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Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Lennon on August 05, 2008, 03:52:31 pm
I can't stand stand it.... Its the reason why I only have like 6 anime's that I've ever liked, but now when I browse through them all that comes up are anime's about some emo 14 year old guy who has a relationship problem. It's sickening, and It compiles over 70% of all anime.

Anyway..... Anyone else hate this?
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Kaworu on August 05, 2008, 09:40:50 pm
Someone put a bit more into this topic by around this time tomorrow and it won;t get locked.
Give a thought out reason as to why you hate them, why you think 70% of all anime are them, etc and I'll keep this open. Basically make an arguement for some people here to argue against/for instead of an ignorant blanket statement.
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: big ass skelly on August 06, 2008, 12:14:39 am
kaworu loves school anime it seems ^______^'
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Kaworu on August 06, 2008, 08:26:25 am
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Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: headphonics on August 06, 2008, 09:09:45 am
can someone actually name a good school-based anime????  i am just curious and also if you mention azumanga diaoh your tastes are immediately disqualified sorry
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Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on August 06, 2008, 09:23:32 am
School Days was pretty good. And by that I mean only the final episode.
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Post by: fatty on August 06, 2008, 10:17:50 am
Nightmare Campus was kinda good
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Post by: WarV on August 06, 2008, 10:35:48 am
can someone actually name a good school-based anime????  i am just curious and also if you mention azumanga diaoh your tastes are immediately disqualified sorry

Death Note! Ummmmm...... Full Metal Panic! Well....... Code Geass?
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Kaworu on August 06, 2008, 11:06:39 am
Haruhi is the only decent school anime I've seen.
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Post by: NovaGenesis on August 06, 2008, 01:34:48 pm
Bleach is, kind of a school anime. And thats...popular anyway, it has nice action even if its terribly 2 dimensional most of the time.
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Post by: random username on August 06, 2008, 03:59:45 pm
Haruhi is the only decent school anime I've seen.
Yeah, this pretty much. That's one of the only school animes I've actually bothered to watch.
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Post by: crone_lover720 on August 06, 2008, 10:52:32 pm
haruhi is a lot worse than azumanga imo
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: headphonics on August 06, 2008, 11:38:35 pm
haruhi was pretty good for the first episode and then it got really bad and i can't believe it's so popular because imo it's dumb as hell and not funny!  i might've watched it had it continued being like the first episode was.  bleach is uh... yeah.  death note was kinda cool in premise because it reminded me of persona but it's not so hot.  code geass is terrible.  for some reason i have seen ALL OF FMP and i thought the original series was pretty not good but i'll admit the followups are ABOVE AVERAGE, but not by much!  you guys aren't very good at this game.

but yeah kaworu you know like 95% of anime is borderline unwatchable if you are an adult, and i could probably come up with a pretty compelling argument as to why that is.  why are you getting on him for making a totally accurate blanket statement?
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Post by: jamie on August 06, 2008, 11:56:24 pm
i remember liking the first episode of haruhi suzumiya cos i thought it was just a funny absurd show about nothing in particular other than some girl's desire to make interesting things happen. then i found out the episodes were just out of order and really it wasn't such an interesting show.
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Post by: crone_lover720 on August 07, 2008, 02:58:24 am
besides what you guys said, haruhi tries to have a point and it makes it really pretentious and unbearable imo. at least I know kaworu isn't watching it for the MOE tho. except for the magic guy I guess (thats kyons gay side)

oh I tried to watch uh what was that shit?? Oouran Host Club or something, like with haruhi people insisted it was really good. there was this Honey and ughghgh just look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ouran_High_School_Host_Club_characters made me wnat to punch stuff
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Kaworu on August 07, 2008, 08:56:14 am
but yeah kaworu you know like 95% of anime is borderline unwatchable if you are an adult, and i could probably come up with a pretty compelling argument as to why that is.  why are you getting on him for making a totally accurate blanket statement?
Because it's a really shit basis for a topic, "I hate [genre] who agrees with me?", it'd be locked everywhere else (but... comics&anime needs the topics/posts :( )


also 95%? more like 99 % is unwatchable (let's forget borederline)

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Post by: headphonics on August 07, 2008, 10:14:13 am
yeah i was leaning towards a moderate assessment of the medium just in case you still had megagay taste but *phew*
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Post by: Vellfire on August 07, 2008, 12:38:09 pm
today in class 2-B was aces


also

but the problem here isn't where they're set, just that they happen to be shit shows...there's a lot more shit anime taking place in other places, they aren't bad BECAUSE they're in high schools, just because they're bad
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Kaworu on August 07, 2008, 02:46:39 pm
I dunno I mean by being school-based they also generally aim for HIGHSCHOOLCRUSH and shit as major plot parts, plus the oh so embarassing sports classes where the special shorter skirts flap up and down as they run revealing panties before the creepy teacher.
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Kaworu on August 07, 2008, 02:47:02 pm
ugh fuck now I'm the one saying blanket statements.
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Post by: big ass skelly on August 07, 2008, 07:12:54 pm
I'm good at blanket statements, here's one:

I like blankets, they're comfy and easy to sleep under :-)
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: crone_lover720 on August 08, 2008, 06:01:23 am
today in class 2-B was aces


also

but the problem here isn't where they're set, just that they happen to be shit shows...there's a lot more shit anime taking place in other places, they aren't bad BECAUSE they're in high schools, just because they're bad
sorry velfarre I know we usually have similar tastes but I hated utena so much.

I agree, plus a lot of animefans tend to really enjoy FIGHTING and STORYLINES, two things school-based stuff generally lacks. storylines, gotta have my storylines I love amature RPGs
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: headphonics on August 08, 2008, 06:50:18 am
well actually i think their setting leads them to be bad in their own ways.  anime isn't just bad most of the time, it's bad in varying ways depending on what the setting/genre is.  i mean, there are universals, like panty shots and other lame stuff, but generally i find that school-based animes tend to be unwatchable for different reasons than say... FIGHTING anime, or dramas, or whatever else.


also rendpppppppppppppppppppper what are you some kind of anime nerd???
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Post by: crone_lover720 on August 08, 2008, 03:00:49 pm
I've seen every anime ever made.
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Vellfire on August 08, 2008, 03:45:15 pm
sorry velfarre I know we usually have similar tastes but I hated utena so much.

it's cool it was one of those things no one really likes halfway it's much more of a YES OR NO type thing
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Post by: Kitsune Inferno on August 08, 2008, 08:04:20 pm
I dislike most anime, but I am a rabid fan of a select few. Most anime seems to be just like another, or just incredibly lame. The anime I can actually stand are One Piece and Gintama, and Bleach to an extent.
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Vellfire on August 08, 2008, 08:14:30 pm
I dislike most anime, but I am a rabid fan of a select few. Most anime seems to be just like another, or just incredibly lame. The anime I can actually stand are One Piece and Gintama, and Bleach to an extent.

wow
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on August 09, 2008, 04:16:19 am
I've seen every anime ever made.

That has to be mathematically impossible.

I mean that would make you like what, 10'000 years old?
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Post by: WunderBread on August 09, 2008, 05:53:07 am
One Piece was fairly interesting. It's not something I follow regularly, but I did get through the first thirty volumes before I stopped reading. Like Naruto, it's one of those things I'll never watch (tooooo looonnnnggg) but I will read on occasion in an archive binge. Same thing with other long-runners like Bleach. Generally >20 volumes is where I have the cutoff for my manga picks.

School anime. I think there's a lot less of it than you think. But for some reason it always get shoved to the front end of the anime spectrum. The term you use is also incredibly broad. I mean, a lot of stuff takes place in/near a school, but the "school" thing is not their predominant theme. You mean... without major supernatural occurrences and otherworldly interferences? Just... school? I don't think I've watch so much of that. I got partway through Clannad before I stopped watching (TOO MUCH TIME ON ONE CHARACTER ARC) but I thought it was pretty cool. I did enjoy Haruhi Suzumiya and Azumanga Daioh, but Ouran High School Host Club kind of made me want to stab people in the face. I watched up to episode 8 or so, and while I laughed a few times, just wasn't my kind of anime. I couldn't even touch Lucky Star.

Um... there's (lol) Reborn. School manga, yup. *snicker* Seriously, a manga that actually starts the action after, like, 80 chapters?And that's not even mentioning the more obvious flaws...
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: XxSylverxX on August 09, 2008, 06:14:19 am
most anime is based around early highschoolers because lo and behold that is it's target audience, deal with it or grow up and realise most anime is relatively shallow and shitty.
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Post by: Cardinal Ximenez on August 10, 2008, 11:12:10 pm
Honestly, mainstream Japanese animation is about as diverse and interesting as the English-language fantasy market. Its entire appeal consists of "lol ribaldry", and that ends up getting cut out in America anyways.
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Post by: Kaworu on August 10, 2008, 11:24:19 pm
fantasy can be pretty diverse. I mean if you ignore the 99% of it tht reads like LOTR fanfiction, of course.
Not that I'm admiting to reading fiction or anything.
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: headphonics on August 11, 2008, 07:07:14 am
fantasy can be pretty diverse. I mean if you ignore the 99% of it tht reads like LOTR fanfiction, of course.
Not that I'm admiting to reading fiction or anything.
Man I read a lot of this shit as a teenager, and it's really not very diverse at all in practice!  I'm not saying it never is or that it's impossible to be, but your post is kind of misleading, because like you said 99% of it is poorly-written D&D/Tolkien garbage that reads like fan fiction.  The problem extends to sci-fi too, once you realize that they appeal to the same demographic and writers, and as a result, 99% of sci-fi by extension reads like fantasy with lasers and spaceships.  It's too bad because I've read some pretty good works in both genres and not only do most authors have no clue what the fuck they're doing a large portion of the time, but it's never going to get any better because fantasy fans gobble that shit up without even acknowledging the genre is as rote and uninspired as it could conceivably be without ACTUALLY BEING the same book over and over again.  For a while I thought Goodkind might be a passable writer (even good!), and what I liked about him was how he attempted to write females as if they were different from male characters, and not just men with tits/feminine battle armor (it was actually his books that made me realize how badly almost all female characters blow), but he's got his own issues too, not the least of which seems to be a pretty noticeable dose of sexism in all of his books.

Also I always thought the Shannara books were very formulaic, because I read like five in a row and they literally all followed the same basic sequence of events, but I liked the SWORD in the first one when I was sixteen or so.  I was reading it, and it was a pretty long book, and I was expecting the sword to perform some kind of potent, darke majicks, and instead it just made the guy ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH//FACE THE FACTS and was kind of completely anti-climactic.  I was pleasantly surprised by that part of it, but yeah it's not a very good series.

Also what is Venture Bros. even influenced by?  You realize it's a satire, right?  Like it's obviously a parody of Johnny Quest, but I wouldn't list that as an influence, so much as the subject.  I think you should differentiate between parodies that are based on certain things, and serious works that are just rehashes.  Like, even of Venture Bros. was bad, it wouldn't be the same as that other stuff.
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Kaworu on August 11, 2008, 12:09:24 pm
I thought sci-fi was just the same book over and over again with the spaceship/planet names changed :rolleyes:
It's a shame as some of them have GREAT ARTWORK by Boris Vallejo or something on the front but read like a trekkie's wet dream.
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Tsukuru on August 12, 2008, 09:40:00 pm
Actually, I love school based anime. It's one of my favorite type of anime to watch. :)
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Lennon on August 13, 2008, 12:18:30 am
Wow, just randomly came here and found that this isn't locked somehow.
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: Kaworu on August 13, 2008, 09:26:00 am
Tsukuru care to elaborate why?
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Post by: ericwr114 on August 15, 2008, 12:42:11 am
 School Based Anime is just ok for me.
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: dark_crystalis on August 15, 2008, 02:28:34 am
GTO and Please Teacher were pretty decent but I agree that the rest is really crappy in general.
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Post by: yugi on August 16, 2008, 12:00:26 pm
Hey guys, Freddie would like to have a word with you all...
(http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/23607/26851111356844.jpg)
"..." (Go watch Cromartie High)
Title: Anyone Else Hate School Based Anime?
Post by: WunderBread on August 19, 2008, 05:59:52 am
GTO and Please Teacher were pretty decent but I agree that the rest is really crappy in general.
GTO is understandable, but Please Teacher? Out of all the GOOD school anime that exists, you picked Please Teacher? Dear God. It's all fanservice. And not so much of a fantastic plot, either.
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Post by: Vale on August 19, 2008, 10:25:01 am
"..." (Go watch Cromartie High)
Agreed, actually.