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Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: local_dunce on July 24, 2008, 08:44:42 pm
I don't talk about them much but I have a lot of STRONG OPINIONS about shit. I just never voice them because I don't want to be that obnoxious, arrogant guy who ambles around telling other people about his opinions on how to be a better person and making other people feel guilty for DRIVING A CAR or EATING MEAT or something.

Anyway I am not a vegetarian because I really really love meat and I really really dislike a lot of vegetables. To the point where I cannot actually put things like Tomatoes/Cucumber/Courgettes in my mouth without freaking out and feeling like I'm going to be sick. I've always put it off with lame excuses like "I would be vegetarian, but they're gonna slaughter and kill the animals anyway so I may as well not put the meat to waste!" This isn't really acceptable for me anymore.

But due to some recent events I would like to make the effort to at least take some steps towards Vegetarianism. This is mainly from my trip to the farm and actually seeing how poorly these animals can be treated, but also because it's something I've always believed in but have never really had the willpower to do.

STEP 1: Was cutting out red meats, this was easy. I'm down to chicken and fish and I could probably live with this quite comfortably, but I don't want to eat just chicken and fish every day for the rest of my life. I need some OTHER MEALS that don't involve Tomatoes/Cucumber/Courgettes. I know some of you guys are avid HEALTH COOKERS so what kind of meals can you suggest to me that taste good and will help me make this transfer from meat lover to vegetarian quite painlessly? (that don't involve tomatoes/cucumbers/courgettes!)

Also I want to ask if anybody knows about any reason why being a vegetarian might be a bad idea healthwise. I know a lot of people do it but is there any PROTEINS/VITAMINS/MINERALS I am gonna be missing out on that could cause health problems later in life? I am pretty dumb when it comes to shit like this so knowing about it would be helpful.

Thanks guys, Point me to your WEBSITES and RECIPES.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: jamie on July 24, 2008, 08:55:20 pm
you could get meat substitutes, that's what i do. quorn stuff. it's all right and really easy to cook. i mean, real meat can potentially be better but most of it isn't any better than quorn so if you dunno how you are gonna create new eating habits without meat just use fake burgers etc to fill in the blanks. the texture is exactly the same as meat, even the fake chicken and stuff, but it does taste kind of fakey. i mean, i like quorn just fine. i'd probably eat some of it even if i wasn't vegetarian but if you're a big freakazoid about tomatoes and cucumbers then who knows how you'll react to this stuff.

also, chickpeas are apparently a versatile thing you can buy as a substitute for meat in things like curries and there are also a whole bunch of things you can make with them too. there was a chickpeas gw chef topic a while ago, i'm gonna go find it actually cos i bought chickpeas a couple of days ago.

it's pretty weird how food suddenly becomes a topic of discussion when you decide to exclude some of it from your diet. i never thought about food at all until this whole vegetarian business and i am afraid that i am being frightfully boring by talking about it. i make sure not to use words like GORGEOUS or BEAUTIFUL when describing food though cos man do i hate those people.

i've got no recipes i'm still fairly new at this. i'll probably pick things up as things go on, but i've just kind of been experimenting with stuff and seeing what i like. i made a kidney bean curry last week and put it in garlic pitta bread it was the best thing i ever made at least and i was just making it up as i went along.

i think that's kind of fun, the experimenting with food you never would have tried before and mixing stuff together you wouldn't have thought to.

vegetarianism...it's a god damned adventure.



Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: maladroithim on July 24, 2008, 09:12:37 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylthiocarbamide

This is probably why you hate cucumbers!

I am on the fringes of becoming a vegetarian too so I am very interested in this topic.  I am a big fan of Tofurkey products so if you REALLY LOVE POULTRY SAUSAGES I guess that is a good substitute.  Black bean burgers are amazing as well.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: big ass skelly on July 24, 2008, 10:09:00 pm
Just eat a dick like you usually do, I'M SORRY that's all I wanted to post.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on July 24, 2008, 10:29:15 pm
Hey, I actually read a really cool related article in... either Science Daily or NYT recently. I'll go get it one sec!

Ok, this isn't it but I thought it was cool too and serves as a primer for my actual article I'm still looking for: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080723094838.htm

Holy shit, I apparently read a lot more articles than I thought because this was way back, but here it is: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080716205208.htm

So maybe you can learn to start liking veggies more too with your newly acquired disposition towards meat. :P
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: local_dunce on July 24, 2008, 11:03:26 pm
Quote from: Catslacks on July 24, 2008, 10:29:15 pm
Hey, I actually read a really cool related article in... either Science Daily or NYT recently. I'll go get it one sec!

Ok, this isn't it but I thought it was cool too and serves as a primer for my actual article I'm still looking for: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080723094838.htm

Holy shit, I apparently read a lot more articles than I thought because this was way back, but here it is: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080716205208.htm

So maybe you can learn to start liking veggies more too with your newly acquired disposition towards meat. :P

Yeah it makes a lot of sense but I don't think I am all of a sudden going to start liking things that I disliked before, and disliking meat because I've decided to take these steps.

Anyway I just had a rocking SWEETCORN PASTA. I am feeling good about myself.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on July 24, 2008, 11:44:05 pm
Quote from: Jet Son on July 24, 2008, 11:03:26 pm
Yeah it makes a lot of sense but I don't think I am all of a sudden going to start liking things that I disliked before, and disliking meat because I've decided to take these steps.

Anyway I just had a rocking SWEETCORN PASTA. I am feeling good about myself.

Oh, I didn't mean it like YOU WILL INSTANTLY HATE MEAT AND LOVE VEGETABLESSS!!!!!!11. But as your views about vegetables and meat change so may your tastes, and if you start eating vegetables more you may become more accustomed to the flavours as well as the depth of tastes (similar to how a person may be able to appreciate subtle flavours in cheese, wine, chocolate, whatever, that some of us are oblivious to).
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Doktormartini on July 25, 2008, 03:34:29 pm
I am probably the only vegan here that actual posts frequently.  You said you don't like vegetables but which ones have you tried and how have you tried them?  I was the same way as you.  When I was a meat eater the only vegetables I ever ate was cucumbers, tomatoes (only in ketchup/marinara), broccoli, and corn.  Now I eat so much shit.  When I went vegan my food choices expanded greatly as I began trying new things I never tried before or even ever heard of.

Being vegetarian is not bad healthwise.  Even being vegan you can get every thing you need.  People ask you stupid questions like, "omg where do you get protein!?" when protein is in pretty much everything (minus fruits).  There is a good book called The New Becoming Vegetarian (http://cgi.ebay.com/The-New-Becoming-Vegetarian-Brenda-Davis-Vesanto-Melina_W0QQitemZ260256456260QQcmdZViewItem?IMSfp=TL0806281561r28676) that goes over all vitamins/minerals/other health stuff with vegetarians.  I have the Becoming Vegan book and it is great.  It tells you about all the vitamins and minerals and what are good veggie sources for them.  Basically dont' overdue the dairy because it's not really good for you if you eat a lot of it.  Lots of vegetarians make dairy their main source of food and they miss out on things like iron (that is why lots of veggie chicks are anemic) and other stuff.  Basically just eat a variety of foods from the food groups.

Also you are doing it for moral reasons?  Have you looked into the egg and dairy industries?
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: goldenratio on July 25, 2008, 04:52:10 pm
You should really make an attempt to like vegetables. Today for lunch I have (all raw): carrots, snow peas, mushrooms, celery, and broccoli. That's the main part of my lunch, every day. I also have a half sandwich (turkey and muenster on whole grain bread), a banana and a plum. It cost like 3 dollars and is fucking delicious! Plus, it's a lot of food so I can eat it all day and never be hungry. Carrots are a big deal imo, you should really get those and like them. They are nice and sweet, and chew up good so you feel like you're eating something. Don't get baby carrots, they just grind down normal carrots and it's such a waste and you lose out on all sorts of nutrients.

I'm not adverse to eating meat though it's just so important to get a good amount of vegetables in every day.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Fire Mage on July 25, 2008, 06:12:43 pm
Yeah I've had feelings about vegetarianism but the shit thing is that my taste buds like REVOLT a shitload of vegetables.

I hate string beans, mushrooms, tomatoes, celery, onions, avocado, beets, bell pepper, cucumber, asparagus, and sweet peppers...and a bunch of other stuff. I've honestly tried them all and my taste buds either sort them as disgusting or tasteless/bitter.

However, I love potatoes, sweet potatoes, broccoli (but I need cheese haha), peas (but I need butter), lettuce, rice, beans, and corn.


So I'm in bad luck :(
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Bart on July 25, 2008, 06:21:21 pm
can't really contribute at the moment to the rest of the thread but here is my delicious bookmarked recipes .. some are healthy, some are HORRIBLY BAD FOR YOU but maybe they will help you out a bit

http://del.icio.us/truebosko/recipes

edit: vegeterian? nevermind that
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: chanicakes on July 25, 2008, 06:28:02 pm
A food item you may want to try is vegitarian lasagne, you can use different vegtable puree's with spices to kick out that tomato sauce but you get to use spinach which is similar in vitamin and mineral content to red meat. And you get to add different vegtables that can have meaty flavors it really is something that you can play around with for different flavors.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: dada on July 25, 2008, 06:32:19 pm
I never really saw a good reason to become a vegetarian. Although I disagree with the cruel treatment of animals, it really just doesn't resonate very strongly with me that I can be part of the change by simply changing diet. And I'm a very big fan of cooking and eating good food, too; I don't want to limit myself. I want to be able to make smoked salmon, coq aux vin and pâté en croûte when I want to.

You should be more concerned about eating healthy food. Getting your daily amount of vegetables (200 grams) and fruit (2 pieces) is important. As for the rest: go wild. You're taking what you eat into consideration and that's a very good thing.

EDIT:
Quote from: Bart on July 25, 2008, 06:21:21 pm
http://del.icio.us/truebosko/recipes
Thanks, I'm making cheesecake brownies tomorrow.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: WunderBread on July 25, 2008, 10:54:04 pm
Quote from: Dada on July 25, 2008, 06:32:19 pm
I never really saw a good reason to become a vegetarian. Although I disagree with the cruel treatment of animals, it really just doesn't resonate very strongly with me that I can be part of the change by simply changing diet. And I'm a very big fan of cooking and eating good food, too; I don't want to limit myself. I want to be able to make smoked salmon, coq aux vin and pâté en croûte when I want to.
Same here.

Props to you for having the willpower to go vegetarian, though. I've been trying to cut soda out of my diet for years, but some reason I just can't. Mostly because I don't like water and its lack of flavor. So good luck to you!
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: goldenratio on July 25, 2008, 10:57:07 pm
every time ive quit drinking soda, the next day or two i just chug so much water. it tastes so good and clean and im dehydrated from all the sugar and shit in soda. i dont really like it much anyway so its not tough for me to not drink soda.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Alec on July 25, 2008, 11:27:31 pm
Yeah I love water so if I go without soda for a while I have no problems.

BM, since you're thinking of going vegetarian for some (nonexistent) moral reasons, make sure you stay clear of refried beans, too. They're choc full of animal lard.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: goldenratio on July 25, 2008, 11:32:03 pm
on the other hand black beans are super good and healthy for you.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on July 26, 2008, 01:33:30 am
i've given thought to this because meat doesn't do that much for me, though sometimes when i eat vegetables i feel less satisfied that before i ate! this is especially true of apples.

here are some things i like eating that don't have meat in them:
mashed potatoes
maccoroni and cheese
rice
peanut butter
pasta
corn flakes
fruit loops
toast
cake
brownies
ice cream
garlic bread
pickles
cookies
etc etc etc
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Doktormartini on July 26, 2008, 04:23:42 am
I used to drink 7+ cans of coke a day and gave that up overnight :)

Also it is possible to get refried beans without lard in them.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: datamanc3r on July 26, 2008, 05:11:15 am
Oven - baked stuffed bell peppers.

Yeah, I'm getting sick of what I eat myself. When I don't eat pasta (pasta...pasta...and pasta) I eat rice, bread, or Albertsons shit chicken. Or I eat out. Ugh. I'm tired all the time, take frequent naps during the midday, and I don't think as clearly as I know I ought to. I wonder if its the high carb diet. At any rate, I need something cheap to start changing things up.

EDIT: Pea salad is pretty badass, too.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on July 26, 2008, 09:06:48 am
I don't know who would be interested in this, but would anyone want to try like a 30 day meat famine with me? No meat, for 30 days, and just see how it goes? There seems to be a few borderline vegetarians here, and maybe we could swap receipes or something. Also it could be a challenge for a 'heavy' meat eater.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: PTizzle on July 26, 2008, 10:46:09 am
Quote from: WunderBread on July 25, 2008, 10:54:04 pm
Props to you for having the willpower to go vegetarian, though. I've been trying to cut soda out of my diet for years, but some reason I just can't. Mostly because I don't like water and its lack of flavor. So good luck to you!

I've been eating way healthier recently and I find flavoured waters usually do me just fine if I feel like something that isn't just water. Like, vitamin water and stuff isn't what I'm referring to (although I do like that, its just still got a lot of sugar in it) more like those 'sportswater' drinks (not Gatorade) that have about 10 grams of sugar in a 600ml bottle. There's this stuff in Australia called Mizone which I absolutely love and it's really cheap so I drink that a lot. Just try different stuff and remember juice isn't a great substitute for soda.

As far as being vegetarian goes I love fruit/vegetables but I really enjoy food in general so I don't want to deprive myself of meat. I do have a conscience about the treatment of animals and I always try to buy organic/free range (although I know that's not really SOLVING THE PROBLEM it's just slightly better). Still, Italian food especially I find is usually better without meat. Vegetarian pizzas/pastas are the bomb. I love stuff like olives though (I used to eat them out of the jar when I was little kid apparently, like instead of lollies) so maybe that helps a lot!

Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Holy Cow on July 26, 2008, 03:53:58 pm
If i remember correctly, many Mediterranean meals are kind of vegetarian. You can go and search up for them in the internet (I won't give you any recipes since I suck at cooking) but I'm 100% sure you can find many things there.
As for the protein/vitamin thing it is true that you will be missing some of them. Red meat IS important for the body but I'm sure you can make without
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Vellfire on July 26, 2008, 04:01:42 pm
Quote from: Doktormartini on July 26, 2008, 04:23:42 am
I used to drink 7+ cans of coke a day and gave that up overnight :)

This is pretty much impossible to do if you're actually dependent on caffeine though man.  Do you even realize how fucking sick you'd be?  You either have to quit drinking them and just deal with being really sick for a week or do it gradually.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Pulits on July 26, 2008, 04:47:03 pm
I used to drink 2, maybe 3 daily liters of coke a day? Then I stopped, certain studies say sugar is even worse than cholesterol. :/

I don't know why everyone dislikes vegetables that much. I love them! First of all, you should try these: broccoli, cauliflower, globe artichokes, corn, kale, collard greens, spinach, beet greens, turnip greens, endive, celery, asparagus, potatoes and sweet potatoes, carrots, parsnips, beets, radishes, turnips, tomatoes, cucumbers, squash, pumpkins, capsicums (bell peppers and hot peppers), eggplant, tomatillos, peas, beans, etc.

If you're going vegan, remember fruits and nuts (ALMONDS) are mandatory. An omega3 supplement is always good, you can always have milled flax seed. As for vitaminb12, the vegan association recommends taking a vitaminb12 supplement. As for protein, complete proteins can be found in: spirulina, quinoa, soy, buckwheat, hempseed and amaranth.

If you're still eating certain meats, I highly recommend salmon, tuna, turkey and chicken breast, sirloin and eggs. And certain dairy products, such as cottage cheese, goat cheese and some hams.


Anyways, I'm not a vegan, but sometimes I've vegan dishes just to have some variation in my diet. My favorite dish is a quinoa salad. I'll post the recepee just because I'm in a good mood, you'll  need:
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Doktormartini on July 27, 2008, 02:07:46 am
Quote from: Velfarre on July 26, 2008, 04:01:42 pm
This is pretty much impossible to do if you're actually dependent on caffeine though man.  Do you even realize how fucking sick you'd be?  You either have to quit drinking them and just deal with being really sick for a week or do it gradually.
I didn't get sick.  I don't know if I was actually dependent on it...it was just like a habit.  Would always have friends over stay up all night playing video games and drinking pop.  I know when you are so addicted then go off it you can get detox symptoms (headaches) but I never got those.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: GirlBones on July 27, 2008, 02:32:53 am
i dont know whether it's healthy or not, but i eat a lot of fruit!

maybe they dont have as many nutrients but if you are going veggie and you dont like veggies then eat fruit??? i eat lots of apples and oranges and pineapples along with lemons and grapefruits. i dont know how expensive fruit is in the uk but if it is as cheap as it is in the us then get melons (they are the best)
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: goldenratio on July 27, 2008, 02:42:09 am
ps fruit has about twice as much on average calories as vegetables

you can gain weight from eating too much fruit!

learn to like vegetables man it's your only hope
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Vellfire on July 27, 2008, 02:48:25 am
Quote from: Doktormartini on July 27, 2008, 02:07:46 am
I didn't get sick.  I don't know if I was actually dependent on it...it was just like a habit.  Would always have friends over stay up all night playing video games and drinking pop.  I know when you are so addicted then go off it you can get detox symptoms (headaches) but I never got those.

If you didn't get sick, chances are you weren't dependent on it.  If I go too long without caffeine, I not only get horrible headaches, but I also get some pretty severe nausea which sometimes means I do end up vomiting.  And then because I'm too sick to eat my blood sugar drops really bad and then even worse symptoms.

Basically I am just saying for a lot of people it's not that easy to just stop drinking pop.  I've been drinking less and less though, but if I just plain STOPPED I'd probably be bedridden for a couple of days not eating anything.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: goldenratio on July 27, 2008, 02:54:06 am
that is insane velfarre because i've done that a lot of times and never gotten sick. just a month ago i would sometimes drink nothing but soda all day, and one day i stopped cold turkey and, i was fine. still am. you are weird.
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Post by: Doktormartini on July 27, 2008, 02:54:07 am
Fruit is really healthy.  They are the main source of antioxidants and some vitamins (like C) in the diet.  Obviously these things are found in other foods but they are highest in fruits.  Fruits are high in sugar so make sure you watch that.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Vellfire on July 27, 2008, 02:58:00 am
Quote from: goldenratio on July 27, 2008, 02:54:06 am
that is insane velfarre because i've done that a lot of times and never gotten sick. just a month ago i would sometimes drink nothing but soda all day, and one day i stopped cold turkey and, i was fine. still am. you are weird.

I've been drinking ridiculous amounts of mountain dew since i was a really little kid i think it's drinking a lot for a really long amount of time (and the fact that it's mountain dew in particular) that does it

I know other people who are the same way, I am not just one weirdo!
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Pulits on July 27, 2008, 03:01:19 am
Quote from: goldenratio on July 27, 2008, 02:42:09 am
ps fruit has about twice as much on average calories as vegetables

you can gain weight from eating too much fruit!

learn to like vegetables man it's your only hope

This is partially true, man. Yes, most fruits have more calories than vegetables, but they still are very low calorie dense. For example, a large apple  only has 70 calories. Even a banana, which is one of the most calorie dense fruits, has only 100 calories. Weight gain is promoted by other factors.

Everyone thinks fruits are just "nature's candies", I like to call them "nature's multivitamin&multimineral". They're so rich in nutrients, antixodiants, fiber and enzymes than I can't imagine a diet without fruits.

Yes, there are some fruits that are high in sugar, but not because of that you will restrict them from your diet, since it's really isn't that much. With fruits that are 'high' in sugar, like watermelon and mango, just eat moderate proportions. Eating around 2-4 pieces of fruit per day is great. And with berries? You can eat as much as you want.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: goldenratio on July 27, 2008, 03:03:38 am
i never said anything about restricting diet but if you want to eat healthy and do not like vegetables you cannot just eat fruit all the time.

and velfarre you are treating dok as if he is weird because he quit drinking coke overnight and "a lot of people have a harder time with it" but unless you've been drinking "ridiculous amounts of mountain dew since you were a little kid" it's not going to give you WITHDRAWL come on
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Pulits on July 27, 2008, 03:07:45 am
Quote from: goldenratio on July 27, 2008, 03:03:38 am
i never said anything about restricting diet but if you want to eat healthy and do not like vegetables you cannot just eat fruit all the time.


Oh no, of course. I agree, you just can't eat fruits. Vegetables are mandatory. Vegan or non-vegan, a diverse and rich diet promotes a healthy lifestyle.
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Post by: Doktormartini on July 27, 2008, 04:31:28 am
Fruits are like the best thing ever...if I could I would live off of them...haha.
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Vellfire on July 27, 2008, 12:55:40 pm
Quote from: goldenratio on July 27, 2008, 03:03:38 am
and velfarre you are treating dok as if he is weird because he quit drinking coke overnight and "a lot of people have a harder time with it" but unless you've been drinking "ridiculous amounts of mountain dew since you were a little kid" it's not going to give you WITHDRAWL come on

dude i never said he was WEIRD i just said it is not that easy for a lot of people!  when it is that easy for you i'd say it would probably be hard to understand how hard it is for others because you'd just be thinking "yeah but...I just sort of...quit!"

i'm not telling him he's weird i'm just telling him not everyone can do it
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: goldenratio on July 27, 2008, 04:03:46 pm
if you really have that much trouble not drinking SODA you need to quit AS SOON AS FUCKING POSSIBLE because that is horrible velfarre!!
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Lyndon on July 27, 2008, 04:06:15 pm
Quote from: Velfarre on July 27, 2008, 12:55:40 pm
dude i never said he was WEIRD i just said it is not that easy for a lot of people!  when it is that easy for you i'd say it would probably be hard to understand how hard it is for others because you'd just be thinking "yeah but...I just sort of...quit!"

i'm not telling him he's weird i'm just telling him not everyone can do it

I gave up smoking over night. Pure will power. Some peole can do it man
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Post by: big ass skelly on July 27, 2008, 04:29:31 pm
I don't understand how people can't like vegetables. I'm not a vegetarian (LOVE MEAT) but I can't think of a vegetable I don't like. The struggle some parents have to go through to get their kids to EAT UP THEIR GREENS is really weird to me because when I was a kid I loved that shit.
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Post by: im_so_tired on July 27, 2008, 04:34:35 pm
rice and beans!
kale, maybe
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: Vellfire on July 27, 2008, 04:56:38 pm
Quote from: goldenratio on July 27, 2008, 04:03:46 pm
if you really have that much trouble not drinking SODA you need to quit AS SOON AS FUCKING POSSIBLE because that is horrible velfarre!!

That is why I've gradually been drinking less and less, my withdrawl symptoms are actually a LOT better than they used to be.  Basically I am working on it!
Title: [FOOD] Help!?
Post by: local_dunce on July 28, 2008, 09:13:18 am
Awesome guys. You've given me some GREAT TIPS. Maybe I will update you if in A MONTH I am still vegetarian.