better GW thinks it is than everyone else. It's like if someone says "Hey guys, its been fun but I feel like I fit in more with this other forum over here so that's where I'll be" you can be assure there will be quite a few people going "How can he be there instead of here that place is so gay GW is the best". It's like you guys think you're in some exclusive club or some shit and you're automatically better than the rest of them.
-Speaking of which it sucks how much there's an "in" crowd. It's almost like nepotism or something. Sure, everyone can post here, but unless you're part of the inner circle of buddies, you can forget about being anything more than a random name. Of course you can get out of this pit if you subscribe to the general hive mind that GW seems to have. Anyway, GW definitely suffers from "inner circle" syndrome more than any other forum I've been to.
-I don't find the humor here funny. Just a preferential thing I guess. I'm not a fan of how a lot of people's posting style either.
-Circlejerking.
-Too much cynicism here. Whether it's TV shows, video games, books, movies, or just whatever, you find FAR more posts saying how horrible/terrible/how much something sucks than you do people who like it. Okay, you're thinking outside of the box because you think RPGs are terrible. Get over it.
-Everyone talks behind people's backs and such. I can tell you right now there's going to be someone talking about me and this very post in IRC or something. I can't even count how many times I've seen conversations about other members in IRC or topics or whatever.
I guess that's all that comes to mind right now.
Post by: From Jungle on June 05, 2008, 02:01:36 am
To fit into GW, learn internet etiquette then do the exact opposite.
Also, what Feldschlacht IV said.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 05, 2008, 02:05:46 am
seriously look at like CATAMITES or whatever, anyone can join this imaginary elitist club (which I'm probably part of), you just have to try not to be awful consistently.
if you want to be IN THE CROWD, I mean, whatever, that's going to happen anywhere! people have cliques. like Afura's a cool dude but I don't talk to him like I'd talk to panda, but if that's elitism OH NO F*CK.
basically I think GW is a pretty easy place to fit into but with a very vocal minority who doesn't think so!
Post by: Strangeluv on June 05, 2008, 02:07:33 am
Post by: Lyric on June 05, 2008, 02:08:58 am
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 05, 2008, 02:09:38 am
like there's that post 9/11 topic about that forum talking about HOMOSEXIALITY...THE BUTT FUCK?? and here we can actually deal with a topic about the morality of using the word "faggot" on a forum or about how RE5 has implicit racism without a majority of people chiming in with a "feh...feh..."
this unfortunately creates a blockade even for potentially good members because all of us are probably slight idiots about shit but not one I've ever viewed as impassable!
They call me the poster boy of "reformed trolls". Anyone can be mod if I'm mod. I'm the William Hung of GW.
we actually do have a lot of people as mods or who were mods or whatever that most forums just would not even dignify. like I said, it's pretty easy to move around the GW sphere, it just requires a minimum of effort some people view as too much!
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 02:10:46 am
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Over the course of ten years this has been the number one compliant about GW and it rings true every single time.
I bet the majority are people who gw didn't like because they were shitty posters. HOW ELTIST
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 02:18:24 am
I bet the majority are people who gw didn't like because they were shitty posters. HOW ELTIST
False.
Post by: Erave on June 05, 2008, 02:20:58 am
I don't know about the mod thing though, I was a mod a long time ago.
Post by: Iaman on June 05, 2008, 02:22:29 am
blahblahblah ELITISTS blahblahblahWell that's just because we ARE better than everybody else.
Seriously, though. GW gets seen as elitist oftentimes because we have standards and we TAKE PRIDE IN THEM. I dunno how you were raised or anything but that's just sort of how life works. We've got standards because we don't want to be arsed to put up with bottom of the barrel pieces of shit, and, surprisingly enough, it makes GW as a whole a much better place to be. There's FAR less circlejerking going on here at GW than there is at, say, RMXP.org, and even though we don't treat every forum member nicely I think that just about everybody realizes that it almost always boils down to the PREDEFINED STANDARDS AND RULES that we've set up and that the people who don't follow them are faggots for not learning them. Sorry, jews. I'm not supposed to use faggot anymore.
On to the main subject of this topic; I'm still not sure if I fit in at GW. Hell, I probably don't. But I don't give a shit. I mean, I really don't honestly care if I fit in here or not, and I'm oftentimes happy just being able to say the shit I say and vent it out, and that makes me feel awesome.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 05, 2008, 02:24:49 am
it requires a slight thickening of skin but I think anyone who is like GW....HATES EVERYTHING... is just being a little too fragile about it.
elitism with no real power behind it is just some dude being a dick basically, and I kind of don't see me saying ERAVE...STUPID FAGGOT... as elitism! elitism I think kind of requires some degree of power or enforcement, not just a few people saying "christ you're an idiot".
and then let's not forget some people are really really stupid and its not some elite group that thinks this, but people are on IRC so someone posts a topic and yeah suddenly five people jump on one guy's back buttttt this happens everywhere!
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on June 05, 2008, 02:29:52 am
Post by: ase on June 05, 2008, 02:34:10 am
-GW is elitist as fuck. Period. Over the course of ten years this has been the number one compliant about GW and it rings true every single time. You'd have to be blind not to notice how much better GW thinks it is than everyone else. It's like if someone says "Hey guys, its been fun but I feel like I fit in more with this other forum over here so that's where I'll be" you can be assure there will be quite a few people going "How can he be there instead of here that place is so gay GW is the best". It's like you guys think you're in some exclusive club or some shit and you're automatically better than the rest of them.
GW is only elitist to the eyes of those who are used to hanging at internet communities where the members put absolutely no effort into challenging themselves or thinking critically or being creative. You may find us to be "elitist," but I personally see that as an indication that we're rejecting the shitty internet standards of stupidity that most everyone else seems to use. We "elitist" members take pride in being able to spot a 12-year-old's homophobic post on another forum and laugh about it not just because it's FUNNY, but because we're hoping some people will take a moment to scratch their heads and say "hey wait a minute"...... "lets put em on an Island called Gay-atopia" is a really stupid thing to say!
The elitism you're implying is some sort of disorder based on baseless ideas where we have no right to call idiotic people idiots or point out how someone's underdeveloped argument is weak and full of bullshit. I disagree. Whether it's an argument about video games, politics, pedophilia, music, or how to attract people to a website (let's.... bridge that gap......), the ability to say WOW WHAT A GAY IDEA (either in "nice" terms or exaggerated e-anger) and then list reasons why MY IDEA IS BETTER makes an otherwise indistinguishable 8-posts-registered-yesterday person 500% better than the 3000-posts-registered-3-years-ago shithead who whimpers in the corner and says "n...no.... your wrong.... adam sandler is my rolle model.......dont you dare diss waterboy....."
Everyone's free to have an opinion, but when you start saying "NO YOU'RE ALL ELITIST WHY CAN'YOU JUST ENJOY THIS MOVIE FOR ITS ENTERTAINMENT VALUE (hehe midgets)" then all you've proven is that you can't let go of your childish beliefs and refuse to be influenced by people who (GASP) have different opinions
edit: While I was writing this post, Steel mentioned the exact same homophobia callout topic as me, and climbtree said BRIDGE THAT GAP too. heh.. we're all such circlejerks
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 02:40:32 am
Also, I don't know where I fit in, but I feel like I must at this point. Years ago, when I first became a mod and started hanging out on IRC a lot and generally made my GW DEBUT as a person of interest and not just some random idiot who posted from time to time, I felt like I fitted in quite a bit. Like, into the IN GROUP the maybe the OUT GROUP or really, whatever you wanted to call that entire clique. But uh, idk, I eventually sort of came to be pretty disenchanted with a lot of those people, and since then I haven't really felt like I fit in at all. It feels like GW doesn't have much room for individual personalities if they don't somehow reconcile themselves with larger groups. Like, I felt like as soon as I stopped being a part of all that, I immediately lost whatever relevance I had, but maybe that was just the case with me. It doesn't really bother me much at all, but yeah.
So yeah I guess the answer is no, I don't, but I used to! I look at people like, idk, ASE or Adeline now and see people who sort of FIT INTO the community, and even though I post a lot and I guess I'm pretty involved in the community, it still seems like I'm looking in on things from the inside, and it didn't used to. Maybe it's just because being involved in the community as a whole doesn't necessarily mean you're involved with the people. The difference between then and now is that I think I used to have quite a bit of NET FRIENDSHIPS or whatever forged from GW, and now there are maybe one or two people from here I even bother to talk to anymore. IRC is a huge component, I think, and I didn't really realize that until right now! Before I got really active on it, I was more or less just white noise, and since I stopped being active, I've more or less reverted to being white noise, and I've felt more and more out of touch with the community and TRENDS and HUMOR and POPULAR IDEAS and all the things that define the site as a collective and not just a bunch of individuals who happen to be together.
It sort of makes me feel a little bit WISTFUL, because I liked the way I used to feel about GW and how I thought it felt about me, but I guess that's what it is to go through phases!
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 02:41:01 am
I think we need to bridge the gap.Man this is really not that funny anymore at all.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 05, 2008, 02:48:33 am
not that I feel particularly left out but there's a reason more often than not I post negative shit about directions because I just don't get how these bandwagons get started or something.
idk I wouldn't say I see someone like NinjaPirate and think HE AND I...LIKE THIS *daps fists* but at the same time I wouldn't say I'm outside that sphere. probably just because I've been on this hardcore GW burn since like December though!
Post by: Lars on June 05, 2008, 02:48:57 am
Post by: HL on June 05, 2008, 02:51:24 am
you know what, fitting in at GW often boils down to being on IRC, and not being an unpopular prick on there. most (though with quite a few exceptions) people I care about on the forums are people from IRC that enjoys hanging out. I think the key success to becomin' gw cool guy is irc'n and just chillin out.
yeah i totally agree with this.
Post by: ase on June 05, 2008, 02:56:56 am
I've never really been active on IRC until very recently (which I still wouldn't call "active") but I've felt like I fit in here ever since I sort of EVOLVED from stupid-ugly-moustached-whytfulookinatme to ASE. I'd say the moment that I first started to fit in at GW was when I gradually began to make posts in Post 9/11 World and felt like I wasn't a complete moron anymore.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 05, 2008, 02:58:42 am
which is holy shit unbelievably weird to think about because it's so strange GOTTA LIVE FORUMS.
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on June 05, 2008, 03:15:59 am
Post by: mkkmypet on June 05, 2008, 03:18:12 am
:3
EDIT: i agree with ASE. the post 9/11 world was one of the things that seemed to unite me with GW more. it made me more tolerant of the, uh, otomon-ish comments about me, and caused me to realize the great sense of humor that is GW.
Post by: Bravo on June 05, 2008, 03:22:00 am
but yeah, irc is the way to be!
Post by: Shepperd on June 05, 2008, 03:24:16 am
When I started university I began to stray and by this point I am on my own.
I don't care about fitting, maybe because I already proved myself and got bored.
Post by: TFT on June 05, 2008, 03:28:39 am
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 03:29:06 am
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-Everyone talks behind people's backs and such. I can tell you right now there's going to be someone talking about me and this very post in IRC or something. I can't even count how many times I've seen conversations about other members in IRC or topics or whatever.
This bothers me more than most of the other things I stated.
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 03:31:40 am
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-Too much cynicism here. Whether it's TV shows, video games, books, movies, or just whatever, you find FAR more posts saying how horrible/terrible/how much something sucks than you do people who like it. Okay, you're thinking outside of the box because you think RPGs are terrible. Get over it.btw i didn't see anyone touch on this so i'm just going to go ahead and say it's incredibly presumptuous of you to assume that people who say the don't like the terrible shit you're able to swallow are doing it just to ride the waves of a counterculture or something. whether you disagree or not, it's amazing to me that you can take someone whose standards are actually more discriminating than yours, and somehow dismiss them as just being SHEEP or some shit. it's insulting and belittling, and considering that despite the amount of times you've come out as vocally liking mainstream garbage, none of us has ever said "heh mog's just trying to fit into the mainstream culture", also way out of line.
it's such a copout to automatically attribute the opinions of otherwise intelligent people to some desire on their part to want to stand out. most of us are well beyond that bullshit and actually make fun of people like this on a regular basis, so where do you get off? it's not as if we don't substantiate our opinions about WHY we think this shit sucks, nor is it as if none of us like any mainstream things at all, as i'm pretty sure most of the people you're talking about actually enjoy a fair amount of things that, if they actually gave a shit about RAGING AGAINST THE NORM, they would hate.
also people talk behind other peoples' backs wherever you go, but this is one of the best places for it, because most of the things said behind peoples' backs would also be said to their faces. there are very few things i say in private that i wouldn't say directly to someone, and i think that goes for a lot of people here. with how much open hostility takes place on the forums, i hardly think you can call us out on being two-faced.
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on June 05, 2008, 03:32:59 am
This bothers me more than most of the other things I stated.
Well that's what happens when people have some mode of communication, buddy.
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 03:36:03 am
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btw i didn't see anyone touch on this so i'm just going to go ahead and say it's incredibly presumptuous of you to assume that people who say the don't like the terrible shit you're able to swallow are doing it just to ride the waves of a counterculture or some shit. whether you disagree or not, it's amazing to me that you can take someone whose standards are actually more discriminating than yours, and somehow dismiss them as just being SHEEP or some shit. it's insulting and belittling, and consider that despite the amount of times you've come out as vocally liking mainstream garbage, none of us has ever said "heh mog's just trying to fit into the mainstream culture", also way out of line.
Sometimes it seems that way I don't know! It's just tiring hearing everyone talk about how much this thing or that thing sucks all the time. Just my perception.
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also people talk behind other peoples' backs wherever you go, but this is one of the best places for it, because most of the things said behind peoples' backs would also be said to their faces. there are very few things i say in private that i wouldn't say directly to someone, and i think that goes for a lot of people here. with how much open hostility takes place on the forums, i hardly think you can call us out on being two-faced.
I knew you'd say exactly that. I just hate it people talk about people when that person isn't present, whether they would do it to their face or not. People talk behind backs and closed doors a lot here, more than any community I've ever really been on and it's tiring to see!
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 03:37:16 am
Post by: baseball19225 on June 05, 2008, 03:37:56 am
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 03:38:10 am
so wait you just think NO ONE SHOULD TALK ABOUT ANYONE if that person isn't present? man that's just grossly unrealistic and impractical.
No I just said I see it a hell of a lot more here than anywhere else I've ever been and its pretty gay and petty.
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on June 05, 2008, 03:38:36 am
Man this is really not that funny anymore at all.
maybe it was meant to be relevant to why MOG might think we're elitist?
there are people that get GW and people that don't, the people that get it usually fit in and together make fun of those that don't.
it's like if we were all playing soccer and somebody kept picking up the ball and dribbling it. furthermore there's dribblers that would be like 'oh sorry dude i don't know the rules of the game,' and the team would go easy on them and maybe coach them (unless they were dribbling in a style that's detestable and thought it was really awesome), but there's the ones that come in dribbling and when we yell at them that slip on some shades and go 'yeah chumps you're worthless at jump shots, check this out' and they just keep dribbling.
basically as long as you're not a dribbler you'll fit in (sorry drule)
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 03:40:44 am
Post by: mkkmypet on June 05, 2008, 03:45:24 am
yeah.
Post by: XxSylverxX on June 05, 2008, 03:48:43 am
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 03:50:30 am
haha, seeing mog say those things reminds me of, like, the wimpy, annoying middle-school kid who gets made fun of behind his back and then he talks to the school counselors and they get the kids suspended or something, and then when the kids come back from suspension, they talk about mog even more and hate him for telling on them. and then he cant get involved in a conversation without harboring negative feelings towards those people even when the whole situation only started because he was annoying them and being a jerk to begin with, and then they stop caring about all that stuff, and mog still is upset.
yeah.
It's nice to see that you don't know what the hell you're talking about and you're trying to hard to fit in yourself, mkkmypet. Way to go! Good job!
Anyway, it's not like fitting in here is hard, but it's an acquired taste; you either do or you don't, and you're not any worse or better of a person either way. GW definitely has its own style that not everyone is going to like.
Mog, if you hate it here so much why the hell are you here? seriously man are you some kind of masochist?
I don't fit in here and there's a lot of things I could point out about GW that I don't like but I certainly don't hate it here. This place is too big and varied to just collectively hate. I come and I go as I see fit.
Post by: Bravo on June 05, 2008, 03:50:47 am
Post by: ase on June 05, 2008, 03:55:58 am
Alright guys, cool it. We've established that M.O.G. doesn't like it here at GW due to MANY FACTORS and this topic is just turning into another MOG VS THE WORLD topic so no more of this shit.
Afura did not want this topic to turn in to this, so let's post about how you do/don't fit in at GW.
Post by: Divine Hate on June 05, 2008, 04:00:13 am
Never tried to fit in here.. I just do about my business and that's it.
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on June 05, 2008, 04:00:27 am
I think I am one of those people that if I suddenly went missing there would be no mention of it other than 'hey where'd that TREG guy go'.
Also, pretty sure very few people would be heartbroken here if I got a dangerous medical condition :(
Post by: esiann on June 05, 2008, 04:00:55 am
factors that contributed to my feeling somewhat at ease with posting: i participated in irc and werewolf on it, did some mtc, did breakfast club, and uh what else... netplay i guess. mainly i was just more involved and thus had more to talk to people here about. also it was the summer and i didn't have anything else to do. it's the summer again, but it's hard to get past that barrier of unease so i doubt it will happen again.
bravosector i'm not really sure what you're talking about/if you are serious in any way but mog posted directly above you and a bunch of people are talking to/about him
oh huh FOR ALL YOU NOOBS OUT THERE: just participate in a bunch of shit and you will probably feel more at home
Post by: Standard Toaster on June 05, 2008, 04:07:04 am
maybe if i can win misaos.... they will like me............
Post by: Bravo on June 05, 2008, 04:08:21 am
also, TREG you'd be like the janitor from Scrubs (pop culture reference YES!)
Post by: goldenratio on June 05, 2008, 04:08:28 am
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 04:11:45 am
I know for a fact you don't have it on rpgmaker.com but then again that could be why we find it alot less interesting and you find it alot more welcoming.
edit: I also hope you don't just come here to advertise with that stupid little sig either.
WAIT, I just noticed all the posts above mine. This has been covered methinks, back to the topic please
We could seriously use this to make a sticky for new members if we got some key points up, thoughts ase?
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 04:18:25 am
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 04:20:16 am
wait, what would the key points be? i don't just want one with mkk and mog being stupid!
like a new topic which says welcome to gaming world, here is some key points you should know about in order to feel like a part of the community:
*participate in forum events
*use irc
*understand our aquired comedy etc
* dont take everything too seriously
*participate in forum debates
Post by: Grin Tree on June 05, 2008, 04:20:56 am
I tend to lurk around and observe things, sometimes just nitpicking at others' posts without really going out of my way to type up an informative, thought-out one myself. I've been on IRC in the past, but I usually end up uninstalling the X-Chat/mIRC program altogether when I get bored of it. I do enjoy reading other posts on here (particularly in political discussions), but I'm not even confident enough in my own ability to debate in that area, that's why I choose not to really add anything in serious discussions. The only discussions I really feel like I can add to are ones pertaining to music, but it's so subjective that it'll never be more than some guy's opinion. I don't know.
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 04:22:41 am
yeah maybe that'd be nice, but i think this is all sort of knowledge anyone who's going to fit in eventually acquires for themselves! like, DO STUFF, COME ON IRC, JOKE AROUND is pretty basic!
also sion youre like one of the FOUR MODS who for some reason weren't premium'd when they quit. you should ask about that or something.
edit. actually now that i think about it three of the four i can think of are you hydan and darkblood. i guess no one cares about resources....
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 04:25:11 am
Post by: ase on June 05, 2008, 04:33:32 am
As long as we make it clear that these aren't REQUIREMENTS, just helpful hints if you want to fit in better and maybe stand out a little bit
Post by: Wil on June 05, 2008, 04:36:19 am
what i mostly love about this place is that people can't get away with saying racist homophobic shit without being called out on it... like that topic in p 9/11 mentioned earlier, you NEVER find that here, which is a relief because i think that stuff is very common (rottentomatoes.com debate forum REEKS of that kind of stuff, and it's a pretty big community). i've become so used to GW's no-bullshit attitude that running into some of the WILDER areas of the internet leaves me kind of culture shocked.
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 04:37:37 am
Post by: Grin Tree on June 05, 2008, 04:42:54 am
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edit. actually now that i think about it three of the four i can think of are you hydan and darkblood. i guess no one cares about resources....
Yeah, they both disappeared off the face of the Earth. As for the resources forum, I guess so...it's definitely not as active as it used to be, either. I remember when there'd be 5-6 new threads a day with people just requesting shit for their RM games and it was too much for Hydan. It's definitely inactive now, but then it was a big enough deal to have Faust and a crapload of other members cavity search the new applicants raw (we tied so Bart gave us both modship). My mod history aside, I think I'll just buy premium whenever I can. Otherwise I wouldn't really be helping GW out.
Not to stray off topic too much, but yeah, I think I DID at one point fit in, just not anymore. I need to find a new niche, which will probably end up being music creation.
EDIT: REDOWNLOADING X-CHAT NOW.
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 04:48:16 am
Post by: Grin Tree on June 05, 2008, 04:49:28 am
Post by: Bravo on June 05, 2008, 04:49:59 am
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what i mostly love about this place is that people can't get away with saying racist homophobic shit without being called out on it... like that topic in p 9/11 mentioned earlier, you NEVER find that here, which is a relief because i think that stuff is very common (rottentomatoes.com debate forum REEKS of that kind of stuff, and it's a pretty big community). i've become so used to GW's no-bullshit attitude that running into some of the WILDER areas of the internet leaves me kind of culture shocked.yeah GW has actually helped in my development as a person (sounds like college essay bullshit but seriously). basically this was one of the few places i actually got real world tips on not being an ignorant fuck during high school. thank you gw!
also i liked sion, change it back
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 04:51:23 am
Post by: Grin Tree on June 05, 2008, 04:53:46 am
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 04:54:47 am
no such luck buddy
but to be fair THE PANDA EXPRESSION is a pretty ridic name so i think we're in the same boat
Post by: Wil on June 05, 2008, 04:56:17 am
panda expression wasn't bad... a little cheesy but not bad
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 05:02:19 am
Post by: goldenratio on June 05, 2008, 05:03:36 am
Post by: Grin Tree on June 05, 2008, 05:07:33 am
That name had carried over from Don Miguel's board and GGZ, which was back when I was still in middle school. When I registered here in 2003, I never bothered to change it until I wanted to become a mod and I think Xanqui called me out on having the dumbest fucking name.
The Bouncer was some game I rented and thought would be rad to name myself after the main character (don't do this kids, it only works in GameFaqs and Gaia Online). Really, it's not any better than people with CLOUD STRIFE or SEPHIROTH as their username. When I changed it to Grin Tree, it was because people kept telling me I spelled "Scion" wrong. (That's after I came back from my huge hiatus and decided it was time for a new one)
Panda Expression isn't bad, though.
Post by: Mongoloid on June 05, 2008, 05:11:44 am
Steel
headphonics
scuba
jamicus
chef
konix
climbtree
cowfiend
DN
strangelub
bakusan
People You shouldn't like:
Mog
aten
nightblade
I have never really fit in here until recently, I think because I have kind of this douchebag sense of humor that GW has missed out on till now.
I'm not part of the cliques or anything because I refuse to use IRC. Otherwise I'm sure I'd talk to a lot of you guys pretty frequently.
Post by: sharksweetheart on June 05, 2008, 05:16:16 am
Post by: Kezay on June 05, 2008, 05:18:24 am
I haven't really had many complaints about the place either. I think Mog might have a point with how much more cynical some members are, however and I'm sure there are quite a few who might hold a similar opinion. It's not exactly something you have to search for, but otherwise I wouldn't agree that the overall tone of the place is one that is elitist. If that were the case, I would have made my goodbye thread a long time ago.
Post by: Blitzen on June 05, 2008, 05:23:19 am
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on June 05, 2008, 05:31:12 am
Post by: dada on June 05, 2008, 06:21:21 am
GW is only elitist to the eyes of those who are used to hanging at internet communities where the members put absolutely no effort into challenging themselves or thinking critically or being creative.This.
If you can't fit in, you aren't trying very hard. We're an accessible community and there are plenty of people willing to inaugurate newcomers. In fact, we even have a special subforum for it. There are no special perks for getting a high post count or staying in the community for a long time, and moderation isn't slanted towards the favor of oldbies. If you think we're elitist, or difficult to fit into at all, I don't know, maybe you just haven't visited the wrong forums yet.
(Then again, I probably am part of the so-perceived "elitists", so don't take my word for it.)
Post by: Pulits on June 05, 2008, 06:55:39 am
Post by: Strangeluv on June 05, 2008, 07:16:12 am
Post by: fatty on June 05, 2008, 07:30:17 am
Mog, if you hate it here so much why the hell are you here? seriously man are you some kind of masochist?Yes I am
Post by: bible_basher on June 05, 2008, 08:28:08 am
Post by: Rye Bread on June 05, 2008, 09:30:00 am
Post by: dicko on June 05, 2008, 09:52:57 am
plus i'm part of that club that can say I'VE MET ANOTHER GWER AND LIVED TO TELL THE TALE.
ps headphonics i've got one of JPC's games on me do you want it?
Post by: Jayce on June 05, 2008, 10:22:21 am
SionBarzahd183284 or some shit
no such luck buddy
but to be fair THE PANDA EXPRESSION is a pretty ridic name so i think we're in the same boat
Say out of curiosity, do you remember when I first came here?
Mostly targetted at You and Jeff, I can remember being an absolutely retarded asshole (I was 15 geez), I sort of feel like asking if you both still have that as a predetermined thought of me.
As far as 'fit in' goes, I'm a middle-man, not shunned by the community but not admired either.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 05, 2008, 10:25:02 am
gw breakfast club 4: island of misfit boys.
Post by: Cheshire Cat on June 05, 2008, 10:49:55 am
I'm not really recognised but nobody gives me any hassle, so nee bother. Essentially, i'm switzerland.
Post by: Biggles on June 05, 2008, 12:53:06 pm
Anyway what I am trying to say is that fitting in is not really that important since gw is pretty amusing either way and I am pretty much #1 qualified expert of not fitting in imo. People tend to be fairly friendly or at least polite on here unless you're being monstrously retarded.
Post by: chanicakes on June 05, 2008, 01:46:49 pm
But I am sure that I do fit in from many aspects, from having an opinion that some can agree with to my freakishly geeky girl ways of watching anime and playing videogames at 20 when there is only 1 other person I know that does the same thing.
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 05, 2008, 02:11:02 pm
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I have met some brill people on GW some of whom I natter to on MSN every day. Never been a great IRC presence because I've never really felt the need. If the forums goes down I'm there right away.
If you contribute something cool to the site people are going to respect you for it. If you whine and you're negative all the time people are gonna get bored of you real quick.
So Mog - Chill man. Just chill. The less posts you have where you highlight the word Period the better.
Post by: Wash Cycle on June 05, 2008, 02:14:41 pm
I think theres some of you that like having me around, such as the #music crew. outside of that I havent really gotten to know anyone that well heh
Post by: Seawed on June 05, 2008, 02:29:03 pm
Post by: Bill Murray on June 05, 2008, 02:36:01 pm
Post by: Dale Gobbler on June 05, 2008, 02:41:57 pm
Post by: tuxedo marx on June 05, 2008, 03:04:36 pm
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gw breakfast club 4: island of misfit boys.shit don't remind me of this, that was awful!
Yeah, I don't care if I don't fit in. The vast majority of you guys are either great posters or just plain great (especially you "Cool" Members), and that's good enough for me. Maybe that's why I'm drifting away from other (shit) communities!
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 03:09:41 pm
Post by: HL on June 05, 2008, 03:17:59 pm
NO ONE KNOWS WHO I AM
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY
WHY HIS NAME TEAL
/wrists
Post by: dragonx on June 05, 2008, 04:23:19 pm
Dragon_X, with a name like that how couldn't I fit in
Post by: Lars on June 05, 2008, 04:27:23 pm
I think theres some of you that like having me around, such as the #music crew.#music is essential to fitting in here because that's where all the cool people of gw hang out...
Post by: UPRC on June 05, 2008, 04:33:57 pm
Post by: tuxedo marx on June 05, 2008, 04:36:15 pm
Wow, it's surprising how many people are saying that they don't fit in. I don't mean anything sardonic or sarcastic by it, many of these comments are made by people who to me, are quite established here.hmm, this is mostly because 'fitting in' is usually a huge fallacy involving everyone being pretty much like (and liked by) everyone else. I don't know about you, but I find that really boring.
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 04:37:31 pm
Post by: tuxedo marx on June 05, 2008, 04:44:23 pm
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 05, 2008, 04:48:25 pm
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 04:48:52 pm
Post by: tuxedo marx on June 05, 2008, 04:50:26 pm
Post by: Haunted-House on June 05, 2008, 04:53:40 pm
crumply, that name script...gives me a bead of sweat, every time.
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 04:57:22 pm
Say out of curiosity, do you remember when I first came here?I just remember you being kind of a dumb guy from Game Ideas, but not the dumbest, and not really an asshole either! Also unlike most apparently you stopped being dumb at some point while I wasn't paying attention.
Mostly targetted at You and Jeff, I can remember being an absolutely retarded asshole (I was 15 geez), I sort of feel like asking if you both still have that as a predetermined thought of me.
As far as 'fit in' goes, I'm a middle-man, not shunned by the community but not admired either.
also
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ps headphonics i've got one of JPC's games on me do you want it?fuck yeah!
and jesus christ will you let the name script thing go already? it was really only funny the one time with strangeluv did it.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 05, 2008, 05:22:50 pm
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Also unlike most apparently you stopped being dumb at some point while I wasn't paying attention.
hey Carius I'm going to echo this because I feel the same way about you, good job!
Post by: Strangeluv on June 05, 2008, 05:42:11 pm
Post by: Bobberticus on June 05, 2008, 05:47:03 pm
Post by: Kaempfer on June 05, 2008, 05:48:47 pm
A couple of people have mentioned not using RM*/gamesmakerfactory/etc in a long time as grounds for not fitting in, but I am pretty sure no one who I view as the in crowd at GW ever posts in G&D or about G&D without insulting it in the same sentence! Now they could just be avoiding like the plague, which is understandable, but I would think that if all the cool kids were making awesome games a G&D topic would pop up once and awhile!
For the most part it seems to me that only really established members are allowed into the in crowd! There are a handful of exceptions of course, but it's like this is how the popularity breaks down: primarily: been around for awhile heh, secondary: hey I get it me too guys and tertiary: I am an acceptable member/human being! and then everyone else is either just kind of there or kind of shitty!
Obviously not everyone who has been around for a long time is popular and not everyone new is doomed to be picked last, but there is certainly a lot of "hey remember that conversation on AIM/MSN/IRC that is why we are friends!" and while that isn't a bad thing it's hard as fuck to just suddenly do.
Although yeah whenever someone quotes me (never happens) I am like "wow yay!", although otherwise I don't really care that much. I mean, it's cool to have clout wherever you go but gaming forums rank pretty low (just above turnip store) on my list of places I wish I was popular. By which I mean "being generally well received" is my goal.
Post by: Seawed on June 05, 2008, 05:49:55 pm
i'd say anyone whoI almost fell for it for a second and then I remembered that a few people's sigs do that. So I quoted Lars to confirm my suspicion. But seriously, that almost broke my heart :'(falls foruses the name script doesn't fit in that well!
Post by: Strangeluv on June 05, 2008, 05:51:22 pm
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 05:59:12 pm
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I used to hang out on IRC all the time, but everyone ignored pretty much everything I said (except VB sometimes but he is gone now so ;_;) so I am pretty sure IRC is not a magical golden ticket or something!Yeah it is like this for a while, but I think if you stick around people start paying attention to you! When I first joined, I went on IRC a few times, and aside from Krinsdeath and KAZEURI, I'm pretty sure no one read a goddamn thing I said. idk what changed when I finally got around to being active like a year later, but something definitely did! So yeah that'll happen but I guess you just gotta TOUGH IT OUT and keep talking/typing a lot until people start noticing you as something more than background noise. It's also easier when the channel is maybe not completely active and a flood of text, so whatever you try to say doesn't get lost to the ANNALS OF HISTORY three seconds after you say it. I remember it could be sort of intimidating when there were like 18 people I didn't know talking at once, but less so when it was only three or four. This, along with the general stupidity of GW MASSES, is probably why I eventually preferred the whole intimacy of #tlc, since there were maybe ten people who would be active in the channel.
Anyway, I don't think IRC is necessarily a golden ticket, and it's not like it works this way with everyone, but yeah, I think with a lot of people on GW, it's the crux of their activity here, not the forums. When I was really active, the forums were just another outlet for the relationships that more or less originated on IRC (that's not to say I didn't know anyone before using IRC, but I kind of didn't; there's only so much you can get to know a person by just posting in the same video game threads as opposed to actually conversing with them).
Post by: Jayce on June 05, 2008, 06:45:41 pm
hey Carius I'm going to echo this because I feel the same way about you, good job!
Oh good, so the random Adventure Land topic didn't get too frowned at then...
Actually... scratch that, I don't want to know...
Also this name script is really annoying, especially since some people actually ARE using my name in posts.
EDIT: Rare instances that I was actually on IRC, I'm sure a lot of you remember me playing Rock Paper Scissors... (well, okay maybe just kaempfer, neophyte and dis...), otherwise it was always brad
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 05, 2008, 06:49:32 pm
Post by: TrickLobster on June 05, 2008, 06:50:52 pm
also i still secretly have a boner for panda/headphonics because he bought my premium membership like years ago, when it was something rare. I thought that was really fucking cool. That a random e-friend or something just spent 15 dollars on someone he doesn't even know who lives in delaware. that shit was crazy and i thought it was awesome. but yea, t-the good old days........
Post by: Marmot on June 05, 2008, 06:54:22 pm
what i mostly love about this place is that people can't get away with saying racist homophobic shit without being called out on it... like that topic in p 9/11 mentioned earlier, you NEVER find that here, which is a relief because i think that stuff is very common (rottentomatoes.com debate forum REEKS of that kind of stuff, and it's a pretty big community). i've become so used to GW's no-bullshit attitude that running into some of the WILDER areas of the internet leaves me kind of culture shocked.
i dont think thats true. i mean, the community is very lax concerning degoratory language that can be sexist. i use it all the time here.
i am member of another forum where you can get very heavy penalties for using homophobic language-m
Post by: From Jungle on June 05, 2008, 07:10:26 pm
I really agree that doesn't fit in here AT ALL. I have no idea what his "hey gw im cool i dont give a fuck" thing is all about but it's only driving him away from here. If only he'd stop it already... Or preferrably leave....??Stop what? Stop having a spine and not taking retarded shit? I'm sorry but that's something I'm not willing to do. At all. You're right though, I don't fit into the mold here. I don't think calling each other fags, niggas, and laughing at people dying or getting injured is funny. I also don't care for the whole "talking shit behind someone's back thing," which tends to happen often. Not saying every one here is like that, because I have talked to some nice people like Aztec, but most of you guys are. And that's fine.
I'm just going to leave. Personally, I have nothing against anyone here and I actually had some fun discussing things with you guys, but I don't usually stay in places where I'm not wanted. Not to mention that in my opinion, the negatives outweigh the positives here, so it's cool. I'll see you guys (not literally, that's just how I say good bye).
Also Lars, if you had an issue with me, why didn't you bring it up when I talked to you in #music? Not that it matters now, as I probably won't check this thread again. I don't feel like reading about people being happy about me leaving or insulting me on the way out, at the moment...or ever, really. Also, I must do the bouncy head thing once more...
:fogetbackflip:
It is so awesome. I love these icons.
Post by: ATARI on June 05, 2008, 07:12:54 pm
Post by: Dale Gobbler on June 05, 2008, 07:15:48 pm
I don't think I fit in, but w/e.
Post by: Strangeluv on June 05, 2008, 07:16:25 pm
I warned Lars for it. Don't use it again. It's not funny or clever... and it ruins the "Which G&Der are you" quiz......
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 07:18:04 pm
Post by: Seawed on June 05, 2008, 07:20:39 pm
Post by: Jayce on June 05, 2008, 07:21:38 pm
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 05, 2008, 07:21:48 pm
Post by: Jayce on June 05, 2008, 07:24:06 pm
And then for the actual user, it would be like a paradox on display.
Post by: Madolah on June 05, 2008, 07:39:58 pm
Post by: TrickLobster on June 05, 2008, 08:09:13 pm
stuff
did you even read what you quoted? it's a script homes.
Post by: Wil on June 05, 2008, 08:13:34 pm
i dont think thats true. i mean, the community is very lax concerning degoratory language that can be sexist. i use it all the time here.Well yah, that's true, but I mean you don't have people here that actually BELIEVE that stuff, and that's what I'm mostly concerned about. You're right about the language though.
i am member of another forum where you can get very heavy penalties for using homophobic language-m
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 08:21:52 pm
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 08:25:16 pm
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 05, 2008, 08:28:53 pm
Post by: ShinyToyGun on June 05, 2008, 08:29:29 pm
I really agree that doesn't fit in here AT ALL. I have no idea what his "hey gw im cool i dont give a fuck" thing is all about but it's only driving him away from here. If only he'd stop it already... Or preferrably leave....??
I don't give a fuck.
Not for free atleast. :naughty:
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 08:37:33 pm
what the fuck is LL.i was gonna ask this but GOOGLE revealed the most popular result to be what appears to be a wow forum sooooo
Post by: Apathy on June 05, 2008, 08:40:21 pm
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 08:43:56 pm
Post by: Vellfire on June 05, 2008, 08:46:37 pm
I don't give a fuck.
Not for free atleast. :naughty:
wait
was THIS one a joke
because if this happened after SO MANY POSTS ABOUT IT being that script, then holy shit
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 08:47:15 pm
i was gonna ask this but GOOGLE revealed the most popular result to be what appears to be a wow forum sooooo
Uh....no? It's LueLinks. It's a private forum (invite only) but it's very large, with about 300-400 active members on at a time.
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on June 05, 2008, 08:50:53 pm
He made it sound horrible though. Like... it was ytmnd+4chan+SHAREANYTHING with usernames.
Post by: ShinyToyGun on June 05, 2008, 08:52:48 pm
wait
was THIS one a joke
because if this happened after SO MANY POSTS ABOUT IT being that script, then holy shit
Yah, it was a joke. I was a bit slow on the uptake. @_@
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 08:53:23 pm
Thats some info on it.
I'm sure there are many websites who are better than GW at debating(not rpgmaker), I don't really see how this is relevant though. (Oh snap not elitist)
Post by: Vellfire on June 05, 2008, 08:56:29 pm
Signs of a dying member. Pitchwhite wouldn't stop raving about it until he finally disappeared.
He made it sound horrible though. Like... it was ytmnd+4chan+SHAREANYTHING with usernames.
It's part of GameFAQs isn't it?
In that case, sounds about right.
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 05, 2008, 08:58:15 pm
http://wikifaqs.net/index.php/LUElinks
Thats some info on it.
I'm sure there are many websites who are better than GW at debating(not rpgmaker), I don't really see how this is relevant though. (Oh snap not elitist)
Man you're GW's Silver Defender of Justice, aren't you?
Anywho, I wasn't saying that as an insult or anything; it was more of a bow to how out of all of the forums I visit, only one that I know of is better than one of GW's best attributes.
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 05, 2008, 08:59:10 pm
look at my avatar hes so happy
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 09:03:38 pm
Post by: Erave on June 05, 2008, 09:04:56 pm
I think a lot of the older members are not as active as before like Kezay and stuff. He used to be the shit back in the day but nowadays he just randomly pops up. IRC is a big deal too, I used to be on that like 24/7,
Post by: Vale on June 05, 2008, 09:27:25 pm
I still linger about on the forums and IRC though, cause it's fun sometimes.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 05, 2008, 09:28:22 pm
honestly my favorite threads, GW or otherwise, that might demonstrate depth of thought tend to spring up independent of original topic. like any kind of derail where someone says something cool or interesting, that's where I really see someone smart or whatever.
idk I've always been somewhat on the fence with the idea of DEBATE FORUMS/TOPICS even though I participate in them and sometimes they are good.
Post by: Dale Gobbler on June 05, 2008, 09:29:02 pm
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 05, 2008, 09:30:57 pm
Post by: headphonics on June 05, 2008, 09:32:55 pm
also that page seemed to tie luelinks pretty heavily to gamefaqs and i really only think one type of person posts on gamefaqs to begin with! plus it makes it sound like it's just for porn and warez and shit, like a much larger version of the zoo.
Post by: Neophyte on June 05, 2008, 09:38:27 pm
EDIT: Rare instances that I was actually on IRC, I'm sure a lot of you remember me playing Rock Paper Scissors... (well, okay maybe just kaempfer, neophyte and dis...), otherwise it was always bradHeh Carius thanks for the premium. I never liked it when you changed your name, I'm glad to see it's back to normal.seguinbeing a dick "More like Solitary Gayngel" along with bandwagonners joining in
Anyway I'm pretty sure I don't fit in, but that's really not that important to me. It's good to see some intelligent people on this forum though, which is why I visit it frequently.
If I ever changed my avatar I am pretty sure some would be like "hey where did that neo guy go" since everybody remembers me by that.
Post by: GirlBones on June 05, 2008, 09:48:30 pm
i used to try really hard to fit in
but then i realized that i didn't really want to???
so now i come here to goof off and laugh at my own jokes
sometimes i will make one that other people laugh at
but most of the time i assume that people generally ignopre my posts
but i love gw all the same
edt: i think the reason i didn't really fit in is because i try not to take anything online seriously ever. that irritates some people, but to be fair it irritates me when people feel the opposite (but not really) i think my favorite thing to do in gw is to make fun of people who take things seriously. i bet there are a few others who like to do this occasionally too. (btw this is probably why you get so much shit mog you need to chillax or go away)
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 05, 2008, 09:57:28 pm
Heh Carius thanks for the premium. I never liked it when you changed your name, I'm glad to see it's back to normal.
Anyway I'm pretty sure I don't fit in, but that's really not that important to me. It's good to see some intelligent people on this forum though, which is why I visit it frequently.
If I ever changed my avatar I am pretty sure some would be like "hey where did that neo guy go" since everybody remembers me by that.
You fit in IMO. You're one of the few members of G&D who isn't a total bitch :)
Post by: ase on June 05, 2008, 09:58:11 pm
Post by: GirlBones on June 05, 2008, 10:05:21 pm
does it matter
sc-sc-scrolling... god forbid
i like the way you can pace your post as if you were speaking
edit: also it goes back like 60 posts and two months or something why is gw so slow to show post records
Post by: ase on June 05, 2008, 10:13:50 pm
Post by: Swordfish on June 05, 2008, 10:15:05 pm
Personaly i find this commubnity to be abbrasive but they do it brecuse they don't want 12 year old's with no ability to see other points of view to come in so it means we don't have to talk to idots/morons so in that respect i like it.
I've done afew things, i mean i made or at least atempted to make a zelda game that apparently a fair amount of people wanted to play it (i think, correct me if i'm wrongh) when i finished it, only to cancel it due to it being badly coded lag tastic peice of targ (remember LOZ: Rise of mozrath?)
Overall i think i fit in, not sure what else to say though :P
Post by: Cray on June 05, 2008, 10:19:02 pm
Still for some reason I like it here.
And about people complaining about everything everytime, I think it's how people just are, I'm used to it now.
Post by: Rajew on June 05, 2008, 10:31:05 pm
Edit: It means a lot ASE. Th...Thank you. :fogetcry:(tears of happiness)
Post by: ase on June 05, 2008, 10:50:26 pm
I feel that I fit into GW. While I don't use the actual forums much, I frequent irc and people ridicule me(i assume friendlily, because if not that would be very rude guys!)/include me enough that I feel people know my name. I mean you're always going to have a group of people who don't like you/think you're dumb in every community, so why not ignore those people?I've only really seen you talk a few times on IRC and you seem to be a cool guy, if that means anything.
Post by: Lars on June 05, 2008, 11:32:57 pm
He even had the script quoted... He must not have seen through his vision of anger. I hope he does come back though...this was a huge misunderstanding...Yeah I sent him a PM and apologized and explained the script so hopefully he won't leave! I feel kinda bad about it now :(
Post by: Bonehead on June 05, 2008, 11:37:57 pm
so not too active either. Someone bought me a premium so I guess I'm popular though :D
edit
Oh and some of the links you holes post in 9/11 are awesome.
Post by: Tau on June 06, 2008, 10:36:16 am
Post by: esp on June 06, 2008, 01:48:28 pm
i mean i'm pretty innocuous when it comes down to it and don't really talk to any of the PROMINENT members bar a few (if thats how i should put it) but i get on well with just about everyone and understand a lot of the GW JOKES.
Post by: ATARI on June 06, 2008, 03:08:25 pm
Post by: thejackyl on June 06, 2008, 03:33:16 pm
Anyways, I don't really feel like I fit in here too well, but that's mainly because I don't know too many of you guys. If someone spills a members name, I'll usually know who they are talking about, but if they said my name in a post, I feel that not many people would even know me.
I'm like the kid at a kegger that stands in the corner and drinks while everyone else plays beer pong, socializes, and make complete asses of themselves. However, I'm probably wrong, and a few people may know me, but yeah...
God, that was the worst analogy ever...
Post by: hero_bash on June 06, 2008, 04:06:39 pm
Post by: Jayce on June 06, 2008, 04:15:29 pm
i think i fit in to gamingw well
i mean i'm pretty innocuous when it comes down to it and don't really talk to any of the PROMINENT members bar a few (if thats how i should put it) but i get on well with just about everyone and understand a lot of the GW JOKES.
Yeah, regarding the jokes and things like that, Hydan would always be talking about them, but because I didn't really have an involvement I couldn't grasp them enough to find them funny.
I decided to look at things for myself when the GWiki came along and after reading a lot of it, it made me want to post around the WHOLE FORUM more, solely so I don't miss things like the current gamesmasterjasper thread...
I fit in to the point where I'm one of the crowd laughing at the jokes, but I think it would be nice to get a taste of being the joker, it's just too difficult to get started really, but when it is started I love how every other regular joker gets in on it; chef and climbtree to name two...
Post by: reko on June 06, 2008, 04:17:06 pm
Post by: Bled on June 06, 2008, 04:32:29 pm
I don't really remember a lot of people from before, and just about everyone I do remember has changed their name at least three times in my absence. I'm not too worried about "fitting in" or whatever, though. I'm just gonna do my thing and hopefully not get banned again.
Post by: Yeaster on June 06, 2008, 05:47:29 pm
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Yeaster is the member that fits in the least if you ask me.
...People actually know I exist here? :rolleyes:
But no. I don't. I don't post here often enough, too UTR, which is what I want.
Post by: ATARI on June 06, 2008, 05:49:47 pm
I don't fit in GW. GW fits in me. I'm an elitist. :shh:
how does it feel... to have GW inside of you
Post by: Strangeluv on June 06, 2008, 07:03:16 pm
...People actually know I exist here? :rolleyes:
It's a name script.
Post by: kentona on June 06, 2008, 07:23:49 pm
Actually, I don't fit in here at all and only ever wanted to post my shitty RM2k3 games. (STOP USING THE NAME SCRIPT - a friendly member of the administrative team)
I'm an admin at RMN now.
Post by: manoftheponcho on June 06, 2008, 07:30:56 pm
Post by: Mateui on June 06, 2008, 07:36:57 pm
As to fitting in, it really depends on your perspective and personality. For example, I personally don't think that I ever fit in with or was part of the "hip" crowd, but that's never bothered me. But honestly, who is to say which GWers are hip and which ones are not? It's all so relative and truly I see GW as a large dysfunctional, yet lovable family. Even though you may not fit in with a certain group of GWers who share similar views and tastes, that's not the end of the world - GW is large enough that there are various crowds that you can belong to. GW is not composed of one group of people, and is not defined by them. It's a multi-faceted community.
I think it's best if you throw away any notions of fitting in and just be yourself. You don't need to reform who you are to belong to GW - as long as you can post coherently and have an open mind and attitude you'll "fit" in just fine. Oh, and being able to laugh at yourself helps.
Post by: kentona on June 06, 2008, 07:45:16 pm
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 06, 2008, 08:01:58 pm
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on June 06, 2008, 08:08:15 pm
how does it feel... to have GW inside of you
(http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/51366/pureuncutcocaine.PNG)
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 06, 2008, 08:23:30 pm
Post by: Grunthor on June 06, 2008, 08:41:04 pm
actually can we delete the posts that are still using the namescript in this thread, it's clearly still confusing people.
Already did.
Post by: Yeaster on June 06, 2008, 10:15:36 pm
It's a name script.
That makes perfect sense now.
Post by: Kitsune Inferno on June 06, 2008, 11:26:08 pm
Post by: Warped655 on June 07, 2008, 12:37:24 am
I've been around for a while though. I usually just lurk and when the urge hits me I post something. I have to say, GW and the Gamemaker community are the only 2 forums I've ever been a even remotely been a consistent member in. And I sort of felt my age in the Gamemaker community shortly after joining it so I left after the first 6 months of being there. The GM community is how I found out about GW though.
In pretty much any other forum I pretty much just lurk and maybe post just once or twice.
I'd probably get along with most of the people here if I hung out with them more or bothered to figure out how to connect to the IRC thing. Never could figure out how to connect and sort of felt stupid asking how to.
When it comes to the whole Elitist argument I suppose one could see some of it here but its not like GW is festering with it or something. I'm not one to get irritated at the typical internet behavior at other sites like people here seem to. Leetspeak, IMspeak, and generally acting like a ethically-lacking retarded psychopath have become so common that the behavior and communication method itself is being made fun of by the same people who created and propagated it on the internet in the first place. so the internet sort of come to the realisation that its been acting retarded, and reacted to information by continuing to do so while making fun of itself at the same time. Of course I guess I'm really only thinking of the 4Chan like crowd.
I'm forgetting about all the forums that seem to be so irritatingly polite to each other and seem ALWAYS happy when they post. Makes everyone on the forum seem like the same person. Like they are really just row of smiling robots gibbering at each other...
Wow... I kind of went on a wild tangent.... oh well...
EDIT: now that I think about it, it very rare that anyone feels like they fit in completely, unless they are at least somewhat egotistical.
Post by: Lord Kamina on June 07, 2008, 11:00:09 pm
I'm not sure why, what or where... But in general, it's like I grew very differently from people here. I mostly don't laugh at GW humor anymore nor do I share tastes with almost anybody here.
(Not to mention the fact I really hate some of the most "prominent members" 98% of the time)
In fact, I've thought of leaving the forums more than once now, but I've stayed... I don't know why, nostalgia perhaps...
Still, every once in a while I find a topic I like and whatnot...
I got to almost 5000 posts somehow, and yet... I don't think I post half as I what I used to now.
Post by: #1 Vodka fan on June 08, 2008, 01:18:03 pm
Post by: Shadow Kirby on June 08, 2008, 05:13:18 pm
Post by: halibabica on June 08, 2008, 05:47:26 pm
I'd probably be more prominent if I joined in IRC, but I'm fairly certain that would be the death of my free time. This forum already consumes so much of my life...it also doesn't help that I never have anything to say. Most of what I'd contribute has already been said by someone else, and it's usually more interesting just reading everyone else's opinions.
Post by: aboutasoandthis on June 08, 2008, 09:48:22 pm
I never really understood the point of the IRC. Aren't we supposed to be making stuff? It might be a nice way to get yourself known but it looks like a waste of time to me.
Post by: headphonics on June 08, 2008, 09:57:53 pm
I never really understood the point of the IRC. Aren't we supposed to be making stuff? It might be a nice way to get yourself known but it looks like a waste of time to me.You are, and it is, but the community is less about MAKING STUFF now, and more about relationships, so it's understandable that people would prefer shooting the shit to making games.
Post by: Vellfire on June 08, 2008, 10:01:32 pm
You are, and it is, but the community is less about MAKING STUFF now, and more about relationships, so it's understandable that people would prefer shooting the shit to making games.
Yeah, GW is more like lunch and less like class. You aren't supposed to be quietly doing your work, you're supposed to talk and hang out and have fun, but do some work if you need to.
Post by: bmx_skatepunk on June 08, 2008, 11:37:45 pm
I've tried many times to get into the forums, however, due to my irregular internet use patterns, its hard to get into a regular routine. And there's the fact that I have found myself intimidated more than once. The elitist attitude some have, the flame wars, and how easily it is to become hated/humiliated on the forums (not to mention having your humiliation permanently archived for everyone to see in the "Pile of Feces."
That intimidation factor has unfortunately kept me from rarely discussing the various game projects I am spending countless time on after seeing how easily things get bashed on the Game & Demo pages. I could devote so much criticism for that section, but I'll bite my tongue and simply say that people need to learn the difference between constructive criticism and elitist-inspired flaming.
Simply put, I guess I don't fit in on GW. So yeah, that's my two-cents.
Post by: Strangeluv on June 08, 2008, 11:42:29 pm
Post by: TFT on June 08, 2008, 11:49:57 pm
Post by: Lars on June 08, 2008, 11:52:18 pm
I never really understood the point of the IRC. Aren't we supposed to be making stuff? It might be a nice way to get yourself known but it looks like a waste of time to me.IRC is also the most effective place at GW to teach/learn things and show off your work imho!!
Post by: aboutasoandthis on June 09, 2008, 01:33:29 am
IRC is also the most effective place at GW to teach/learn things and show off your work imho!!
I have been silenced! :laugh:
Post by: Farren on June 09, 2008, 03:58:41 am
Post by: NightBlade on June 09, 2008, 02:34:03 pm
I come into IRC at the request of someone, and I'm openly mocked, called a "cunt" by community staff, and of course am given a heaping bowl of sarcasm.
I refrain from posting my views in most any discussion posted by certain members who will go unnamed purely because of the fact that if you disagree with them, you get antagonized, things escalate and the regular shmoe is the one who pays.
While I fear I have said too much, I'll keep it at that.
Post by: Dyne on June 09, 2008, 05:42:32 pm
actually i HAVE been referred to as a HUTT before. glug glug glug
p.s. if IRC is like a necessity, then i dunno, i really just cannot get into it.
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 09, 2008, 09:57:16 pm
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 09, 2008, 09:59:02 pm
ITS ALL ABOUT THE GAMES.
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 09, 2008, 10:02:14 pm
no its not, there's no one who hasn't been called a complete idiot on IRC that doesn't receive the same on forums or in private.
No, it happens quite often! Letting someone know personally that you think they're an idiot or whatever is fine and whatnot, but when you talk about a person further in a relatively private setting with ones friends, that's back talking and it happens on GW a lot.
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The best part of your posts is that avatar. It's funny picturing some random anime vixen in a suggestive pose complaining about internet forum politics
She's Aya Brea.. I guess enough people haven't played/heard of Parasite Eve? Ah well.
Post by: Tears on June 09, 2008, 10:02:25 pm
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 09, 2008, 10:08:29 pm
Post by: NightBlade on June 09, 2008, 10:11:43 pm
also no that's not BACKTALKING. if I say idly "christ that Magi dude is such a fucking dick" and then yeah, tell him he's a fucking dick, there's no backtalking. you and Nightblade
and company like to believe there is a secret cadre of IRC goons just flexing their fingers because maybe once someone invited you to a private chat about a gw issue and
someone also said "fuck that one guy" and now you think it's the norm but I've been a mod, admin, and staff, and I can more or less guarantee you any backtalking or insulting
behind the scenes is limited to "UGH THAT FUCKING STEEL GUY" (and if you have a problem with this you have a problem with all societies ever so shut up), not something
actually mean like "GOOD: CANCER...GOOD." or blacklists of stupid members. I remember Nightblade once posted "*smirk* nice to see Barkley insulted me" and Chef was
completely lost because mods, admins, whoever, we do not keep track of you idiots. if you are consistently stupid you're just a dumb guy, there's no secret illuminati
mark of Cain.
Sorry for the spacing, I was having trouble reading that gigantic run on sentence. The few times I've been in IRC; I've witnessed it; but really, but I honestly I don't go in there that much. (For obvious reasons)
As far as the whole barkley thing, I thought the whole bug thing was a jab at what I had just did like a day before. If I'm mistaken, well then that's a strange coincidence, but hardly relevant at this point.
You also seem to ignore the fact that certain members, and even moderators are allowed to break their own rules while others are penalized at the drop of a pin. Is that not elitism?
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 09, 2008, 10:11:56 pm
also no that's not BACKTALKING. if I say idly "christ that Magi dude is such a fucking dick" and then yeah, tell him he's a fucking dick, there's no backtalking. you and Nightblade and company like to believe there is a secret cadre of IRC goons just flexing their fingers because maybe once someone invited you to a private chat about a gw issue and someone also said "fuck that one guy" and now you think it's the norm but I've been a mod, admin, and staff, and I can more or less guarantee you any backtalking or insulting behind the scenes is limited to "UGH THAT FUCKING STEEL GUY" (and if you have a problem with this you have a problem with all societies ever so shut up), not something actually mean like "GOOD: CANCER...GOOD." or blacklists of stupid members. I remember Nightblade once posted "*smirk* nice to see Barkley insulted me" and Chef was completely lost because mods, admins, whoever, we do not keep track of you idiots. if you are consistently stupid you're just a dumb guy, there's no secret illuminati mark of Cain.
Now you're just taking what I said to an entirely different degree. I know you're going to have some sort of compulsion to retort to this like you do pretty much everyone but for the record I'm not going to respond to it if that's what you're looking for. I'm done talking to you! There's a lot of backtalking on GW, that's just how it is.
hey guy that kind of shit happens EVERYWHERE. Were you homeschooled or something because uh that is pretty much just how the world is.
Of course. But of course 1. This doesn't justify people gleefully doing it on GW (but that's a weak point I admit), and 2. It happens more on GW than any internet community I've ever, ever been on ever. It's like its a vertebrae on the backbone of GW's social structure, it's a damn shame.
Post by: jamie on June 09, 2008, 10:14:30 pm
you are taking MAN THAT IS GUY LAME talk way too seriously. if people were going around "i hear that guy's a serial rapist - tell everyone except him!" then okay but we are not talking about criminal accusations. basically, you are whining over almost nothing - i'm not saying i am a fan petty insults when people aren't around, but are you really so insecure that you can't stand the thought that people might be talking about you without your knowledge? that's your problem, not Gaming World Forums'.
and really, any shit people might say would be said anywhere. even to their e-face. do you really everyone is afraid to call someone names on the internet? there is nothing stopping anyone from saying anything they like to anyone at any time and most people do.
i wouldn't even respond cos this is silly but you keep going on about it jeeeeeeez.
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 09, 2008, 10:15:43 pm
Post by: thecatamites on June 09, 2008, 10:18:31 pm
Also I actually like the whole outwardly confrontational attitude here, it's nice to see people calling out someone who's being an asshole instead of just going "well, let's agree to disagree" or whatever. It's more entertaining, anyway.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 09, 2008, 10:18:53 pm
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It happens more on GW than any internet community I've ever, ever been on ever.
this is either because you have no idea what the real community is and they are making fun of you or you're lying.
seriously show me the magic communities where they aren't like "oh shit, it's -x- again, ugh".
and then show me how they are decent in any way if they don't.
ps nightblade that is not what a runon sentence means.
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You also seem to ignore the fact that certain members, and even moderators are allowed to break their own rules while others are penalized at the drop of a pin. Is that not elitism?
burden of proof on accuser.
Post by: jamie on June 09, 2008, 10:19:35 pm
what-ever, Feldschlacht IV. what-ever.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 09, 2008, 10:19:48 pm
*rests on laurels*
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 09, 2008, 10:22:00 pm
this is either because you have no idea what the real community is and they are making fun of you or you're lying.
seriously show me the magic communities where they aren't like "oh shit, it's -x- again, ugh".
and then show me how they are decent in any way if they don't.
(http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/36282/kelvin3.bmp)
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I still don't know whether I fit in or not, really! There are a lot of people I like and would be fairly friendly with, but regarding GW as a whole I'm not sure where I stand... Mainly because I don't go into Post 9/11 World that much and don't use IRC, I guess.
Also I actually like the whole outwardly confrontational attitude here, it's nice to see people calling out someone who's being an asshole instead of just going "well, let's agree to disagree" or whatever. It's more entertaining, anyway.
Despite the whole backtalking thing I said earlier, that's one of the things I do like about GW; that if you feel so inclined, you could just say "HEY FUCK YOU PAL" and everything would still be fine as long as you said it in the proper context. A lot of communities are too padded for their own good.
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 09, 2008, 10:33:41 pm
well clearly you do because you keep bringing it up. Would you prefer this place to be like a lot of other internet communities where everyone is running around giving *glomps* xD and *huggles* ^_^;; and moderators are forced to behave like robots in order to uphold stupid forum rules? This community has a whole ton of its own flaws but at least it's more closely grounded towards reality and the people here behave and talk like actual humans would.
I'm not saying that GW is terrible or anything. I'm just
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Would you prefer this place to be like a lot of other internet communities where everyone is running around giving *glomps* xD and *huggles* ^_^
Why does everyone have to give the worst possible alternative when these conversations come up? It's not very realistic.
Post by: NightBlade on June 09, 2008, 10:34:02 pm
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burden of proof on accuser.
For what? So I can get attacked by you guys again? Oh, so it can be spun in a different way or justified by the moderators and veteran members who said these words?
Alright, I'll find one for you. Let's see if the thread still exists... It was that long article posted by blitzen about game design. Blitzen posting his views. Better attack and antagonize him post haste.
Oh well, guess I'm a retard who can't work the forum search function; I can't find it. Maybe it has something to do with the former "Game ideas and discussion" forum no longer existing. But I'm sure you remember it well. Blitzen posted an article; the first reply is "You are gay" with nothing done to the poster, and the rest of the people run in and do their thing.
I started a word file log a little while ago taking note of all needlessly harsh replies by many unpunished people; until I realized the exploit was essentially a waste of time and meaningless. Also, a word file is not really hard proof.
Post by: Roman on June 09, 2008, 10:42:48 pm
Quote from: Steel
edit: sorry, bart was doing stuff on gw and I thought it was exclusive to this topic.
I'm going to read this and give you a better reply in a sec.
Maybe he said YOU ARE GAY at first but clearly that's pretty irrelevant.
Four posts later Drule in fact said YOU ARE GAY and went unpunished, but Drule isn't a mod, admin, or staff member, and the topic was in fact pretty gay so there goes your point.
edit: you did say CERTAIN MEMBERS so i guess your point still stands, except not really because the members that you are probably talking about actually have more warns than a lot of other members so.
Post by: Lars on June 09, 2008, 10:43:39 pm
we're all friends in there
friends... and comrades....................
Post by: headphonics on June 09, 2008, 10:43:54 pm
also
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burden of proof on accuser.oh come on you know this has happened MORE THAN A FEW TIMES in the past don't be a dick and just pretend he's making it up
ahahah seriously i hate that shit because everyone knows this has happened but it's so easy to just REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT and challenge someone to go find posts that don't exist because we don't have access to the archives
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 09, 2008, 10:46:09 pm
Post by: headphonics on June 09, 2008, 10:47:19 pm
Post by: Death Gulp on June 09, 2008, 10:50:02 pm
Post by: NightBlade on June 09, 2008, 10:50:20 pm
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Four posts later Drule in fact said YOU ARE GAY and went unpunished, but Drule isn't a mod, admin, or staff member, and the topic was in fact pretty gay so there goes your point.
Anyone else posting a one - three word reply would have been warned, no matter how bad the thread may or may not have been. At the risk of sounding biased, I remember one instance in which I replied to a two line thread "No" about a year ago and getting warned for it.
The fact that he was not a moderator or anything of the sort has no relevance either, as he's a veteran member and is good friends with staffers; if my memory serves me well.
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 09, 2008, 10:57:24 pm
Post by: dragonx on June 09, 2008, 11:04:43 pm
Post by: Tears on June 09, 2008, 11:16:17 pm
I probably get "back-talked" a lot too, but eh.
Post by: datamanc3r on June 10, 2008, 01:42:28 am
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So I don't understand why everyone cares so much on GWBLASPHEMY!!1
Actually, I kind of like GW. No, I don't fit in at all, but that's mainly because my posts suck. I'm sure if I were snide, argumentative, and swung my post count around like the internet-penis that it is, I could totally fit in.
Post by: Tears on June 10, 2008, 01:45:35 am
Post by: datamanc3r on June 10, 2008, 01:47:36 am
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 10, 2008, 01:52:08 am
Anyone else posting a one - three word reply would have been warned, no matter how bad the thread may or may not have been. At the risk of sounding biased, I remember one instance in which I replied to a two line thread "No" about a year ago and getting warned for it.
The fact that he was not a moderator or anything of the sort has no relevance either, as he's a veteran member and is good friends with staffers; if my memory serves me well.
that's not true at all. did you readt he thread? it was written in 1900s philosophy INTENTIONALLY. yeah no one would have gotten warned for that, it was a pretty garbagey post that was thoroughly incomprehensible.
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oh come on you know this has happened MORE THAN A FEW TIMES in the past don't be a dick and just pretend he's making it up
ahahah seriously i hate that shit because everyone knows this has happened but it's so easy to just REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT and challenge someone to go find posts that don't exist because we don't have access to the archives
nah its not really been a problem, especially in the last year or so (which archives dont really count). if anything I feel like we warn people too unfairly for shit we shouldn't still (marcus!!! you warned me!!!).
basically anyone whining about elitism at GW doesn't realize that if you aren't a fucking idiot it's not a problem. but...idiot has a shifting standard... blah blah quit being garbage, problem solved.
Post by: NightBlade on June 10, 2008, 01:56:33 am
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that's not true at all. did you readt he thread? it was written in 1900s philosophy INTENTIONALLY. yeah no one would have gotten warned for that.
... I don't even really know how to reply to this, so I think it's best I just stop.
Looking at the title of the thread, I probably shouldn't have even bothered looking. Sorry everyone.
Post by: headphonics on June 10, 2008, 01:57:24 am
but ya i would say you are pretty much 100% wrong and i don't know if you just REFUSE TO ADMIT IT or if you really do not pay attention at all but i see it on a somewhat regular basis even now, although it definitely occurred more in the past, so ya. i can't believe you'd actually deny that a double standard for enforcing rules exists and that NO ONE is more tolerant of some members than they are of others.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 10, 2008, 02:02:59 am
http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=5726.0
thread in question.
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But first, we must go forth with our creations to other nations, and show them with pride, and tell them where we came from. I think that the only way we draw people to our house is to bring to them what we have to offer so that they will follow us home. For while we may share whatever we make amongst ourselves, is it not good, or perhaps better, to share the fruit of your labors with strangers, and not just your family?
creations in question: RM2K.
fyi any post older than like five months is pretty much guaranteed to be gone at this point
but ya i would say you are pretty much 100% wrong and i don't know if you just REFUSE TO ADMIT IT or if you really do not pay attention at all but i see it on a somewhat regular basis even now, although it definitely occurred more in the past, so ya. i can't believe you'd actually deny that a double standard for enforcing rules exists and that NO ONE is more tolerant of some members than they are of others.
I don't see it? I get warned for all sorts of shit that no one should get warned for imho, if anything the burden of harshness only shifts when it's someone who is IN THE CROWD because you know if they are trolling or not
http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=6055%20.msg1318446#msg1318446
conversely mog has been pretty clearly trolling this topic (and really half of gw) BUT hasn't said UGH IDIOT FAGGOT GW GUYS so he's not going to get warned.
yeah there's a shifting burden of warning but I don't see that as elitism or a double standard but more of something that makes sense. are you going to warn mog for trolling here? of course not! am I probably harassing darkjak in the link I just gave? yeah! both are lightly breaking the rules. it's not elitism it just kind of makes sense to consider clear motivation here and Drule calling Blitzen gay in the GAYEST TOPIC POSSIBLE (short of dicks being posted) is not really something I'd say is preferential to Drule and more "yeah okay this is okay here because really guy".
Post by: headphonics on June 10, 2008, 02:11:44 am
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on June 10, 2008, 02:13:19 am
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on June 10, 2008, 02:21:49 am
Post by: cowardknower on June 10, 2008, 03:23:12 am
as for this whole elitism thing I pretty much side with the cool people. The only people who get all bitch bitch bitch about it are the ones who don't get anything at all.
Post by: Kaempfer on June 10, 2008, 04:18:43 am
I have honestly never seen anything close to what went on in that channel (#G&D) in #gamingw (I have rarely seen anything that seemed like more than friendly jibes or mild insults) but pretty much everything MOG and Nightblade described seems like a perfect detailing of the internet politics that went on there.
Steel, I have seen you say things like "don't hold a grudge blah blah" a lot (OK, it was only like two times I think!), and while I agree holding internet grudges is pretty stupid it seems more like people take personal offence to you due to the incredible ratio of antagonizing posts:friendly posts you have (or seem to have, I don't visit all the forums). Obviously there is uncalled for shit like "hey cancer nice jorb pal hope u fall off a bridge" but I honestly don't see how you are confused by people seeming to single you out in arguments and stuff! I am not saying there is anything wrong with not being all "hey great job being a racist" and having e-convictions or whatever, but there is no denying it is a good way to not make friends with the people you argue with.
It doesn't help people warm up to you when many other members of GW join in on it (regardless of how right you are!). Honestly I think there are a lot of people afraid to say things that counter what you say for fear of your harsh words. :(
edit: this is in no way a jibe at steel, I am just explaining that people view confrontations with him as a life or death struggle for their internet reputation sometimes!