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Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Aten on August 26, 2008, 10:45:06 am: So no my sisters want their own internet, I figured I could split mine instead if them buying a separate service. Ok, so I have a "TP-Link (TL-SF 1005D) fast ethernet switch". The main cable goes IN and then 2 cables come out, one goes to my PC and one to theirs, however, if I connect to the net first, they cant, and if they connect first, then I cant.

Am I using the right stuff? Can it even BE split like that?
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Mama Luigi on August 26, 2008, 10:48:30 am: You need a router (http://compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworkhardware/f/routervsswitch.htm).

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Routers for home networks (often called broadband routers) also can join multiple networks. These routers are designed specifically to join the home (LAN) to the Internet (WAN) for the purpose of Internet connection sharing. In contrast, neither hubs nor switches are capable of joining multiple networks or sharing an Internet connection.
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: goat on August 26, 2008, 05:05:30 pm: If you want to use a hub or switch, you need to purchase an extra IP from your ISP, which would probably end up costing more per month than if you had just gotten a router.
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: pburn on August 26, 2008, 08:13:48 pm: ....How do you not know what a router is out of curiousity?
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: goat on August 26, 2008, 10:49:05 pm: How can you ask someone how they don't know something?
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Bobberticus on August 27, 2008, 05:44:55 am: Quote from: goat on August 26, 2008, 10:49:05 pm
How can you ask someone how they don't know something?
perhaps he is trying to make a point about gutts' attitude sometimes in the RPG Maker forums ;)
(Or maybe I am wrong!)
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: ATARI on August 27, 2008, 05:59:53 am: my names aten and i'm #1 rpgmaker

seriously though thats acting pretty gay there psyburn
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Aten on August 27, 2008, 07:28:36 am: Well, I'll satisfy your curiosity, I know what a router is, but that wasn't my question, my question was if it could be done with a switch, (and since mine wasn't working then maybe a different kind of switch that COULD work).

Thanks goat, that extra IP thing was exactly what I feared, guess its time to look for a router :\
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Barack Obama on August 27, 2008, 09:47:22 am: Quote from: Gutts on August 27, 2008, 07:28:36 am
Well, I'll satisfy your curiosity, I know what a router is, but that wasn't my question, my question was if it could be done with a switch, (and since mine wasn't working then maybe a different kind of switch that COULD work).

Thanks goat, that extra IP thing was exactly what I feared, guess its time to look for a router :\

Goat's right.
I would suggest you get the WRT54GL from Linksys, it's a great router and if you feel like geekin' out one day you could put the 'Tomato' firmware on it and pretty much eliminate the little dropped connection problem that almost everyone has with nearly every router on the consumer market.
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Mama Luigi on August 27, 2008, 11:38:11 am: Yes... my router drops my connection occasionally...

and I too have a linksys router. Explain more about this 'Tomato' firmware.
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on August 27, 2008, 02:49:39 pm: No. Linksys is shit. Get another brand of router.
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: ATARI on August 27, 2008, 03:15:52 pm: TRENDnet makes a pretty cheap one and its worked great for me so far
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: JohnnyCasil on August 27, 2008, 11:55:37 pm: When I was in college I used a switch in the one apartment I lived in without buying a separate IP address. It worked just fine for me. This (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416836711&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=3671122279B07) is the switch I used.
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: pburn on August 28, 2008, 12:19:51 am: What the fuck is this tomato thing because my connection keeps dropping.
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Barack Obama on August 28, 2008, 12:30:43 am: Quote from: Psyburn on August 28, 2008, 12:19:51 am
What the fuck is this tomato thing because my connection keeps dropping.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato_firmware
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Carrion Crow on August 28, 2008, 09:16:07 am: Our linksys just died I wouldn't recommend it. I speak to my friends on MSN at at least 2 or 3 of them have constant problems with their wireless linksys routers.

We have a buffalo router that cost next to fuck all and it's range and quality are fantastic.
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Christophomicus on August 28, 2008, 11:32:38 am: I use D-link if that helps and its never fallen over.

Just throwin' that out there.
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Alec on August 28, 2008, 12:48:02 pm: same here although my wireless could be stronger. I'll swear by d-link.
Title: Internet splitting?
Post by: Grogrog on August 28, 2008, 04:53:36 pm: DD-WRT is also another custom firmware. Why are you guys asking about this when you could just google it?

Basically Tomato and DD-WRT are custom firmwares you can flash onto your router, that gets rid of the brand firmware, and gives a whole lot more options. AKA it turns a residential router into a full grade router (at least software wise). It gives you a shit ton of options, that most routers won't give you, for example you can turn up the routers wireless frequency output to broadcast farther. You can literally turn it up so high that it will fry your router. :)

Like whoever said, if you feel like geeking out, go for one of the two. :)