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Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Parker on September 01, 2008, 10:49:17 pm
Okay! So, first things first. I've been a huge fan of Pop-Punk my entire life. It's the music that I most identify with. Screaching Weasel, MxPx, New Found Glory, Bad Religion, The Ramones, The Movielife, Green Day, Pennywise, No Use For A Name, Lifetime, The Offspring, Blink-182, Sum 41, Lagwagon, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. And all throughout my life I've run into people who have a HUGE barrier up against anything with the word "Pop" in it. That's all fine and good, but they've hardly given any of the genre's a chance at all. I think that's pretty lame, because Pop Punk has a lot more to offer than it's marshmallow front suggests.

The first thing I kinda want to point out about Pop Punk is that it has it's place and it serves it's place and the people that play it realize this.

Subject A: The Wonder Years (http://www.myspace.com/thewonderyearspa), who bill themselves as "Realistic Pop Punk". They sing about things that are actually happening to them, things they've learned, and they're real. It's refreshing, to me, to find REAL lyrics. They're not pretentious, they're not trying to be anything that they aren't, and their music reflects that. It's energetic, hopeful, and fun. FUN. Read these lyrics:
There is something about the simplicity of those lyrics that is really... Full of hope. I can relate to it. These guys know their place. To make fun, energetic music that everyone can relate to. They're not pretending to be something that they aren't (TOOL), and it's really, really refreshing. (felt like i just wrote that o i did hwat) It's fun music.

Also, read this interview (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=318583).
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What do you say to people who think your lyrics are “stupid?” Are these people destined for greatness due to their wonderful ability to scowl and take themselves too seriously?

I mean, let’s be fair, the lyrics on Get Stoked On It! are pretty stupid. I’m not trying to be Thoreau, which I suppose is an issue to some, but we’re just having fun. I understand that everyone has to hate on something. I mean we fucking hate pigeons, hippies, and the Pittsburgh Penguins. I guess they hate hanging out and having a good time and shit. Next time, we’ll try to write a CD in the form of a doctoral dissertation on Friedrich Nietzsche.

Subject B: Blink-182. These guys don't need any introduction. They also have a pretty bad reputation among almost everybody on the internet (digg, apple, ron paul, tool, wii360). And, No, Blink-182 is not the most talented group in the world. Not even close. But they were fantastic pop-song writers. VERY catchy, fun and energetic music. And they didn't take themselves too seriously (even in the later days, for the most part). They were out to have a good time and it really shows in their music. Listen to "Dumpweed", or "The Rock Show". Hits everything on the checklist. Fun, energetic, catchy, reletable. Put this on at a party and try not to have a good time.

Subject C: Pop Punk shows. If you've never been to a Pop Punk show and at least TRIED to have fun with it, you're really missing out. Jumping around, screaming the lyrics, laughing, smiling, and just having a blast. Most of the hundreds of Pop Punk bands I've seen in my life have all been extremely energetic up on stage, and when they're having fun, and you're having fun, who cares that they're power chords? Who cares that there is a 13 year-old girl screaming the lyrics along with you?
Also, this is the case with almost EVERY show ever but everyone really looks out for each other. Someone falls down, there's five people there helping you up. Your glasses fall off, there's ten people pushing other people aside looking for them on the ground. It's a community.
And contrary to popular belief, Pop Punk bands don't really make much money. VERY few Pop Punk bands are in it "for the money". Most bands barely make enough to make it to their next show in the next town, and I really admire that. They believe in their music.
With that said, there are a LOT of crappy Pop Punk bands that have no talent and suck the life and image out from good Pop Punk acts. Stay away from these bands.


I'm going to write more about this later, but in the meantime, put a Pop Punk CD in your car, roll the windows down, and have a good time. Commence bashing.... Now!
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: cowardknower on September 01, 2008, 11:04:38 pm
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Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Shepperd on September 01, 2008, 11:06:13 pm
Pop all you want, a huge amount of those bands are not punk at all, the only thing punk about them is that they just say they are punk because it sells
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: ThugTears666 on September 01, 2008, 11:18:11 pm
Pop Punk is probably my least favorite genre in the world, every year I hear about fifty bands which sound exactly the same it's ridiculously repetitive. The same boring drumming, the exact same guitar riffs UGH. This is why I used to hate punk because I thought it was all like this, but its actually just Pop Punk I think. Basically its very similar to what is happening with Emo at the moment in which you hear about ten bands come out all sounding really similar and making it into the top 40 charts. The worst is when the band members are like 30 years old and they still sing about high school shit or when the band isn't even from America and yet they sing in a American accent.

I listened to The Wonder Years for 20 seconds and they had that exact same boring sound I hate.


Lol but Shep they have the punk attitude, they have done 2 DIY U.S Tours and 2 DIY Europe Tours. IM JOKING Don't do this here Shep, we understand your opinion but we are not fucking having another genre debate please please please


Also I read this on their Wikipedia: "Mike Kennedy was given a facial while he was sleeping during senior week 2005."  By Facial do they mean cumshot? (please no)
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Alec on September 01, 2008, 11:22:21 pm
yeah shepperd i don't think pop punk has ever technically been punk.

Most pop punk sucks shit, but occasionally some good shit comes around.
you could check out Josephine Collective

EDIT: yeah and green day are awful by the way.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: ThugTears666 on September 01, 2008, 11:32:46 pm
Even though I hate pop punk, have you considered this JOJO: http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=5404.40
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Bravo on September 01, 2008, 11:34:13 pm
hey man f you tool are great


and as I read the list of bands you mentioned it got funnier with each one you mentioned. especially when you said, blink 182, who I've laughed at since like 7th grade back when they were cool.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: XxSylverxX on September 02, 2008, 12:28:09 am
if you like these things you should be lobotomized, they are too catchy to be allowed to be circulated.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Parker on September 02, 2008, 01:00:32 am
Quote from: Bakafura on September 01, 2008, 11:32:46 pm
Even though I hate pop punk, have you considered this JOJO: http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=5404.40
Yeah, I would actually love to do that. I would also love to do one on Second Wave Emo(OH SNAP, SHEPPARD ATTACK).
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Barack Obama on September 02, 2008, 01:31:44 am
This is the kind of shit you hear blasting when your girlfriend manages to drag you into that reeking Hollister store at the mall, I can almost smell that cheap fucking cologne by listening to that wonder years band.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Shepperd on September 02, 2008, 01:32:26 am
"oh snap, shepperd attack".. jojoface you're an idiot.

and it's ok I'm not going to debate, don't really have the time for this stupidity.

btw "pop-punk" sucks bad, it is strictly commershil and bland. Unoriginal, poor themed, just teenager stupidity. It is music for the masses, and that's not cool.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Parker on September 02, 2008, 01:40:52 am
Quote from: DJ Soup on September 02, 2008, 01:32:26 am
btw "pop-punk" sucks bad, it is strictly commershil and bland. Unoriginal, poor themed, just teenager stupidity. It is music for the masses, and that's not cool.
Music for the masses is not cool... What does that even mean, man? What, all Pop music is terrible? All musicians that want to reach large audiences are "not cool"? It's totally fine that you hate Pop Punk. It's probably just like Nu-Metal for me.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Blitzen on September 02, 2008, 01:44:34 am
I've always liked Rufio because they are faster and a little more technical than most other bands of the same subgenre but that's pretty much it. They are cool guys too I met them once. They are broken up now though.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: ThugTears666 on September 02, 2008, 01:50:09 am
I'm sitting here waiting to lock this topic. Shepperd fuck up, Everyone fuck up. I'm not reading another annoying debate.


Now lets continue :)
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Parker on September 02, 2008, 01:53:04 am
You met Rufio, man? That's awesome. I never got the chance to see them play, but I've had Perhaps, I Suppose... on repeat ever since 8th grade or so. Good stuff.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Barack Obama on September 02, 2008, 01:58:06 am
Public Image Ltd. is my favorite pop punk band
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Blitzen on September 02, 2008, 02:06:04 am
Yeah I've seen Rufio probably a half-dozen times in concert. Last time I saw them was a winter tour in 2005 I think... I like Out of Control, Above Me, Science Fiction, thier Like a Prayer cover... you know most of the crap that everyone's heard from them.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: headphonics on September 02, 2008, 03:06:34 am
Quote from: DietCoke on September 02, 2008, 01:58:06 am
Public Image Ltd. is my favorite pop punk band
is this another troll????
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: cowardknower on September 02, 2008, 03:16:08 am
http://www.myspace.com/silianrailband

This is a pop punk band !!!
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Puppet Master on September 02, 2008, 03:30:42 am
I haven't been into this stuff for a few years, but occasionally some of it winds up in my CD player again. Although I'm not going to be one of those "Pop-Punk is shit, not punk, etc. etc." people, I will say it is not one of my favorite genres of music and that it hasn't even been remotely good for like 10 years.

I think the best this music can possibly get is the early to mid 90's Epitaph stuff. So I feel that it's kind of past it's prime.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: blood hell on September 02, 2008, 04:16:33 am
Quote from: conchfeld on September 02, 2008, 03:16:08 am
http://www.myspace.com/silianrailband

This is a pop punk band !!!

ive been meaning to ask you is your band still active?
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Barack Obama on September 02, 2008, 06:26:16 am
Quote from: headphonics on September 02, 2008, 03:06:34 am
is this another troll????
completely serious
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Vale on September 02, 2008, 08:55:15 am
Quote from: DJ Soup on September 01, 2008, 11:06:13 pm
Pop all you want, a huge amount of those bands are not punk at all, the only thing punk about them is that they just say they are punk because it sells
Extreme deja vu!

Yeah, I don't like pop-punk either (if it's not 80's/early 90's pop or electro-pop, it generally sucks) but I think I have two or three such songs on my iPod (does AFI count?).
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Blitzen on September 02, 2008, 09:16:13 am
I think early AFI is more streetpunk and later AFI is more emocore. They might have one or two songs that fall into a more pop-punkish sound from Sing the Sorrow (Girls Not Grey, Celluliod Dream?) and December Underground (Summer Shudder, Killing Lights) though.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: DarkPriest on September 02, 2008, 10:11:14 am
This guy has a music taste that is outside the norm in this forum!!!!

QUICK ATTACK AND CASTRATE HIM!!!!!!!!!!

I will have none of this POPPUNKshenanigans in my Music Forum.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Bravo on September 02, 2008, 01:14:58 pm
^what he said because the only reason to hate music is because it is uncool in the current circle you're in.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: cowardknower on September 02, 2008, 01:29:42 pm
Quote from: Tophue on September 02, 2008, 04:16:33 am
ive been meaning to ask you is your band still active?

Nope.  New band, though-- see sig.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Vale on September 02, 2008, 03:34:20 pm
Quote from: Bravo on September 02, 2008, 01:14:58 pm
^what he said because the only reason to hate music is because it is uncool in the current circle you're in.
What

Sorry I am not listening to songs about furry-loving and gangbanging
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Bravo on September 02, 2008, 03:54:34 pm
its okay
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Puppet Master on September 02, 2008, 06:52:57 pm
Quote from: conchfeld on September 02, 2008, 03:16:08 am
http://www.myspace.com/silianrailband

This is a pop punk band !!!

No offense, but that cover of Come on Eileen was ... blasphemous,
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: ThugTears666 on September 02, 2008, 10:19:21 pm
Quote from: DarkPriest on September 02, 2008, 10:11:14 am
This guy has a music taste that is outside the norm in this forum!!!!

QUICK ATTACK AND CASTRATE HIM!!!!!!!!!!

I will have none of this POPPUNKshenanigans in my Music Forum.

This isn't the old gw where everyone circle jerks over dream theater, we are just sharing opinions. Sorry for not liking music because I simply don't like it. No one is mentioning anything about 'what good music is', we are simply sharing individual taste.

I know gw music forum broke your spirit awhile ago, but this isn't really happening on that level anymore.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Kaworu on September 02, 2008, 10:47:44 pm
if GW still was a circlejerk then every single topic would be about porcupine tree like it was a few years back, because they still seem to be the most popular here.

Also I really don't like this kinda music, it's really boring and is generally written for the sole purpose of being a commercial product as opposed to expression, and being one of them crazy fools who prefers the artistic and/or instrumental side of music this really holds zero redeeming value to me.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Barack Obama on September 03, 2008, 12:28:18 am
Quote from: Bakafura on September 02, 2008, 10:19:21 pm
This isn't the old gw where everyone circle jerks over dream theater

How the hell did you guys get into that dorky shit anyway?
I know its called GAMINGWORLD but holy shit that stuff was like the soundtrack to mom and dad's basement
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 03, 2008, 01:03:30 am
Quote from: DietCoke on September 03, 2008, 12:28:18 am
How the hell did you guys get into that dorky shit anyway?
I know its called GAMINGWORLD but holy shit that stuff was like the soundtrack to mom and dad's basement

it served the purpose of getting people into music they wouldn't hear otherwise but yeah it was really ridiculous how that happened, and I can only think it was a combo of just EVERY ADMIN liking dream theater and nerds.

Quote from: DarkPriest on September 02, 2008, 10:11:14 am
This guy has a music taste that is outside the norm in this forum!!!!

QUICK ATTACK AND CASTRATE HIM!!!!!!!!!!

I will have none of this POPPUNKshenanigans in my Music Forum.
Quote from: Bravo on September 02, 2008, 01:14:58 pm
^what he said because the only reason to hate music is because it is uncool in the current circle you're in.

these are stupid posts and while the other ones saying UGH...THIS BAND REPRESENTS ALL THAT IS WRONG aren't much better, at least they are based in some degree of established truth whereas yours are just whining with no justification.

seriously ugh this band is pretty terrible and while you could have picked a worse topic to claim some elitism in, this one is in the running.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 03, 2008, 01:04:04 am
great I just said nothing for like a paragraph that wasn't already clear, GUESS THE CHEMO IS CLEARING UP FEELIN GBETTER BACK TO BUSINESS.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: headphonics on September 03, 2008, 01:35:46 am
is your cancer gone yet
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Sludgelord on September 03, 2008, 01:39:12 am
you could have picked a better topic to whine dp. i mean pop-punk? pick your battles dude.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Bravo on September 03, 2008, 02:14:09 am
Quote from: Pidgeotto221 on September 03, 2008, 01:04:04 am
great I just said nothing for like a paragraph that wasn't already clear, GUESS THE CHEMO IS CLEARING UP FEELIN GBETTER BACK TO BUSINESS.
yeah and you also picked like the only two posts that were sarcastic
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: headphonics on September 03, 2008, 02:23:31 am
i mean, dp was clearly being sarcastic, but that's why what he said was dumb to begin with!
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Bravo on September 03, 2008, 03:09:40 am
yeah fair enough, i mean, there' snot really a point in derailing topics, but sometimes expressing an opinion can do that, especially when that opinion is 'i hate this kind of music!'

on topic though, I have The Offspring's greatest hits cd, its pretty good, though I haven't listened to it since I stopped liking them.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: ThugTears666 on September 03, 2008, 04:43:28 am
Quote from: DietCoke on September 03, 2008, 12:28:18 am
How the hell did you guys get into that dorky shit anyway?
I know its called GAMINGWORLD but holy shit that stuff was like the soundtrack to mom and dad's basement

Hahah well I hadn't really listened to much music so I was very easily convinced when people told me JOHN PETRUCCI IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD but yeah I wasn't as into it as other people and the vocals never did click fully. Metallica had that special place in my heart, "REMEMBER THAT BIT WHERE LARS PLAYS DOUBLE KICKS LOL? HE IS SOOO GOOD" .

I'm way different now anyway wu tangrulz
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Parker on September 03, 2008, 05:31:11 am
Quote from: Bravo on September 03, 2008, 03:09:40 am
though I haven't listened to it since I stopped liking them.
I'm curious as to why you 'stopped liking them'.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Barack Obama on September 03, 2008, 01:32:18 pm
Quote from: Bakafura on September 03, 2008, 04:43:28 am
wu tangrulz
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: cowardknower on September 03, 2008, 02:22:58 pm
oh hey, I like the offspring.  Sorta.  They have some good songs (staring at the sun, and it feels, dammit i changed again).
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 03, 2008, 02:38:13 pm
is incubus pop punk because they are tolerable....

Quote from: Bravo on September 03, 2008, 02:14:09 am
yeah and you also picked like the only two posts that were sarcastic

dp was being serious, he has a chip on his shoulder about this stuff.

Quote from: headphonics on September 03, 2008, 01:35:46 am
is your cancer gone yet

one more chemo treatment and then a surgery prolly.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Bravo on September 03, 2008, 02:42:37 pm
Quote from: JOJOFACE on September 03, 2008, 05:31:11 am
I'm curious as to why you 'stopped liking them'.
Mostly changing musical taste. From what I can remember of them they still have good songwriting, and the Kids Aren't Alright is a pretty great song. I'm sure listening to it again will not be the worst thing ever, and it might be a nice change of pace from what I'm currently interested in (Magma, King Crimson, Tool, heavy metal, jazz, prog rock, etc) but probably what will also happen is I'll get bored after four or five songs. That's probably the reason I don't listen to them anymore is that 1 i overlistened way back when and 2 the songs are too simple to keep me interested for too long.

holy crap intelligent discussion


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dp was being serious, he has a chip on his shoulder about this stuff.
in that case dp you need to open your third eye, as some comedian once said

and incubus is not tolerable more than cutting your nails with blunt nail clippers is tolerable
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 03, 2008, 02:52:48 pm
i dunno i just listened to a bit of science and it was at least trying new stuff unlike most of pop punk. not a fight i really want to have tho.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Kaworu on September 03, 2008, 03:41:01 pm
I think incubus are just one of them plain old modern rock groups or something, I can't recall a specific genre being tacked onto them.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Bravo on September 03, 2008, 10:01:52 pm
Good job steel, picking your battles. That's smart, conserve energy for the real fight ahead.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Barack Obama on September 04, 2008, 12:00:41 am
Quote from: The Octave Doctor on September 03, 2008, 03:41:01 pm
I think incubus are just one of them plain old modern rock groups or something, I can't recall a specific genre being tacked onto them.
PARDON ME WHILE I BUUUURRRRST INTOOOOOOO FLAMES
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 04, 2008, 01:15:25 am
Quote from: Bravo on September 03, 2008, 10:01:52 pm
Good job steel, picking your battles. That's smart, conserve energy for the real fight ahead.

i dont even get this, is this sarcasm.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Bravo on September 04, 2008, 01:30:23 am
i'm completely serious, i'm congradulating you on your decision to not engage in every argument, because some thing don't really matter and you are able to differenciate between them. that's a sign of maturity, also i'm being a dick don't worry about it
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Goji on September 13, 2008, 12:58:38 am
i'm really glad you mentioned the wonder years, jojoface. i love those guys, that band. they're fun and i'm all about that. i just found out the other day a classmate of mine is cousins with the bassists. i was wearing one of their hoodies, hahah.

i like pop punk, but a lot of it's really trendy. a lot of them do a lot of the trendy mallcore/metalcore screaming and breakdowns and whatnot that ruins it. even the wonder years is guilty of this, unfortunately.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: tuxedo marx on September 13, 2008, 04:51:51 pm
Quote
Yeah, I would actually love to do that. I would also love to do one on Second Wave Emo(OH SNAP, SHEPPARD ATTACK).
which one's the second wave because back in the day I was pretty badly into taking back sunday's first album!
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: headphonics on September 13, 2008, 04:57:28 pm
well first wave is like fugazi and sdre and shit so i imagine second wave would be like the bands that were around in 98/99.  that was around the time jimmy eat world put out clarity, and that was a pretty big album in that scene, but it was also different enough from what emo originally sounded like that it i'd call it the second wave.  so yeah probably like late 90s and early 2000s
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Parker on September 13, 2008, 08:19:05 pm
Yeah. Well, it's more mid-90's to early 2000's. Jimmy Eat World's Clarity is a huge album in the genre, but bands like Christie Front Drive, Boys Life, Cap'n Jazz, The Appleseed Cast, Braid, Knapsack, Jawbreaker, Mineral, Texas Is The Reason, and Sunny Day Real Estate dominated it. First wave is more like Rites Of Spring and stuff.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Goji on September 15, 2008, 11:17:50 pm
speaking of cap'n jazz and the appleseed cast (this guy toured with them), anyone who likes talented folky acoustic music should check out mike kinsella's acoustic solo work, owen.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Parker on September 16, 2008, 04:36:10 am
listen to cap'n jazz, american football, joan of arc before you listen to owen, though.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: headphonics on September 16, 2008, 05:06:55 am
Quote from: JOJOFACE on September 13, 2008, 08:19:05 pm
Yeah. Well, it's more mid-90's to early 2000's. Jimmy Eat World's Clarity is a huge album in the genre, but bands like Christie Front Drive, Boys Life, Cap'n Jazz, The Appleseed Cast, Braid, Knapsack, Jawbreaker, Mineral, Texas Is The Reason, and Sunny Day Real Estate dominated it. First wave is more like Rites Of Spring and stuff.
really you think so?  i would group sdre with fugazi/rites of spring (i could not think of their name when i made that post) as being first-wave shit.  they didn't really sound exactly like them but i identified them much more with the initial movement than with the one that came like five years later.  maybe you are right though i don't listen to emo at all pretty much.  also the problem i have with second wave shit is that a lot of it sounds really laughably homogeneous.  there are bands that are a CUT ABOVE THE REST like capn jazz and american football, but really so many of the BIG EMO BANDS were pretty fucking unexceptional.  people just seemed to take whatever they could get.  but yeah second wave emo is seriously like some of the most formulaic music i have ever listened to.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Goji on September 16, 2008, 10:50:07 pm
Quote from: JOJOFACE on September 16, 2008, 04:36:10 am
listen to cap'n jazz, american football, joan of arc before you listen to owen, though.

oh, i saw owen first, ha. all of those bands are good imo (american football<33) but i saw mike kinsella on tour with the appleseed cast and acute so i found him prior to all his group work.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2008, 01:10:22 am
I actually saw that tour. He was pretty good. Acute was pretty terrible, and The Appleseed Cast blew me away, as always.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Goji on September 18, 2008, 07:10:59 pm
yeah, I really wasn't fond of Acute, but mike kinsella killed it and the appleseed cast did pretty great too. i couldn't get over how laid back the show was, considering i typically frequent hardcore and metal shows.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Vellfire on September 19, 2008, 12:42:54 pm
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If this sea of metaphoric bullshit stays, I won't sink.

wow

I wanted to say something in this topic but it was kind of hard after reading this in the lyrics in the first post.  That's one of the cheapest, worst lines I've ever read in a song.

"HEH...A SEA...OF METAPHORIC BULLSHIT..."
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: GaZZwa on September 19, 2008, 04:20:50 pm
I haven't read this topic at the risk of it being another argument about how pop-punk isn't punk and how much of a contradiction that is etc etc. I did however search the topic for the name 'The Thermals', and since it hasn't been mentioned, I will say this.

THE THERMALS. They're a real good band. Certainly check all the right punk boxes fo sho. Yet, the pop sensibilities their music embues also leads one to hover the pen above the pop box too. What a quandry indeed. I saw them last year. They were fantastic. I also met the bass player. She was nice. Here be a song.



Also has Ted Leo been mentioned? Because the same really applies to him. He's awesome.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Mongoloid on September 20, 2008, 09:30:54 pm
Man, how did I miss this topic.

I'm a huge fan of poppunk, I really like NOFX and Goldfinger a lot.
It just kinda sucks, and it's evident in this topic, pop punk suffers a lot because it doesn't have its own name. It's like any conversation about pop punk will be turned into a genre fight within minutes. Even people who listen primarily to pop punk are half the time saying "eh this band is good but this band is a little too poserish for me."


PS. i think TFT has a simple plan song on his myspace.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 20, 2008, 09:31:54 pm
ted leo rules, and he'll drink with you after a show according to magma king.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: local_dunce on September 20, 2008, 10:39:34 pm
I like how every one of these "genre" topics starts with shep coming and saying "THIS IS NOT THE CORRECTLY LABELLED GENRE."

way to go you're a dick.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Alec on September 21, 2008, 03:37:09 am
i think it's commonly pop rock too maybe more fitting?

EDIT: Although I guess pop rock is broader and includes a lot of alt shit too.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Marmot on September 21, 2008, 10:07:16 am
i still like dream theater

i really like dream theater's stream of consciousness. i also like a lot other music though. i like a lot of shitty street punk bands. i also like can and other trippy bands. i think i like everything, even country. i used to dislike rap but i like GZA a lot.

actually i think i dont like pop punk. its pretty gay and reminds me 7th grade girls. i like real raw punk with people that can¿t really play their guitar.
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Marmot on September 21, 2008, 10:09:03 am

this is a pretty cool real punk song. i hate the skinhead subculture (because all subcultures are really gay) but the music they listen is pretty cool
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Marmot on September 21, 2008, 10:13:16 am

fascista por siempre
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 21, 2008, 02:15:13 pm
wasn't stream of consciousness a fan made album or am I misremembering fucking DREAM THEATER.

I seriously want all the hours I listened to them back.

hey steel what you listening to?
just hte whitest shit ever!!!
Title: Pop-Punk
Post by: DS on September 21, 2008, 02:32:17 pm
its an instrumental song on train of thought. probably my favorite dream theater song (well i only like a few anyway).