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Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 13, 2008, 04:12:37 am
So, Spore is out, and I just installed and started playing.
I've finished the molecular evolution stage and am about to embark on the land beyond...

Here's a documentation of my evolution.
The gameplay is very simple. You attack things and eat them if carnivore, or eat plants if herbivore, or eat anything if you have omnivore abilities (mouths or feelers or a toob mouth thing... I was mostly carnivore since I unlocked the herbavore bits later in the evolution)
http://www.team-captin.com/art.php?s=0&c=Spore&a=

Here's my about-to-walk-on-land evolution... Wish me luck!
(http://www.team-captin.com/art/Dudesoft_Leg_Evolution.gif)

If you have Spore, post your creations!
Title: Spore
Post by: Tau on September 13, 2008, 04:54:38 am
I would make a species so amazing they would be the reason Waldo is hiding!

How is the game I'm still unsure as to get it or not. Does it get tiresome after a while or does it live up to seven years of hype?
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 13, 2008, 05:01:11 am
So far, it lives up to the hype. I probably should have included the information in the topic...

Anyway, the molecular stage plays exactly like flOw for PS3. You just swim around eating things. When you get strong enough, you mate to evolve and add spikes or whatever... Keep eating and you just get bigger and bigger and bigger until you can grow legs. It doesn't take long.

Also, there are 'parts' you can find by killing creatures with them. Like a jet-like squid propulsion system, or fins. Gathering these you can use them during evolution.
When building a creature you're restricted to your evolution points which you get by growing bigger or killing other creatures.

Now that I'm on land, I have to go meet other species to either befriend or obliterate them. To befriend you sing or dance or whatever they do to earn their trust. Or you eat them. Befriending gives you brain power and killing gives you -- I don't know. I killed one race and it gave me Parts. So does befriending. So... Yep.
Too early to explain this area yet. Seems alright. I've found some bird creatures. I'm going to find a way to get wings. My main creature is a centaur... so winged would be pretty damn cool.

(http://www.team-captin.com/art/Dudesoft_Leg_Evolution_2.gif)
Title: Spore
Post by: DoctorEars on September 13, 2008, 06:58:12 am
One thing I found a little random/unsettling (I suppose) about the game, was the fact that your creature can start off looking like something, then END UP COMPLETELY DIFFERENT at endgame.

For example, I had this centaur looking creature, a bit like yours, at the beginning/midway through creature stage.

When I reached Space Stage however, my creature looked like a human. You can change far too much at each evolution you make.
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 13, 2008, 07:02:04 am
this is true. I'm now at a winged wolf human...

Edit...

Uh, so I'm doing my best to stick true to the continual evolution.
However, that means various features get better or worse. Currently it has like these huge arms with spiked crests on the end.
Title: Spore
Post by: Boulvae on September 13, 2008, 07:12:37 am
Well... realistically we'd never get past bacterium stage if time line evelution stages were acurate in this game. But from what I hear you inevitably become humanoid to some degree, or that could just be us shaping them that way on instincts.
Title: Spore
Post by: goat on September 13, 2008, 09:34:34 am
This game was definitely a letdown. Evolution is fun, and seeing what you've created move is entertaining till you realize that there's almost no depth to the gameplay. You're a cell and you eat till you grow, then you're a land animal and you kill or ally with other species till you grow a brain, then you kill or ally with other villages till you grow a space program, then you kill or ally with other planets till forever because thats the entire endgame and there's too many galaxies and planets to have a definite end to the game. Almost makes you want to start another game just to be able to evolve again, but then theres all the boring parts between evolutions...

here's my creation (http://www.zshare.net/info.html?18388241-b2942f22b154b302ce076200229e9835) if anyone is interested.


Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 13, 2008, 09:35:49 am
Wow. I was on the final tribe of tribal stage... and stupidly sent my full force at them. Died, and have to do, hours later, the entire tribal stage over again...
Title: Spore
Post by: big ass skelly on September 13, 2008, 02:18:32 pm
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Title: Spore
Post by: Ryan on September 13, 2008, 03:23:20 pm
yeah it's really shallow and kind of boring. really a huge letdown, i've been waiting for this to come out for a few years but it's just not that fun! customizing your buildings/vehicles/spaceships do absolutely nothing, and some stages (tribal, civ) are just hideously boring.
Title: Spore
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 13, 2008, 05:57:28 pm
So far, it lives up to the hype.

no it doesn't.

even if you like it, it doesn't. the hype was pretty ridiculous.
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 13, 2008, 06:07:54 pm
no it doesn't.

even if you like it, it doesn't. the hype was pretty ridiculous.

This is absolutely true.  I mean, I've enjoyed it quite a bit, but I'd be a HUGE FUCKING LIAR if I said it lived up to the hype.  I don't think any game is CAPABLE of living up to the hype of Spore.
Title: Spore
Post by: Rowain on September 13, 2008, 06:30:18 pm
Quote from: From Wikipedia's Spore Entry
Will Wright reaction

In an interview published by MTV, Spore designer Will Wright responded to early lukewarm reviews and criticism that the phases of the game had been dumbed-down and so were too simple by explaining:[69]

We were very focused, if anything, on making a game for more casual players. “Spore” has more depth than, let’s say, “The Sims” did. But we looked at the Metacritic scores for “Sims 2″, which was around 90, and something like “Half-Life“, which was 97, and we decided — quite a while back — that we would rather have the Metacritic and sales of “Sims 2″ than the Metacritic and sales of “Half-Life.
—Will Wright

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spore_(game)

This really ticked me off. Spore, from the basic premise, should've been more than a "casual" game. it's about evolving an entire fucking civilization, what's casual about that? Leave the casual to the gay Wii/Nintendo DS spinoffs for soccer moms. The dudes who've been following this game for the past HALF DECADE didn't want a casual game, but I guess Wright did. And that's frustrating.
Title: Spore
Post by: goat on September 13, 2008, 06:30:36 pm
The hype was astounding. Even after watching the ultra simplistic gameplay in the hour long presentation, I still wanted to play it. Now that I realize what I was looking at was THE WHOLE GAME, I feel like my excitement I had for it was all just a waste.

EDIT: I would say sims 2 is more complex than this, and that's not saying a lot. I really think the people who created the game should be forced to play it more than one time through so they realize how horribly boring it is after you get over the initial thrill of evolving.
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 13, 2008, 06:35:20 pm
The difference is, lots of non-gamers and casual gamers know about the Sims.  But I haven't seen many at all that have even heard about Spore.  On the other hand, non-casual gamers were ready to preorder this game the second it was announced.  So how is it going to help his sales if they made a game catering to a crowd that doesn't know it even exists???
Title: Spore
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 13, 2008, 07:52:03 pm
what's crazy to me is that the game was in dev for like FIVE YEARS. what was all that time used on!
Title: Spore
Post by: Cardinal Ximenez on September 13, 2008, 08:17:17 pm
what's crazy to me is that the game was in dev for like FIVE YEARS. what was all that time used on!

Bugs and perfecting the procedural generation's results, I would think.
Title: Spore
Post by: goat on September 13, 2008, 08:18:15 pm
Seriously, Halo and TF2 took several years to develop, and it shows in the quality of the product. Over the years, they evolved into completely different games than what they originally were shown as. Spore on the other hand, looks the exact same as when it was first presented. Spore didn't evolve at all, how ironic is that.
Title: Spore
Post by: UPRC on September 13, 2008, 08:30:39 pm
Wow. I was on the final tribe of tribal stage... and stupidly sent my full force at them. Died, and have to do, hours later, the entire tribal stage over again...
I can't image that being too much of a problem. You can breeze through tribal in less than an hour.
Title: Spore
Post by: NightBlade on September 13, 2008, 08:51:49 pm
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spore_(game)


Maybe that's his excuse for being incompetent?  :fogetshrug:

I don't know, I don't really play these types of games typically; though spore seemed interesting enough from what I had read. A shame it was a let down.
Title: Spore
Post by: UPRC on September 13, 2008, 09:14:34 pm
I was talking to a friend a few nights ago and we both agreed that where Spore starts to become repetitive, boring, unfun, or whatever is when the game takes the focus away from you actually being your creature, and more towards you just sort of... guiding them. Once civilization hits and you never even control one of your creatures again (I mean the creature itself, not the vehicles), I think Spore loses lots of appeal and the fun factor drops drastically.

Cell and creature are fun though. I like to just explore in creature stage. I like the starting planets, and I like it when they feel very expansive early on.
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 13, 2008, 10:25:40 pm
I was actually enjoying myself with this game! About halfway through the tribal era, it got to me... yeah this is gay.
So, you COULD work on food supply and raise your warriors to fight other tribes (and end up losing all progress if you die) OR learn all the instruments and play a stupid song game three times per tribe to win their hearts over.
Then the city customising was idiotic dull, like Sim City for the A.D.D.
When it came to war time... raise a religious army, and preach to the world. Who needs violence? Spread the good word of Spore to your neighbours.

Then you get a spaceship! What fun. We can make a brand new gummiship that takes three or four mousewheel scrolls to exit or enter atmosphere/solar systems... And then we enter the bulk of the game; playing God.


While this game falls on its face for being at all what it was hyped for, it has kept me entertained for a good few hours, and I'll probably keep playing 'casually' as they apparently want... but man.
The evolution was so gaytardic, to coin the word with Spore random name generator!

Give it up for the Dudesoftians though. The long arms sprouting like antlers from their foreheads was a sweet move in the evolution, and quite humorous when they decided to ignore their torso arms and use the long spider arms instead for all actions. (Learning to use weapons with that sudden spider-arm growth... I laughed).

All in all, if you want to join the unfortunate club I'm in, buy this game. Otherwise find some pirate copy. It's not worth it with all the other games coming out---and FORGET about game of the year award!
Title: Spore
Post by: yugi on September 13, 2008, 11:18:20 pm
I can sum the entire Spore game up in 6 words "Kill things or dance with them".
No seriously, that is the entire game.

First phase plays like Flow, carnivores eat things, herbivores eat plants. You grow bigger and eat bigger things.
Second phase plays like a very, very basic MMORPG. Carnivores go around killing and eating things to gain exp, herbivores go around dancing with things to earn exp.
Third (tribal) phase plays like "My first RPS" and was proaably designed for 2 year olds to play. It has no depth at all, no units, resource mangement, planning out your base or anything. You make as many unit as possible (6, then 9 and then 12), then either kill things if you are a carnivore, or dance with them if you're a herbivore. This stage literally took me about 10 minutes to do.
Fourth (civilization stage) is basically the tribal stage, only with robots and cities. Make as many robots as possible, and then go around either killing everything, or dancing with it.
Final stage is the space stage, and would you believe it, you either go around killing things (carnivores) or making friends with them (herbivores). This stage contains a little more depth than the others, but the depth is wasted on collecting silly little extras basically (now your planet can have pink water instead of blue water!!!).

This game basically sucks. If you enjoyed playing the Sims you might enjoy this game, otherwise you might play through it once (as the game as absolutely no replay value at all), which will take 3-4 hours at max, then you'll be bored of it and probably never play it again.
Title: Spore
Post by: Jester on September 13, 2008, 11:36:38 pm
uh, arent most games able to be summed up as "go around killing things"?

mario RUN AND JUMP ON STUFF

note: yeah spore is really vapid and shallow, but now that ive modded the space stage so i dont get "random" events literally every 5 minutes it is pretty cool
Title: Spore
Post by: Boulvae on September 14, 2008, 12:01:14 am
If I wanted a god game i'd play Black&White, which also doesn't live up to the hype but atleast I can actually have fun toying with my worshipers or just spending all my time playing with my avatar thing.

All of it's fun factor is you being a lone creature exploring a world stage. The tribe stage (and civilization stage) probably would've been more entertaining if you could directly control one of them as your personal whatever or have that as an alternative you could choose before you start a new gam (for both civilization, and tribe stage). Adding other things such as resource gathering would make more sense to me and seriously I would've settled for the (atleast) space stage to be about as interactive as the first Civilization game.

And... I had the feeling when they removed blood.
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 14, 2008, 12:45:38 am
Damn this sucks guys. I knew it wasn't going to live up to the hype, but I thought it would AT LEAST tide me over until LittleBigPlanet. Instead, I stayed up all night and beat the stupid game. :| Guess it's back to injecting WoW into my gameneed-vein for now.
Title: Spore
Post by: Boulvae on September 14, 2008, 02:20:42 am
Oh right, the only part that a creature needs period is a mouth of some sort or it'll starve to death.

Which means you could make a fleshy ball with a mouth and half ass it all the way to the end, and after beating it I could choose whatever stage I want now and play that stage as long as I like. So MAYBE there is some worth to this game after all.

EDIT: Wheres the natural disastor tag? You'd think that there would be one, considering how important the whole ecosystem thing is for something like this to work.
Title: Spore
Post by: Jester on September 14, 2008, 10:07:02 am
It's not really a bad thing for a mario or shooting game to be summed up into 3 words because you'd expect those games to be fairly simple. Whereas on the other hand Spore is supposed to be a god/evolution simulator so naturally you'd assume there would be more depth to it than just "kill things or dance with them".
oh i know, like i said it did turn out way too shallow for its own good, but still i found the sum up pretty ridiculous. like, in the space stage, it very much isnt just KILL THINGS OR DANCE (?) WITH THEM, srsly. you do got fighting and i guess dancing if you class crop circles as dancing, but you also got trade and alliances and terraforming and artifact hunting and all that shit too.

in fact i think there is TOO MUCH stuff packed into the space stage, it is kinda overwhelming.

i like these sum ups, tho.
vampire: the masquerade: BITE THINGS AND WALK
deus ex: HACK OR GUN
Title: Spore
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 14, 2008, 01:28:15 pm
pretty funny tho how velfarre and jester were the ones most hyped up about this game and are now the only ones defending it.

yea i remember the past how about it.
Title: Spore
Post by: UPRC on September 14, 2008, 01:50:48 pm
Well I was hyped to hell for the game too, and I will defend it but... After the game separates you FROM your creature and just makes you a guide of sorts, that's when the game becomes very bland.

There are freeware games better than Spore.. Pirate this. It's not worth $50 or more. From how much time everyone is spending on the game, $15 or $20 at most would be more reasonable.


Also Will Wright is being an idiot. "We didn't want reception like Half-Life." Okay, Will, so basically you wanted you game to succeed less??
"We wanted it to succeed like the Sims." I liked the Sims. Spore does not even compare to the Sims. At all, Will. At all.
Title: Spore
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 14, 2008, 01:53:06 pm
man saying there are freeware games better than it isn't really defending it.

fuck that's actually a burn if anything.
Title: Spore
Post by: UPRC on September 14, 2008, 01:55:34 pm
More entertaining, at least.. Spore is a blast for me in the first two stages, cell and creature.. But after that, man, I don't know what Will Wright and Maxis were thinking. There's just so little depth and so much room for improvement.
Title: Spore
Post by: Mama Luigi on September 14, 2008, 03:47:59 pm
Whoa whoa whoa... have you guys even made it to the space age? How far have you gotten in that? It get's quite a bit more entertaining and deep compared to the tribal and civilization stages.

Spore is in no way a bad game. The DRM is fucking stupid and the game does not meet up to the hype because there are some bland bits and customization of cities could have been handled better. That said, the product we have isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. Boring bits, yes. Flawed aspects, yes. Overall though the game rocks.
Title: Spore
Post by: Sredni Vashtar on September 14, 2008, 06:52:23 pm
I'm really lucky in that I have no time to play this game, so i get maybe 20 minutes of playtime in at a time.

Just enough time for me to start thinking 'wow this is colossally gay and repetitive' but then i have to go do something else.

edit: And it's not even that I'm disappointed. I was looking forward to this game almost solely because of the creature creator and to me the game sucks not relative to the hype, but totally on its own.
Title: Spore
Post by: the bloddy ghost on September 14, 2008, 08:20:42 pm
there was probably tons of content cut from this game because they didn't have time to put the finishing touches on them. i'm disappointed that you couldn't make a true flying or aquatic creature.

It's a fun game, but it didn't live up to the hype. but I haven't really played any game that has lived up to hype!
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 14, 2008, 08:41:05 pm
there was probably tons of content cut from this game because they didn't have time to put the finishing touches on them. i'm disappointed that you couldn't make a true flying or aquatic creature.

It's a fun game, but it didn't live up to the hype. but I haven't really played any game that has lived up to hype!

Going by the quote posted here, it wasn't so much that they didn't have time as it was that they didn't give a shit.
Title: Spore
Post by: Kaworu on September 14, 2008, 09:57:57 pm
I believe they actually had stuff finished off but DELIBERATELY cut it to appeal more to the mainstream market.

Also Spore is INSANELY BORING. I can't even get past the second stage without giving up out of boredom. Today was well I did have a fun experience fleeing from a giant behemoth, but then the game crashed. It's just I dunno, I'll give it a few more tries because I hear the later stages are kinda fun, but this is gay. I mean I didn't expect it to be Civ4, but jesus this is just bland. I can't see how the critics can give it more than a 70-80% rating.
Title: Spore
Post by: local_dunce on September 14, 2008, 11:31:57 pm
Alright! Well, I have completely ignored the hype for this game, I have not followed it at all. I think I am the only guy that has showed no interest in this game whatsoever since the moment it was announced. Even after watching the hour long tech demo I thought it looked pretty dumb, so this game has not been hyped for me at all and I had no intention of playing it until you all mentioned how much of a let down it was... then I decided to see for myself.

I've JUST got out of the cell stage and messed around a bit as a runaround creature. The Cell stage reminds of fl0w a LOT, as in it feels like it would be a complete rip off if this game hadn't been in development for such a longer period of time. The thing that is REALLY SURPRISING though is how clunky the controls are compared to flow. The creature is awkward to control and not very fluid at all, it felt like fl0w but with horrific "toon" graphics and a bad control system. Also GREAT WORK MAINSTREAM GAME MAKERS THAT I CAN COMPARE YOUR GAME TO A FLASH GAME AND SAY THAT THE FLASH GAME COMES OFF AS THE VICTOR: SUCCESS!

I booted up the creature creator (which i had heard so much about) as a cell and tried to make my little blob more interesting, but save for ADDING A HORN or ELECTRIC ANUS BULB there was not much to do. It was pretty funny that my creature looked almost identical to my brothers when we both finished the cell stage, except for the fact that I had givin my cell BIG HORNS and he gave his like, speed fins.

So I evolved onto land after this tediously long fl0w-a-like and ran around for a bit. Nothing really happened, I bumped into another creature and ate it, opened up the editor and had a REAL PLAY this time. The creature creator tool is pretty neat when you get more interesting parts, and I did make an interesting creature but I invaded some creatures nest and ate them all, I don't want to do this for a long period of time, my DNA bar is going up slowly and I just want to get more creature parts and move on.

This stage of the game is not even as interesting as THE SIMS and THE SIMS is fucking boring!!! Anyway I gave up for a bit at this point and watched Dexter.
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 14, 2008, 11:41:32 pm
Tonight, I'm going to make the TFT creature.
Title: Spore
Post by: Evangel on September 15, 2008, 03:34:03 am
I played the Creature Stage on a friend's PC today, and was very unimpressed with the gameplay.  It's pretty shitty that they would put all of this time into making such an elaborate creature creation system and massive worlds yet leave you with like a handful of possible things to do (eat, dance, fuck, kill). It was about the most simple and watered-down gameplay I've ever seen, actually.  Hopefully Space Stage or whatever is more interesting than what I played today, a monkey could play that.

I don't know how Will Wright's gonna say this was geared towards "casual gamers".  That worked with The Sims because it's like playing house on your computer, a lot of people casually enjoy that.  But with the coverage of this game, and a fanbase who was going nuts for a while, you're looking at more than just a casual crowd playing this game. 
Title: Spore
Post by: Boulvae on September 15, 2008, 04:28:17 am
Actually it's alot funner when you can pump your game full of creatures that all kill eachother on sight regardless of their choice of food.

I geuss we'll have to wait for the mods to come out for this to get any better (space stage is definantly interesting I did like altering planets and stuff but I still want a natural disastors tab, or natural disastors period), cause I ain't waiting for an expansion thats gonna include the water and true air creature parts that i'm sure is to come if this sells well.

Seriously the Creature creator is all I need, i'm going back to that.
Title: Spore
Post by: Raimiette on September 15, 2008, 12:25:11 pm
I quite like this game.  It's simple but it's addictive.  I bought it and I don't regret it (yet).

I have just gotten to the Civ stage and got my ass handed to me so I think I need to add more attack parts to my monster (I was trying to be nice to everything but that doesn't seem to be going well).

I don't like this stage as much as I like the last one though.  I met this pickle looking monster who had like 300hp and befriended him and he single handedly kicked the ass of everything that attacked me.  I figured he would be gone once I entered the Civ stage but he's still  here (he's hanging around in the fenced off area beside your main hut (he's not as useful now though :( ).

I think this game is going to be a lot better once the modders start doing their thing though.
Title: Spore
Post by: esiann on September 15, 2008, 01:45:03 pm
Whoa whoa whoa... have you guys even made it to the space age? How far have you gotten in that? It get's quite a bit more entertaining and deep compared to the tribal and civilization stages.

Spore is in no way a bad game. The DRM is fucking stupid and the game does not meet up to the hype because there are some bland bits and customization of cities could have been handled better. That said, the product we have isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. Boring bits, yes. Flawed aspects, yes. Overall though the game rocks.
i'm the revered or something, 2/3 of the way through the space age, and it's still pretty boring. you know what would go great with those gear-shaped canyons? chocolate-swirl oceans! drop some cute mountains and you're good. ^_^

but yeah i pissed off some huge empire and now i get pirate attacks every five seconds, and that is the only thing keeping the space age somewhat interesting. even they suck though

i don't know, i can't think of a reason to replay this.
Title: Spore
Post by: local_dunce on September 15, 2008, 02:33:30 pm
SPORE SCORE 0/10

WELL DONE WILL.
Title: Spore
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on September 15, 2008, 03:20:25 pm
apparently this game is full of DRM stuff.
Title: Spore
Post by: Ragnar on September 15, 2008, 03:45:27 pm
I bet EVO is a lot more fun than this game

Edit: E.V.O.

Edit: E.V.O. The Search for Eden or whatever
Title: Spore
Post by: Dale Gobbler on September 15, 2008, 03:47:37 pm
If only they could take ideas from spore and make a new Evo game, with like cell stages and stuff.
Title: Spore
Post by: Shadow Kirby on September 15, 2008, 04:42:01 pm
I bet EVO is a lot more fun than this game

Edit: E.V.O.

Edit: E.V.O. The Search for Eden or whatever

Yeah. Spore needed to more like E.V.O. and less like the sims.
Well, I'll wait for LBP cause I know what I'm going to get. A simple platformer that I can customize the hell out of and not just broken promises like Spore was.
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 15, 2008, 04:43:07 pm
Seriously that is a great idea.  I really DO think I enjoyed E.V.O. more than Spore, with the exception of the creature creator.  E.V.O. with Spore's creator would be amazing.
Title: Spore
Post by: Ragnar on September 15, 2008, 04:47:44 pm
Will Wright should give me money

Edit: I remember how trippy the first level of EVO was where you were a fish, I can only imagine being a bacteria in the very first stage and then fighting some anthropomorphized microorganism that's the big boss of that level because he has a NUCLEUS

Edit: Oh wait the final boss of EVO is like that, brain fart for a second
Title: Spore
Post by: UPRC on September 15, 2008, 04:51:23 pm
EVO was an awesome game and that is what I compared the cell stage to. Creature still sort of retained that gameplay, but it was, overall, more sluggish feeling.

And like others have said, this game needs some modding.
Title: Spore
Post by: Rajew on September 15, 2008, 06:01:03 pm
Man, I am really kind of dissapointed this game turned out to be so bad. I really wanted to recreate some of the pikmin creatures you know?
Looks as though it is not worth it now
Title: Spore
Post by: Pulits on September 15, 2008, 06:50:39 pm
What a disappointment. I've waiting this game since ever and it turns out to be a pile of shit. :(
Title: Spore
Post by: Sarevok on September 15, 2008, 07:07:55 pm
EVO was incredible. Random jellyfish helps you get around the world and you thank him by eating him THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR OM NOM NOM

Spore is fucking boring. It scored 90+ everywhere because reviews were written on 5 hour plays. They promised about 8.5 hours to get to the space stage, but it only takes 4 (if you take your time). There's NOTHING to do at all once you're in space, really. Sure you can make alliances, but what's the point? Allies don't do ANYTHING to help you. You can setup trade routes, but what's the point? You spend 3 million to buy a planet which is never going to make you more than 50k sporebucks. After you fully upgrade (takes 3 or 4 hours), there isn't a single enemy in the galaxy (including the grox) which can stand up to you. Yawwwn.

I have said this to a few people already but the thing that pisses me off the most about spore is that the player has a -completely- different set of rules to play by then the computer, especially in space. Not being able to defend your planets remotely, or send fleets to attack other empires makes your giant empire really, really, really shit and weak. Why does every empire get 500000000000 ships, per planet, and the player only has one ship in their 500 planet empire? Fucking yawn.
Title: Spore
Post by: Nigel on September 15, 2008, 07:26:54 pm
I don't own the game personally, but i played it on my friends laptop and it seems... nifty?
but not something i'd invest a lot of time in completing as i would a product of squeenix, just something i'd fool around with until i could make  a decent shredder to kill all your ninja turtles i know you've been working on
i'll pick it up some day when it's in th 7.50 bin at walmart or something
Title: Spore
Post by: Kaworu on September 15, 2008, 07:50:52 pm
now at tribal stage, I am unsure if I want to carry on because it's mad dull. I could do these tedius boring challenges or... I could be playing stalker and restarting my crashed computer every five minutes. The later is the most fun.
Title: Spore
Post by: Jester on September 15, 2008, 08:23:19 pm
tribal takes like half an hour, civ takes about that or just over, then you're at SPACE

SPACE, kaworu. SPACE.

SPACE.
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 15, 2008, 08:46:26 pm
but not something i'd invest a lot of time in completing as i would a product of squeenix
Title: Spore
Post by: goat on September 15, 2008, 10:21:16 pm
i'll pick it up some day when it's in th 7.50 bin at walmart or something

Don't waste any money on this game. That's how bad it is.
Title: Spore
Post by: NightBlade on September 15, 2008, 11:01:58 pm
For god's sake, you people make it sound "Superman 64" bad, when all it is is mediocer.

After... "obtaining" a copy and getting to the civlization phase, it's worn a bit thin, but at least give credit for the creature editor.

Title: Spore
Post by: UPRC on September 15, 2008, 11:20:16 pm
For god's sake, you people make it sound "Superman 64" bad, when all it is is mediocer.

After... "obtaining" a copy and getting to the civlization phase, it's worn a bit thin, but at least give credit for the creature editor.



All editors, really. They did a great job with them.. You can make some really creative creatures, buildings, and vehicles.
Title: Spore
Post by: Fire Mage on September 16, 2008, 12:34:56 am
tribal takes like half an hour, civ takes about that or just over, then you're at SPACE

SPACE, kaworu. SPACE.

SPACE.
but isn't that like the worst part of the game?  :bravo:
Title: Spore
Post by: goat on September 16, 2008, 12:39:43 am
Superman 64 was horribly made. This is very well made, it just lacks any sort of complexity or challenge. The creature creator was the only good feature of the game, and anything done outside the editor feels like it's just a gimmicky minigame to include your custom creations. For a creature designer, it's very easy to use, albeit limited. But as a game, that they assume people will consider this "fun" is insulting at the very least.
Title: Spore
Post by: the bloddy ghost on September 16, 2008, 02:56:22 am
i am a bad gamer; i enjoy this game. :(

does that mean I'm like those people who enjoy tales of phantasia
Title: Spore
Post by: Dale Gobbler on September 16, 2008, 03:10:50 am
i am a bad gamer; i enjoy this game. :(

does that mean I'm like those same people who enjoy tales of phantasia

no. no, your not on the same level as people who enjoy one of the best games ever made. Your on the Mediocre game level. I hate spore.
Title: Spore
Post by: NightBlade on September 16, 2008, 04:34:35 am
i am a bad gamer; i enjoy this game. :(

does that mean I'm like those people who enjoy tales of phantasia

I guess so!

According to some, you're even STUPID for liking it.
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 16, 2008, 06:45:01 am
The TFT Creature
(http://www.team-captin.com/art/The_TFT.gif)
Title: Spore
Post by: goat on September 16, 2008, 07:47:01 am
what is TFT?

by the way, if you thought spore was oversimplified, try spore mobil

http://megagames.com/news/show.cgi?&idtype=software&database=233&section=screens&
Title: Spore
Post by: Sarevok on September 16, 2008, 11:16:03 pm
That looks more complex than the pc tide pool
Title: Spore
Post by: Boulvae on September 16, 2008, 11:24:07 pm
Oh god just give us another SIM Earth already... With that creature creator being one of the main features.
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 16, 2008, 11:32:10 pm
Man that is an IDEA there, make it more management and less single-player MMO.  It would be awesome to see the creatures interbreeding and have different ways to affect how they come out as far as worldbuilding goes.  Fuck, I used to love the Dogz and Catz games because I loved breeding the animals and seeing the different aspects the children got from the parents (especially when you downloaded breeds and got like HALF MOOSE HALF PIG BABIES), doing that with Spore would be insane possibilities.
Title: Spore
Post by: HL on September 16, 2008, 11:45:25 pm
apparently this game is full of DRM stuff.

Ya you can only install it 3 times. It's dumb. Like how does that stop piraters at all? HEH YOU CAN PIRATE IT BUT ONLY INSTALL 3 TIMES!!!! SHOWED YOU NOW.

what is TFT?

Former mod.


This game is pretty OKAY if you weren't hyped up for it I think. Not OMEGA SUPER AWESOME GREAT d^_____^b, not SUPER DRAT TERRIBLE, just PRETTY HORRIBLY average. Would I rec anyone to buy it? If they like this type of thing sure. It is not a collosally bad game and the people going DONT SPEND MONEY ON IT OMG are silly tbh. If you're joking (I have!) that's good. If not, well, find better reasons to not spend money. I didn't spend money on it (PIRATING HEH) because it is ridden with DRM, and I don't support products that use DRM. All DRM winds up doing is harming the real consumers, since pirates wind up getting around it in 5 seconds, like they did with Spore (hell, before it came out it was cracked). But if you don't care about DRM or such, and vaguely like this type of thing, I think you should buy it if you're sure, but if not wait for a bit of a price drop.

Title: Spore
Post by: Ragnar on September 17, 2008, 01:37:56 am
Why does the mobile version of Spore look better than PC
Title: Spore
Post by: Kaworu on September 17, 2008, 10:58:10 am
Fuck, I used to love the Dogz and Catz games because I loved breeding the animals and seeing the different aspects the children got from the parents (especially when you downloaded breeds and got like HALF MOOSE HALF PIG BABIES), doing that with Spore would be insane possibilities.
Female gamer stereotypes. 100% accurate.
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 17, 2008, 12:28:41 pm
Female gamer stereotypes. 100% accurate.

not really because i don't like square enix

also i haven't played those games since i was like 12
Title: Spore
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on September 17, 2008, 02:30:26 pm
not really because i don't like square enix

also i haven't played those games since i was like 12

But you make an exception for Kingdom Hearts right?

I mean you have to! There's a fucking Lion King level!
Title: Spore
Post by: Kaworu on September 17, 2008, 03:28:01 pm
Simba gives Velfarre an erection.
Title: Spore
Post by: goat on September 18, 2008, 02:35:33 am
Ya you can only install it 3 times. It's dumb. Like how does that stop piraters at all? HEH YOU CAN PIRATE IT BUT ONLY INSTALL 3 TIMES!!!! SHOWED YOU NOW.

Former mod.


This game is pretty OKAY if you weren't hyped up for it I think. Not OMEGA SUPER AWESOME GREAT d^_____^b, not SUPER DRAT TERRIBLE, just PRETTY HORRIBLY average. Would I rec anyone to buy it? If they like this type of thing sure. It is not a collosally bad game and the people going DONT SPEND MONEY ON IT OMG are silly tbh. If you're joking (I have!) that's good. If not, well, find better reasons to not spend money. I didn't spend money on it (PIRATING HEH) because it is ridden with DRM, and I don't support products that use DRM. All DRM winds up doing is harming the real consumers, since pirates wind up getting around it in 5 seconds, like they did with Spore (hell, before it came out it was cracked). But if you don't care about DRM or such, and vaguely like this type of thing, I think you should buy it if you're sure, but if not wait for a bit of a price drop.



I wouldn't even recommend it if they "like this kind of thing" because even people who love the premise will get bored of it when they find out how repetitive the game is. I can't say I know anyone who looks for shallow, simplistic games that are just unimaginative and amateurish attempts to incorporate other games's playstyles, anyways. Actually, I wouldn't recommend it at all. This game isn't bad by opinion, it's bad by fact. I say not to waste the money because it's not worth paying money to become bored. 

If by some horrible luck, you are able to find someone who you would actually recommend this to, there are a thousand other games that would be more enticing to them, that you should mention in it's place.
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 18, 2008, 11:58:41 am
But you make an exception for Kingdom Hearts right?

I mean you have to! There's a fucking Lion King level!

FUCK no, I have the Lion King on DVD, why do I need a bad CGI version of the same thing except with Mickey and Goofy and some Square Enix characters??? If anything that's disgusting.
Title: Spore
Post by: Lars on September 18, 2008, 12:13:30 pm
velfarre do you cry when you read lion king fanfics based on the kingdom heart pride lands level?? :(
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 18, 2008, 12:34:44 pm
idiot everyone knows lion king fanfics never feature any real lion king characters they're all original half-dragon half-angel somehow still lions but bright blue characters

i am making this up but it is probably true actually (main point:  i like the lion king a normal amount, it's just my favorite childhood film...i don't have anything weird about it or anything)
Title: Spore
Post by: DoctorEars on September 18, 2008, 12:37:12 pm
I could, and I want to, say something quite sarcastic right now, but I won't.

Also how did the topic go from Spore to Kingdom Hearts/Lion King? I haven't really been paying attention to many of the posts.
Title: Spore
Post by: big ass skelly on September 18, 2008, 01:41:24 pm
Who gives a shit, spore sucks and the lion king rocks

i'm not even jokeposting I love the lion king, I got your back velfarre
Title: Spore
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on September 18, 2008, 02:03:38 pm
You still like the classic Lion King for the SNES/Genesis right? (I was pretty much expecting you to hate Kingdom Hearts regardless. I was just messing with you.)

Hakunah Mattatah level FTW (except those god-damned log parts!).
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 18, 2008, 02:51:53 pm
You still like the classic Lion King for the SNES/Genesis right? (I was pretty much expecting you to hate Kingdom Hearts regardless. I was just messing with you.)

Hakunah Mattatah level FTW (except those god-damned log parts!).

I just recently bought the Gamegear version because I had never played it, it is p. great.  I am not kidding when I say I think I enjoy it more than I enjoyed the tribal and civilization stages of Spore.

Although I did play through the civ stage in Spore with a flying lion (http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-DurTahar|2265926878%3Asast-500009682205%3Apg-20) I made, with a top hat, moustache, and a bunch of robotic kinds of parts (gears, bolts, etc.).  They were religious-based.

Also, I don't know if it's a known problem, but did anyone else notice that ALMOST ALL of their creatures were gone?  I didn't choose to delete them when uninstalling the creature creator, but they were gone from my list and gone from my profile.  The files are probably still on my hard drive, but I haven't checked.  They weren't anything OBSCENE that would require deletion, it just didn't port most of them to the game or put them on my profile.  A WEIRD selection of them are still there, but that's all.

And it doesn't seem to care that I have a ship that's just a pair of tits.  It's amazing to see that in the water (One of the opposing factions had penis-shaped buildings which is why I made boob-ships to preach my religion to them).
Title: Spore
Post by: Shadow Kirby on September 18, 2008, 03:58:11 pm
so spore is apparently the most pirated game of all time. There is apparently a 1:1 ratio of legal purchases to illegal downloads of the game. Nice to see that EA's anti piracy DRM spyware bullshit worked out so well.

I hope this wakes up EA and they'll understand that people that bought the game wants to own the game and not just lend it for 3 installs and then "fuck you, gotta buy a new one".
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 18, 2008, 05:34:47 pm
Seriously, most people don't share PC games anyway.  Most people who aren't paying for it are just downloading it regardless.
Title: Spore
Post by: Eltee on September 19, 2008, 02:44:06 am
lion king is pretty swell

it is pretty violent at times too i like that

it has nazis too


my favorite childhood movie was some tom&jerry musical that kicked ass

but even being my favorite childhood movie i haven't seen it in like 7 years


oh the same





ps: this isn't about spore anymore it's about childhood movies

childhood >>>>> spore
Title: Spore
Post by: Izekeal on September 19, 2008, 03:57:41 am
Zero Punctuation - Spore (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/218-Spore)
Title: Spore
Post by: Ragnar on September 19, 2008, 01:23:50 pm
Also fuck Will Wright doesn't have green hair after all

Edit: How's the generative Eno soundtrack anyway
Title: Spore
Post by: Mama Luigi on September 19, 2008, 01:37:17 pm
Come on guys... Spore isn't thaaaaat bad.
Title: Spore
Post by: goat on September 20, 2008, 01:06:12 am
I just recently bought the Gamegear version because I had never played it, it is p. great.  I am not kidding when I say I think I enjoy it more than I enjoyed the tribal and civilization stages of Spore.

Although I did play through the civ stage in Spore with a flying lion (http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-DurTahar|2265926878%3Asast-500009682205%3Apg-20) I made, with a top hat, moustache, and a bunch of robotic kinds of parts (gears, bolts, etc.).  They were religious-based.

Also, I don't know if it's a known problem, but did anyone else notice that ALMOST ALL of their creatures were gone?  I didn't choose to delete them when uninstalling the creature creator, but they were gone from my list and gone from my profile.  The files are probably still on my hard drive, but I haven't checked.  They weren't anything OBSCENE that would require deletion, it just didn't port most of them to the game or put them on my profile.  A WEIRD selection of them are still there, but that's all.

And it doesn't seem to care that I have a ship that's just a pair of tits.  It's amazing to see that in the water (One of the opposing factions had penis-shaped buildings which is why I made boob-ships to preach my religion to them).

Yea, mine only saved about 5 of my evolution forms. I knew I evolved WAY more than that, as evidenced by looking at my evolution chart.

Also, try out Lion King for genesis if you haven't. It's the best one imo.
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 20, 2008, 01:39:34 am
I'll emulate it sometime, for sure.
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 20, 2008, 10:17:56 am
Man, I loved the Pride Lands stages of Kingdom Hearts 2. That was some fun! You learn to run, then sprint--- it's one of the fastest traveled stages, until you learn Fly. And there was this huge ass boss battle, that rivals the Mulan dragon fight--which was fucking sweet--- along side having Turtle Goofy spinning by you and the voice acting... I dunno. I loved that stage. It made the game just that much better, even so KH2's world selection was already awesome. (Tron, Nightmare Before Christmas, Mulan, Beauty and the Beast, Winnie the Pooh, Hercules, Pirates of the Caribean, etc)

Some Dudesoft creations...

TFT (http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Dudesoft%7C2267871330%3Asast-500074344498)
Dinodude (http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Dudesoft%7C2267871330%3Asast-500074904605)
Dude Craft (http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Dudesoft%7C2267871330%3Asast-500058672123)
Dudewing (http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Dudesoft%7C2267871330%3Asast-500058280862)
Dudemobile (http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Dudesoft%7C2267871330%3Asast-500058055456)
Dude Hall (http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Dudesoft%7C2267871330%3Asast-500058036410%3Apg-20)

Oddly, I can't find MY race. The ones I play with... The Dudesoftians are not in the Dudesoft Dictionary! WTF?
Title: Spore
Post by: Eltee on September 20, 2008, 01:32:45 pm
I hate you, Dudesoft.


Sporepedia doesn't want to load for me. Odd.



I still hate you Dudesoft.
Title: Spore
Post by: Ryan on September 20, 2008, 04:15:58 pm
Man, I loved the Pride Lands stages of Kingdom Hearts 2. That was some fun! You learn to run, then sprint--- it's one of the fastest traveled stages, until you learn Fly. And there was this huge ass boss battle, that rivals the Mulan dragon fight--which was fucking sweet--- along side having Turtle Goofy spinning by you and the voice acting... I dunno. I loved that stage. It made the game just that much better, even so KH2's world selection was already awesome. (Tron, Nightmare Before Christmas, Mulan, Beauty and the Beast, Winnie the Pooh, Hercules, Pirates of the Caribean, etc)

that sounds so gay. i'm so glad i never played any of the kingdom hearts games jesus.
Title: Spore
Post by: PTizzle on September 20, 2008, 07:43:04 pm
so spore is apparently the most pirated game of all time. There is apparently a 1:1 ratio of legal purchases to illegal downloads of the game. Nice to see that EA's anti piracy DRM spyware bullshit worked out so well.

It's pretty funny because I'm betting a lot of people pirated it because of the DRM. I'm certainly contemplating it because it's bullshit.
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 21, 2008, 02:11:41 pm
that sounds so gay. i'm so glad i never played any of the kingdom hearts games jesus.

Only real men play with Pooh Bear and help him and his furry friends solve minigames about collecting hunny and popping balloons.
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 21, 2008, 02:16:01 pm
Only real men play with Pooh Bear and help him and his furry friends solve minigames about collecting hunny and popping balloons.

:(
Title: Spore
Post by: Kaworu on September 21, 2008, 07:03:46 pm
kingdom hearts is singlehandedly the most homosexual game series of all time. Even I won't touch it with a fucking pole
Title: Spore
Post by: Bentobox on September 21, 2008, 08:51:50 pm
Lion King rocks, and spore was a letdown =_= I started playing it *jumps into the metaphorical ocean* hoping for depth *hits rocks and breaks neck* allas I was dissapointed.

(ps. I had a german copy of kingdom hearts, which made it more fun, yay for nazi goofy!)
Title: Spore
Post by: goat on September 25, 2008, 03:46:04 am
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
http://megagames.com/news/html/pc/eafacesclassactionlawsuitoversporesdrm.shtml
Title: Spore
Post by: Vellfire on September 25, 2008, 12:38:08 pm
Quote
Electronic Arts, a leading maker of computer games, defrauds consumers through its "Spore" game, which "completely wipes their hard drive" and replaces it with an undisclosed program that prevents the computer from operating under some circumstances and disrupts hardware operations, a class action claims in Federal Court.

wait what is this actually true or are they fucking stupid???

edit:  Oh, it's not that.  It's that that site completely took that quote out of context.

Quote
Even if the consumer uninstalls Spore, and entirely deletes it from their computer, SecuROM remains a fixture on their computer unless and until the consumer completely wipes their hard drive through reformatting or replacement of the drive.

I guess those people can't read.
Title: Spore
Post by: HL on September 25, 2008, 06:13:58 pm
so spore is apparently the most pirated game of all time. There is apparently a 1:1 ratio of legal purchases to illegal downloads of the game. Nice to see that EA's anti piracy DRM spyware bullshit worked out so well.

well real DRM that circumvents pirates is impossible at the moment anyways.

so its pretty dumb to do it in general

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
http://megagames.com/news/html/pc/eafacesclassactionlawsuitoversporesdrm.shtml

this has happened before, nothing ever happens.
Title: Spore
Post by: goat on September 26, 2008, 01:03:07 pm
Still hilarious to see just how horrible the DRM backfired, especially with how horrible the game was. They undoubtedly thought the game would be so hugely successful that they considered it as protecting their investment. That it's now the complete opposite is sweet, sweet irony.
Title: Spore
Post by: HL on September 26, 2008, 02:21:31 pm
yea but like I said, actual DRM is impossible at the moment. this is why i am against DRM right now, all you do is hurt the consumer. it is impossible to have DRM that is uncrackable, and the only way you can have DRM that I would support (ie: one that doesn't hurt legit consumers at all), would require so much reworking of OS's, game's, etc and involve a lot of changes that no one wants to do. You need a way to track at an unknown unchangeable key code level who everyone is, and bind games purchased using a key that is generated at only the exact moment it is needed, use the internet (not everyone has it.), and so much other stuff just to make "perfect" DRM.

EA is really dumb about this, and I wish more companies would do away with DRM. i mean come on, Spore had its DRM removed before it was released officially by piraters!

the only DRM system out now that actually works to some degree, is Steam. And even then it's easy to pirate single player games on it.
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 26, 2008, 11:50:22 pm
kingdom hearts is singlehandedly the most homosexual game series of all time. Even I won't touch it with a fucking pole

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Katamari series. Please tell! :)
Title: Spore
Post by: jaller141 on September 28, 2008, 10:35:34 am
I actually enjoyed this game all the way though...
Its simple, granted... and I didn't realize there was alot of hype for it... (had I not seen the Cad comic on it I woulda never looked twice at it)
But all in all, its a good game. Alot of customization thoughout the entire thing, gets a bit repeatitive, but so what? Every game does... look at any fps... Solve puzzle, shot guy... pick up glowy thing... kill boss... etc.
I played through the game 5 times already (trying different things as I went along... I like playing as an Omnivore... lots of kick ass abilities.)
but I guess its what you make of it... I find its a pretty free roam game... I don't HAVE to evolve, I could stay in the cell stage if I wanted to, or I can get to the space age and fly around until I reach the center of the universe. Its also alot less stressful then, say, halo or TF2... where if you suck, you're boned... while Spore is simple and easy to learn, and there's no pressure to make the best creature, or be the best Starship pilot.
Title: Spore
Post by: Eltee on September 28, 2008, 04:28:29 pm
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Katamari series. Please tell! :)
I am on a similiar wave thinking KH is the most homosexual series of history


but Katamari is classy and fun
Title: Spore
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on September 28, 2008, 06:04:45 pm
What is it when you call someone racist, except it isn't for a race but for homosexuals?
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Katamari series. Please tell! :)

Here we have a clear case of someone taking the negative connotation of the term "homosexual" and mistaking it for the literal one.

They are two different things you racist fuck!  (I agree that Kingdom Hearts is the most homosexual franchise ever to hit gaming history, but Katamari Damacy is good, wholesome, homosexual fun!)
Title: Spore
Post by: The Dude on September 29, 2008, 10:10:31 pm
Not sure why he got a warn for that, he's totally bang on with both accounts, I was just egging.
Kingdom Hearts is like, if someone is watching you play, you're embarrassed.
Katamari is like, if someone is watching you play they're like "wha, the fuck?" and in a few minutes "GET THE CAT! YOU'RE BIG ENOUGH NOW! nanananananana"