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Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Massy2k6 on August 07, 2008, 01:21:54 am
Can anyone recommend any games on the pc which contain a good level editor?
How easy are they to use and is it worth playing around with the level editor or do most people just stick with original levels?

Any advice is appreciated, im just curious cause i think it would be cool to create a 3d environement you can walk and play around in especially if its online with friends.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: xanque on August 07, 2008, 01:45:13 am
The best editor I've seen is for any of the Trackmania games.  It's a racing game, but the tracks are hella fun to make.

I'd love to see an FPS with level editors like Timesplitters again though.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Ragnar on August 07, 2008, 01:49:59 am
Excitebike represent
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Aten on August 07, 2008, 01:51:25 am
Excitebike!!

And I remember having loads of fun with Tenchu 2's level editor!
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: goat on August 07, 2008, 01:52:09 am
You might like Gary's Mod for Half Life 2.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Ragnar on August 07, 2008, 01:53:29 am
Excitebike!!

And I remember having loads of fun with Tenchu 2's level editor!

I remember there was like some sample level called TENCHU INC. or something and it was like a typical Japanese office building except... with ninjas

it was like Hideo Kojima's wet dream I think

Edit: I was looking up Excitebike and there's this other game called Wrecking Crew that sounds familiar and yet I've never seen it ever
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Bravo on August 07, 2008, 02:08:32 am
Excitebike represent
YES! That game is fucking sick. And the level editor was so much fun.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Iaman on August 07, 2008, 02:45:59 am
Gears of War PC Edition comes with the Gears Editor, which pretty much boils down to being a level editor...  It's a level editor in the sense that UNREAL EDITOR IS A LEVEL EDITOR, though, so you'd best have time to learn your way through it.  You can make some REALLY impressive stuff with it, though, and it's all shit that looks GREAT on a resume if you want to go be a level designer or something.

And, yes, this is true.  My roommate is working for Midway right now and they were very impressed by the work we did on the Gears level we made a few months back.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Marcus on August 07, 2008, 03:11:14 am
morrowind
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Eltee on August 07, 2008, 03:34:14 am
the morrowind editor is hella clunky

but i mean hella clunky


if your pc is old and half-cuts morrowind, the editor is going to murder you
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Boulvae on August 07, 2008, 08:31:44 am
If strategy game map editors count I recommend Starcraft and Warcraft (1 and 2, 3 if you like working with 3D!!!). It also conesquently teaches you the RPG Maker language aswell. You can do all sorts of neat things with it using the Trigger editor, plus the importing and exporting of models was pretty cool to me.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Lars on August 07, 2008, 04:25:35 pm
stunts

'nuff said
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Sapsuker on August 07, 2008, 04:30:59 pm
StarCraft? It has a decent map editor, if that counts. And there's a buttload of shit they've made on the internet that makes it even more flexible.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Avatar on August 07, 2008, 11:07:05 pm
StarCraft? It has a decent map editor, if that counts. And there's a buttload of shit they've made on the internet that makes it even more flexible.
Or use Warcraft 3 editor.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: The Dude on August 08, 2008, 12:53:57 am
Quake. :D Doom3 level editor was fun too.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Ragnar on August 08, 2008, 03:09:21 am
I remember I thought Fighter Maker for the PS would be really fun but that game sucked so bad - they didn't even have any way to customize appearance until the PS2 version
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Bondo on August 08, 2008, 08:11:31 am
Duke Nukem 3d was the first editor I used, aside from Excitebike.  The editors for the Unreal games are awesome as well.  I heard Hammer for the source engine games is fantastic, and the editors for Farcry and Crysis are equally awesome.

Also, the obligatory Morrowind and Oblivion editors spawned a modding revolution.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Kaworu on August 08, 2008, 09:38:02 am
Crysis comes with the best level editor around. Check it out. You can dive right into the game from the editor screen without any loadtimes either.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: tuxedo marx on August 08, 2008, 10:22:16 am
The best editor I've seen is for any of the Trackmania games.  It's a racing game, but the tracks are hella fun to make.
HELL YES. I have succeeded in making some of the hardest, most soul crushing tracks known to man. (Trackmania Nations is free through Steam, too)
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Eltee on August 08, 2008, 06:00:12 pm
Free through anything. Save yourself some time and don't get it through steam.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Warlin on August 08, 2008, 08:41:42 pm
Has anyone even mentioned Neverwinter Nights?
I loved that game.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: DS on August 08, 2008, 09:40:16 pm
The editor which comes with Crysis is pretty fucking awesome imo.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on August 09, 2008, 04:19:04 am
Civilization 4's world builder.

Some people would say editing levels at any point during the game is going beyond the line.

I am not someone who belongs in that category.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Marcus on August 09, 2008, 04:23:21 am
Civilization 4's world builder.

Some people would say editing levels at any point during the game is going beyond the line.

I am not someone who belongs in that category.

That was the best part.  Playing the game, deciding it's not hard enough then surrounding yourself with barbarians and altering the landscape.  It was like playing God and playing leader in the same game.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: CociCookie on August 09, 2008, 05:59:56 pm
The best editor I've seen is for any of the Trackmania games.  It's a racing game, but the tracks are hella fun to make.

Downloaded it today, damn it's fun making tracks for it!

My only problem is the end track piece has to touch the ground. It wouldn't validate my long track, just 'cause the finish was off the ground.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: xanque on August 09, 2008, 10:05:38 pm
HELL YES. I have succeeded in making some of the hardest, most soul crushing tracks known to man. (Trackmania Nations is free through Steam, too)
I haven't spent a penny on Trackmania.  Their demos are pretty much full games. 

I designed a really cool track where you fly over and between a shit load of blimps, through some pipes, and land back on the track.  The amount of air you get on jumps alone makes it one of the best racing games ever.

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Downloaded it today, damn it's fun making tracks for it!

My only problem is the end track piece has to touch the ground. It wouldn't validate my long track, just 'cause the finish was off the ground.
Huh?  I've never had that problem.  often have the end piece high up in the air so that I can go flying off the track at the end.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: DoctorEars on August 10, 2008, 12:57:59 am
Trackmania definately has a cool editor. I wonder if Trackmania DS will have an indepth track editor like that?
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: The_Emugator on August 10, 2008, 01:51:16 am
Lode Runner: The Legend Returns/The Mad Monks Revenge/Online has a decent level editor. You can find a link for it in the Freeware Funfest thread.

Title: Games with level editors
Post by: VinceP on August 10, 2008, 02:33:23 am
ZZT (http://zzt.org)
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on August 10, 2008, 03:54:52 am
Unreal Tournament 2004 has an amazing level editor. Sure, UT3's is similar but the gameplay is just so much cooler in 2k4. If you want editing on the go, Megaman Powered Up is your answer. Sure the characters look deformed but the level editor is good and you can share your creations online and people are STILL creating and sharing maps!
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: tuxedo marx on August 10, 2008, 10:46:40 am
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Huh?  I've never had that problem.  often have the end piece high up in the air so that I can go flying off the track at the end.
Yeah me neither! Usually I have neither on the ground so that you can't drive backwards out of the start and through the finish the wrong way if I don't have checkpoints (like on ridiculous jump tracks).

My latest track has 4 loops in succession, all with hoops in them, another one after a bend, then another bend, then driving up one of those huge cabled decorations and down the other side, avoiding the blimp, then two super tunnel loops, a water jump and a ridiculous hairpin quarter pipe and over the finish line. Its name? LOOPZ BARKLEY
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: DoctorEars on August 10, 2008, 10:59:55 am


My latest track has 4 loops in succession, all with hoops in them, another one after a bend, then another bend, then driving up one of those huge cabled decorations and down the other side, avoiding the blimp, then two super tunnel loops, a water jump and a ridiculous hairpin quarter pipe and over the finish line. Its name? LOOPZ BARKLEY



That sounds like a fucking awesome track, can you upload it for all of us trackmania players or something? I feel like playing something that hectic.

Title: Games with level editors
Post by: tuxedo marx on August 10, 2008, 12:59:15 pm
It is fucking hectic. It also has awesomeful music.

http://files.filefront.com/LOOPZ+BARKLEYChallengeGbx/;11439139;/fileinfo.html
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: UPRC on August 10, 2008, 12:59:33 pm
ZZT (http://zzt.org)

Um.. What is ZZT? That website is horrible and it's hard to find information, screenshots, ANYTHING... So if it's so great, why don't you tell us a bit more about it rather than just posting a link?
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: Vellfire on August 10, 2008, 02:40:21 pm
Um.. What is ZZT? That website is horrible and it's hard to find information, screenshots, ANYTHING... So if it's so great, why don't you tell us a bit more about it rather than just posting a link?

Seriously, that link was TERRIBLE, and I don't get why anyone would use that when there's a wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZZT) that actually tells you what the fuck it is and has screenshots and everything.  It almost looked like a bad attempt at promoting a community than really suggesting this thing.

Now that I can actually see what it is though, it does look like a pretty neat thing.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: VinceP on August 10, 2008, 02:47:04 pm
Yeah. I should've posted the Wiki entry. My bad.

ZZT is great. I really reccomend you go download it, then go download some games for it under the featured games section of zzt.org. ZZT is very simple, but the graphics can actually be outstanding for ASCII. The editor has an entire object-oriented programming language which is easy to learn.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: CociCookie on August 10, 2008, 07:01:15 pm
Or you could try the next thing up from ZZT, MegaZeux.

Newer versions and forums where you can get help on it are at www.digitalmzx.net
I prefer it over ZZT because it runs better, and I know a little on how to use Robotic (The coding system) effectively (Like drawing a HUD). MZX Is basically an upgraded and more advanced ZZT, and there are many games you can dl from the DigitalMZX site too.

EDIT: And just to add, if you want to look at an awesome game-in-progress for it, go to the Journals forum and look at Hive World.
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on August 11, 2008, 06:14:34 pm
I make maps for Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne as a hobby. If you get interested and ever need help, just ask!
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: CociCookie on August 15, 2008, 04:22:34 pm
Well I discovered my true problem with Trackmania: If I do a symettrical track, with 2 lanes and checkpoints across both, it means you have to go back to hit the checkpoints you missed.

Which makes my 1 lap symettry race a 2 lap one 'cause you have to do both paths, ohwell. I'll upload it in a few mins after getting a new time for it. Watch this post!

EDIT: Uploaded! It's symettrical in the sense that there are equal turns on the track, but one track starts out high and goes over the other section. The scenery is a bit bland, but oh well! My best time is 2:42:53 - The gold is 2:53:00 O_o

http://www.mediafire.com/?luvxaej2ayw
Title: Games with level editors
Post by: tuxedo marx on August 15, 2008, 06:36:05 pm
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EDIT: Uploaded! It's symettrical in the sense that there are equal turns on the track, but one track starts out high and goes over the other section. The scenery is a bit bland, but oh well! My best time is 2:42:53 - The gold is 2:53:00 O_o
You can change gold / silver / bronze times in the objectives section on the editor! (and seriously play my track :D​)