I figure I will play this just out of curiosity, as I didn't like Earthbound.
It's my understanding that the storyline is the appeal in this game, I just don't understand how that can be when the enemy is a rocket with a rhino head.
realizes they could have made a mint if they weren't assholes and just translated the damn thing themselves.
I played Earthbound but never got around to completing it, it was the cartoony graphics that got me into it really never got to play Mother 2 either, anyone know why Nintendo wouldn't translate it themselves? Why is it called Mother now not earthbound.Mother
It's the only way I see their actions making any sense at all, if you got a better explanation the I'm all ears.
The appeal in Earthbound was the many absurdities and parodies of pop culture and rpg constructs, and Mother 3 isn't too much different except with somewhat darker undertones beneath the goofy exterior.disagree, but it's def not the STORYLINE either. lmao semper chrono trigger
Yeah sure.
POKEMON
SAME SHIT SLIGHTLY BETTER GRAPHICS on the DSi.
Mother
Mother 2 = Earthbound
Mother 3
it looks like it aged pretty well too, just looking at the screens. this game looks as if they could throw this on the DS and you would think it was made today.
So starman isnt going to release the patch monday so as not to "compete" with the VC Earthbound release? when will they put it back up?
@Miek: Yeah, they brought me in a little while after their first translator had a hissy fit and left the project for who knows why. I wan't the head translator, but I did most of the minor side-stuff (spell names, descriptions, items, towns, etc etc etc.) The original translator had translated pretty much all of the story text and it just needed to be cleaned up a bit. By the time tshu and the starmen folks merged we had the script pretty much done (maybe a half a month's worth of work left) and then they wanted to do it all over again. mato's translation might be better, but I dunno. I'd like to think ours was better :P
That's just it though. This is the kind of game where it's sucess is guranteed, but cannot be repeated. If Nintendo goes around promoting games like this and letting gamers worldwide understand how good theese games can be, then soon, not only gamers will be expecting it, but they won't even accept the junk that they are forced to digest from the "mainstream market" for all theese years. It will shift the paradigm to games that cannot be "invented" by a committe of publishing executives looking back at the "hip trends" of previous gaming generations, and their ability to release "blockbuster titles" will be severely hindered by each occurence of a game that actually deserves that status.
It's the only way I see their actions making any sense at all, if you got a better explanation the I'm all ears.
You deboed my topic! was going to make this the moment the patch came out.well yeah i've got a dump of "earthbound zero" but nobody calls mother 1 earthbound except weird rom kids. when you say earthbound you're probably talking about mother 2. also mother 1 was ugly as sin.
Mother was the first to be called Earthbound. NoA updated the gui (and added run I believe), tweaked some graphics, TRANSLATED, but never published it.... the beta cartridge of this being leaked and sold on ebay about a decade later (the beta ripped from this being "Earthbound Zero"). Fun fact: The version we made, thought of to be superior, was then retranslated to japanese and was used in the Mother 1 + 2 compilation on the GBA. Why wasn't it released despite having been finished? Too risky.
It was never released stateside though so they stuck the name Earthbound to Mother 2.. which had problems of it's own (This game Stinks!).
Turns out there's a member at rmxp.org that worked on the translation from 2 years back. Turns out they were almost finished twice but the faggots in charge wanted to redo the whole script. Once starmen approached them about the merge they decided to dump the translation AGAIN and start fresh.
We could have been playing this shit last year goddammit
FUUUUCK YEAHThis.
FUUUUCK YEAH
i wonder what Nintendo of America will think about this... :hmm:They don't care one single bit. Their loss.
What's this? A commercial RPG that's actually good? I must be dreaming.
I haven't gotten very far, but already this game has far more substance and style than most of the generic filth that's been released this past few generations. It's been a good long time a commercial RPG has kept my attention for two+ hours. I literally had to force myself to stop playing this.
- The way you learn PSI is portrayed a little differently this time.
Itoi - It's like, umm... It's like menstruation.
- ???
http://handbook.fangamer.com/
ordered.
I can now die happy.The instant you do, Mother 4 gets announced.
I'm probably going to commit suicide once I finish because there's nothing else in life to look forward to.
I'm at Chapter 2, they certainly got some interesting enemies, like the Strawberry Slime! :SWhat is so interesting about a strawberry slime?
What is so interesting about a strawberry slime?
From the sounds of things it sounds like you haven't tried the other 2. (time to see what all the commotion is about...might be misconstruing this!)
If this is true, go do it. Now!
Man, everybody here who is into game design needs to read the translated Itoi interview (http://mother3.starmen.net.s3.amazonaws.com/interviews/index.html) they put up, too. The dude is basically a genius and every time I see or read anything by him I get so PUMPED ABOUT MAKING VIDEOGAMES!!!.
fun fact i read somewhere the guy who made earthbound got the name gygas and his idea on what he would look like from a porno he accidentally saw when he was like five.
Finally! So long fire emblem, your anti-Pegasus Knight ways ae going on hold! Mother 3 is calling!
ARGH: I loving hate Mecha-Drago, he's kicking my ass due to the game not counting my presses THAT ARE ON BEAT. Bahfalrglemeh
Drago is raping me. Even when I managed to beat him he did his 'final attack' and annihilated me.
just exchange rotten eclairs for jerky. you can get eclairs from the one eating ghost.
learn to abuse the rolling hp counter (which is actually much much much slower than it was in earthbound). anything that interrupts the "roll" will modify it based on the number it was set on. this means if you end a fight even though you've taken lethal damage the counter will stop. slower characters are often better because when you use a healing item it will heal you from whatever number the counter is currently set on. say, for example you have 30 hp and you select nut bread. the enemy attacks first dealing 10 hp but you ate the nut bread when the counter hit 25; you'll recover up to 55hp instead of 50.
I almost cried when that guy told Flint Hinawa was dead. But, I already knew about that so that might of been why I didn't. It was very sad though! :cry:use spoilers next time. i edited them into your post but still, that sounds like a pretty big spoiler!
Man I bet Nintendo are regretting it for not translating this and selling it.
hey so I've only ever played a little bit of Earthbound (Mother 2??) so should I play through the other games first or would it be fine to start out with this release?
it's fine to start with this one they are separate stories
man i like this game so much. i only just got duster b ut
this is an important game
hey i've noticed that the highest combo i can achieve in battle is 16. is this because i'm bad or is 16 the limit or what? every time i get to 16 it feels like it just stops.
If you're using an emulator, you can just grind by using the speed button.
It doesn't really count as a spoiler since the only possible way to recognize the silhouette is to already be familiar with the scene. And it's not like the text gives anything away.
or if you played smash brothers brawl pokey's robo suit thing is a boss in it
My only complaint is that the music isn't quite as groovy as Earthbound's. Then again I think the sound quality is lowered a bit by the emulator. I wish I had a slot 2 card for my DS. : \
That's if you know what your doing. According to the save files on my psp, Earthbound took me..... shit. It doesn't record the time. It felt around 20-25 hours.
Mother 3 was exactly 30 hours for me though.
8 hours and you're already in chapter 7? I smell walkthroughs! Seriously.... I have no idea how you did it... so I can't judge how long it would take for you to beat the rest of the game..
idk so far I prefer the style of mother 2, it feels a lot less linear and you find stuff more haphazardly. that's what I like in a game I guess!!Yeah, I'm the same way. Mother 3 always seems to point you in the direction you need to go. Earthbound did it too, but I dunno, it just felt less linear(more towns maybe?). I'm a little more than half way now too.
Everything else in this game is way better, though. I never really cared for any characters in Earthbound except maybe Ness. This game I really want to find out what happens next, and how the characters are going to react. It's also really cool that the game focuses on characters you don't actually play as either, but you get to seem them evolve as a character.
Shit the power generator boss is tough. Any tips?
GOD DAMN, I hate Miracle Fassad, why is it that the enemies can all of a sudden dish out PK Starstorm and literally rape my entire party!??!?!?!?!? It was cool that I had PK Shields up damaging him back, but god damn it doesn't help when he's eating bananas!
Don't forget the light! You know, the PK Flash like skill bosses sometimes get in Mother games. It instantly killed Kumatora and I spent half of the battle trying to heal her/ rebuff her meanwhile she took mortal damage damn near every turn. At some points I had to spam attack (where I would have used items/ skills) just to get to Boney's turn so I could heal her asap. To add insult to injury it seems that the only PK Thunders that actually landed on my team was on her... and it hit her 1-2 times per attack! Best yet was the end of the battle. Every turn I had to frantically use support with 2-3 chars just to stay alive meanwhile he was popping bananas to heal himself for 500+ a turn.
Ah right, I forgot about that! The Dazzling Light bastard skill, I bought a hefty supply of Pencil Missles and Lifenoodles, but ended up using them all up, I didn't think Fassad had PK Moves, god damn this guy is a bitch, I'll have to take a different approach this time around!
Speaking of bastard bosses, those Barrier Trio were pretty damn annoying too, I hate that you can't reflect PK Thunder only with the Franklin Badge!
with Mr Generator I had Duster use the defense down thing every turn until the generator ran out of batteries, then I comboed with every character. didn't have the rubber armor or w/e either (you can buy this from the vending machine in the room below, the one with the hot spring)SPOILER ALERT: you stink
also maybe me saying this is useless, but you guys should try to be more descriptive with what you put in your spoiler tags! name the chapter at least.
edit: I mean put the chapter outside the spoiler tags so we know what we can read
man, i wish i had bought the lightning-resistant equipment. maybe then i wouldn't have used all my good items in a single battle. :< but then again, hoarding items doesn't do much good.
Evil Bob, do you mean have Lucas heal with PK Lifeup or with items? i never use Lucas to heal with PSI during battles. he doesn't have as much PP as Kumatora, so i make sure i always have him using PK Love (or Shield omega or something like that).
Boney is my main healer. Boney's actually just the item master in general because he's super fast. Duster's thief skills are awesome, but when i'm not using those, i have him either kick or use items. having items arranged properly between characters is reaaally important in Mother 3, which is kinda cool.
There were a few stuff that were pissing me off, but it was very VERY minor stuff so I let it pass.
All in all, I give this game a 5 Jaymonius thumbs up out of 5. :D Hope we get to see another Mother game in another 20-30 years or so. :P
Why does everybody say this? Just let it go, already. Mother 3 is a fitting end to the series, and I don't see how doing another would go. Plus, it sure takes some sweet time, like you say, and do note Itoi is like 60-61 or something around that. He may aswell retire soon, and I don't see another Mother game happening without him. At least I hope there wouldn't be one without him.
wait so whats this beat stuff. like i mash a and sometimes land two hits, is that what you mean? I DONT GET THIS STUPID GAME BAN ALL FANS.
i know what a tempo is dude but so far the game hasn't explained the tempo thing and I thought (correctly) that I accidentally stumbled on it.
spoilers --> did anyone get the Chimera Report reference? When you go the Chimera Lab, and check the sign that says MOVIE, it says "Now showing "Chimera Report" sponsored by P-Corp".
it's probably not a reference to Dguy's game, but I thought it was kind cool. what a coincidence!
http://nimunimu-factory.at.webry.info/theme/1a860ce1c5.html
you guys check that out
this jap dude is making figurines of a whoooole lot of mother 1-2-3 characters
and they're all pretty neat
he should sell them (if he doesn't already)
how do you get that present that the ultimate chimera is guarding btw?
My PSP bricked :( :( :(
I can't finish this game :( :( :( :(
Transfer your save file and play it on your computer.
Alright, I got to the end of Chapter 3, and I can safely say I'm hooked. However, my friend is dumping the ROM to a cart for me, so I'm going to wait until I can get that from him.
I was talking with friends via Skype while I was playing this, and they thought I was on drugs when I was explaining some enemies (Pigface's, Mr. Passion, and Pork Tank specifically)
Edit: Jealous Bass boss is kicking my ass... His first attack kills Boney, and his second turn Lucas dies. EVERY TIME. If only Lucas was a little faster...
Alright, I got to the end of Chapter 3, and I can safely say I'm hooked. However, my friend is dumping the ROM to a cart for me, so I'm going to wait until I can get that from him.
I was talking with friends via Skype while I was playing this, and they thought I was on drugs when I was explaining some enemies (Pigface's, Mr. Passion, and Pork Tank specifically)
Edit: Jealous Bass boss is kicking my ass... His first attack kills Boney, and his second turn Lucas dies. EVERY TIME. If only Lucas was a little faster...
My PSP bricked :( :( :(
I can't finish this game :( :( :( :(
Bricked as in "I can't turn it on" or bricked as in "It turns on but won't boot?"
This is important because if you have a PSP, there's a built in back up by holding down "R" when you turn it on.