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General Category => Technology and Programming => Topic started by: Madolah on August 03, 2008, 02:26:56 am
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not 100% sure if i wanna build a computer but its leaning more towards a yes.
Anyway i want to post here so i don't forget it and also for some suggestions?
case: This (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14999&vpn=ATXB8KLW-BK&manufacture=Apevia) or This (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27942&vpn=6XR8BB&manufacture=Compucase)
Mobo: P5Q Pro (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30418&vpn=P5Q%20Pro&manufacture=ASUS)
Ram: Corsair XMS2 2Gx2 (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25228&vpn=TWIN2X4096-6400C5&manufacture=CORSAIR)
HDD: 1TB barracuda (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26387&vpn=ST31000340AS&manufacture=Seagate)
Processor: Q6600 (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=22211&vpn=BX80562Q6600&manufacture=Intel)
Cooling (improved heat-sink): Thermalright ULTRA (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23531&vpn=ULTRA-120-EXTREME&manufacture=THERMALRIGHT)
Video card(s): Diamond 4870 HD (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30819&vpn=4870PE5512&manufacture=Diamond)
DVD drive: Samsung 203S (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=28610&vpn=SH-S203S/BEBN&manufacture=Samsung)
PSU: OCZ 700 (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18185&vpn=OCZ700GXSSLI&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology)
Yeah, Also I'll be running 32x bit Windows XP and I am fully aware that with XP i will only got like 3.2Gigs out of the ram. The Cards will be Sli'd and the Computer will be sporting a 22' Monitor most likely, to play games on and for drawing purposes (main reasons for the computer)
i might sacrifice the TB for two 500's but i think its worth it for a 1tb HDD.
suggestions? anything you'd change or add? I might think on a soundcard but the built in on the board is pretty nice anyway so...
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Not a huge fan of either case, but the first one if it's just between those two, considering your general love of all things blue, I'd reccomend the Antec 900.
The P5N-T Deluxe mobo has massive issues with the Q6600 processor (remember trying to install Rob's?).
As much as I hate to reccomend it, you're likely better going with a Radeon HD4780 or a GTX 260 than 2x 8800gts. SLI really isn't worth quite the cost, and if you're looking for something cost effective, 1 8800gt isn't a huge performance change from 2.
PSU, DVD Drive, Cooling, RAM and HDD options are great, but you may want to look into the others. Also they're stopping production of the Q6600 soon considering Intel has been wanting to shift focus on to their 9xxx model series.
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I'll start with the motherboard. I am an AMD fan, so I would recommend that, but since you chose Intel first, I assume that is what you want. However SLI loses to Crossfire in almost every test of scaling and nVidia is experiencing a quality control nightmare where their chipsets and components in their graphics cards are failing at alarming rates. Some companies are completely recalling motherboards that have nVidia chipsets. For the moment, you might want to stay away from them. Here are several good Intel replacements from ASUS that support CrossfireX (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=Property&N=2010200280&StoreType=7&CompareItemList=N82E16813131299%2cN82E16813131296%2cN82E16813131298%2cN82E16813131235&srchInDesc=crossfire&OEMMark=1%2c0&Manufactory=1315&PropertyCodeValue=3880%3a27176&bop=And).
If you are going for a gaming rig, you may consider a Raptor instead of a Barracuda. I have found that even at the rate I download music and movies, 1 TB is too big an amount to pay money for when you could pay a third more for a 10k rpm drive. Here you go (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136260&Tpk=velociraptor).
You made the right choice on the Thermalright Ultra, which is well known for being extremely good.
Alright, now for the graphics cards, the new 4000 series of ATi cards blows the nVidia stuff right out of the water except for the ultra-high end ones, which the 300$-or-less 4870 can compete nearly on-par with for almost half the cost. Performance-wise, the 4870 is the most powerful, however the 4850 is more cost-effective, registering at less than 200. Both scale extremely well in crossfire and while the 4870 fares better, the 4850 experiences a larger percentage game when running double. I recommend Visiontek. Here is their 4870 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129113&Tpk=visiontek%2b4870) and here is their 4850 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129112&Tpk=visiontek%2b4850). I am currently running two 4870s on my current rig and they are spectacular.
I have had several recommendations against OCZ's power supplies, so while I do not know how widespread defects are, several people I know have had trouble with them. I recommend Thermaltake, Antec, or Cooler Master, personally.
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Jeff I'm Canadian and cannot newegg.
And from what i hear the P5N-T D is not my mobo.... its reviews say its not compatible with q6600 very well... and i like the fact of 8800gts being cheap... like 2 for a little more than a single 4870. OCZ ram is also not a viable option and I'm thinking if the price hike for 4gigs of corsair ddr2 is worth it. the PSU is one my friend has and is quite reliable.
Also i want a 1TB or at least a 750GB hdd for the shear fact that i would most likely download and keep every movie and album i want on it...
any other suggestions?
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You don't understand. Your 2 8800 GT's will have their asses royally handed to them by the 4870, and will be about on par with 1 4850.
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Really? My experience with 8800GTs (albeit very little) have shown me there powerful wnough even alone to run games on pretty nice levels.
But if the 48xx series of ATi's are better, I'll have to bite the bullet.
Edit: Changed the first post a bit. New board, Ram, Video card specs.
ps: Not paying $350+ for a 300gig HDD that is faster. $189 for a 1TB at regular speed is fine with me.
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Man I bought an 8600 about a year ago and I regret it so much because 8800s are so cheap these days and I have barely played PC games since then (fuck you Hellgate London).
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Well now 4850s are getting cheaper so you can just grab one of them, and be faster than if you had two 8800s.