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General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: VinceP on September 20, 2008, 12:07:36 am
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I'm asking for advice for you guys out there who have gone through this process already.
I'm a Senior in high school right now, and I'm looking to go to college after I graduate this Summer. Since I was little my dream has always been to be a video game designer with my own company. Video game design doesn't really require (to my knowlegde) a specific type of degree. So I'm planning on majoring in Computer Science, and maybe a minor in business.
I've applied to about four colleges so far. (I live in Ohio, all of them are in-state). Miami University, Ohio University, Bowling Green State University, and Wright State University. My girlfriend has also applied to all of these colleges but Wright State. We both like them all very well and decided it would be nice if we could end up going together. Anyway, the problem is, I'm the first person in my family to actually apply to a four-year university. So no one in my family has been able to guide me or help me with this in any way, because they don't know anything about it. Up unil half a year ago, I didn't even know what an ACT or SAT was!
My girlfriend on the other hand grew up with her parents constantly pushing her towards college and pressuring her on her education. She knows a lot more about it in general than I do, so she's been very helpful in guiding me along. I'm just worried that things aren't going to work out so well and we won't be able to go to school together, and that will pretty much be it for us, which is heart-breaking because we've been together for about 4 years. When I first started high school I always had it in the back of my mind that I would go to college, but I never really acted on it. In fact, I had HORRIBLE grades. I went to a $5000 a year private high school. My parents withdrew me, deciding it was a waste of money, and sent me to a public school. My class rank after I withdrew was 55 out of 55.
After I went to a new school things gradually got better as I gained more maturity and took school more seriously. I finished my Junior year with a 2.9 GPA for the semester, and a cumulative of 2.0; not huge, but it was the proudest moment of my life. It was only this past summer that I started taking action to get into college. My problem now is that I don't meet some reccomendations for college admission. For example, most places require 2 years of foreign language. I hadn't taken ANY, just because I didn't know I needed it. So I signed up for Latin I this year, meaning I'll only have one year of foreign language. I also don't have an impressive Math background. I have a year of "Integrated Math" which is like prealgebra or general mathematics, a year of Algebra I, and have a year of Geometry. Most colleges reccomend Algebra I, II, and Geometry.
I could go on but this post is too long already. I'm just scared out of my mind right now that I'm just not good enough to get into the places I have my heart set on, even though I'm working hard as I can. My family always told me you can do anything as long as you put your mind to it. But I think I put my mind to it far too late.
So what do you guys think? What do you reccommend I should I do? Tell me about your own experiences with application. My high school never required anyone take foreign language at all, so I don't think it's fair to me that I could miss out on college just because I didn't know how things work.
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I want to go to film school, I want to apply for NYU Tisch. Thing is I know JACK SHIT about ANYTHING so I am screwed.
So yeah I'm in the same boat.
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psyburn apply to temple, you will get in guaranteed
edit: at some point in time we were the 4th best film school in the nation
edit2: or in philadelphia
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psyburn apply to temple, you will get in guaranteed
edit: at some point in time we were the 4th best film school in the nation
edit2: or in philadelphia
If I go to temple will I still have to do college papers and shit. If I go ANYWHERE for film do I have to do college papers and shit?
Also I still don't know how to do anything so deciding to go to temple does not help.
Also most of the people who apply to temple are shit.
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Roman I don't mean to sound like an angry white man but I appreciate your advice.
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Wow, well what exactly do you need help with? First of all, the internet is a helpful tool. Go to the website of the university that you would like to attend. I suppose you can check the necessary GPA, SAT scores, and other things that it looks for in prospective students. If it turns out that they won't accept you right away, then enroll into a two year community college, and take courses that transfer over. That is what I am doing, and I'll probably be studying pharmacology. When you go to community college, make sure you do as well as you can. Also, could you elaborate a little more on what exactly you would like to know?
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Yeah dude, you can't ONLY take film classes because you gotta complete core requirements which means PAPERS and shit, sorry dude.
edit: also you are most likely going to have to write papers about movies no matter where you go so you better SUCK IT UP PAL
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If I go to temple will I still have to do college papers and shit. If I go ANYWHERE for film do I have to do college papers and shit?
Also I still don't know how to do anything so deciding to go to temple does not help.
Also most of the people who apply to temple are shit.
if its accredited, ya. you'll have to do your basic english math science etc.
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I didnt know what I wanted to do for my career, so I went to a 2-year community college and then tranferred. It was pretty easy and got me into the college mindset. You could always call the colleges and ask to speak to a counselor or something.
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If your grades aren't great, it really isn't a big deal. Do well on the SAT or ACT, get a teacher you're kinda cool with to write you a letter of recommendation, write a convincing application essay, and send applications to as many colleges as you can think of. You may want to consider leaving out your whole dreams of designing videogames in your college applications too
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Speaking of game design, whatever happened to Lysander, the creator of "A Blurred Line"? Didn't he show some company his games and their success then instantly he worked for them? I don't know the whole story, hopefully someone can fill me in!
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joes post pretty much. sounds like you're in trouble on the gpa front but idk what those colleges have for avg gpa.
more importantly go to the best school, not the one your girlfriend goes to. KIDS THESE DAYS.
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okay listen up
if you live in ohio and you can afford it: GO TO OHIO STATE!!!! ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS EXCEPT MIAMI AND CASE WESTERN ARE A WASTE OF YOUR MONEY AND EVEN THEN THEY ARE BOTH TOO EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT YOU GET
(however with your grades unless you get like a 33 on the act you will not get in to the main campus and will get deferred to a branch or have to start a quarter late, but after 40 credit hours you can transfer to the main campus no questions asked as long as you have like a 3.0 or something)
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If you want to learn to do game design your best bet is Canada, i'm serious. We have a university over here with actual courses specifically for game design, any graphic designs actually. It's also a country right next door, but thats only if you can afford it.
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if you are going to grad school undergrad doesnt really matter tbh but i dont think you are going to grad school. if you want to design videogames take computer science classes, not shitty artsy fartsy classes
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Well, from your post you sound like a fairly intelligent guy. Sounds to me like you have enough in you to write an honest college essay describing what you've gone through and how you've grown as a person throughout your life. Colleges love to hear you talk about your growth and maturity as a person, so if you do a good job of convincing them that you know where you fucked up in life, where you suddenly woke up and realized "whoah, I can actually attend college!," and how and why you decided to take schooling seriously, you have a good chance of winning an admissions officer over.
Just don't mention your girlfriend or VIDEO GAMES anywhere
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Going along with the last post, I would recommend writing to specific admissions officers with questions etc. Find one that is really personal toward you and explain your situation and stuff. I'm at Ball State (IN) right now, but early in the spring I was writing a lot of questions to the and admissions counselor and she really helped me out and got me a lot of information. Be PERSISTENT as hell. Not annoying, but innocently persistent. They will recognize your situation and how much you want to gain a higher education. If they ask you what you want to do tell them about your aspirations in computer science (or graphic arts), not necessarily video game design. They might not look at that too highly based on your academic record. Other than that, keep striving man, colleges look at your senior year as well so hit it hard. You know that you can bring your GPA up you just have to do it. Get good grades and send more applications out. I would recommend a large public university just because they will cost you less and you have a better chance of entry. Don't fall back on a community college yet, keep working hard. Post more questions if you have them because I just went through this whole process.
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well my story breifly speaking goes like this:
I finished school with good marks. Did the IB exam (international cambridge exam) with enough points to get admitted to universities without having to do an admission exam.
By that point my career possibilities included: Biology, Medicine, Petrol Engineering, Nuclear Engineering, Business Management, Economy and International Relations.
Basically too fucking broad.
But since I'm such a high class guy (I'm not economically, but I am mentally) I wanted to go to the best and of course most expensive university in argentina.
That Uni is around 7 km (5miles) away from home so it was great.
That Uni would narrow my career choices to Business, Economy and International Relations.
I could enter directly because of my good IB results, however I couldn't pay that uni as it is way too fucking expensive to me. So I had to do 2 very good admission exams to get a scholarship.
By that time I was completely decided to go to that Uni, so if I failed i had no backup plan as this was all a month away from the Uni to start a new semester.
So I played my cards on the 2 admission exams, got great results and got a 75% scholarship (as high as can get). I then got a job at the library to pay the last 25%. (so it practically feels like I'm not paying the uni a single penny).
Then I decided to do Economy.
Now this Uni has a bunch of classes that last for around 3 semesters which are common for all careers. This allows you to get a feel of the uni and get a chance to change your career in case you change your mind.
So, at school I was excellent at maths, good at economy and bad at language.
At Uni I found out I was so fucking tired of numbers, wasnt good at economy and was good at language and literature. When I found out that the next semester I had to do Maths II, I said hell no and changed career and took International Relations (which doesnt have this).
Now.
International Relations is basically an extended vision of politics. It is very similar to another career, Political Science, but gives a heavier focus on foreign affairs and such.
And if there is something I knew nothing about in my whole life, that's politics.
I was raised in a completely apolitical family. Nobody talked about politics and I was living in a bubble. I never read the news and had nobody to really talk about.
That's why I chose International Relations.
I chose a career I know nothing about, but interests me.
Unlike Biology. At school, biology was my strength, my mum said I should be a doctor and such. Well, I know I could be a fine doctor as I have ease to understand medicine but it doesnt interest me.
International Relations is exactly the opposite, something that is absolutely not my strength but interests me.
And now I'm in my third year, and I learn a lot and really enjoy this. I still think politics is not my fort, but it really interests me and I think that's basically the best part of it. I get the motivation do look foward to my classes and such.
well cut the bla bla, that's a bit of my experience, hope it helped in some way.
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Thanks for all the input, guys. It's been helpful.
I've applied to 7 colleges so far. To each admissions office, I sent a letter which includes my college admission essay, a small record of my activities and job during high school, and an additional letter that talks about my academic record. I explained to them about my lack of foreign language credits, talking about the fact I am the first in my family to go to college, and that my high school never required any foreign language to graduate. My admissions essay consisted of what I want to do in college and beyond, why I believe I'm ready for college, and about my personal developments since I first entered high school as an immature kid.
Now I'm having all my transcripts sent off and sitting here with my fingers crossed.
I admit, a lot of the places I've applied to and actions I've taken are because of my girlfriend, just so we can be together. Yeah yeah, it's stupid. But I figure I really don't have much to lose by trying to stay with her, because there's nothing I could really miss out on. All the places she likes, I like just as well; they all have great computer science programs. Her and I recently had a long talk about it, and I told her it may end up that we can't be together because of my mistakes. She doesn't want to admit that I'm right, though.
Hopefully though, I'll get into at LEAST one of the 7 colleges I've applied to.
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for anyone, I would recommend going to a small college that's decently accredited and is known for having good professors. some people are apparently fine with going to huge schools where no one gives a shit about you and 90% of your professors blow gay dicks, so whatever interests you
If I go to temple will I still have to do college papers and shit. If I go ANYWHERE for film do I have to do college papers and shit?
Also I still don't know how to do anything so deciding to go to temple does not help.
Also most of the people who apply to temple are shit.
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Roman I don't mean to sound like an angry white man but I appreciate your advice.
tim and eric graduated from temple's film dept, I guarantee they will come back to give the kids a pep talk.
a couple of my pals go to temple too so idk, it's a pretty big school and the majority of people will be sorta shitty anywhere you go
yo roman do you live off of cecilbie moore or broad st you can PM it to me if yo u want
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some people are apparently fine with going to huge schools where no one gives a shit about you and 90% of your professors blow gay dicks, so whatever interests you
it prepares you for the real world and builds character kind of like killing an angry moose with nothing but a pair of pants and a steak knife duct-taped to your hand
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for anyone, I would recommend going to a small college that's decently accredited and is known for having good professors.
yeah, my uni is pretty great, it is very small, has several of the best intellectuals of my country as professors and is well accredited.
When a uni is small this means:
Professors actually get to know you, not only your full name, but if you go for it, chatting with them is no problem.
Access to the Student Union is simple.
Library is a friendly environment rather than full of strangers.
More known faces.
Easier to make friends with people of different careers.
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I think it's awesome that you've already started this, sending in apps, etc. It shows a lot of dedication (read: uh yeah I haven't even started >.< I'm a dumbass). I'd definitely listen to rpg's advice. Even if you don't get accepted into the schools your girlfriend might be sent to, you can probably find a good community college nearby, raise that GPA, then transfer in. I'ma relate a few things that I've been TOLD (just a senior too), so forgive me for any inaccuracies.
As far as I see, the entire community college transfer deal is underrated. First off, it's cheaper. Second, that first year of college is just your general ed anyway, and most colleges don't even let you take classes in your major till your junior year. You might as well take the SAME GENERAL ED classes in community college and pay less. Third, you get the same type of education. you have to learn the same stuff...you just pay less and get smaller class sizes in community college. Here in california the schools are so impacted that some uni students are SENT TO LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGES because class size was full -- and I bet they did better than the regular uni students. Also, if you're going to a community college right next to a university, chances are your professors teach at both places. SAME TEACHERS OMG. Fourth, it's EASIER to transfer in from a community college to a university than it is to go straight to the 4-year from high school, because you've essentially proved that you are more stable choice for the university than some stupid freshman.
The only thing that you ahve to worry about in community college is the general leniency in the atmosphere. A lot of kids tend to drop out of community college because there's less incentive to go to school. As long as you're dedicated though, you should do fine. I've heard people call community college a mere 'extension of high school.' But personally, in light of the pros, I wouldn't mind taking up the 13th grade.
So yeah, thus ends my speil on community/junior college.
I'd like to hear a good argument for going straight to a 4-year -- gotta know both sides of the coin. I'm also having trouble with girlfriend going to a different college -- she watns to go out of state and I want to stay in, but if colleges really offer the same majors I guess I wouldn't mind moving. what's wrong with this line of logic?
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So when exactly do college classes start for you guys (Juris and Vince)? Like mine started August 15th. Are you guys applying for Spring Semester?
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Classes here generally start around September -- all of my old-senior friends are in college already :(
We'll be applying for fall 2009.
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I'd like to hear a good argument for going straight to a 4-year -- gotta know both sides of the coin. I'm also having trouble with girlfriend going to a different college -- she watns to go out of state and I want to stay in, but if colleges really offer the same majors I guess I wouldn't mind moving. what's wrong with this line of logic?
Unless you feel like you want to marry your girlfriend, then I really think you should just go instate. There are so many other people out there (especially in college) that you can fall in love with.
Anyway, I am a senior also in highschool, but I really want to stay instate (mostly for tuition costs and stuff, but I also love Washington weather). I'm going to apply to UW Honors, which with a 3.989 (hopefully will get up to 3.999 this year), band/jazz band (sectional leader also), tennis captain plus varsity, went to districts in track last year and hopefully a captain, plus hours of community service, hopefully it will be a shoe-in.
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okay listen up
if you live in ohio and you can afford it: GO TO OHIO STATE!!!! ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS EXCEPT MIAMI AND CASE WESTERN ARE A WASTE OF YOUR MONEY AND EVEN THEN THEY ARE BOTH TOO EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT YOU GET
(however with your grades unless you get like a 33 on the act you will not get in to the main campus and will get deferred to a branch or have to start a quarter late, but after 40 credit hours you can transfer to the main campus no questions asked as long as you have like a 3.0 or something)
case isnt really that expensive for what you get, i don't think!
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So when exactly do college classes start for you guys (Juris and Vince)? Like mine started August 15th.
As did mine, interesting.
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...and most colleges don't even let you take classes in your major till your junior year.
um what. I am a freshman and am taking two classes in my major this year. Maybe my college is unusual, but there are hardly any restrictions on when I take gen eds vs. major requirements.
Now I want to know: is that unusual?
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My college won't let you DECLARE your major until sophomore year, but you can go ahead and be taking the classes for your major whenever (they just want people to figure out what they want to do the first year).
I don't see any reason to not get your major classes until the last two, that seems REALLY pushing it as far as time goes.
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Wow that is really weird. When I enrolled, I picked my Bachelor and my Major before I even started university and shit. I'm in first year second semester at the moment and I've taken 6 units related to my Major.
Then again, Australia, what a backwards country :woop:
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Yeah that does seem really weird. Universities are the REAL WORLD it's not high school anymore. Not allowing you to declare a major until second year seem a bit too much like "holding your hand." If you know what you want to major in then it should be fine with them!
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yeah i declared mine freshman year, but i think if you don't apply from the beginning to your major college, the university puts you in their first year college program which is maybe why you can't declare till sophomore year?
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For those that haven't declared their major until second year, how long is your course? I know that a couple of friends of mine made their three year course a four year course by taking a "University Preparation Course" (which I think is the biggest load of shit ever) beforehand that took a year. It was optional, I didn't take it. Maybe that's what they're doing for the above posters but making it mandatory and not optional?
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High school students fret so much about getting into colleges and all that and it's really silly and in three years you will be like GOSH I WAS SO SILLY!!!! Like not to put you down man but seriously that is how it is.
You are doing everything right and have nothing to worry about. You will get accepted somewhere regardless of your grades. It is pretty rare to get rejected on basis of grades when you apply early. Exceptions are when you apply to a state college's main branch (the one that says like University of Ohio without a city name after it) or a private school. I would bet you get accepted to at least 4 of your picks.
Also fill out a FAFSA right now jesus christ it is so sad how many people never apply for financial aid and then get screwed halfway through the term when they still haven't paid and get expelled or something. Make sure you go to the official site because there are lots of scammer sites out there that steal your information.
http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/
I DO recommend going to a less expensive and more convenient school because college is college no matter what. It only matters if you go to a school that is actually famous (like Harvard). A degree from any state school says "University of Wisconsin" or "University of Ohio" on it regardless of what campus you go to and nobody in the real world will seriously give half a damn which branch you attended.
Also yes it is maybe a little presumptious to pick a college based on where your girlfriend is going and there is a realistic chance you will break up and you will regret your decision, but if it is important to you right now and you have made a decision, stick with it and be proud of yourself! If something matters to you, don't be ashamed. She is obviously very important to you (also it is always magical when high school sweethearts marry and the rest of us are always jealous).
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for anyone, I would recommend going to a small college that's decently accredited and is known for having good professors. some people are apparently fine with going to huge schools where no one gives a shit about you and 90% of your professors blow gay dicks, so whatever interests you
tim and eric graduated from temple's film dept, I guarantee they will come back to give the kids a pep talk.
a couple of my pals go to temple too so idk, it's a pretty big school and the majority of people will be sorta shitty anywhere you go
yo roman do you live off of cecilbie moore or broad st you can PM it to me if yo u want
i live on french and 17th st, just a couple blocks off broad. did you hear about the cop that got shot yesterday? that happened pretty much right behind my house. i was about to take a nap and i heard the gunfire, it was nuts.
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Yeah that does seem really weird. Universities are the REAL WORLD it's not high school anymore.
lol no they're not, they're filled with kids living off of their parents' income. I remember busting my ass to put myself through school and I remember being pretty disgusted that almost everyone else my age that I knew had their lips firmly wrapped around the parental teat, a couple of them didn't even know how to open a checking account until they were around 20 years old. Many of them still mooch off of their folks because they chose some of the most worthless majors ever and never thought to seek out an internship while they were in bigkid playland.
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lol no they're not, they're filled with kids living off of their parents' income. I remember busting my ass to put myself through school and almost everyone else my age that I knew had their lips firmly wrapped around the parental teat.
Man, that's a great way to put it.
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Man, that's a great way to put it.
sometimes I think parents should get to choose their kids' majors because I would be really pissed off if I spent tens of thousands of dollars so my kid could get a degree in something like photography or art criticism.
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lol no they're not, they're filled with kids living off of their parents' income. I remember busting my ass to put myself through school and I remember being pretty disgusted that almost everyone else my age that I knew had their lips firmly wrapped around the parental teat, a couple of them didn't even know how to open a checking account until they were around 20 years old. Many of them still mooch off of their folks because they chose some of the most worthless majors ever and never thought to seek out an internship while they were in bigkid playland.
I opened a checking account in high school. My dad was there but I did the majority of the process, he just had to sign some papers because his name needed to be on the account.
Knowing so many people don't know how to do this makes me feel kinda awesome about myself even though it shouldn't (really it should make other people feel BAD about themselves)
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I opened a checking account in high school. My dad was there but I did the majority of the process, he just had to sign some papers because his name needed to be on the account.
Knowing so many people don't know how to do this makes me feel kinda awesome about myself even though it shouldn't (really it should make other people feel BAD about themselves)
that's the thing, it basically just amounts to going to the bank and asking. It blows my mind that there's so many people who are actually legally adults but are basically completely helpless without a monetary support line from mom and dad. Hell, when I was still in highschool I remember actually TEACHING a 19 yearold chick how to do laundry when I went to the university to visit one of my older friends.
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how the fuck do you not know how to do laundryiohdslfnslkfnk it is SELF EXPLANATORY jesus christ
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sometimes I think parents should get to choose their kids' majors because I would be really pissed off if I spent tens of thousands of dollars so my kid could get a degree in something like photography or art criticism.
Yeah, I found out about the Digital Media and Design program (computer science + art) here after I entered, and it sounded pretty cool but I figured my parents wouldn't want to pay so much for me to get a degree in THAT. They're already telling me MAKE GOOD GRADES OR YOU'RE TRANSFERRING BACK HERE, which is fairly reasonable considering how much this first year is costing. Man, why couldn't I have made it into Wharton? I would make so much money. Instead I'm studying engineering and will end up making half as much. :sad: Still, I try to make myself feel better knowing that my friend who's going to Princeton ($50,000+ per year, sans financial aid) is majoring in Comparative Literature, of all things.
how the fuck do you not know how to do laundryiohdslfnslkfnk it is SELF EXPLANATORY jesus christ
It's kind of funny: I had to show a couple of guys how to iron a shirt the other day. And do laundry. One of them had his mom do his laundry when she came to visit him. Seriously, when you're eighteen, your mom shouldn't be doing that stuff. :rolleyes:
EDIT: Also there is a freakin' STEP-BY-STEP illustrated process hanging over all of the washers at my dorm. This is the Ivy League?!
Your GPA is a bit grim for some colleges, but I don't know what they accept over there so I can't say for certain. I don't think too much emphasis is put on languages (here they required four years of a foreign language, but I only took two), but you may have some problems when it comes to your core courses. Try to send a course description of your Integrated Math class along with your transcript so that the admissions panel knows what it is that you learned in that class. Same thing goes for other classes with vague title names. Do well on your ACT/SATs, and pop some extracurriculars under your belt. As long as you graduate, I'm fairly sure some college will accept you, be it a community college or a four-year university. Remember that an average is just that: an average. Universities accept candidates from above AND below what Collegeboard posts as their average GPA, so what they say is not written in stone.
At that fact, I'd recommend CollegeBoard.com (http://www.collegeboard.com') for some basic college information and whatnot. You might need to fill out their financial aid form "CSS" for some of your colleges when you get in. You'll definitely need to fill out the FAFSA (http://fafsa.ed.gov) too! Not now, but early next year. Don't forget about it: a lot of colleges require this to give you financial aid! Seriously, my sister missed the deadline for her university's FAFSA application (even though she was a transfer student, so she was accepted AFTER the deadline, which is really stupid), and we're paying the full price of her tuition this year. Go to FastWeb.com (http://www.fastweb.com) to apply for scholarships all that jazz. I've met, like, one person who's won a few, but I figure the awards have to go to somebody. Finally, talk to your guidance counselor about community service opportunities and any scholarships you can apply for. Getting to know them also really helps when you're getting teacher/guidance recommendations. You won't be just a random face and a name to them if you start talking to them now.
As for an application, most colleges have paper or online ones. I applied via the Common Application online for most of my colleges (I applied to ten, all of them online, but two were not on CommonApp). They usually consist of: application, two or more teacher recommendations, personal essays, guidance recommendations (sometimes), transcript, lists of extracurriculars or personal activities, etc. It depends on the college really.
Psyburn, I think you'd have to go to some art school to avoid writing papers. And even then you might write papers about film history and whatnot. There's no way to escape. (Temple is all right. My mom went there for pharmacy, and my sister is going there for architecture [which ][/which]. If you can stay in-state, though, I would suggest it. It almost always costs less.)
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ahaha, well i could understand the ironing bit. my brother showed me how when i was about 19 because i'd never had to iron a shirt in my life basically. i mean i could do it because it's obvious but there're techniques to ironing that make it easier. i would be embarrassed to have my mom do my laundry when she came to visit, though.
also VINCEP you sound like the poster child for someone who is going to have to go to community college. i do not know a lot about this shit so maybe you can get into a legit uni with a 2.0 as long as you've got some sound sat scores or something, but yeah when i was in high school they told us shit like that meant we had to do to tri-c for a year or two before getting into a real college. maybe that wasn't true though!
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I've never done my laundry fyi because every time I started to my mom would say OH I'LL DO IT.
then in college she lived close enough nearby that she insisted on coming over and taking my laundry because it meant she got to see me every week.
I'm pretty sure I could do my own laundry, since I GOOGLED HOW or whatever, but yeah, never had to!
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granted it was also way cheaper for her to do it and much less time consuming since all but one of the washing machines was broken and it was a change machine, but still, lol indian parents.
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I had a roommate for awhile who could not iron his own clothes, but he worked at an office where he needed to have starched and ironed business-casual. I ironed everything for him. I liked doing it for some reason though (we were best friends maybe?).
My new roommate however, if he asked me to iron his clothes, I would instruct to go climb a wall of dicks.
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that's the thing, it basically just amounts to going to the bank and asking. It blows my mind that there's so many people who are actually legally adults but are basically completely helpless without a monetary support line from mom and dad. Hell, when I was still in highschool I remember actually TEACHING a 19 yearold chick how to do laundry when I went to the university to visit one of my older friends.
Man, not being able to do laundry is dumb as shit. I started helping my mom do laundry when I was like five or six, and I don't even remember when I started doing my own because it was such a smooth transition from me helping to me doing it. Granted, I will admit that I don't know how to iron a shirt, but I've never tried and never needed to. I'm sure I could learn how in about five seconds if given the need. And yeah, getting a checking account is easy because you literally just walk in and go "I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN A CHECKING ACCOUNT".
In fact most things in life are like that, you find out where you do them and go in and ask, most of those types of places have people whose job it is to answer questions like that, and even if not they will probably help anyway.
I do get all of my money from my parents, but they budget me and I budget myself so I really don't spend all that much. Unlike people like my brother, I actually FEEL BAD for spending my parent's money, and so I try to do so as little as possible. I also get summer jobs so I have my own money during that time, and stretch it out as far as possible. In fact, I'd probably have gotten a job during the semester, but my parents want me to use that time to study. I plan on doing my masters overseas, and I fully intend to work as many hours as legally possible while there to help pay for it, as well as applying for whatever scholarships I can get.
Basically, you can use your parents' money without being a huge fucking leech who can't learn how to live on their own, but most people don't and I don't get it.
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lol no they're not, they're filled with kids living off of their parents' income. I remember busting my ass to put myself through school and I remember being pretty disgusted that almost everyone else my age that I knew had their lips firmly wrapped around the parental teat, a couple of them didn't even know how to open a checking account until they were around 20 years old. Many of them still mooch off of their folks because they chose some of the most worthless majors ever and never thought to seek out an internship while they were in bigkid playland.
my sister's friend always tells her 'heh shouldnt your parents be paying for this?? sheesh cant they help you out a little' regarding everything and it's prettyyyyyyyyyyy dumb (he works at wholefoods just fyi)
not that I'm 100% independent tho, doubt I'd make it if I was
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sometimes I think parents should get to choose their kids' majors because I would be really pissed off if I spent tens of thousands of dollars so my kid could get a degree in something like photography or art criticism.
mmmmmmmmm and you chose enviromental science MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
iam pretty independent. that means i am poor as fuck though
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also btw its pretty intense to be thousands of miles from your parents and move to a country by yourself. it basically made me a GROWN UP
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actually ioam not really independent. i just suck from the state/universit's tit
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mmmmmmmmm and you chose enviromental science MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
iam pretty independent. that means i am poor as fuck though
natural resource management is pretty important imo(forestry, hydrology, ecology, etc.)... I minored in Chemistry too :>
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(he works at wholefoods just fyi)
lol i know a guy who graduated with his psychology degree and works there, he also goes to work the registers on acid regularly.
also btw its pretty intense to be thousands of miles from your parents and move to a country by yourself. it basically made me a GROWN UP
yeah, that's true for most foreign students I met except for all the japanese and korean kids who's parents sent them thousands of dollars a month so they could eat out every day and shop at Diesel.
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I plan on doing my masters overseas, and I fully intend to work as many hours as legally possible while there to help pay for it, as well as applying for whatever scholarships I can get.
don't feel too limited by this btw!!! idk where you plan to go to school, if anywhere at all yet, but pretty much anywhere you go it is easy as hell to get a job that will pay you under the table so LEGALLY POSSIBLE flies out the window which is good if you really need cash. mostly i know this because my brother and his friends have gone to school all over the place in europe and he pretty consistently finds full-time+ work because he's poor as hell even though i'm pretty sure that's not legal on a student visa or whatever. getting paid in cash is handy too because TAXES etc so in general it's nice that plenty of places are willing to do it, especially like individual bars/restaurants/shops.
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That is really interesting, I'll keep that in mind. I know I can legally work 15 hours there (Denmark btw, still debating between two universities but it's a few years away), but considering I'd have no idea what kind of schedule I'd have I don't know how many hours I'd be able to work. I told my mom that I planned to work while I was there and she just kept going "don't feel like you need to support yourself, stop worrying about that we'll pay for it we have plenty of money" but I want to help out as much as I'm dang capable of.
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ive discovered that velfarre is actually carmen sandiego and shes gonna steal hamlet's castle from denmark! go get her gumshoes.
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natural resource management is pretty important imo(forestry, hydrology, ecology, etc.)... I minored in Chemistry too :>
my friend calls biology and enviromental science "plant naming". heis a chemical engineer. i think i agree with him
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ive discovered that velfarre is actually carmen sandiego and shes gonna steal hamlet's castle from denmark! go get her gumshoes.
ill never know if avalon is my dad or not....
(worst ending of a series ever CARMEN FOUND HER FATHER OH NO HE HAS AMNESIA NOW, NOW WE'LL NEVER KNOW FOR SURE...THE END)
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my friend calls biology and enviromental science "plant naming". heis a chemical engineer. i think i agree with him
That's botany, and chemical engineers can be idiots too fyi
*never reads Darwin, doesn't give a fuck about water/air quality or faggy shit like ecosystems and global warming, kills tens of thousands of brown people in Bhopal*
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all this college talk makes me feel like a fucking loser
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all this college talk makes me feel like a fucking loser
have you thought about serving your glorious nation, civilian?
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have you thought about serving your glorious nation, civilian?
no, no, never, not in a million years (maybe)
i'm gonna be waste instead
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you should join the navy like marcus and travel the world (SEE THE ORIENT) itll be swell
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i bet if i joined the navy i wouldnt even bang foreign whores :/
just scrub shit and file shit and whatever else
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That's botany, and chemical engineers can be idiots too fyi
*never reads Darwin, doesn't give a fuck about water/air quality or faggy shit like ecosystems and global warming, kills tens of thousands of brown people in Bhopal*
plant namer
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all this college talk makes me feel like a fucking loser
all this college talk makes me feel like a fucking gramps
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grampa hunds :fogethappy:
i wish i wasnt such a loser in high school and went to a real college. like a university. although i feel like going to fake college was what it took to make realize how to do college properly and i have a degree so im not going to college again but fuck.
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grampa hunds :fogethappy:
i wish i wasnt such a loser in high school and went to a real college. like a university. although i feel like going to fake college was what it took to make realize how to do college properly and i have a degree so im not going to college again but fuck.
similar situation here. sometimes i really wish i just dropped out and moved out when i was 16 and gotten my lessons in early.
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*high fives listlessly, with head hung*
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goldenratio thats a good post.
but yeah i dont know why you guys are complaining we're all the same age. like i am just barely into SCHOOL at all and i know it feels shitty in retrospect to think of how i wasted so much time in high school and how i didn't do things right in regards to college and i'm not looking forward to moving into a dorm with a bunch of 18 year olds and being TWENTY FOUR and a fucking sophomore and blah blah blah but a lot of people don't go to school until they're in their early 20s so i don't think you should feel too bad about it. you're still young as fuck. i know it feels like you have WASTED AWAY and are kind of fucked when you see people younger than you coming out of college with degrees already and feel like you missed the boat and only had one chance and blew it or something but yeah, you didn't. i thought this and then i met this chick at work who had a masters and ran a library in new york and then her husband died when she was pregnant with their kid and she got addicted to crack and just destroyed her life. it really put things in perspective as to how far gone is too far gone!! like i thought i was, but SHE really is. compared to her my life's a treasure trove of opportunity so you guys should look at it like that instead of feeling bad about how you did things!!
also bort i thought you hated school
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jesus christ twenty four. even after someone who's a real failure shoved their shit in my face and essentially said YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS TO FAIL it still sounds bad. man i wish i'd had some sense of priorities/foresight as a kid!
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at least you're not geting a degree in art criticism
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well i don't think i can use that to coordinate the satellite uplinking between trains
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plant namer
lol ashouldn't you be discovering imaginary yarn theory or something right now
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all this college talk makes me feel like a fucking gramps
you should be a mall santa 4 xmas, I will seriously fly across the country to sit on yuor lap if u do
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once i threatened to kiss hundley and i never saw him again. this hundley is actually notable hollywood director paul vervohen.
reminder: penn and teller actually devoted a whole episode to ranting about how colleges were liberal think tanks and that dr. dre never went to college so you don't have to.
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I think I remember that episode, it was ridiculous.
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yeah i dont really feel like OH I WASTED MY LIFE IM A FAILURE, i dont really have any regrets because i am really happy with where I am. part of me wishes I could go back and change some things, but if given the opportunity I might not because I like where I'm at! I have an excellent job/career and I am doing fantastically well at it, which means that even though I went to a shitty school, I still picked the right THING to go to school for, and even though the degree I got didn't get me this job, going to that school did. so yeah I mean I live in VEGAS, I'm reminded daily how well off I am. I am 23, making a good living doing something I love, I got an apartment now, I have a car, I have it pretty fucking sweet!
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dont forget *has 5000+ posts on a forum
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i bought a new tshirt the other day, too. things are lookin pretty sweet for me.
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I'm a high school senior as well and I go to a private college prep school, so people are basically like, if you go here, you go to college. So our college guidance center is pretty... good, I guess. But no one ever was just like, "Yo, you should start applying now." I just decided, hey I should start applying right now. I'm applying to 8 (maybe 7) schools: UPenn (early decision), Yale, Columbia (depending on how I do on my SAT IIs), Notre Dame, Rice, Ithaca, Boston U, and Westminster Choir College (part of Rider). I'm applying for music (weird for having 3 Ivy's on there, right?) but moreso for the academics of music, i.e. theory, history, composition.
I hate this. More than you could ever know, I HATE this. You know most of the time people are like, yeah, senior year's easy! I decided, oh I KNOW I WON'T MAKE IT EASY. So I decided to take 5 AP courses, apply early decision to a school, do 9 school activities (4 of which I run), continue piano/voice lessons, and apply to 7 other schools. I have essays piling up and my teachers are gonna kill me for giving them recommendation shit on like Monday when I need them to send it in like a week later. On top of that, I HATE the Common Application -- it is way too fucking restrictive and it's just a pain in the ass. Sometimes I wish I could just do paper applications, it would be so much easier and I could be like, well I actually GOT EVERYTHING DONE instead of worrying, OH FUCK WHAT DID I MISS?
As I'm writing this, I should be writing my National Merit essay, but I've been putting it off for weeks, mostly because I hate writing about myself. For UPenn, I've got to write so much shit and I can't stand it. This stupid arts supplement which I have to send in, I don't know whether to use 1 CD or 2, what to put on them. Meanwhile, I'm trying to perfect all my music for recording, I only ordered a good enough microphone tonight to which I ordered it to a nonspecific address because Paypal hates me. I'm overwhelmed, overstressed, and just wish I had the willpower to get stuff done.
Long story short, I hate applying to college too. Granted, I suppose I have it a little easier because I have people who know what they're doing helping me... if I ask. I just forget to ask sometimes and get overwhelmed like this. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck with all of your shit, God knows we all need it.
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i was kind of worried that i was gonna be a bit older than most in my course/flat cos i took the year out but actually i'm like the youngest person i've met. plus nobody really cares or can tell - at least i can't - if people are a bit older and all that. i dunno, it just doesn't seem to matter at all here.
it doesn't feel real here yet. maybe it's cos of the whole campus thing. it's just a really different kind of place than i am used to at all. i have no idea whether i like it or not.
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my life was pretty miserable in high school. i'm not sure how i could have put any serious effort into college applications. i applied to a bunch of schools and got in, but i just didn't want to do it. two years later and i'm keeping it real at community college. eventually i plan on transferring but i feel a lot like panda right now, that it's going to be really awkward in a dorm full of 18 year olds as a 21 or 22 year old. especially since i look 14.
i kind of regret not immediately going to real college like i feel i should have, but then i wouldn't have ever made barkley or games or anything, and since i kind of want to do that professionally i'm pretty sure barkley will help me more than any degree will. still, i feel like i got everything up until here wrong.
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you guys know that barring special circumstances, like choosing a honors dorm or your own roommate, you won't get 18 year old roommates? they like to match like with like. if you take a bunch of 101 classes, which doesn't seem to be the case for most of you since credit would prolly transfer, then yeah you'll see young kids always but they probably won't match you with freshmen in dorms.
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man i love being just barely not a kid and yet still somehow crushed under the weight of years' worth of regrets
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man i love being just barely not a kid and yet still somehow crushed under the weight of years' worth of regrets
Dumbledore: "You are a braver man by far than Igor Karkaroff. You know, I sometimes think we Sort too soon ..."
He walked away, leaving Snape looking stricken ...
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i played guitar all through college (hours upon hours of guitar) so i ended up graduating with like a 2.5 gpa. i don't really care and i'm glad i did because i'm in a community college now and it's easy as fuck and i have like a 4.0 gpa so i can basically still go wherever i want. i'm also pretty poor so i couldn't have afforded real college from the start unless i won a ton of scholarships.
i think most people take the whole college process way too seriously and stress themselves the fuck out for years when it's really not that big of a deal what kind of shit you do in highschool as long as you don't completely bomb (keep like a 3.0 or above)
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i agree that university seems to be taken too seriously. i probably took it more seriously than i had to in the run up, doing all this preliminary reading and stuff which i'm very glad i done cos now these classes are gonna be pretty easy for me but i get the impression i worried myself unnecessarily because even most of the lecturers have been like "first year is easy it's mostly for partying" and letting us know our grades this year basically don't matter as long as we pass. i'm actually a little disappointed in that but i'm taking some extra stuff like french lessons which will keep me busy.
that it's going to be really awkward in a dorm full of 18 year olds as a 21 or 22 year old. especially since i look 14.
i don't think it will be much different on american campuses than here, so i guess i'd say you really shouldn't worry about this at all? the oldest guy in our flat is 23. i mean, he's kind of weird but nobody is thinking YUCk old man or anything. everyone else is either 20 or 21. i'm 19 and there's one girl who is 18 and she looks like she's 14, too. the age thing is only really an issue in your own heads i think. i mean walking around nobody knows that you've been slackin off making very funny and cool games and other stuff like that for a couple of years, or whatever it is someone might have been doing.
most people i've met have taken some time between school and college, and those ones who don't are you know, quiet studious types i think. i think you are definitely better off for being a bit older.
one thing i don't like so far is i haven't been in the position to sit down and get into making something like music or a cartoon or something like that. i hope it wears off and i find myself with the time and concentration to do these things cos i don't want to stop.
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i mean, don't get me wrong, i'm glad i didnt go to school when i was 18. i was really irresponsible, or maybe i just didnt have my priorities straight and didnt give a fuck. but anyway i would've failed out for sure. i mostly wish i would've been as smart (read: slightly less dumb) then as i am now but thats a pretty generic desire. it's good to know i might not feel too out of place as a 24 year old, though.
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im gonna write a useful article about how to successfully apply to college.
step 1: shake your fist and go "DEEEEEEEAN".
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:words:
Whatttt Common App was awesome. I don't think I would have applied for so many schools if it didn't exist. (If you ever visit UPenn, I can give you a tour. :) Though I don't know so much about the music classes here. If you have any questions, you can PM me and I'll try to answer them as best as I can.)
Your senior year sounds like my senior year except that you're totally on top of things and I applied to Penn the day the application was due. It's good that you're taking advantage of your guidance office, too: I seriously didn't enter the College and Career Center in my school until halfway through my senior year, which I sort of regret. And don't worry: one day spring will come and you'll find that things will get a whole lot easier. Especially after the AP exams.
BTW: In your essay, if you decide you're getting tired of saying "The University of Pennsylvania" and want to shorten it, make sure you say Penn instead of UPenn. It doesn't particularly bother me either way, but some people get anal about the "U". The university officially endorses "Penn" only.
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I hate college students
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I hate college students
so you hate the rcp bazing
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so you hate the rcp bazing
lol I don't know a single RCP member in college. They've been known to pressure people to leave school and busy jobs to persue full-time party work kinda like the LaRouche youth movement does. http://mikeely.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/tone-alternative-lifestyles-and-leaders-in-the-rcp/
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BTW: In your essay, if you decide you're getting tired of saying "The University of Pennsylvania" and want to shorten it, make sure you say Penn instead of UPenn. It doesn't particularly bother me either way, but some people get anal about the "U". The university officially endorses "Penn" only.
I knew that I just didn't want people to confuse me with applying to Penn State. :)
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Melee Master, you twit. Killing yourself and your GPA is for junior year. Tsk tsk tsk. You seem to be on top of things, though.
God, I feel like numskull. Everyone's already IN THE COLLEGE LOOP and I haven't started anything yet. Ugh. I haven't even got a list of colleges I want to apply to. I've got two big choices so far -- I can go to college in Rochester, NY with my girlfriend (it'd prolly be a community college, then I'd switch over to the Rochester University), or stay in california where education would be marginally a hell of a lot cheaper. On one hand, I want to get the hell away from home, and on the other, I know financing my ass will be the end of me. I don't want to be paying student loans till I'm 40. And I'd feel more like shit if I went to/got a loan for graduate school. Moar student loans?! *gun in mouth*
I'ma have the parents file Fafsa and apply to the UC system and to the local community college (for a backup plan, although I'll probably take this up because I really don't know what to major in anyways). Then I'll compare pricing/benefits between those and NY. ((Whoa! That's the first time I wrote a sentence down about what I'll do about college hoollllly crap I'm slow)).
Have any of you gone to school out of state? What do you recommend?
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i mean, don't get me wrong, i'm glad i didnt go to school when i was 18. i was really irresponsible, or maybe i just didnt have my priorities straight and didnt give a fuck. but anyway i would've failed out for sure. i mostly wish i would've been as smart (read: slightly less dumb) then as i am now but thats a pretty generic desire. it's good to know i might not feel too out of place as a 24 year old, though.
I went to college when I was 18 but I was 22 before I took it seriously and actually made any progress towards my degree. So yeah the feeling that I HAD TO GO TO COLLEGE RIGHT AWAY left me with an extra $20,000 in student loan debt. You made the right decision man!
Have any of you gone to school out of state? What do you recommend?
Be super careful with reciprocity agreements and/or out-of-state tuition. The average state pays between 50%-90% of total fees for its university students. This payment is invisible and you never see it (I think that students should be shown this information on their bill so that they can appreciate that US college is actually almost free). The only reason private schools cost so much more is that they receive no state funding - this is what defines a private school. The real cost of you going to college at a state school is actually the same as a private school.
SO MY POINT IS
It will be outrageously expensive for you to go to school out-of-state to a state that has no reciprocity agreement. Not all states have reciprocity agreements with all states. If there is a reciprocity agreement, your state will provide its funding to the college you attend somewhere else. If there is no agreement, college will be so expensive you will probably literally be unable to afford it with all the student loans in the world.
(Also yes I have gone to school out-of-state but there was a reciprocity agreement at the time so)
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that is true. I spent 2 years working towards the wrong degree and I'm not really much better for it. I learned a lot of stuff but the huge amount of money I wasted kinda outshines that. I don't entirely regret it because my old college ruled and I met some great people (sorry if I gave you the wrong impression gumbat!! I was pretty happy there besides the high concentration of bakers/still being depressed), but I don't think you guys are really too BEHIND or w/e. I'm not quite in the same situation but I definitely won't be graduating 'on time'
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wait who here DIDN'T waste two years working towards the wrong degree?
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Man has anyone else noticed that the new trend is to have a quarter-life crisis at 22 when we realize that we haven't taken over the world yet and no we are not the CEO of an upstart tech empire?
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yeah, almost no one really knows what they want to do after HS. I can't imagine what it's like other places where they have you decide even earlier. seriously I think all my friends either did the same thing as me, or they haven't decided yet. I was taking pretty much nothing but science courses, but now I'm in architecture so I basically have to start over. I don't think you missed out on much besides wasting money!!
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it seems like the way americans do college a lot better than the way it's done here. from what the american girl in my hall tells me, you pick a whole range of subjects for the first year and then decide what you'll major/minor in the second year and go on from there.
see for me it's just POLITCS AND PHILOSOPHYs straight for the whole whack. i'm trying to get rid of philosophy pronto - don't wanna do it one piece, dunno what i was thinking. i wish i could study some wacked up shit but it seems like i'm more or less stuck with POPlitics and Something Defensibly Related. i could get into international relations, maybe. something to do with foreign cultures where i can dream up what it is like/was like there.
so yeah big mistake for me. i haven't done these first couple of weeks well at all, haven't paid any of my fees in (i got loans i just haven't done it), haven't really socialized outside of the first couple of nights goin to get drunk with everyone (stankk). but maybe i will learn very quickly how to make this all work for me. i thought i was more prepared than this before i left, but the past couple of days i've been like "leave...disappear into the night..../wind"
when does the cool part come where i meet a hot and ridiculously smart woman who for some reason finds me interesting and we spend all our time either lying on the grass staring at stars or in bed, and that cool part where i feel like i'm actually learning something i'll be able to use to help when i get out of here. cos right now it's all just losing money and time.
it'll get better though, my mood swings have been bonkers the past couple of it. it always gets better, i'm just really flustered i think.
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Either study science or learn a trade.
Words of wisdom right here
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when does the cool part come where i meet a hot and ridiculously smart woman who for some reason finds me interesting and we spend all our time either lying on the grass staring at stars or in bed, and that cool part where i feel like i'm actually learning something i'll be able to use to help when i get out of here. cos right now it's all just losing money and time.
heh I'm waiting for this too. I'm trying to just focus on my course work for now because I dont think the girl situation is going to get any better any time soon. Going out and meeting girls is such a waste of time atm cause I havent figured out where all the cool non preppy girls hang out. I'm starting to think that those are the only kind of girls that go out and about ever because of the like 5,000 people at the minimum that I see every day I see maybe like one or two girls that look different than the multitudes of the others (and thus even remotely interesting)
my classes are sweet though. farsi is so much more interesting and challenging than german
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shut up wc you're fucking lucky. you go to OSU with tons of hot bitches and i go to CVCC with girls dressed in camo who chain smoke in between classes and are about 30 pounds overweight
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tons of hot bitches huh
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geeze panda, it was a joke :sweat:
why so angry..
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I started college 2 months after I turned 18 and I didn't think I was ready, but I made all A's and B's so far. I just recently figured out what real major I wanted to follow. I was doing Criminal Justice, but I realized that I really didn't care about the classes and never looked at the books or anything to do with criminal justice outside of class, so I switched. I think I made the right decision.
I-13
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oh was it a joke. idk it is just osu is the place im TRYING TO GO so that wouldve be good i guess. i thought you knew something i didnt!
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no it probably does have TONS OF HOT BITCHES i just normally don't call...my fellow females "hot bitches." it's the largest public university in the country iirc tho so yeah basically WC don't complain about women unless you've been to my campus.
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Either study science or learn a trade.
Words of wisdom right here
you chose the easiest and worst paying science ever
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you chose the easiest and worst paying science ever
you're fat and don't get laid
whats with the constant trollin' of environmental science/biology?
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in order to justify his career as an engineer with zero creative control marmot fucking hates any other degree. remember the time I mentioned I was going into law and marmot went nuts about how I was supporting a terrible system and completely ignored me whenever I said "I'm pretty sure that even if a full on socialist revolution goes on the system of courts will be the same and as a lawyer I don't make the laws and as a criminal DEFENSE lawyer I wouldn't really be at the forefront of social repression"?
because if you do you'll also remember diggity sauntering in and saying CONGRATS ON SUPPORTING THE TECHNOCRACY MARMOT OWNED *smokes a blunt*
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i am an astrophysics major
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i just trollyou dietcoke because you are perpetually dissing other nonscience degrees for notbeing profiteable while biology is probably the least profiteable "hard science"
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i just trollyou dietcoke because you are perpetually dissing other nonscience degrees for notbeing profiteable while biology is probably the least profiteable "hard science"
I'm talking usefulness. People can study photography or comparative lit all they want but afterwards when they find out they're not qualified for many jobs outside of reception work or the service industry learning a trade is a good idea if you want a career that doesn't consist of pandering to customers for tips or putting up with corporate bullshit everyday
I don't think I mentioned profit once... sounds like ur just perpetually DUMB!!!!! When u diss dietcoke u diss yourself
EDIT: Law school is the glaring exception, people who want to go to law school can study whatever the hell they want for their first 4 years as long as they can do well enough on that lawschool test
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oh was it a joke. idk it is just osu is the place im TRYING TO GO so that wouldve be good i guess. i thought you knew something i didnt!
man if you end up at osu we totally should hook up for a joint
but yeah I think its just that I live in a shitty part of campus and all my classes are in like one building right near by so I make the same walk every day and I'm seeing the same stream of ugly annoying preppy bitches on their way to the gym every day (the rec center is on my walk to class, so I basically get a sweet parade of super superficial people all day long heh) things are much better when I venture down to high street, but thats quite a hike heh
haha I love what I've chosen to do with myself, I'm studying farsi and my major is anthro and linguistics. I am going to go to Afghanistan and make a ton of money working for the Foreign Services or whoever. hooray for the acute need for cultural specialists in Afghanistan and central asia in general!
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Either study science or learn a trade.
Words of wisdom right here
what the shit is science man.
you cant get broader than that.
is social science a science?
some say YESD!
others say no
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isn't being a p.e. teacher a science now???
i could have sworn i heard some long thing that ended with the word science and i asked what it really was and i found out it was just being a p.e. teacher
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oh was it a joke. idk it is just osu is the place im TRYING TO GO so that wouldve be good i guess. i thought you knew something i didnt!
I thought you lived in the UK. Where do you live?
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the only promptly profitable career is business.
I have a visceral hate towards business students.
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what the shit is science man.
you cant get broader than that.
is social science a science?
some say YESD!
others say no
depends on the field. You could consider sociology psychology and economics to be sciences, but I wouldn't major in any of them unless I was positive that I was gonna go to grad school because there is not a single career I could think of that requires just a BA in any of those so you'd probably be better off just learning a trade and reading books.
I guess you could become a highschool guidance counselor with an undergraduates in psychology with some education classes, but that would probably be one of the most depressing jobs ever.
the only promptly profitable career is business.
I have a visceral hate towards business students.
I think they're precious. My favorite class ever is "BUSINESS CALCULUS" which should be called "Let me tell you about a little program called Excel"
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do you know what they teach you at business management? They teach you COMMON SENSE. That's all there is to it.
I hate them. All the pretentious, narcissist assholes choose BM.
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fuck did I never write about business majors, because they fucking blow.
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Business 406 - Beating the Market: Opportunities and Prospects of Reintegrating Whips into the Workplace
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BUS 220 Teambuilding II: The Art of HR Department Icebrakers: Balloon Activities to Trust Falls
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BUS 301 - Casual Fridays and other Productivity Boosters
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BUS 423: Franks Lookng Disgruntled in the Parking Lot and He's Carrying a Long Cylindrical Package: the Case for Conceal Carry in Offices
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BUS 099 - Watch Office Space and Read Dilbert
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COM 423: Required for Business Majors: Outnegotiating the Jew.
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COM 423: Required for Business Majors: Outnegotiating the Jew.
lol
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BUS 324: Diversity in the Workplace: Identifying the Right Negro for the Job
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BUS 101: Ethics, The Enemy
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BUS 113: Callypigian Secretaries Throughout Greek History
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BUS 420:
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I'm pretty happy that these guys are still making music
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I thought you lived in the UK. Where do you live?
haha what. no man i live in cleveland (ohio). it's why i'm trying to go to osu; it's easily the best public school in the state and it's pretty cheap all things considered (not much more than any of the other public schools like ksu or csu, even though it's a much better school), and i'm pretty sure i can get in with a 4.0 from the shitty community college i go to. i guess i could try to get into a private school, especially since that means i could leave the state, but that shit's so expensive and probably much harder to get into so whatever. i might apply to like usc!!!! or some shit even though i'm reasonably sure they'd never accept me, because my brother said private schools give a lot of money sometimes, and on the off chance that they would accept me and give me enough money that i could afford like $40,000 a year i think it's worth the $100 or so to apply since i'd love to get the fuck out of ohio and socal sounds pretty nice/warm
that turned into a p long tangent, but yeah, cleveland
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haha what. no man i live in cleveland (ohio). it's why i'm trying to go to osu; it's easily the best public school in the state and it's pretty cheap all things considered (not much more than any of the other public schools like ksu or csu, even though it's a much better school), and i'm pretty sure i can get in with a 4.0 from the shitty community college i go to. i guess i could try to get into a private school, especially since that means i could leave the state, but that shit's so expensive and probably much harder to get into so whatever. i might apply to like usc!!!! or some shit even though i'm reasonably sure they'd never accept me, because my brother said private schools give a lot of money sometimes, and on the off chance that they would accept me and give me enough money that i could afford like $40,000 a year i think it's worth the $100 or so to apply since i'd love to get the fuck out of ohio and socal sounds pretty nice/warm
I am certain you can transfer to OSU with a 4.0 at a community college (btw do you happen to go to Tri-C? a girl in my anthro class went there and a guy in my farsi class went there and they both refer to it as 'the shitty community college I went to' lol) But yeah, as far as applying to USC is concerned.. just move to California and then establish resendency. Its a California state school, tuition would be free for you if you were a resident of Cali. Boom!
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yeah, i do. there are like three campuses, though, so they might not have gone to mine (eastern). i'm just waiting to get 33 credit hours so they'll ignore my laughable high school record (read: no sat/act scores and like a 0.2 gpa). it's good that you're so sure i can get into it, though. i pretty much have all my eggs in one basket at this point.
also what do you mean by free tuition? is that shit free in california? ALSO also usc is a private school and i was under the impression that residency didn't have any impact on tuition costs for private schools? also also also establishing residency takes a year and i am getting too old to take a year off (seriously i'm gonna be 24 soon after the fall 09 term starts and i'm already enough of a loser for that so 25 would be even worse) and i don't know what i'd do in california for a year anyway but i'm pretty sure whatever it'd be, it would suck a lot.
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yeah, i do. there are like three campuses, though, so they might not have gone to mine (eastern). i'm just waiting to get 33 credit hours so they'll ignore my laughable high school record (read: no sat/act scores and like a 0.2 gpa). it's good that you're so sure i can get into it, though. i pretty much have all my eggs in one basket at this point.
also what do you mean by free tuition? is that shit free in california? ALSO also usc is a private school and i was under the impression that residency didn't have any impact on tuition costs for private schools? also also also establishing residency takes a year and i am getting too old to take a year off (seriously i'm gonna be 24 soon after the fall 09 term starts and i'm already enough of a loser for that so 25 would be even worse) and i don't know what i'd do in california for a year anyway but i'm pretty sure whatever it'd be, it would suck a lot.
oh I thought USC was a state school, maybe I am thinking of UCLA heh.
but yeah the people I know from Tri-C did not get good grades there. Though since it is OSU they cant turn you away because they are the Ohio STATE university. they have to admit you. And I'm pretty sure they treat transfer students the same way as branch campus students. If you have enough credit hours and above a 3.5 or whatever you're in no questions asked! I did post secondary at the marion branch last year so I met a lot of students that are pretty much in the same boat as you heh
but yeah cali does have free tuition for instate students at the state universities (of which there are many) thats just tuition though, you gotta pay for room and board and shit
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wow 3.5 that's ace man. idk how dumb the people you know from tri-c are but its literally nearly impossible not to get a 4.0. anything from 90% up is an a and it is really VERY, VERY DIFFICULT to get below a 90% on anything.
also free tuition what the fuck. thats insane.
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i want to get into usc/ucla but i live all the way in wisconsin and i have a 3.53 gpa. is there any chance i'll get in? if i get in what good scholarships are there so that i don't go 9999999 dollars in debt?
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i want to get into usc/ucla but i live all the way in wisconsin and i have a 3.53 gpa. is there any chance i'll get in? if i get in what good scholarships are there so that i don't go 9999999 dollars in debt?
lol why the fuck would you want to go to LA?
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i posted a helpful guide in community forum on how to get into college check it out.
also i can't speak for usc/ucla but is that 3.53 weighted or unweighted? also that's uh...quite a distance! any reason you want ucla/usc in particular?
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well, i have this super strong powerful interest in animation. i've been looking up schools and stuff, and there's only one in my area that has a decent animation program, but it's a community college, and they focus mostly on 3D animation (i like traditional animation far more).
UCLA and USC apparently have pretty good animation programs from what i've heard.
my gpa is unweighted. apparently you can get in to both schools without the BEST gpa in the world but i heard it's pretty hard to (ie you have to be pretty incredible otherwise)
edit: and i mean my interest in animation isn't something that just happened two days ago or something. like i've actually been really into it and i really have a desire to learn more about it. and i've been making a few animations in the past few years. it's really something i enjoy and something that i want to pursue as a career.
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well, i have this super strong powerful interest in animation. i've been looking up schools and stuff, and there's only one in my area that has a decent animation program, but it's a community college, and they focus mostly on 3D animation (i like traditional animation far more).
UCLA and USC apparently have pretty good animation programs from what i've heard.
my gpa is unweighted. apparently you can get in to both schools without the BEST gpa in the world but i heard it's pretty hard to (ie you have to be pretty incredible otherwise)
edit: and i mean my interest in animation isn't something that just happened two days ago or something. like i've actually been really into it and i really have a desire to learn more about it. and i've been making a few animations in the past few years. it's really something i enjoy and something that i want to pursue as a career.
go to an art school man, you'll be wasting your time at a state university if you know you definitely want to do animation
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but yeah cali does have free tuition for instate students at the state universities (of which there are many) thats just tuition though, you gotta pay for room and board and shit
I just looked this up and Cali universities charge exorbitant "fees" and it is still cheaper to go to college anywhere else. Tuition is still free though!
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Wut.
Assuming you get full Fafsa benefits or something.