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Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: PTizzle on June 13, 2008, 03:59:22 am
So, the new Hulk movie. It's a 'Marvel reboot' of the franchise, ignoring the previous film and going its own way. It stars Edward Norton, Liv Tyler, Tim Roth and William Hurt. The director is Louis Leterrier who did the Transporter films and Unleashed (with Jet Li).

Quote from: IMDB Plot Synopsis
Depicting the events after the Gamma Bomb. 'The Incredible Hulk' tells the story of Dr Bruce Banner, who seeks a cure to his unique condition, which causes him to turn into a giant green monster under emotional stress. Whilst on the run from military which seeks his capture, Banner comes close to a cure. But all is lost when a new creature emerges; The Abomination.

I saw this last night (Australia got it a day early) and although I'm not a big comic book fan, this movie was actually pretty damn good. It's not incredibly deep but balances the emotion it has with the action well, Ed Norton is great and the CGI is fantastic (not totally seamless, but definitely not distracting and it's visually very spectacular). The pacing is great - the action isn't too drawn out and the dialogue is well placed and keeps the film moving forward rather than being pointless exposition.

All round I think fans will be pretty pleased, criticism has been leveled at the CGI Hulk but it really suits the film and once you've seen it you'll understand why it works. The movie isn't gonna change lives or anything like that, but it is a very good popcorn film and will definitely entertain.

So yeah, thoughts? Gonna see it?
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: theHunter on June 13, 2008, 06:24:04 am
Hopefully I'm gonna go see it next week, I tried to get tickets for the opening monday but they where already sold out.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: mud on June 13, 2008, 07:07:17 am
How was the movie compared to the last one?

I hated that release (boring Hulk zzz & Banner scenes especially), but loved the Hulk comics. :)
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: PTizzle on June 13, 2008, 07:16:22 am
I haven't seen the last, but from all accounts I've heard (my friends who were with me saw it) it's a lot better.

Certainly not boring at all. It's a real 'see it in the movies' film, very good action.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Wil on June 13, 2008, 09:18:10 am
Does Liv Tyler ruin this film, or does she play her usual role as the crying woman with puffy red eyes who stares off into the sky?
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Dark Angel on June 13, 2008, 09:35:46 am
I thought it was pretty good. I could feel the anger in the battles, especially the last one.

And Liv does have a scene where she has red puffy eyes and is staring into the sky at the Hulk.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Liman on June 13, 2008, 10:32:35 am
My beautiful thread... RIP
http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=4717.0

I've actually been rather sceptic about the film. The trailers have been awful and I have a hard time seeing Edward Norton as Bruce Banner. I think Eric Bana was a better choice because he was a rather unknown actor when he did it. Anyway, lately the positive buzz have given me some hope that it's actually good. I like Hulk as a character and Edward Norton ranks among my favorite actors despite feeling out of place here.

We'll see.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: hima on June 13, 2008, 04:27:08 pm
I probably not gonna see the movie since I haven't even seen the first Hulk movie.  :S I'll probably wait for DVD though.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Liman on June 13, 2008, 04:42:16 pm
You don't have to see the first movie. They are not related in anyway. This is a new take on the franchise.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: hima on June 13, 2008, 04:46:55 pm
Oh , I didn't know that! Thanks Liman :) I'll see if there's any of my friend want to come and see it then.  Actually , my bad. I should have read the first post more carefully = =  PTizzle already stated that this is a new take and not a sequence.

So it's either this or The Happening. Tough choice :S
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Liman on June 13, 2008, 04:48:33 pm
The Happening has gotten some really terrible reviews from what I've heard. Really slow and boring. That's something you can rent later. Go with the smashing Hulk.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Crim on June 13, 2008, 06:20:41 pm
Might need a recast, but maybe it'll be so good we wont notice. Or Eddy N. will suprise us.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Mateui on June 13, 2008, 06:27:05 pm
I refuse to see this film. I'm not a big fan of the Hulk - and I do not see Edward Norton as the character either... he just doesn't fit the role at all. He even annoys me in the trailer, and honestly I don't mind him in other films. I'm just going to pass on this and wait until the Dark Night gets here.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: HL on June 13, 2008, 06:42:08 pm
Must see film.

Comes in 2nd place to Iron Man, but this is the best super hero film (barring Iron Man) in quite some time.

Marvel seems to be on a nice streak here.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Aten on June 13, 2008, 08:52:02 pm
Quote from: handsome lamb on June 13, 2008, 06:42:08 pm
Must see film.

Comes in 2nd place to Iron Man, but this is the best super hero film (barring Iron Man) in quite some time.

Completely agreed. Hulk is incredibly awesome, and theres points in the movie that just got me pumped.

A Must see film.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: missingno on June 14, 2008, 12:10:17 am
pasting my replyfrom another forum

so i just saw incredible hulk and i liked it a lot. the fight scenes and shit were totally badass (ie. no pussy martial arts shit but just GIANTS BASHING THE FUCK OUT OF EACH OTHER) it was brutal and raw and totally my kind of fighting. beyond that the movie wasn't really SPECTACULAR but it was really solid. it's been said that it's just as good as iron man and i'd agree. it's a very different feel from iron man but it's definitely got the same QUALITY to it as a film. the highlight is definitely the hulk scenes and shit but there's a lot on edward norton's "Regular" bruce banner too and it's really nice.

the best thing about the movie i'd say (other than the way the fight scenes were handled) is that it isn't an ORIGIN STORY THANK GOD. the origin story is explained in a montage behind the opening credits and referenced throughout the movie. SO MANY superhero movies these days are bogged down by telling the origin story, and this does a really nice job of putting it behind and just getting to the shit that people want to see.

the ending hints at the avengers in a pretty cool way when tony stark shows up. this time, we don't even have to wait through the credits (i didn't wait, so there's a chance there was more afterwards (a pretty decent chance that there's another nick fury scene actually but i dont know)). there were also lots of shit that totally could have been/were referencing CAPTAIN AMERICA's own origin story within the movie.

i mean when i first heard of the plans for the avengers shit i was really excited, after seeing iron man i started really looking forward to it and now i can't wait. hurry up with captain america and thor!! >:o
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: pburn on June 14, 2008, 03:40:39 am
Ever since Marvel started their independent production company, all their trailers have been REALLY REALLY SHIT compared to the movies.

Why is this!!??
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Fish on June 14, 2008, 08:46:20 am
Saw it tonight, it was a pretty packed house. There were surprisingly a lot of kids there too, I feel like there should be such a disconnect from little kids and comics these days, I mean I never read comics when I was a kid I figured there werent a whole lot of younger kids these days reading them either. Are there still cartoons on tv, or do most of these heroes live on in kid culture because of toys and stuff?

Anyways I thought it was a pretty entertaining movie. I loved how they laid out the first parts of the film, quickly presenting the origin story in montage and fleshing it out throughout the film, its refreshing. The whole scientist on the run scenario was pretty tight too. Its remarkable that a place like where hes hiding actually exists, those houses are crazy.

The CG doesn't really bother me so much because its a definite improvement over the last film, and its as realistic as I can really imagine, I mean we are talking about a green giant essentially, there's not really a spot in my brain that knows 'normal' for that. I think the Hulk is probably forever destined for a bit of uncanny valley.

The fights are pretty sweet, they seem to find a good mix of destructive carnage and super strength. I do think its a bit weird that the two giants can throw each other around so much, I mean shouldn't their strength be about fitted for each other? It makes sense that they can throw us a mile, not each other.

Overall I'm pretty happy with Marvel at the moment, this is a worthy next move after Iron Man, and they did good even though the first one was a more hip and less serious franchise. They do have their hardest stuff to come though, its gonna be hard to hype the next few movies, Captain America I feel won't be extremely hard but Ant Man and Thor, It'll be interesting to see how that handle it. They better have some damn good money set aside for those advertising campaigns.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Liman on June 14, 2008, 01:54:15 pm
I never understood why people complained about the CG in "HULK". Yes, it looked silly when he jumped around but that's not poor CG... that's something else. I mean, compare the pictures below:

I personally think the previous film looks better in terms of CG but I haven't seen the new one so I can't be sure.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: pburn on June 14, 2008, 10:33:03 pm
I just saw it, thought it was alright. What I'm really liking about these new Marvel movies is that they're in tune with the Marvel universe. In other words, all the franchises are connected; just like in the comics. The conversation about the super soldier project was cool.

There should have been more Lonely Man theme... Am I the only one who noticed Tim Blake Nelson's transformation into THE LEADER in this movie? I was really surprised by that; can't wait.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on June 15, 2008, 04:41:19 am
I really don't want to see this movie in theatresmbecause I find it incredibly fucking annoying that they made the first movie so horrible and now they're just saying SORRY....SORRY.. and expecting me to pay 12 bucks to see what they shouldn't have fucked up so badly in the first place.

they're doing the same thing with the awful punisher movie
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Ryan on June 15, 2008, 04:59:15 am
i want to see this! i love ed norton. there is no way this can be as bad as the first hulk film, christ.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: HL on June 15, 2008, 06:13:25 am
Quote from: TREG on June 15, 2008, 04:41:19 am
I really don't want to see this movie in theatresmbecause I find it incredibly fucking annoying that they made the first movie so horrible and now they're just saying SORRY....SORRY.. and expecting me to pay 12 bucks to see what they shouldn't have fucked up so badly in the first place.

they're doing the same thing with the awful punisher movie

Go see it you fuck!!

if you don't like it i will send you 5$ and/or a hot asian whore or something. this is easily worth the money. :(
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: PTizzle on June 15, 2008, 09:00:18 am
Quote from: TREG on June 15, 2008, 04:41:19 am
I really don't want to see this movie in theatresmbecause I find it incredibly fucking annoying that they made the first movie so horrible and now they're just saying SORRY....SORRY.. and expecting me to pay 12 bucks to see what they shouldn't have fucked up so badly in the first place.

they're doing the same thing with the awful punisher movie


You should seriously see it in theatres, it'll lose a lot of impact otherwise.

Lexi Alexander is directing the new Punisher as well so I'm guessing both these movies are gonna make up for the past.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Cheesy Doritos on June 15, 2008, 10:58:01 pm
Man Marvel didn't make the first one, that's why they're making this one! Don't blame that piece of shit on them.

Anyways, I liked the action scenes and the exposition, and Edward Norton is one of my favorite actors (although he's not in a lot of movies apparently), but... I can't help but think this movie could've been more. It was kind of boring when he wasn't Hulk-smashing everything. I mean, it wasn't BAD by any means, you guys should see it if you haven't, but I guess just don't hold it to the same standards as you hold the new Batman series or Iron Man!
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: ATARI on June 15, 2008, 11:00:35 pm
i really don't understand how this can be any good because the trailers I've seen for it have made it look absolutely terrible.  I'm not planning on going to theaters until The Dark Knight comes out anyway though, so I'll just pass this one by for a while
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: HL on June 15, 2008, 11:18:32 pm
Quote from: ATARI on June 15, 2008, 11:00:35 pm
i really don't understand how this can be any good because the trailers I've seen for it have made it look absolutely terrible.  I'm not planning on going to theaters until The Dark Knight comes out anyway though, so I'll just pass this one by for a while

dont do this.

iron man trailers made it look pretty shit too and weall saw how that turned out...
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: ATARI on June 15, 2008, 11:31:44 pm
two superhero movies being good in one year??? impossible
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: HL on June 15, 2008, 11:47:30 pm
Quote from: ATARI on June 15, 2008, 11:31:44 pm
two superhero movies being good in one year??? impossible

i...i know.

atari its worth it i swear :(

i...i would nott rick you...atari-chan
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: pburn on June 16, 2008, 03:50:00 am
Man, I honestly kinda wish Edward Norton's wishes for the final cut were fulfilled. A lot of shit got cut out and I really wanted a package that was more similar to the tv series. Too bad the commercialized version won out. :(
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Mongoloid on June 16, 2008, 05:35:36 am
Quote from: ATARI on June 15, 2008, 11:31:44 pm
two superhero movies being good in one year??? impossible

this is because aside from the dark night, there are no superhero movies coming out for the next two years.





i saw this tonight, and it's no iron man, but marvel is definitely on a hot streak. i knew going in it wasn't related to the other hulk movie, but it still took me like 15 minutes to focus and take in the new origin that's given to you at the beginning. the origins from the two movies really are very different.



ps. how do you guys not understand TRAILER =/= MOVIE
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Randy Moist on June 16, 2008, 07:09:30 am
Quote from: Eric on June 16, 2008, 05:35:36 am
ps. how do you guys not understand TRAILER =/= MOVIE
Well, yea the trailer doesn't always equal the movie, while other times trailers can even go the wrong direction and spoil the movie too much. But I think for the most part trailers are indicative of what the movie is going to be about and what kind of demographic it was aimed at (there are misses though for sure). Movies aren't cheap and I have options so if the trailer turns me off it'll take a pretty positive review from someone I trust to convince me to go.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: DS on June 17, 2008, 11:31:41 am
Quote from: handsome lamb on June 15, 2008, 11:18:32 pm
dont do this.

iron man trailers made it look pretty shit too and weall saw how that turned out...
Honestly though, Iron Man trailers were a lot better than Hulk ones. This movie looks absolute shit based on the trailers and I am seriously really skeptical about the movie. I liked the first Hulk movie, it wasn't great but entertaining enough and one of the better Marvel movies. The new one looks way worse but since you guys are saying it's good, maybe I'll go see it.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Lars on June 21, 2008, 10:19:00 am
i remember watching the OTHER hulk movie and it was so fucking boring and lame i had to turn it off.

im prolly gonna see this at my friends place sooner or later so expecting great things ptizzle otherwise YOU're the one to blame!!
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Farren on June 23, 2008, 08:37:01 am
You guys need to seriously see this fucking movie.

Norton does a great job acting as Bruce Banner and Liv Tyler is so fucking hot. They work on the relationship between Bruce and Betty alot but it isn't too overwhelming so its not all LOVE STORY WAAHHH MY BOYFRIEND IS A MONSTER!

And Roth the British Socom recruit or whatever is such a fucking badass. Like, he's the best supervillain I've seen in any of these movies for awhile.

The movie starts out sort of slow but it builds up and I am telling you EVERY fight scene in this film is incredible

There are also a few funny parts like when and

There are also a few cool parts where Liv plays out of her normal character, punches a soldier in the face and starts screaming and cussing out some taxi driver

If anyone felt sort of disappointed with the last Iron Man fight like I did then you WILL NOT BE with this movie it is seriously one of the coolest superhero showdowns I've seen.

Also there are a few cameo's in this one with

This film is fantastic and it is on par with Iron man in my opinion. They did a great job with the hulk and he looks great, you can see alot of character in him with the facial expressions and stuff he makes. And even when he speaks he sounds more like a gigantic beast than as stupid and dopey as I thought he did in the other movie.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Cheesy Doritos on June 23, 2008, 04:48:26 pm
I'd disagree. Iron Man was witty, funny, and I actually cared about Tony Stark's character. The Hulk was... Just an action flick, I'd say. It was cool, yeah, and Ed Norton brought it up, but it was just Hulk gets mad --> calms down --> something happens --> Hulk gets mad. Maybe my bias against the Hulk is stopping me from loving this movie, but I honestly did not think it was on par with Iron Man.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on June 23, 2008, 08:38:37 pm
Quote from: Wil on June 13, 2008, 09:18:10 am
Does Liv Tyler ruin this film, or does she play her usual role as the crying woman with puffy red eyes who stares off into the sky?

not at all :)

Amazing movie and a huge improvement. It was better than spiderman 3(by far), Xmen 3, and dare I say.....Iron Man?! Yes, I said it. Great movie Marvel keep it up!!! :D
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Farren on June 23, 2008, 09:00:48 pm
I know what you mean about Iron man but I disagree with it just being an action flick

I loved watching the cartoon on TV as a kid and Banner's struggle to survive/try to cure himself/and not DESTROY EVERYTHING OUT OF RAGE is just so infatuating to me. I also like that he's not a normal superhero thats just CONSTANTLY compelled to save the world for no fucking reason. He's just a regular dude that turns into some unstoppable beast that can't control itself. And he just ends up killing bad guys because he's forced to.

Tony Stark's character was really charming and witty, yeah. But I thought Banner's was alot more interesting.

Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: pburn on June 23, 2008, 09:01:38 pm
Quote from: Harry Manback on June 23, 2008, 09:00:48 pm
I know what you mean about Iron man but I disagree with it just being an action flick

I loved watching the cartoon on TV as a kid and Banner's struggle to survive/try to cure himself/and not DESTROY EVERYTHING OUT OF RAGE is just so infatuating to me. I also like that he's not a normal superhero thats just CONSTANTLY compelled to save the world for no fucking reason. He's just a regular dude that turns into some unstoppable beast that can't control itself. And he just ends up killing bad guys because he's forced to.

Tony Stark's character was really charming and witty, yeah. But I thought Banner's was very interesting and had more depth to it.


Yeah, but contrary to Edward Norton's will, 50 minutes of drama was cut out.

:(

"There are aspects of my personality I can't control" isn't in the movie!
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Xeno|Soft on June 23, 2008, 09:27:13 pm
Quote from: Harry Manback on June 23, 2008, 09:00:48 pm
I know what you mean about Iron man but I disagree with it just being an action flick

I loved watching the cartoon on TV as a kid and Banner's struggle to survive/try to cure himself/and not DESTROY EVERYTHING OUT OF RAGE is just so infatuating to me. I also like that he's not a normal superhero thats just CONSTANTLY compelled to save the world for no fucking reason. He's just a regular dude that turns into some unstoppable beast that can't control itself. And he just ends up killing bad guys because he's forced to.

Tony Stark's character was really charming and witty, yeah. But I thought Banner's was alot more interesting.




Just out of curiosity, who are these hero's that you are referring to that save the world for no reason?
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Farren on June 24, 2008, 01:55:08 am
Superman and Spiderman mostly

Even Batman too though.

And maybe saying "for no reason" wasn't right but I think they're more compelled to do it, when the Hulk just so happens to do it while he's crushing shit.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Cheesy Doritos on June 24, 2008, 02:26:00 am
I think it's more realistic to fight crime in Batman's ideals, since he had devoted literally his entire life to it. Superman, eh... Spiderman does have some motivation, but honestly if I just got super powers right now I would feel compelled, personal tragedy or not, to fly off to the nearest city and be a big hero, anyway. The way I see it, it's strange that the Hulk just so happens to fight the bad guys, seeing as he can't control himself at all.
Title: The Incredible Hulk
Post by: Ragnar on June 24, 2008, 05:16:58 am
I'm surprised this movie can possibly be good after seeing the trailers, but if you guys say so