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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Captain Mew on August 18, 2008, 04:20:07 pm
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Anyone ever heard of them? They're a pretty good band actually. The guitarist's mom actually lives right next door to me, and my uncle dated the guitarist's sister for a while. He lived there too for some time and I would always hear some sort of band practice going on. He still stops by once in a while and he's a pretty nice guy. Hell of a good guitarist too.
But yeah, if you have heard them, what do you think of them? If not, check them out
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I've heard them but I haven't really managed to pick anything out musically because I just hate their vocalist so much
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I've heard them but I haven't really managed to pick anything out musically because I just hate their vocalist so much
Yeah pretty much. Circa Survive's vocalist makes their music almost unlistenable to me.
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I hate this fucking band. I dont have a problem with higher-pitched vocals in general at all, but this guy is ridiculous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZlAunMb8o
ahaha i just laugh when i hear it it's so gay. [edit] i guess i dont care about the rest of the band pretty much i guess they arent bad but maybe they are generic i dont know but the vocalist *thumbsdown*
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I do not understand how you guys can dislike Anthony Green's voice. He is a legend.
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oh god I've heard about them before but I've never listened. He sounds like a rugrat.
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I do not understand how you guys can dislike Anthony Green's voice. He is a legend.
he's whinier than a toddler
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they are playing a free outdoor concert at my school the weekend after we move in. should I go?
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I honestly think that Anthony Green is one of the most talented vocalists of the last decade or so. He sings with such a passion, it's impossible not to feel it. His range is unbelievable. I can see how his voice might grate on some people's ears, but I adore it. Circa Survive isn't my favorite project of his though.
I think he does a phenomenal job in this song.
Beautiful song, btw
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they are playing a free outdoor concert at my school the weekend after we move in. should I go?
god no
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Circa Survive5Life.
Anthony Green is awesome.
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he sings differently in soaf and is not nearly as bad as circa survive.
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I don't hate his voice, but I don't like the music itself that much.
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this band sounds like they will just be forever vamping linkin park with some silly moogerfooger effects and distasteful static uptight drumming and bad vocals.
this is a pretty terrible post and I probably deserve a warning but I feel like this needs pointed out.
with that said the fact that they are playing a free show on the south oval at osu makes me sick
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I don't really see where you get "vamping linkin park with some silly moogerfooger effects" that is pretty inaccurate.
A more valid criticism of them would be that the guitarist is constantly playing arpeggios arpeggios arpeggios and theres really no variety to the songwriting. But they don't really sound like linkin park or even a contemporary of linkin park at all.
Also I don't think the vocals are BAD, I just think the songs aren't that great. I could see myself enjoying him as a singer if they just wrote cooler shit.
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i dont get how people can write songs so boring and not see anything wrong?
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Hm, the above posted song is growing on me guys. Sorry I have betrayed gw.
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I don't really see where you get "vamping linkin park with some silly moogerfooger effects" that is pretty inaccurate.
A more valid criticism of them would be that the guitarist is constantly playing arpeggios arpeggios arpeggios and theres really no variety to the songwriting. But they don't really sound like linkin park or even a contemporary of linkin park at all.
Also I don't think the vocals are BAD, I just think the songs aren't that great. I could see myself enjoying him as a singer if they just wrote cooler shit.
I based that on the 'beautiful' song that JOJO linked earlier in the topic.
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sorry I like my vocalists to have testicles.
*listens to Regina Spektor*
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Yeah, I downloaded their latest abum. They are pretty inept songwriters. The sound has a lot of potential imo and they do like one cool thing here and there, but yeah imo i wont listen again.
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This is actually one of my favorite bands. <3
I'm a little surprised anyone's actually, uh, HEARD of them, though. I had thought they were understandably obscure, in some ways.
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This is actually one of my favorite bands. <3
I'm a little surprised anyone's actually, uh, HEARD of them, though. I had thought they were understandably obscure, in some ways.
not really pretty much everyone at my high school knew about them
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i heard them in the vans store in the outlet mall so they are not obscure at all
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I downloaded one of their albums a few years ago and listened to a few tracks and hated it so deleted it. I liked the sound of animals fighting for a bit, but then realised that they are trying too hard to be different and comes off undeveloped and silly
edit: I tell a lie! It's still on my computer. Juturna. What's that mean?
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I'm surprised more of you don't appreciate this band.
Circa Survive has been my favorite group for a while now, and Anthony Green will always be my favorite vocalist. His voice may sound a little whiny at first but it grows on you after a while. He has a very broad vocal range, unique voice, and writes incredible lyrics.
Here are two great songs from their first album:
And another song from their second album:
AG's new album, Avalon, just recently came out too. It's mainly acoustic but if you like his voice and lyric writing you'll definitely like it.
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I'm surprised more of you don't appreciate this band.
Circa Survive has been my favorite group for a while now, and Anthony Green will always be my favorite vocalist. His voice may sound a little whiny at first but it grows on you after a while. He has a very broad vocal range, unique voice, and writes incredible lyrics.
Here are two great songs from their first album:
And another song from their second album:
AG's new album, Avalon, just recently came out too. It's mainly acoustic but if you like his voice and lyric writing you'll definitely like it.
His voice isn't what bothers me-- I don't even think whiny is a good word to describe it. Please post samples of his lyrics being incredible.
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His songs aren't based on typical love scenarios or the like. ie: the first album is heavily based off of Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind and I believe the second album is about religion; however, not necessarily against it, only concerning it. You've really gotta dig deep to understand his writing.
I'm not going to post any lyrics because they would make no sense without listening to the song/understanding for yourself.
Of course there are many artists who I think have equal if not better writing capabilities. (see Death Cab for Cutie, RX Bandits, The Mars Volta)
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I agree with Malad. The first song I ever heard by Anthony was Seven Years and I thought it voice sounded interesting to say the least. I just bonded with his voice and music when I was younger and not much has changed. I don't really like his new solo album except for a couple songs. I actually like some of the demos and earlier versions better. But. I think people either love or hate his voice. I'm one of the latter :>
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This is actually one of my favorite bands. <3
I'm a little surprised anyone's actually, uh, HEARD of them, though. I had thought they were understandably obscure, in some ways.
They aren't mainstream but they sure as hell aren't obscure.
Anyway, they are alright imo.
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I'm not going to post any lyrics because they would make no sense without listening to the song/understanding for yourself.
Of course there are many artists who I think have equal if not better writing capabilities. (see Death Cab for Cutie, RX Bandits, The Mars Volta)
What are you talking about. How does posting the lyrics NOT make sense without hearing the song? I'm not sure I'm understanding you here...it's like reading poetry. I agree with couch, post some lyrics.
also what were you referring to with that last sentence? death cab has awful lyrics.
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What are you talking about. How does posting the lyrics NOT make sense without hearing the song? I'm not sure I'm understanding you here...it's like reading poetry. I agree with couch, post some lyrics.
also what were you referring to with that last sentence? death cab has awful lyrics.
..in your opinion. :fogetmmh:
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yeah I don't agree death cab has awful lyrics, I mean they're quite sentimental, but still well written imo
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yeah, deathcab's lyrics are actually pretty good
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what, no they aren't.
they're maudlin horseshit lyrics, jesus christ. in fact I can think of no other band that embodies maudlin horseshit lyrics than death cab.
whoops I forgot
And I do believe it’s true
That there are roads left in both of our shoes
But if the silence takes you
Then I hope it takes me too
Love of mine some day you will die
But I'll be close behind
I'll follow you into the dark
And then the nurse comes round and everyone will lift their heads
But I'm thinking of what Sarah said that "Love is watching someone die"
So who's going to watch you die?.
I once knew a girl
In the years of my youth
With eyes like the summer
All beauty and truth
In the morning I fled
Left a note and it read
Someday you will be loved.
four random songs all about I LOVE YOU I WONT FORGET YOU WHEN I FUCK OFF/DIE yes these are some lyrical masterminds here.
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yeah what?
Your heart is a river that flows from your chest
Through every organ
Your brain is the dam
And i am the fish who can't reach the core.
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haha
I like Death Cab but those lyrics are retarded. I know their music is riddled with metaphors but most of the time they are really shitty metaphors.
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someone kill ben gibbard's girlfriend so he can die already it's what he wants!
seriously death cab is like THE EXAMPLE of a band overcoming their shitty lyrics to become passable (not by much I don't care for them), I refuse to believe the music forum thinks they have good lyrics.
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what, no they aren't.
they're maudlin horseshit lyrics, jesus christ. in fact I can think of no other band that embodies maudlin horseshit lyrics than death cab.
whoops I forgot
four random songs all about I LOVE YOU I WONT FORGET YOU WHEN I FUCK OFF/DIE yes these are some lyrical masterminds here.
Wait, so are you saying they are all about literally "i love you, i wont forget you when i leave/die"?
first song is just a general love song or something. second one is love/we will grow old together some day you will get old and die and i wont be able to live without you etc (also you left out the cooler parts of the lyrics "if heaven and hell decide that they both are satisfied, illuminate the 'no's on their vacancy signs" ok wait though thats the only cool part there are no partS i guess but still!). third one is about losing someone and thinking about the relationships you have, the connections you've made and wondering who is going to be there for you like you are for this person (whoever dies in the song). fourth song is about leaving someone and feeling guilty about not feeling guilty about it.
I never said they were really out there or super creative in terms of topic choice-- most of their songs are definitely about love and relationships etc, and all four of them I guess are related to love/loss kinda like you said if you want to boil it down a bit and ignore the details, but at the same time I think some of it is their lyricism is generally more on the clever side. Not saying gibbard is a lyrical genius or the best writer of our generation or whatever the hell ART BEAUTIFUL DEEP etc but, while I grant his lyrics are maudlin, they certainly aren't "horseshit".
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they are all the same shit argh.
I listen to gangster rap and that has more variety than Death Cab lyrics. when you repeat a theme (if I lose you I'll be sad) four times in four RANDOM CLICKS (should have said this), I really don't think you're a clever lyricist dogg.
that and the metaphors are all awful.
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yea lol i didnt think there would be anyone that would argue deathcab lyrics are good. they are overwrought as fuck and kind of embarrassing considering hes a pasty thirty year old fat white dude and not sixteen. like steel said it is very maudlin//one-note for basically all of their songs, so yeah! i gotta go to class but i will CONSTRUCT ARGUMENT when i get back
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I'm not arguing that they are good in an art sense, again. I guess death cab lyrics are more of a movie and less of a film, you know? I enjoy them and can relate to them and think they have their lines where they are well written. But yeah headphonics gimme your counter argument.
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I thought this topic was about circa survive
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yeah okay
i don't agree entirely with steel about all those songs saying the exact same thing, literally, because as you already went over, they don't. but!!! all of them basically have an identical tone/aesthetic about them that is very very tiresome to me (and apparently steel) and in general while i think they're an okay if incredibly cheeseball band if you just listen to them once in a while, listening to more than an album or so once every few months leaves the distinct impression that they literally cannot do anything besides write sophomoric, saccharine love songs.
also another thing that annoys me about them beyond the general inability of theirs to do anything more than exactly what steel quoted is that clever lyricism you mentioned. a lot of the more irritating examples are from the postal service but they're basically the same band in respect to their lyrics. you've got stuff like "i kissed you in a style clark gable would've admired//i thought it classic", and i think this sort of exemplifies not just a problem with them, but more of a problem with our entire generation and probably even beyond that, and that's this uh... ever-present urge to be cinematic. you can feel it in all of the deathcab/postal service songs. it's MEDIA INFLUENCE exerting itself over his writing and it is pretty much more tangible in his lyrics than in basically anything i've come across in music. people in our general age range, specifically indie/hipster people, have this clear desire for their lives to be as classically cinematic as possible, and it feels like this is reflected in everything they do and say, as it's all just some unconscious attempt to reconcile their own lives with what they've seen and admired in stupid, improbable movies that despite clearly being fiction, still influence the way they act and their expectations of life. i'm guilty of this too, for sure.
i kind of don't even want to consider this last part a flaw, but i definitely think it is, even if it isn't just specific to him or his band or even to MUSIC. but it is annoying and destructive, and it's in the same boat that stuff like "heh.......irony" is in terms of THINGS THOSE PEOPLE DO THAT ARE DUMB. it's just this skewed self-image that they've erected based on shit they have been force fed all their lives about like... how people should act and what romance is and all that. that's not technically a problem with his lyrics, but it's a problem with the intent behind them, which i think is still valid. i'd actually like you to come back and talk about this a bit because i'm not even sure it's fair of me to fault him for being OVERLY ROMANTIC in his lyrics, even if i can fault him for being overly romantic in his worldview and expectations of life, so yeah.
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and to relate this to circa survive I sincerely doubt their lyrics are any better, and since they are nigh incomprehensible when screaming, the whole YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO GET THE LYRICS MAN kind of falls apart.
unless you are seriously going to argue that some element of sincerity hitherto undetectable in the music posted here presents itself in these songs. it's possible (I personally don't like Karen O's stuff but Maps works really well) but it also doesn't justify the band being any good (a broken clock is right twice a day and all that).
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my exposure to the Yeah Yeah Yeahs is limited to that album tho so if they did get better panda dont yell at me!!!
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I thought this topic was about circa survive
can I derail this topic some more TRIPLE POST FUCK and say how much I hate posts like this. the rest of the topic is pretty clear in the division, and outside of a weak HIS LYRICS ARE GOOD defense, no one really justified this band's existence, let alone proved how good it was. so a derail on media driven lyrics being insincere and ultimately lacking vs whether sentimentality can really be expressed by any band without sounding eventually repetitive (itself a somewhat tired argument, but not one I've seen on these forums) and you want to go back to discussing the childman's lyrics about how hard songwriting is.
and you do this without actually trying to bring the topic back, just complaining when a more interesting discussion presents itself.
THIS IS ARE TOPIC TOOK ARE TOPIC FROM US.
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holy shit awesome circa survive lyrics, guys! :
Move one inch at a time.
Don't make shit rhyme.
Would it be easy to repeat the first line?
My mind's not a well;
It won't run dry.
Just keep drinking water and you'll be alright.
This is paralysis with no time at all to let go.
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well on show your bones they have more kind of poppy love songs and less PUNK-INSPIRED shit so i guess better would depend on your tastes. i don't really think she's anything special as a lyricist but she does not have the same problems as gibbard does, i don't think. also i could see the sincerity angle i guess but i think people tend to hide behind that too much for real cheesey lyricists, even when it does not really apply.
also yeah who cares what the topic is about. we are talking about something good//sort of related here and no one is saying anything even remotely interesting about whatever band this topic was initially about.
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yeah okay
i don't agree entirely with steel about all those songs saying the exact same thing, literally, because as you already went over, they don't. but!!! all of them basically have an identical tone/aesthetic about them that is very very tiresome to me (and apparently steel) and in general while i think they're an okay if incredibly cheeseball band if you just listen to them once in a while, listening to more than an album or so once every few months leaves the distinct impression that they literally cannot do anything besides write sophomoric, saccharine love songs.
also another thing that annoys me about them beyond the general inability of theirs to do anything more than exactly what steel quoted is that clever lyricism you mentioned. a lot of the more irritating examples are from the postal service but they're basically the same band in respect to their lyrics. you've got stuff like "i kissed you in a style clark gable would've admired//i thought it classic", and i think this sort of exemplifies not just a problem with them, but more of a problem with our entire generation and probably even beyond that, and that's this uh... ever-present urge to be cinematic. you can feel it in all of the deathcab/postal service songs. it's MEDIA INFLUENCE exerting itself over his writing and it is pretty much more tangible in his lyrics than in basically anything i've come across in music. people in our general age range, specifically indie/hipster people, have this clear desire for their lives to be as classically cinematic as possible, and it feels like this is reflected in everything they do and say, as it's all just some unconscious attempt to reconcile their own lives with what they've seen and admired in stupid, improbable movies that despite clearly being fiction, still influence the way they act and their expectations of life. i'm guilty of this too, for sure.
i kind of don't even want to consider this last part a flaw, but i definitely think it is, even if it isn't just specific to him or his band or even to MUSIC. but it is annoying and destructive, and it's in the same boat that stuff like "heh.......irony" is in terms of THINGS THOSE PEOPLE DO THAT ARE DUMB. it's just this skewed self-image that they've erected based on shit they have been force fed all their lives about like... how people should act and what romance is and all that. that's not technically a problem with his lyrics, but it's a problem with the intent behind them, which i think is still valid. i'd actually like you to come back and talk about this a bit because i'm not even sure it's fair of me to fault him for being OVERLY ROMANTIC in his lyrics, even if i can fault him for being overly romantic in his worldview and expectations of life, so yeah.
I do recognize the band's limitations and like I said before think of them more as a movie and less as a film. Haha I guess death cab is kinda like a movie that thinks its a film and tries to be one actually.
And I guess now that I'm thinking about it, I basically like death cab on the merit of a few of their lyrics being cool and mainly on their overall musical aesthetic (which I like, theres this poppier vibe but he does some subtler things that are out of the box like grouping phrases in sets of 5 and etc which is pretty cool sounding).
Your point about our generation being flawed in that it wants evrything to be "cinematic" though isn't entirely accurate I don't think. People have always compared their lives to the stories or w/e they are told/shown. Back in the day im sure kids wanted to be valiant knights and slay demons and shit.
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yeah this isn't a new thing, but in the past half century or so, the sheer amount of media we are bombarded with basically everywhere we go from the time we are conscious enough to ABSORB INFORMATION to the time we die has multiplied many many times over, and as a result, the role that STORIES play in our lives has skyrocketed i think.
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Ok yeah good point. Media influence on youth and disconnect with actual reality of life.
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i had orientation today at my uni with other music majors and we had to stand up and say what our specific major was, what we played and our favorite music. three kids said circa survive
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Someone rename the thread to media influence on our generation or something and move it to general.
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yeah this isn't a new thing, but in the past half century or so, the sheer amount of media we are bombarded with basically everywhere we go from the time we are conscious enough to ABSORB INFORMATION to the time we die has multiplied many many times over, and as a result, the role that STORIES play in our lives has skyrocketed i think.
I wish we had some really old guy on these forums who was just totally into big band aesthetics who could talk about how his generation was slightly different and were about ROOTY TOOTY ZIP BOP shit.
this all started with Phil Ochs and those Vietnam singers. BOB DYLAN.
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its music
i like it you dont big deal :(
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Whoooah, are you saying "its music" as in "get a grip guys, its just music!"
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close forum malad won the forum, theres nothing to talk about ever.
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Its nothing personal malad, just discussion.
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I don't hate his voice, but I don't like the music itself that much.
This is pretty much my opinion on this.
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Guys stop dissing these unoriginal, boring, recycled, unimportant, generic, worthless bands just because you don't like them.
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They're alright, but they're definitely no Three Six Mafia!
SIKE: I can't stand this kind of sappy shit. No groove, rigid & awkward as hell, and completely bland. These guys sound exactly like crap you'd hear in a mall store music system right in between Thursday, Incubus, and Hoobastank tracks.
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I thought the first album, Juturna, was all about his overcoming his drug addiction. :\
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That really speaks to me.
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Fuck you guys you are not helping!
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I dunno, I don't like it when people quote lyrics out of context so we can all go HAR HAR LOOK AT THIS. I mean you can probably try to find good lyrics to post up randomly but if you want to find shit lyrics you can just search the lyrics of pretty much any band and find something that sounds stupid and post it up.
That said Death Cab don't have great lyrics, but if you're in the soft/sappy mood they can be pretty satisfying. I don't think as a whole they're a particularly challenging group so I wouldn't expect anything that goes against that. It's all easy to digest sap mixed with heavy handed metaphors.
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Huge fan of Circa Survive, and The Sound of Animals Fighting is like art to me. Their first live cd was pretty out there, but very good and one of the most interesting live performances I've ever seen.
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I guess compared to most mainstream bands these guys are a LITTLE out there musically, so maybe they are good because they are a gateway drug into more experimental music?
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i like their music. i love anthony green in the sound of animals fighting, especially.
as far as his legit band goes, my parents actually love circa survive. i bought my mom their new album not too long ago.
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I guess compared to most mainstream bands these guys are a LITTLE out there musically, so maybe they are good because they are a gateway drug into more experimental music?
yeah no. remember how everyone said Harry Potter was going to inspire a whole new generation of readers and then none of them read a thing after the last book came out?
bad underground music works the same way.
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delete post plzzz
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Do you guys like the darkness?
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yeah no. remember how everyone said Harry Potter was going to inspire a whole new generation of readers and then none of them read a thing after the last book came out?
bad underground music works the same way.
i think i agree but what are you even basing this on???
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i think i agree but what are you even basing this on???
goons lol.
nah just people I ran into in college. knew a girl who wouldn't listen to tom waits because I THINK MY DAD HAS A CD BY HIM but conversely had every yellowcard cd and was anticipating the next eagerly.
I think if you are INTO MUSIC you invariably create some degree of taste, but if you don't really get into music and basically your music collection is a bunch of singles, then its likely you're gonna like shitty things.
god im not good wiht words today!!!
basic point is that assuming SLIGHTLY BETTER MUSIC will eventually open the person up to good music is fallacious for the same reason marijuana as a gateway drug or harry potter as a reading revolution is flawed; they LIKE whatever the gateway is, they don't necessarily want anything better (better than weed??????)