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General Category => General Talk => Introductions => Topic started by: The Great Terror on July 06, 2008, 07:25:20 pm
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I heard this was a community full of hoopy froods, so after lurking for a bit anonymously I decided to join.
I'm just a simple Northeasterner. A white collar guy with his own apartment two cats and significant other. I write semi regularly in my free time and read voraciously, though right now I'm bogged down in shop reading. I generally enjoy classic works and well written modern stuff, particularly magical realism. I have fallen in love with Gabriel Garcia Marquez of late and am currently working through, Of Love and Other Demons. Other authors I enjoy are Fyodor Doestoevsky, Salman Rushdie, Willa Cather, August Wilson, Toni Morrison, Alice Walker, George Eliot, Anthony Trollope, and Douglas Adams.
I love to talk about movies, books, politics, and video games. Politically, I'm a moderate libertarian. Please don't take this to mean I'm a Ron Paul guy. I'm actually quite centrist. I see the purpose of institutions, but I find Libertarian lifestyle as an ideal to aspire to. In general I hope to enjoy your company as you enjoy mine.
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You realise George Eliot is a chick right? Oho ho ho. Another myth bustedd
obligatory: hay have u herd of irc you should get on irc
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Well I always thought the whole Mary Ann Evans thing was a drag act George did on weekends. An ugly lady Old Horse Face was.
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Cool you sound interesting
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SOPHIST! Hey man, glad to see you here.
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Hey its that jerk that ruined our project forum. Now all the users have to be productive. Look forward to dittoing you relentlessly like a soulless yes man.
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Welcome to GW, The Great Terror! Hey, you like Stalin? I'm a Hitler!
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You're a dipshit
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i hope that was a joke.
jeff it looks like you found a new buddy...
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i hope that was a joke.
jeff it looks like you found a new buddy...
He is from RMXP.org
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I supposrt the gold standard TGT, do you?
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He is from RMXP.org
oh fuck
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welcome new person, All i can add is that i only read one of Elliot's books, Silas marina (i think that's how his name was spelled) and yes i know that George Elliot was a girl.
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He is from RMXP.org
Yes Jeff came over to mod our Projects forum. In exchange we sent you Guardian1239 to spread the gospel. As any gold standard of GW would, he whipped that board into shape by changing the rules of Early Projects and the Recruitment forums gearing them to a much more productive purpose. Before Early Projects was just a dumping ground for shit topics we didn't want in the main forum. Now many users make use of it to develop stronger concept and story materials to make better RPG's. We are better off because of his efforts.
Anyway now that the secret is out I'm a staff member at the .org. Make of that what you will. You can try and guess my handle there if you like.
You're a dipshit
i hope that was a joke.
jeff it looks like you found a new buddy...
I figured my little quip of, "Now all the users have to be productive," would have made the irony of the former statement pretty clear. I think anyone with a brain in their head can tell that Jeff is a nice guy with a decent head on his shoulders, and if they can't, well they aren't worth speaking with are they. I say a lot of things tongue in cheek. I often like to ridicule and satirize what I feel to be retarded by praising it, encouraging it, or advocating it in Pravda-esque prose full of ironic non-logics and batty hand wringing. I'm sure most will get used to it. A lot of the style is majorly influenced by online conservative satirists such as the People's Cube and Paul Kruggman.
I supposrt the gold standard TGT, do you?
If you mean by gold standard you mean Jeff, then yes.
oh fuck
Eloquently put.
welcome new person, All i can add is that i only read one of Elliot's books, Silas marina (i think that's how his name was spelled) and yes i know that George Elliot was a girl.
Silas Marner. My favorite is Middlemarch. It's the masterpiece of the Victorian era. No one comes close.
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I figured my little quip of, "Now all the users have to be productive," would have made the irony of the former statement pretty clear. I think anyone with a brain in their head can tell that Jeff is a nice guy with a decent head on his shoulders, and if they can't, well they aren't worth speaking with are they.
I'm pretty sure he was talking to Pipcaptor Hatsuya, not you or Jeff! Anyway, you made a good post in the MacGuffin topic, so welcome, I guess.
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He is from RMXP.org
oh i was referencing his mild libertarianism
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oh i was referencing his mild libertarianism
Oh well unfortunately its no joke, based on our IRC conversations Jeff and I are likely pretty close politically. I may be a smidge to the left of him, but maybe not.
I'm pretty sure he was talking to Pipcaptor Hatsuya, not you or Jeff! Anyway, you made a good post in the MacGuffin topic, so welcome, I guess.
Well for what its worth I knew the dipshit comment wasn't directed at Jeff. Yeah I'm an English man by degree, so if there is a topic that covers something about writing or lit theory you'll prolly find me.
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Yes you have to fight Hundley now!
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Silas Marner. My favorite is Middlemarch. It's the masterpiece of the Victorian era. No one comes close.
whats Middlemarch about?
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I heard this was a community full of hoopy froods, so after lurking for a bit anonymously I decided to join.
I'm just a simple Northeasterner. A white collar guy with his own apartment two cats and significant other. I write semi regularly in my free time and read voraciously, though right now I'm bogged down in shop reading. I generally enjoy classic works and well written modern stuff, particularly magical realism. I have fallen in love with Gabriel Garcia Marquez of late and am currently working through, Of Love and Other Demons. Other authors I enjoy are Fyodor Doestoevsky, Salman Rushdie, Willa Cather, August Wilson, Toni Morrison, Alice Walker, George Eliot, Anthony Trollope, and Douglas Adams.
I love to talk about movies, books, politics, and video games. Politically, I'm a moderate libertarian. Please don't take this to mean I'm a Ron Paul guy. I'm actually quite centrist. I see the purpose of institutions, but I find Libertarian lifestyle as an ideal to aspire to. In general I hope to enjoy your company as you enjoy mine.
Welcome join in. I am quite new here also.
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You seem like a pretty swell chap; welcome to GW, The Great Terror!
What kinds of video games do you like?
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Hey Sophist, what's up? I remember talking to you and you were like the only decent person in #rmxp.
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I heard this was a community full of hoopy froods, so after lurking for a bit anonymously I decided to join.
I'm just a simple Northeasterner.
Northeast USA? Where?
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whats Middlemarch about?
Middlemarch is a masterpiece that is epic in scale about several families in a the small town that is the book's namesake. What is so brilliant about it is the depth of her character's and relationships. There is maybe a cast of forty some odd characters and none of them are wasted or lack a dimension that leaves them flawed as something credible. Mainly she focuses on a rather modernist theme of how individually we are isolated and unable to understand eachother because of limited and subjective consciousness. How our hopes, prejudices, beliefs, and learned understandings distort our perception of eachother. Through her main character Dorthea, Evans argues that that true selfless compassion is the only way we can see and communicate with another without being blinded by our usual egotistical haze. Its a thousand something pages but very rewarding. If you liked Silas Marner, you may want to check out Eliot's, The Mill on the Floss. The story focuses on the character Maggie Tulliver and follows her as she grows up. Partly it's a coming of age story the other part a story about relationships and regret.
What kinds of video games do you like?
I grew up playing them. My Grandparents had an Atari with the one button joystick. Then my parents bought us an NES when I was maybe eight. RPG's is generally my favorite genre. FFI was what introduced me and got me hooked to them. In general I like good stories which is why RPG's appealed to me. I could spend a half hour with Mario if I was bored a good RPG was like tackling a book. I also like strategy games, generally stuff that you have to think about from move to move. Some favorites were all of the Bioware infinity engine games (Baldur's Gate, BGSOA, BGTOB ect.) as well as KOTOR I + II. I don't think anyone gives Bioware's writing staff a run for their money even. Early favorites growing up were FFIV and VI, Xenogears, Secret of Mana, PTO II, Steel Panthers, PanzerGeneral, Civ II, and Sim City.
Hey Sophist, what's up? I remember talking to you and you were like the only decent person in #rmxp.
Don't tell Teloch you said that she was there, too.
Northeast USA? Where?
Taxachusetts.
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Taxachusetts.
i can feel the libertarian rage... boiling.. swelling..
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hey does anyone feel like they have read this exact topic like months ago? like WORD FOR WORD/REPLY FOR REPLY the exact same fucking topic
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i can feel the libertarian rage... boiling.. swelling..
I mutter Adam Smith's wealth of nation's uncontrollably when I'm angry.
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You like García Marquez? No wonder you suck. :fogetcool:
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What's up, bud? Welcome to the community
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You like García Marquez? No wonder you suck. :fogetcool:
MY COLOR IS GREY TOO
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You like García Marquez? No wonder you suck. :fogetcool:
I know and to think they gave him a Nobel prize when there is so much more worthy manga around.
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I know and to think they gave him a Nobel prize when there is so much more worthy manga around.
Uhh... You just don't get it, do you?
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No, I don't. Why don't you explain why you feel compelled to troll this thread. Is it because I disagreed with you on the youtube one? Seems rather petty to me.
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Lord Kamina
Website: http://www.misrpg.cl/
News: =^^= .oO (Suitcase with clothes! Soft purrr... hop!)
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Soft purr... hop!
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Taxachusetts.
hey what city?
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hey ase i have a friend from shrewsbury do you know where that is?
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hey ase i have a friend from shrewsbury do you know where that is?
kind of. It's like 50 min away.
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Lord Kamina
Website: http://www.misrpg.cl/
News: =^^= .oO (Suitcase with clothes! Soft purrr... hop!)
Congratulations on visiting the site I shared with a group of people I no longer talk to and the "cat" that one of them took the periodical job to change when he was bored at work.
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Soft purrr... hop!
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You know Koji you seem a bit retarded here what's up??
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I'm near Taunton and that's all I'll leave you to go on. Otherwise The Man will find me, and bring me down again.
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I'm near Taunton and that's all I'll leave you to go on. Otherwise The Man will find me, and bring me down again.
holy shit man me too. I'm from Seekonk btw (not afraid to say this because i've probably already said this a hundred times on the forums + i'll be posting a mainpage article about my area soon so)
pm me if you dont want to let everyone know. I'm really curious!
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Oh what the hell, Bridgewater.
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awesome!! One of my roommates lives in East Bridgewater.
welcome to GW btw
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You know Koji you seem a bit retarded here what's up??
He's always been like this!!! :fogetbackflip: :fogetbackflip: :fogetbackflip:
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I'm from Seekonk
One of my roommates lives in East Bridgewater.
That's a big room you guys have.
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You know Koji you seem a bit retarded here what's up??
I wasn't really trying to troll as much as saying Marquez sucks but the reply I got was just so dissapointing...
In fact I was gonna stop posting in this thread before TREG posted quotes from another guy in a site that's been abandoned for six months now.
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I was gonna stop posting
ugh
yall are scrubs peace
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whoa lord kamina is koji?
there's always a surprise or two in store for me
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What you actually didn't know?
I was pretty much sure every one knew.
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Oh what the hell, Bridgewater.
oh man this is too weird. what street? whats your address?
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Would you like my social security number? Perhaps my pin?
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I would.
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Would you like my social security number? Perhaps my pin?
Credit card number would come in handy.
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I'll take pictures of your parents if you're handing things out.
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if you are a libertarian i bet you will stop liking garcia marquez because he is a borderline communist who is best pal of fidel castro.
anyuway welcome and garcia marquez does rock-
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Stay here so we can watch you grow out of libertarianism by the time you're 18. Welcome to our forums! *cumw into jeffs moth*
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if you are a libertarian i bet you will stop liking garcia marquez because he is a borderline communist who is best pal of fidel castro.
anyuway welcome and garcia marquez does rock-
Aye Dios mio! And I thought they forced him to work for all those socialist rags! Me and my fellow Objectivists must meditate on this revelation.
I'm an art transcends politics kind of guy. Only shallow partisans dismiss art solely on little labels and petty associations.
Stay here so we can watch you grow out of libertarianism by the time you're 18. Welcome to our forums! *cumw into jeffs moth*
You guys have a time machine? Or a fountain of youth? I already grew out of the Suburban, white, Che worshipping, "all my problems and misguided anger is the system's fault," Liberal sub"culture" at about that age. But I'm glad you attributed what little you know of my political beliefs to youthful naivety and lack of life experience.
Just to clarify I am not one of those "lol give me ma drugzertarians." Nor am I one to be like, "I'm sick of paying taxes to keep up all these roads and sewers." I actually find those things (roads and sewers) to be pretty cool. Like I said moderate. I understand the practicality and necessity of government in the current world we live in. In a perfect world it would be a Libertarian political arrangement. But that would mean that the greater majority of people would be well prepared for it with the individual tools necessary for success and reasonable stability within the system. That isn't today or the immediate future or perhaps even the far future. Ideals aren't ways of life they are things to work toward. Life is always about that compromise, at least in my experience.
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sorry but round here, any libertarian and all are paulsies.
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paulsies
Nope Ron Paul is a loon who likes to hang out with survivalists, who write incessantly about the coming race war and other such nonsense. I much prefer McCain but that is another thread entirely. I suppose I stick myself under the libertarian label because I'm afraid my social values don't make me fit in with the arch conservatives of the party.
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how do you feel about mccain switching his positions on almost every major issue
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Haha ron paul supports are called PAULSIES, I didn't know that.
Cerebral Paulsies.
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they don't call themselves paulsies. it's a derogatory term used by other people to describe them
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You guys have a time machine? Or a fountain of youth? I already grew out of the Suburban, white, Che worshipping, "all my problems and misguided anger is the system's fault," Liberal sub"culture" at about that age. But I'm glad you attributed what little you know of my political beliefs to youthful naivety and lack of life experience.
Just to clarify I am not one of those "lol give me ma drugzertarians." Nor am I one to be like, "I'm sick of paying taxes to keep up all these roads and sewers." I actually find those things (roads and sewers) to be pretty cool. Like I said moderate. I understand the practicality and necessity of government in the current world we live in. In a perfect world it would be a Libertarian political arrangement. But that would mean that the greater majority of people would be well prepared for it with the individual tools necessary for success and reasonable stability within the system. That isn't today or the immediate future or perhaps even the far future. Ideals aren't ways of life they are things to work toward. Life is always about that compromise, at least in my experience.
13: communist, extremist
15: lolbertarian "It Just Means Your Moderate"
18+: liberal
If you're suburban it means you've got a few extra years (suburbanism retards growth in all mental/social development), but if you take too long you could be stuck in that track forever
Wait are you seriously an objectivist, Ayn Rand style? I was planning on just being a condescending asshole (heh why don't you bootstrap your way up), but this could actually be an interesting debate if anyone would feel like taking the opposing side again. But if you don't want to debate, I guess my only advice is to not mention libertarainism and objectivism, because it tends to make people wanna beat it out of you.
libertarainism is a horrible extreme btw, stop saying you're moderate because you can't be both.
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they don't call themselves paulsies. it's a derogatory term used by other people to describe them
That is a shame.
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hey does anyone feel like they have read this exact topic like months ago? like WORD FOR WORD/REPLY FOR REPLY the exact same fucking topic
i thought this too
ye welcome k
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but if you take too long you could be stuck in that track forever
I could be a liberal forever! That would be terrible. But its good to know you think your growth stopped at eighteen. I thought the same thing when I was twenty. It's cute.
I was planning on just being a condescending asshole
I didn't notice that. It's probably cause it comes so naturally for you.
What I find ironic is how like a teenaged highschooler you have judged me based on the clique I seem to fit into and not by any substance I have presented therewith in my words or behavior, and so have gone on to shower me with masturbatory flame-light condescension. But I'm sure this behavior comes from deep seeded altruism and not some insecure egotistical need to be dittoed and cockstroked by the peers in your clique.
but this could actually be an interesting debate if anyone would feel like taking the opposing side again. But if you don't want to debate, I guess my only advice is to not mention libertarainism and objectivism, because it tends to make people wanna beat it out of you.
Considering my first impression of you, you seem to be an intolerant little fag who would much prefer a circle jerk, so I have my doubts on debating you. You'll see me around on the issues, but I'm not interested in navel gazing with you at the moment. I don't have much to go on, so I withhold further judgment on the matter and say possibly a rain check in the future when I am more sure that you are not a faggot.
libertarainism is a horrible extreme btw, stop saying you're moderate because you can't be both.
Thank god I lean toward Libertarianism then. Really the way I designate myself comes from the imperfection of American political labels where liberal means a wider range of social freedoms coupled with a psuedo socialist welfare economic agenda, and Conservative means a free market economic agenda with an authoritarian stance on a whole bunch of social issues. I'm a free marketer with a stay out of the bedroom attitude on social issues and government. Traditional bedrock of Libertarianism. But unlike the Libertarians I don't want an end to the federal and state systems of government or any of that nonsense that comes from the far right Ruby Ridge tax evading Libertarians. Hence I add moderate as a modifying adjective. You do understand that moderate can be used as an adjective, right? I prolly fit best as a McCain Republican, or an American centrist. Your average swing voter most likely.
how do you feel about mccain switching his positions on almost every major issue
At least he didn't tell the people he would take public funding for the POTUS race and then turn around and renege on it. I would have a bit more respect on the matter if Barak had at least been honest and said that it was because he could potentially raise more money. Instead they spun it as a protest against the broken public financing system in dire need of reform. Please. But I challenge you to be more specific on your claim. On another thread perhaps?
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huh. well I guess you could call that a success
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You are awesome. Welcome to GW.
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welcome to gw
the place you wouldnt expect to find a 26 year old masquerading as a cliche 16 year old who has a dictionary
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but i just did
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objectivism is pretty bad. like, if you want to be an egotistical fuck there are better writers out there, like max stirner or nietzche. ayn rand was a terrible human being and her books are both terribly written (thats why nobody outside the us reads them) and terribly philosophically and she was mad with the whole left because the bolshies seized her pharmacies boohoohoo.
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objectivism is pretty bad. like, if you want to be an egotistical fuck there are better writers out there, like max stirner or nietzche. ayn rand was a terrible human being and her books are both terribly written (thats why nobody outside the us reads them) and terribly philosophically and she was mad with the whole left because the bolshies seized her pharmacies boohoohoo.
Usually when I see someone reference something in a sentence that is meant to be sarcastic and ironic I take it with a grain of salt. I am not an Objectivist. Ayn Rand's only book that is close to decent is We The Living. The rest is preachy and unreadable. Ironically We the Living is disliked by Objectivists for reasons that sort of escape me, prolly cause it has a soul and moral ambiguity. Otherwise I find you're oversimplifying why she left. The Bolshies ruined Russia's economy, butchered thousands during the revolution and incarcerated thousands more. The reasons for leaving such a place are legion for those capable. What's your opinion on Solzhenitsyn? I mean the Soviets did give him a free room to stay in, right? He should stop whining.
Nietzsche has a good spirit on how we should challenge ourselves as individuals to be great and enlightened. But I can't palette his conception of being extraordinary giving you the right to be above morality for a vague higher morality that you get to make up. I defer to Dostoevsky who argues that there are immutable basic ethics and morals, and that the breaking of them isolates, lessens, and potentially destroys the individual life and freedom.
I did enjoy the egotistical fuck comment. Yeah I know selfishness serving the common good. Invisible hand. Yada yada yada. I'm in the camp that there may be no such thing as true altruism. I wouldn't therefore turn to say that being as egotistical as possible is a good thing for everyone. We'd be better off if we were more self aware on such.
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At least he didn't tell the people he would take public funding for the POTUS race and then turn around and renege on it. I would have a bit more respect on the matter if Barak had at least been honest and said that it was because he could potentially raise more money. Instead they spun it as a protest against the broken public financing system in dire need of reform. Please. But I challenge you to be more specific on your claim. On another thread perhaps?
while i agree that this was a pretty large backpeddle on obama's part, come on! he clarified his position a few months before it even happened and said he would agree to take public financing if him and mccain sat down and etched out a deal regarding the 527s and swiftboating shit. how is that any worse than say mccain, who during his 2000 run called jerry falwell an agent of intolerance and in '08 gave the commencement address at liberty? or his complete reversal of his opinion on offshore drilling? or his complete reversal on torture and habeus corpus?
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objectivism is pretty bad. like, if you want to be an egotistical fuck there are better writers out there, like max stirner or nietzche. ayn rand was a terrible human being and her books are both terribly written (thats why nobody outside the us reads them) and terribly philosophically and she was mad with the whole left because the bolshies seized her pharmacies boohoohoo.
I dunno man, nietzsche is pretty terrible unless you ignore thus spoke zarathustra. I couldn't finish it (I think I even got farther with Atlas Shrugged) but what I read was really really bad.
getting off topic. to the great terror: I didn't mean I was going to debate you, I was just saying someone else could. and the joke was that I'm being condescending and callous to give the impression of fighting your way up libertarian style (ie "bootstrapping"), but I guess that didn't go over too well. or it would have, if my goal had been to troll you into saying something incriminating, but that seriously was not my intention at the time
edit: haha, I started to wonder about my use of the word INCRIMINATING and I realized this is actually a pretty hilarious representation of the problem here, as a reversal of the "self-built man" image. born in the bronx... scraping together pennies for education, only to wind up in prison.........
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heh i bet panda would debate him. (he will debate anyone. at any time. or any place.)
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wasn't that steel a couple months ago (((( GET WELL SOON STEEP.;L
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f...formal debate....please....
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man someone just delete that fucking wiki already
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while i agree that this was a pretty large backpeddle on obama's part, come on! he clarified his position a few months before it even happened and said he would agree to take public financing if him and mccain sat down and etched out a deal regarding the 527s and swiftboating shit.
There is a ninety million dollar reason why Obama chose to opt out, and it was the potential to raise ninety million more than he could under public financing rules.
Second 527's is a non issue. The FEC after '04 clarified once and for all that it is illegal for 527's to advocate for or against a candidate. They were meant to be issue lobbies and that is what they have been, since. Also I urge you not to live in a parallel universe where the only 527 smearing candidate's in '04 was Swiftboaters for truth. Moveon.org, America Votes, and America Coming Together did their fair share of smearing as well as an all too eager National news anchor with a pile of fake documents. The politics of smear and dirty laundry are universal and frankly nothing new. Andrew Jackson's opponents smeared that his wife was a bigamist and whore and that his mother was a prostitute. If anything smear could be considered less vicious than it used to be. Kerry had bigger problems than Swift Boats. He couldn't answer why he voted against Iraq War I and for Iraq War II, during the debate he merely dittoed the president on the strategy for Iraq, but added he would do it better with no explanation as to what that means or how, and said that he would only take defensive action if it passed the global test. He was manhandled by himself.
how is that any worse than say mccain, who during his 2000 run called jerry falwell an agent of intolerance and in '08 gave the commencement address at liberty? or his complete reversal of his opinion on offshore drilling? or his complete reversal on torture and habeus corpus?
Jerry Falwell. One who cares. Two who cares. Three who cares. He's on the margins and becoming of lesser importance by the day, and second he said that personal remark eight years ago. People are allowed to change their minds on people. For example I have changed my mind on Rendpppppr. But really in the grand scheme of things it means little about anything. Its just a photo op and attempt to heal ties with the Christian Right of the party. It wasn't like he was a pro-choice atheist suddenly finding Christianity and a respect for unborn children. Personally I'm pro choice but there are bigger more important things than Roe V. Wade and Gay marriage.
Okay number two. There is no complete reversal on offshore drilling. He was asked at a townhall meeting if he would be willing to revisit (think once more) his stance on ANWAR and he said yes. That's a big nothing. His voting record on the matter speaks for itself.
The final one. The bill was DOA anyway. George said he was going to veto, and he did. Perhaps it was some security for the General Election, or perhaps he traded his show of Republican solidarity for support on something else. Who can know. At least he has a record. Obama can't claim much of the same. Though interestingly enough with the Primary in hand Obama changed his position on FISA and voted for the changes the POTUS sought. I'm sure that leaves you warm and fuzzy inside.
Also I heard an interesting tidbit on NPR while I was on my way to walmart to purchase some vise grips. Fresh Air had some longtime Obama supporter from the Illinois State senate days. He regailed us listeners with the interesting tale of how he won his first election. To summarize Barak had his aids challenge his opponents' nomination petitions (including a longtime democrat that held the seat but that's a longer story) and had them kicked off the ballot. He ran thusly unopposed by using the same tactic the state's political machine uses to keep people off the ballots and control the seats. That's the politics of change and virtue for you.
But frankly we can trade these barbs of political gossip and snipe away childishly over details that are often inane. Personally I look for reason to be for a candidate, not against.
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you should probably be looking for both dogg
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Bah. He's alluding to the general mud-slinging bullshit that basically occupies the media's time.
Anyways TGT, you sound like a pretty educated guy. This might sound like an odd question to ask, so please forgive me. But where do you go for your news/citation? I'm just getting into politics, so I'm looking for a relatively safe place to start reading up on current events.
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haha. wow, dude. for you to call 527s a non issue is really truly laughable! granted you are a libertarian but damn.
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Bah. He's alluding to the general mud-slinging bullshit that basically occupies the media's time.
Anyways TGT, you sound like a pretty educated guy. This might sound like an odd question to ask, so please forgive me. But where do you go for your news/citation? I'm just getting into politics, so I'm looking for a relatively safe place to start reading up on current events.
try politico to start out. it has both liberal and conservative bloggers and pages so it's probably the best place for someone just getting into the....great game..
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Bah. He's alluding to the general mud-slinging bullshit that basically occupies the media's time.
Anyways TGT, you sound like a pretty educated guy. This might sound like an odd question to ask, so please forgive me. But where do you go for your news/citation? I'm just getting into politics, so I'm looking for a relatively safe place to start reading up on current events.
It depends what you want. Hard relatively unadulterated news I often take straight from the AP, AFP, Reuters wires, usually through Yahoo. For larger feature articles I've often found the CS Monitor and the Washington Post have done some great work. The CS Monitor particularly delivers such thoughtful articles on a very consistent basis. But again it depends what you're looking for. Washington Post is a good source for stuff on Capitol Hill and National elections and CS Monitor is much better for what's going on around the world and the social consequences of various policies. For opinion stuff I like the National Review and The New Republic. Their basically the opinion journals for the American right and left respectively.
Anything is safe as long as you understand what it is and know how to sift for hype and take away what may or may not be valid. When talking heads or articles mention data I myself can look at such as polls and such I always take a look at them and form my own opinion about the numbers.
Blogs are eh. A whole bunch are kept by activists who think they're fighting Satan in the aisle across. Most of them are reactionary to shit posted on other blogs or crap that gets their goat in the news. There are some good ones out there but they're like that saying about opinions and assholes. Everyone has one and most don't smell nice. What's always served me well was never assuming cartoony malevolent machinations on the other side of the aisle, always following up on referenced material on things that interest me, and as corny as it sounds trying to see it from the other sides perspective (hence the fact that I read The New Republic).