Heh, yeah I expected you to say that Marcus. I don't know if I want to get this. I mean I saw some walk through videos of it and it just doesn't seem as appealing as the last two Fallout games. It looks like a dumbed down oblivion with the "VATS" system. Maybe it's just the next gen graphics or whatever, but it just doesn't look like the same style as the other Fallout games.
if you go around comparing it to fallout you are guaranteed to be disappointedIf a new game can't compare to a 10-year old game I just don't see what the point is. Have games really become this much worse over the years and have our expectations really been lowered this much?
If a new game can't compare to a 10-year old game I just don't see what the point is. Have games really become this much worse over the years and have our expectations really been lowered this much?
On the other hand a comparison to Fallout isn't completely unwarranted since the game is called Fallout 3 and not Fallout: insert spinoff title here. If you put a number after a game you sort of expect it to have some resemblance to the previous games.
On the other hand a comparison to Fallout isn't completely unwarranted since the game is called Fallout 3 and not Fallout: insert spinoff title here. If you put a number after a game you sort of expect it to have some resemblance to the previous games.
Or even worse. EA could have pulled an Ultima IX and made Fallout 3 a third person action game with like 3 weapons, no stats, dialog, and a linear story progression.Interplay already pulled one of these with Brotherhood of Steel.
you know people think fallout is going to suck because bethesda has terrible writers and animators and not because the gameplay is changing, right? the good news is there will be 300 collectible books in the game that give you a lot of fallout lore.who gives a fuck about ANIMATORS, though? fallout looks pretty terrible now, and people still play it, so obviously visuals do not play such a large factor in things. that whole isometric, quasi-3d style didn't age well at all, i don't think, and fallout 3 looks PRETTY GOOD so honestly, graphics weren't the thing i expected you to criticize. from what i've seen, they've kicked the animation up a notch from the low-grade stuff you saw in morrowind/oblivion. anyway, yes i agree, bethesda's writers are not good. i think the writing in oblivion was a step above most other fantasy rpgs, though. still, i'm not expecting fallout to have especially good writing. but the parts of fallout 1 and 2 i played weren't amazingly written, either. maybe the good writing came later on, but yeah, i wasn't blown away by what i saw of either of the first two. maybe i'm missing something!
still, i'm not expecting fallout to have especially good writing. but the parts of fallout 1 and 2 i played weren't amazingly written, either. maybe the good writing came later on, but yeah, i wasn't blown away by what i saw of either of the first two. maybe i'm missing something!Well to tell you the truth the writing wasn't actually that good in Fallout 1 and 2. What made it seem like such good writing was the amount of choices you had in dialogue and the game's ability to continue to make sense no matter what you chose to say. I wouldn't call it good writing, it's more like I dunno... natural writing perhaps? Like it felt like you were really talking to people living in a post-apocalyptic future.
I wouldn't call it good writing, it's more like I dunno... natural writing perhaps?
who gives a fuck about ANIMATORS, though? fallout looks pretty terrible now, and people still play it, so obviously visuals do not play such a large factor in things. that whole isometric, quasi-3d style didn't age well at all, i don't think, and fallout 3 looks PRETTY GOOD so honestly, graphics weren't the thing i expected you to criticize. from what i've seen, they've kicked the animation up a notch from the low-grade stuff you saw in morrowind/oblivion. anyway, yes i agree, bethesda's writers are not good. i think the writing in oblivion was a step above most other fantasy rpgs, though. still, i'm not expecting fallout to have especially good writing. but the parts of fallout 1 and 2 i played weren't amazingly written, either. maybe the good writing came later on, but yeah, i wasn't blown away by what i saw of either of the first two. maybe i'm missing something!i don't think the graphics are really that amazing actually! i don't care that much about graphics and if i can still tolerate the original fallout's graphics then i can probably tolerate fallout 3's graphics. i mentioned the animation though because this seems to be one of the things that people are coming down on bethesda for (and it was very bad in morrowind and oblivion), but it is not something that bothers me. i think we are at a point where graphics look okay now but in five years they will look really plastic and shitty.
I saw a mud crab the other day...
I don't know guys I think this is probably closer to the original Fallout vision than Fallout 1 & 2 were. Don't any of the hardcore fans remember how bad the actual gameplay was in Fallout 1 & 2 and that everything people love about the games has nothing to do with the gameplay? Fallout 2 is my favorite PC game but I don't see how that excludes me from being able to like Fallout 3 (which I am going out of my mind for by the way).personally i liked the gameplay in fallout and the think the biggest problems were fix in tactics. of course i never liked fps's that much and every action rpg since SoM has sucked. the gameplay of FO3 was pretty much design for me to hate it.
Buuuuuuuut I agree with Chef that Bethesda has horrible writers and that is probably a bad sign for Fallout 3.
i don't think the graphics are really that amazing actually! i don't care that much about graphics and if i can still tolerate the original fallout's graphics then i can probably tolerate fallout 3's graphics. i mentioned the animation though because this seems to be one of the things that people are coming down on bethesda for (and it was very bad in morrowind and oblivion), but it is not something that bothers me. i think we are at a point where graphics look okay now but in five years they will look really plastic and shitty.yeah i don't really care much about graphics either. as long as they meet up to some vague set of NEXT-GEN STANDARDS i've developed, i'm good. fallout 3 meets those so after that point i just don't care. i suspect you're right about how in five years it'll all look like plastic, though.
but anyway, i think the gameplay looks pretty good. i watched maybe a 3 minute trailer a couple days ago and it seemed okay, but the game seems very much like oblivion with guns. i even think that's a good idea for a game, oblivion with guns, and would work with pretty much any other concept. i'm not one of those guys who goes around PREACHING THE SANCTITY OF FALLOUT, whatever, they can do what they want with it, but i seriously don't think bethesda has the writing ability to make it as interesting as the previous two! i saw some of the dialogue (choice 1: i like your hat, choice 2: nice hat, partner, choice 3: i'm going to kill you and take your hat - not making this up) and it seemed really, really bad. rpg maker bad. but whatever, who knows.
ahahaha also the trailer i watched showed the player leaving the vault for the first time and there was this sign right next to a cliff overlooking a trashed city that said "scenic outlook". thanks bethesda.
fuck reviews. who are those from? honestly if it's from anyone like gamespot and especially ign/game informer/gamepro, i instantly disregard everything they say. the only site i've known to give decent reviews on occasion is 1up, and for something this high profile, i suspect even they're going to be like HEH AMASING...
Anyway, reviews are only opinions. I read them just cause it gives me something to do, and occasionally it's interesting to see their views on things. I'm buying the game, not because of reviews but because I want to play the game and I think I'll enjoy it.reviews would be opinions if not for the fact that basically all major magazines whore out their reviews to advertisers/contributors. as it is, they're paid advertisements.
i just want to explore a fucked up dead worldOne of the early complaints I've read is that the world isn't all that dead. Every camp of humans is about 50 meters from each other. So you essentially go from town center to monster nest to raider camp within a 100 meter radius)
Got this a couple of hours ago (GameStop midnight release thingy).
So far I've just been dicking around, pretty fun it does remind me alot of Oblivion but there's definately some Fallout there as well. Haven't played enough to say if it really deserves a 10 or not but so far I'd say maybe an 8 oor something.
I wouldrun on with a million pointless sentences like I usually dosay more but I'm tired as hell (and alittle tipsy).
Yeah, I like to go to GameFAQs and read one good review (9 or 10), one average review (6-8) and one terrible review (1-5) just to get a balanced opinion. As long as the reasons people give aren't stuff like "graphics are not as good as crysis" or "i do not understand story why kill bowser???", generally the reviews there are fairly good.
Ya well, I sometimes lurk on the GameFAQs boards and God this place is often a cesspool of ignorance.
The character creation apparently has that growing up in the vault thing going where you play through a tutorial level while you create your character. (whichi you can then change at the end of it). I wonder how tedious it'll become if you replay the game too much though.
About as much as the tutorial level at the start of Oblivion ?God damn, I hated that. Five minutes for my guy's appearance and then ten to fifteen minutes to clear the dungeon/sewers/cave. That took far too long. Morrowind's approach was much better than Oblivion's. You jumped into the action much sooner.
Yeah, I like to go to GameFAQs and read one good review (9 or 10), one average review (6-8) and one terrible review (1-5) just to get a balanced opinion. As long as the reasons people give aren't stuff like "graphics are not as good as crysis" or "i do not understand story why kill bowser???", generally the reviews there are fairly good.this is something i have been doing for years and it's a very accurate way to get an idea of how a game works without actually purchasing it. regardless of what you think of the average gamefaqs member, comparing all three gives an in-depth look into the game. the 10 review is going to be written by a fanboy who praises every single thing good about the game so you know it's strengths. the people who rate it really low are obviously angry they spent the money on the game or simply have some bias against the game so they will nitpick every flaw. then you use the middle of the range review to tell how truthful the good and bad reviews are and you have a pretty good picture of what the game is like.
If by often you mean always. Gamefags forums have surpassed 4chan levels of retard.
Yeah, there are many types of armor.
The races make a little difference, like if you are asian you get tech bonus, if you are white you get speach/money skills, if you are black you get more combat skills, and if you are latino you get sneaking and stealing skills.
Yeah, seems a little racist too me. =/
Hahaha.....ahahah goty 2008
I read that on GameFAQs. Is it for real!?
Fuck sakes. I still have to wait two days before I even get to play it.Basically this game is freak'n awesome and unless something else sneaks up and wows me this is definately my GOTY choice this year. Yeah it's ALOT like Oblivion but there are some things that make it better. For one thing this game probably has the best dialog Bethesda has ever written and there's way more choices during conversations than you probably would have expected from them. V.A.T.S. is way more useful than I would have originally expected it to be (I find myself using it whenever I can) although I have to wonder if it won't get kinda annoying having to watch the slow-mo scenes over again and over after I hit like the 30 hour mark. So far they're quite entertaining though. In some ways it does feel like a Fallout game (maybe it would feel even more like one if you haven't played Oblivion before eh?) but just don't go into this game expecting it to be like a Fallout 2 Washington D.C. expansion pack and you'll enjoy it alot more.
Leric, you must update your post with more thoughts on the game when you are less tipsy/tired.
I'm curious, since this is coming from Bethesda.. What is the character creation like?Long story short it sucks. There's basically no choices and if you want to make an original character prepare for atleast an hour of manual face shaping. I swear Bethy should really realise by now that in these games they keep making that last for hundreds of hours the way your character looks is gonna be important to people. The hair choices suck too btw.
I wonder how tedious it'll become if you replay the game too much though.It's pretty annoyingly long the 2nd or 3rd time around to have to go through it all again, atleast until I took Marcus' advice and made a save right before you leave the vault that is.
Hahaha.....I'm not sure, I don't think so. Well it would give the different races more purpose I s'pose but yeah that's kinda... yeah I hope not.
I read that on GameFAQs. Is it for real!?
The hair choices suck too btw.
is there an deathclaws?
There better fucking be Deathclaws.Well I haven't personally seen any yet, but I've heard other people talking about them so I'm pretty sure they're there.
You guys with the game should offer a bit more insight into the game so far, I think, rather than just "seems cool" or "oblivion with guns." Anyway, I'll probably pick this up for the PS3 after work.Um, I don't really know what else to say besides what I already have so I dunno... just tell me what you wanna know and I'll be glad to tell you.
So all in all, its fairly fun but it is OBLIVION WITH GUNS. Like literally its futuristic post-apocalyptic oblivion with guns. It is really wasteland feeling but there are human raiders and small townships and shit so you hardly feel like the last person alive or anything.
the Fallout games are less so about their (not-so-good) gameplay and more about the world/lore/story that is pretty good (you just don't have many post apocalyptic games). Is there still a lot of dark humor around (I heard it's there just not very often), is the story arcs in the quests good (or just bland/basic), etc, this type of stuff is stuff I'm interested in and if you guys who have it could expand that'd be gr9.
Hint: Aim for the legs to cripple them, then the eyes for damage... than again that holds true for all melee enemies.
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I've played games with source code that is probably older than you are!
Man Fallout fans are really creepy sometimes :(
you mean fans of *insert every possible game/movie ever here*
Bought this sucker for PS3 after work (I wanted Little Big Planet, but EBGames ran out). I'll probably give this baby a whirl in 20 or 30 minutes.
The PS3 is reportedly very buggy and the worst, so :(
Hopefully it won't be too bad for you.
This game is fine; yeah, it is pretty much Oblivion with guns but uh it's a GOOD thing. They fixed all the problems that were wrong with Oblivion, and wrote an interesting setting. Also I don't really get the complaint about fast travel; fast travel was in the other two.a lot of people didn't like oblivion, including me(and i was fucking hype for it before i played it) and i don't see how adding guns makes it better, hopefully your right about them fixing the problems, but i have i feeling my problems with oblivion aren't the same as yours.
PS: NMA is probably the most batshit crazy corner of the internet ever
a lot of people didn't like oblivion, including me(and i was fucking hype for it before i played it) and i don't see how adding guns makes it better, hopefully your right about them fixing the problems, but i have i feeling my problems with oblivion aren't the same as yours.
also fallout 1/2/tactics didn't have fast travel, it took you days to travel between towns and you had to deal with random encounters, fast travel is instant with no random incounters and apparently it only takes like 5 minutes if you actually do decide to just walk between towns.
The PS3 is reportedly very buggy and the worst, so :(I played for a solid 6 hours last night and nothing was wrong with it. A few of my friends mentioned that their PS3 locked up a few times, but this can happen with any game. The only real problem I've head other people running into is literally getting stuck (falling INSIDE models and shit) and having to reload.
Hopefully it won't be too bad for you.
PS: NMA is probably the most batshit crazy corner of the internet ever
@^!%@!^#@!@(&% Have you read any of the reviews or posts about this game? It does not have fighting that is like the fighting in Oblivion. Playing the game without the turn-based aiming, which is just like classic Fallout, is like . . . I don't know playing a fighting game without using any special moves. It is closer to turn-based Fallout than Oblivion in my opinion. If I were to describe the combat system to someone else I would compare it to Secret of Mana or Vagrant Story or something before I would compare it to Oblivion. Also character building is 100% Fallout and 0% Oblivion (IE no repetitive tasks to increase your aptitudes). It's pretty much completely different unless the perspective is really that important to you? Because other than the fact that it is in first-person and some other minor things (the presentation of conversations, and more specifically, the game compass which is completely identical to Oblivion's but it just a different color), it shares very little with Oblivion outside of what it shares with any other RPG.i wasn't really thinking about combat when i said that, but whatever. from what i've seen and heard i don't believe your claim that it plays out just like fallout, but i can't be sure till i play it myself(torrent should be done sometime today i hope!) and fyi you can play fighting games just fine without special moves(some of them anyways). and from the way people describe vats it sound like the real-time fighting is worthless, why have it in at all(real-time or turned-based? pick a side beth, we're at war!). i also was not talking about character building, which i'm well aware is 0% oblivion, though i think it could be argued that it is 100% fallout, sure xp is probably gained the same way(doing quests and killing people), but i think the removal of traits and the changes to perks were a bad move. i'm not a fan of first-person view but that isn't that big of a problem, though i think the game could do without the compass(is there an option to turn it off?). as for what else it does share with oblivion that i don't like... i don't know yet quite honestly, and i think i'll actually take the advice and wait till i've played it to comment on that.
Give me a break it is basically the same thing. Also it takes days to travel between towns in Fallout 3 too and anyway that is a pretty petty problem? Aside from that, Random encounters are relatively rare in the original Fallout games and also pretty stupid. Fallout 2 is my favorite classic PC game, but the things I remember loving about the game are completely unrelated to the random encounters on the world map!they are not the same thing and what makes them different should be pretty obvious. i'll admit they are fairly rare(which is probably a good thing, remove them completely, not so much imo, though i hear fo3 has some when you actually decide to walk from place to place), but i disagree with them being stupid. of course they aren't the greatest part of the game, but there are some good ones, including ones that were part of the main story, which is one thing they can't do with instant travel making you skip all possible encounters.
I don't understand are some people so unhappy with the world that they are afraid to like Fallout 3 even though they love Fallout 1 and 2 :(i don't understand why liking fallout 1/2 means we have to like fallout 3 :(
Which is a shame because it's probably one of the best fan run gamer sites on the net in terms of delivering news and exclusive stuff but GOD DAMMIT 90% of the people who post there permanently wear shit stained nostalgia goggles.
News flash, Falloutfags hate FALLOUT. If you bring up any flaw from any previous Fallout game (specifically the Temple in Fallout 2, the shitty direction Van Buren was taking, or the abundance of useless skills and perks) they'll retaliate with THAT IS ALL IRRELEVANT FALLOUT IS KING IT IS A PNP RPG ITS LIKE PLAYING ON PAPER BUT IN VIDEO GAME.
I use to troll there and make fun of people who nitpicked the stupidest shit like how one guy was super pissed off because he thought the rail driver was a steampunk weapon and I kindly reminded him that it was a fucking boiler attached to a steam whistle and as a hand invented weapon it was no more steampunk than robots with laser guns. One hissy fit later I started making fun of a guy who thought having an intro tutorial was THE WORST THING EVER even though Bethesda kindly allows you change all of your stats before leaving allowing you to save the game beforehand.
The difference between the Fallout Super Fags and every other fanboy is that they gather en masse and they are more aggressive than wolverines. Make fun of Mario in a Mario board and they'll call you a troll and ignore you. Make fun of Fallout and you'll lose an arm, an eye, and a leg followed by death threats to your pm box and email.
Yes. I received email threats from posting on NMA.
Even when I was trolling the MGS4 board on Game Trailers I didn't receive anything more than "STFU MGS4 IS THE BEST IGNORE THIS DUDE" but so far Fallout Fanboys are the only guys in the world who have EMAILED ME THREATS.
hold tab for the flashlight!!
whats tab do,,,(xbox)
this game is fucking garbage. garbage laying in a garbage heap is less garbage than this garbage is.haha, i was actually kind of waiting to see if you'd say anything on the subject. do you think you'll play it at all? i am kind of curious what you'll actually think. bm seemed to be going into it as a HUGE FALLOUT FAN so him not hating it (liking it, even!) so that's kind of heartening. you are not bm though so who knows.
this game is so garbage/trash that i dont even need to play it to see how garbage it is.
i adviser everyone to torrent it/steal copies from bethesdasoft warehouses we cannot let this GARBAGE continue
The scariest moment for me so far was running into a Centaur, I wasn't sure if these guys were going to be in the game and they were pretty terrifying, especially when I only had 3 shots of ammunition left in my hunting rifle. I thought it was a human from a distance so I holstered my weapon and started walking towards it, I could see it coming towards me but there was no dramatic music or anything. All of a sudden this mutated pink guy is hurling mucus at me and screaming.
this... hunger... i have this unexplainable urge that i can't... control... when i was 10 years old i jumped at the throat of a wandering merchant and drank his blood... i... i just blacked out... i don't remember any of it, i just... drank his blood.
there is one character in arefu named braillie euwen or something, i can't remember what exactly it was, but she is the worst character in a game. she is horrible. aaaaaaa she is bad.You talking about Brailee Evers? I don't really think she was a bad character at all, she was s'pose to be a crazy woman who talks like a mom from the 50's. Sure considering half of the stuff she talks about hasn't existed in 200 years (Mrs. West is probably whipping up a batch of her famous cookies and all the kids are playing in the yard... uh yeah what world are you in lady?) she really doesn't make sense (well I guess she could have watched old TV or Radio shows or something if that still exists) but still she was funny as hell to me.
how is the music. i heard one song and it sounded basically like the battlestar galactica soundtrack, which is not a terrible thing but makes sad/intense middle eastern-esque music into a cliche if it is all like that. i mean it sounded good, but how is the music overall?Mostly forgettable for me. I mean yeah it definately gets the job done but there's nothing that has stuck in my head so far. Still I gotta say it's better than Oblivion's crappy music though (that's really just a preferance though. Oblivion's music wasn't bad it just wasn't my style).
sh'was s'pose t'be a crazy w'manlol I really do talk like that my english sucks, but I'm working on it.
but yeah if this is anything like oblivion, all the characters (or almost) feel really bland and boring, just because their dialogue is so badWell to tell you the truth the dialogue and characters are overall alot better than Oblivion's. I've experienced alot more memorable characters already than I did in Oblivion (mostly all the characters in Oblivion were forgettable). This is mainly because each character for the most part has there own unique dialogue and you can't really talk to unimportant people (they just make a response like "how are you today" or something like that).
(i guess it is, listening to you guys)
Do the people all sound the same in Fallout3? I hated in Oblivion how there were like only 3 guys voicing all the male characters in the game. I talked to some guy who was whispering to me trying to get me to do something, then I clicked "Rumors" and he talked in this loud booming voice all of a sudden.
how is the music. i heard one song and it sounded basically like the battlestar galactica soundtrack, which is not a terrible thing but makes sad/intense middle eastern-esque music into a cliche if it is all like that. i mean it sounded good, but how is the music overall?
It's all licensed oldies tracks but the occasional (as steel puts it) postrock with violins inon zur composed track. I do like the radio stations, though, and no one can say that they hate Butcher Pete.Oh yeah the radio stations are cool (everything I said previously about music was about the in-game music not the radio stations).
HE'S HACKIN' AND WHACKIN' AND SMACKIN'
no, but i installed it and it does that same thing bioshock did, only every 10-15 seconds now instead. guess i'm waiting on the console version!
Be careful while exploring because you can literally stumble upon the final quest in the game as soon as you leave the vault.
i like that we get "ugh i'm sick of hearing oblivion with guns" and then, just a little later everyone going "man i know oblivion with guns is overused but HOLY SHIT OBLIVION WITH GUNS"yeah but dude it REALLY IS, ok
But VATS is the most effective way of fighting so you kinda have to use it.
Nah. It's not oblivion with guns.don't know. never played oblivion, never played this.
Ranged combat is so bad that it's not a viable alternative to melee weapons. So it's just Oblvion.
so who wants to bet that they'll put vehicles into the game 6 months from now as a $15 downloadable add-on.ahahaha, i was thinking about this too. THEY PROBABLY WILL! hey, did you know all of the exact same console codes from oblivion work on this too?
IT'S THE FUTURE OF VIDEOGAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fallout 3 also succeeds where Oblivion failed miserably. Atmosphere. Oblivion was just a vast expanse of the same dull looking forests and caves. Fallout 3 is, well, so much more. Exploring the world is actually really interesting and fun.
So much more? Instead of dull looking forests and caves, you now have dull looking wastelands...and caves. The more you get into the game the more you'll notice how much they've repeated 'dungeons' again, just like with Oblivion.
the only way i can ever beat super mutants/robots/high level enemies/whatever is if i use vats like 3 times on them. i probably get about a minute of slow motion per enemy. it's pretty cool. i bet if you add up all the time you're in slow motion vats it probably adds 2 hours to the game.i killed a supermutant at like level 2 with no vats, i felt p good about it. i was hanging out and all of a sudden GRAWWWWW this guy just started firing rockets at me from the back of a truck. that shit took forever though!
so who wants to bet that they'll put vehicles into the game 6 months from now as a $15 downloadable add-on.
IT'S THE FUTURE OF VIDEOGAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yup. They released horses with armour as a 'premium' download. There wasn't even mounted combat in the game.there was like "sit on your horse and shoot arrows" or "switch to arrows while you are riding and have your horse slow down and bounce and mess up your aim" or "totally miss everything with your sword while on horse"
Be careful while exploring because you can literally stumble upon the final quest in the game as soon as you leave the vault.also i'm pretty afraid of getting the game because if this is true!
ahahaha, i was thinking about this too. THEY PROBABLY WILL! hey, did you know all of the exact same console codes from oblivion work on this too?
I mean, I know you get that car in Fallout 2 but getting some vehicle (unless it's like, riding a Brahmin or something) to drive would be fucking dumb.
I think the thing that's upsetting people the most is how much potential was wasted by certain decisions Bethesda made~
Despite all of the flaws... I found myself hooked once I sat down to play it myself (instead of watching someone else play) =X
I think the thing that's upsetting people the most is how much potential was wasted by certain decisions Bethesda made~
Also hey, how the HELL do you get to the Galaxy News Radio building when it gets marked on your map? I cannot find any path at all that leads to it.
by the way, it is really really dumb how any time you steal something it makes that annoying ominous sound. *picks up a butter knife, SWEEPING ORCHESTRAL MUSIC*
can i turn this off?
also this games too goddamn dark. is there a flashlight or something? i think i saw them mentioned in the topic, but i've yet to encounter one. i really have to strain my eyes to see anything in broad daylight; it's not such a great way to play!
MUST... SPEND..... MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!what no i had planned to save up to buy all 3 of these
I watched some vids on youtube ... it looks interresting.. but;
VATS seems overpowered compared to realtime aiming, how is this balanced?
I read this topic and most of you seem to have expected to be a true-to-form FPS, when in fact the Fallout series have been RPGs with guns in combat. So, as a fan of Fallout 2, I'm annoyed by the inclusion of a non-VATs shooting system, because at the end of the day, the Action Point system is what was the core of the first Fallouts. And people complain how it's "Oblivion with guns" and considering how Oblivion is an RPG, I'm happier for it to be that rather than "Halo in a post-apocalyptic future" (with baseball bats and 50s styling etc) Because it would ruin the fucking POINT of it.idk i just glanced at this but i liked oblivion so it's not like i consider it bad bad
idk i just glanced at this but i liked oblivion so it's not like i consider it bad badYeah, I'll be fair, I've pumped more than 200 hours into Oblivion with my best character reaching level 45 and on my 360 version (yes, I bought a PC and 360 copy) I have 1250 gamerscore... Oblivion just clicked with me in every way. Bar the shitty characters and awful writing.
Yeah, I'll be fair, I've pumped more than 200 hours into Oblivion with my best character reaching level 45 and on my 360 version (yes, I bought a PC and 360 copy) I have 1250 gamerscore... Oblivion just clicked with me in every way. Bar the shitty characters and awful writing.
I just wanted it to be more Fallout-like.
Speaking of comparisons with Oblivion. If your PC is capable of running Oblivion(to any extent), then will it have a harder time running this game? Or should I expect it to perform about the same?If you meet the recommended requirements for Oblivion, you can probably run Fallout 3 on low settings. If you can only run Oblivion on the minimum settings then I strongly doubt you will be able to run Fallout 3 (well, that is what I read up anyway).
i really like the beginning. not necessarily everything they do, but just the idea of it, really. i didn't care for the HEH NOW ARE YOU A BOY OR A GIRL, for example, but i really dug the YOU'RE SPECIAL book; that was pretty clever and a rather unobtrusive way to introduce character customization, which the previous things (name, appearance, gender) weren't as good at. people really don't spend enough time trying to weave the technical aspects of gameplay into what is supposed to be an immersive experience without killing said immersion.
indigo prophecy totally opened with the game director telling you to HOLD B, GOOD JOB, it was a bizarre unwelcome take.man you were completely right about this game. it was really, really fun and a great experience for the first hour or two and then it was just GUITAR DDR, DODGIN MONSTERS DDR, NIGHTMARE DDR and it kept going. piece of motherfucking shit. 'cause if it just continued like AN INTERACTIVE MOVIE or whatever it would've been pretty great but no they had to put their shitty DDR minigames in every activity. WANNA LISTEN TO THE STEREO SET? HERE'S BUTTON MASHING FOR 5 MINUTES HAVE FUN :)
sweet jesus man
why would you ever write such a huuuuuuuuge post over your favorite game
that is insane
give your fingers a break
sweet jesus man
why would you ever write such a huuuuuuuuge post over your favorite game
that is insane
give your fingers a break
The random encounters in this are awesome. I'm not sure if it's okay to call them random because I'm not sure how random they are but I just stumbled upon a crashed alien spaceship, a dead alien and an alien blaster gun. I've also come across some interesting things like this guy sitting on a throne yelling about how he is the roach king. He then attacked me with a minigun and a small army of 5 - 10 roaches. Also on my second playthrough I found "The Republic of Dave" which was pretty trippy, I didn't get a chance to really find out what they were all about though because as soon as I got into a dialogue I ended up pissing them off and killing them all, turns out Dave is a bit nuts.have you done anything but play this game in the past five days
have you done anything but play this game in the past five dayspretty sure i saw him log on TF2 through steam, so at least video games aren't his life
pretty sure i saw him log on TF2 through steam, so at least video games aren't his life:(
i am pretty surprised you are saying it isn't very significant when it's more in-depth than most pure shooters.iirc i said the exact opposite of this! i'm MODERATELY IMPRESSED with what you can do as far as limb-specific shots. in any case while i do like the impact of being able to target specific limbs, i don't think a lot of the other stuff you mentioned has any real impact on the quality of the battle system. like, i honestly couldn't care less if they flinch when i shoot their leg, and i think little additions like this are the last thing you should just a battle system on.
Also, as I asked before, has anyone finished the quest "Blood Ties" and made a Shishkebab?I got this weapon and it's pretty good. I'm not sure if it beats The Shocker in terms of close up combat, but the after effects of it are great. Even Super Mutants die in about 3 hits from it.
Sniper rifles are pretty terrible with vats. I'm not sure if I need perks or anything but you can't aim far away at all with it. I'm much more efficient using it without vats.Is there a zoom function?
I thought the same too, I hated both of the options. One option was TOO BAD and the other was TOO GOOD.does this mean i can't do it if i already disarmed the bomb? :(Hidden content (Click to reveal)All you have to do is find a way into tenpenny tower and chat with the general guy to find where the ghouls are hiding out. I headed down there because I wasn't sure if I wanted to kill the ghouls, the reward seemed pretty shit. When you get to Roy who is the leader of the ghouls, he'll tell you a bunch of things and you can either make a truce with tenpenny and the ghouls, kill Roy, or invade the place with a bunch of feral ghouls on your side. I won't spoil what you get besides the suite, but the rewards are definitely worth it.
And yeah, there is a zoom function on sniper rifles.
:(
also im poor someone tell me how to make tons of caps
The closest game this feels like would be deus ex.
Uhh...no, just no. Beyond 'they are first person RPGs' there's very little similarities between the two.Fallout 3 is probably more like Deus Ex than what Deus Ex 3 is going to be, by the sounds of things.
So you're basically saying the best way to make money in the game is to cheat? Nice advice there.shut up, this is the best advice yet
Uhh...no, just no. Beyond 'they are first person RPGs' there's very little similarities between the two.
yes maladroithim, that is how i'm playing too, although i'm playing on the computer. i rarely don't use vats and it feels a lot like vagrant story. in fact, that is the same comparison i made in my head too. the few times i shoot without vats is when i'm waiting to regain ap, but for the most part, enemies are way too fast and too difficult to hit. they seem to sort of glide across the ground and it's a little unfair i think!
anyway, where are you guys finding all these companions? i've only found two guys, jericho, who wouldn't join me, and this woman in the national archives, where i am now, but i think she'll probably leave after i'm done with this quest. i also found a prostitute named cherry at dukov's place who wanted to go to rivet city, but i didn't take her with me and now i don't have the option to take her anymore. did i just screw it up or what? i'm level 14 and i feel like i should have a companion, but i just haven't found any.
Just watching your character move from a third person perspective is laughably bad because of how dated it looks. Is there even an excuse for this?The excuse: It's Bethesda, who actually can't create animation for shit.
i also found a prostitute named cherry at dukov's place who wanted to go to rivet city, but i didn't take her with me and now i don't have the option to take her anymore. did i just screw it up or what? i'm level 14 and i feel like i should have a companion, but i just haven't found any.haha yeah i did this too
Read This: Fcuk Yuo(http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/36080/Untitled-1.jpg)
Well just to restate what I said earlier because some people didn't get it. I was talking about the fact of carrying around more then one type of gun because then it makes it easier to find ammo, as you are drawing from multiple pools. I was comparing it to another game known as Deus Ex, in which it is common to do the same.NO.....JUST NO
Anyway, I'm contemplating whether or not I should blow up Megaton, I actually managed to bribe Burke into offering 500 caps for the job, but I still don't have a high enough explosives skill. I was playing around with the quick save and load to see how certain choices affected my karma among other things (by the way, completely broken mechanic as you can basically fly through the game as if you were using an emulator) and killing him actually increases your karma, but saving the sheriff from him yields absolutely no reward other than the crappy item drops Burke has, so that was pointless.
haha yeah i did this too
also q...qft.... on that GLIDING ACROSS THE SCREEN thing. i honestly have no idea how gz is playing this and pulling off leg shots and shit without vats.
I loved how in the original games if you shot someone in the groin or the eyes other characters would go "Ouch, that's got to hurt!" and the characters you shot would say hilarious things like "oooh, i'm gonna get you" even though you just blew their testicles off.I loved the way you could do that with children.
I loved the way you could do that with children.
Hell yeah that was some good fun.There are several mods out right now, but none that are created with a construction set. - http://www.fallout3nexus.com/
Also for anyone playing this on the PC like I am, if you look at the launch menu it says "data files." So that pretty much confirms that there will be something to allow mods or for creation of mods, otherwise Bethesda wouldn't need to put it there.
one thing im kinda annoyed about is there is no YOURE ABOUT TO EXPLODE indicator. ive quicksaved like 5 times unknowing of the grenade or about-to-explode-car right behind me ._.
got my copy in the mail today... I have just entered Megaton town and is it just me or does the game feel very Mediocre.
- Character Animation is horrible, 3Th person = shit, cutscene animation is weak as well.
- Walking around is slowpaced and feels bulky.
- The environment is beautiful, however the graphics are not.. and I'm running on Full-settings.
- Battle system is way too slow, the beginning with the baseball bat was horrible...
the game just feels so cheap. maybe I need to play it more but this even feels like a downgrade from oblivion
How could anyone call this Oblivion with guns (Click to reveal)(http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/52939/fallout3shotoasis1.jpg)(http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/52939/fallout3shotoasis.jpg)
I can't even tell which ones which, they could've atleast change the colour of the hud. I didn't think there would be a forest in Oblivion though, or atleast one so normal looking.
is there a way to get stuff back from abraham washington after you give it to him? i gave him something i think i need for another quest.
what's the level cap? i thought it'd be like 99 or some shit.
Where did you guys pick the game up at at? I've tried Walmart 3 days in a row, but they haven't changed stock in those 3 days I guess because the exact same ammount of games are in the same positions are they have been. I tried to see if Target had it in stock, but I went to their website and it said it wasn't available in stores. Those are pretty much the only places I have around here.amazon.com
20.wow, that's really low! why would they do that man, that's dumb
I don't remember exactly but I think level cap for fallout 1/2 was 24.
Nah, it's definately 20. I have just recently played through both of them, the cap is 20.
I agree with Maladroithim though, it is far too easy to hit the cap. If it was slower I think it would be better, rather than hitting the cap when halfway through the game and losing the fun of actually DOING things for experience. It all makes it pointless if all you're rewarded is items and not experience.
Has anyone else hit the level cap uncomfortably soon? I understand that the intent is to encourage you to go and make a different character than just level one up until you are an expert at everything, but . . . it just seems to happen way too soon.yeah idk i'm barely through the game at all, been doing side quests and stuff...
I never understood the rabid desire to level up to higher numbers over the desire to progress through a storyline. Sure you kick more ass but it's never had that much appeal. GRINDING up the levels just seems a horrible task which is pointless when I play games to relax. It seems too much like... working.well what's funny is more or less i haven't been grinding, i've just been getting my ass kicked then reloading getting ass kicked reloading then finally beating the 10 super mutants in a single room and shit like that i keep stumbling upon through my quests.
It's pretty much the same specs as Oblivion. I ran Oblivion on the highest settings with HDR,no AA, and 1440x900 res with some stuttering in heavily populated areas and such. And I'm running Fallout 3 on ultra high settings with HDR, 1280x720 with AA set to 4 and AF set to 8 with literally no lag or slowdowns. I'd say it's probably less CPU/GPU draining than Oblivion what with the lack of tons of trees and foliage everywhere, and it still looks as good if not better than Oblivion (graphics wise). So I think you should be fine if your comp can play Oblivion well.
Has anyone heard about any official mods coming out for this?
EDIT: Here's the Fallout 3 specs, just in case. It doesn't have a Recommended System Requirement section though.
Processor-2.4GHz
Memory-1 GB RAM
Video Card-Nvidia Geforce 6800, ATI x850, minimum
I finally got fallout 3 but it feels different...it doesn't feel like fallout at all anyone getting this feeling too?
Anybody know how to hack computers? I mean I can't even hack the "very easy" ones, how the hell am I supposed to do this? I wanna hack the one in the Super Duper Mart...
Thanks guys the hacking paid off not easy though, btw anybody know what kind of weapons you can make with misc items? Like waht combined with what will make what weapon?
:shocking: WTF? theres vampires in fallout 3? I've just been treking all around the wasteland.They're not vampires. They're cannibals with distorted morals.
I didn't even know you could get perks outside of leveling up. I helped some chick in Megaton do research and for one of the things I had to get 200 rads and see her, or 600 rads. I chose 600 rads and got a perk that let me regen crippled body parts anytime I'm at 400+ rads.
Just beat the game a few hours ago... didn't even explore half of the Wasteland. The ending was kinda "ehh..." to me. Since even an evil character has to Save the world. If i'm wrong let me know... I played as a good guy the first time.
Just beat the game a few hours ago... didn't even explore half of the Wasteland. The ending was kinda "ehh..." to me. Since even an evil character has to Save the world. If i'm wrong let me know... I played as a good guy the first time.
Just beat the game a few hours ago... didn't even explore half of the Wasteland. The ending was kinda "ehh..." to me. Since even an evil character has to Save the world. If i'm wrong let me know... I played as a good guy the first time.
in general i have noticed from QUICKSAVE that speech skips big parts of any given quest. i typically never play high speech characters, but i find it a bit lame that high speech essentially removes gameplay instead of presenting other opportunities (it does SOMETIMES, but rarely). even if i can talk my way out of things i usually don't because you typically miss out on things.
I suspect not however because you have to CLEAR OUT THE JEFFERSON MEMORIAL and I'm sure there are other points where combat is forced on you and there is no speech option to get out of it.
Also in F2, Speech was not just SUBVERTING THE QUEST, it was a different outcome for the quest, you would still recieve exp and level up just as fast.
... 10 foot tall behemoth. Thankfully those dudes are slow
I only fought two or three in random encounters and they move as fast as super mutants.how so?
Anyways, I installed some mod that adds "realistic" weapon damage and it's pretty great. Shooting someone in the head actually does damage! As a result, I put the difficulty to very hard and holy crap the experience of playing the game is 30x better.
how so?
too bad i'm playing on 360 and putting it on very hard = cheap deathes by deathclaws and super mutant masters.
oh and btw what'd i say earlier in this topic! i hadn't even progressed far through the story i just did tranquility lane and i was already at the level cap of 20. stupid 360 version makes me sad :(
Man Marcus, those mods sound pretty cool. Can you give me some links to them? Rather than trying to find them myself. I'm liking the sound of realistic damage+hard difficulty+realistic food. I just finished my first playthrough and I'm planning on doing another on a harder difficulty, so those mods would be great.
fallout3nexus dot com. just scour the mod page as there's only 60 or so files and most of them are worth downloading. there's even a sound pack that doesn't make the weapons sound like fucking pop guns.
i don't know what it is with vidya developers and thinking firearms sound like those little mexican popper things.
I've had some horirible AI problems, involving a super mutant brute allowing me to go up to him and lob a bottle cap mine at his feet with him looking at me and not giving a shit. It was... interesting, to say the least.
What's your karma because some characters won't attack you depending on your karma.Pretty low, but the Super Mutant whirred up his minigun up and fired about three bullets in total at me before not shooting at me anymore and I layed a couple of shots in him before lobbing the mine at his feet, so I'd think that's a bug.
So uh, I got Fallout 3 for the PC. It runs great on my computer, amazingly. I mean, I don't have it on max, but high settings will do. Sometimes Fallout 3 will crash when I load too many maps in a small amount of time(Like in Rivet city where you have a map to another part of the ship behind the door just to your right). Any suggestions for that? Also, I beat the game. Beat... Beat it. I was surprised when it... ended.I have the motorcycle gas tank in that [insert ][/insert] shelter next to the subway, it's in the wasteland opposite the ten penny towers. I have only seen two of these, btw what weapon can you make with it?
So I made a new character and decided to be an entrepreneur. I need help with a couple of things actually. Namely Mirelurks and finding parts for weapons. See, every time I fight a mirelurk it seems to completely dominate me. With headbutting. Normally, this wouldn't be a problem but I can't hurt a mirelurk for shit. I mean, if I see a deathclaw I find the nearest hole to hide in, but mirelurks usually protect things that I need to get to. Like the Blood Ties quest.
Secondly, I have no idea where to get a motorcycle gas tank.(I usually check the shops) Or for that matter, most of the parts required to make the weapons for the schematics I have.
the good ol' flaming sword, the shiskebab.:sad: Crap why did I throw all my darts away... :tsk:
i just got the dart gun schematic, it will be nice using all the darts i have :D​!
one time i shot a bear and it flew way up into the sky and didn't come back down for like 2 minutes.yeah this game has glitches abound like this
one time i shot a bear and it flew way up into the sky and didn't come back down for like 2 minutes.
:sad: Crap why did I throw all my darts away... :tsk:
Secondly, I have no idea where to get a motorcycle gas tank.(I usually check the shops) Or for that matter, most of the parts required to make the weapons for the schematics I have.
I have a fun game to play! It's called 'Who can find the most major quests/misc shit directly ripped from Fallout 1/2?'. I will go first.Hidden content (Click to reveal)Obviously dogmeat, who's apparently lived for over 100 years and travelled across the continent. Obviously his overly long life has taken a toll on his health and usefulness.
A cult worshipping the unexploded atom bomb. This was first in fallout 1, and the end result was (shock) you BLOW IT UP. This reappeared in Fallout Tactics, and hey ho it's back.
The Forced Evolutionary Virus to make supermutants. It's back, and it was apparently developed in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOCATION (a vault, rather than the VATS (lol) from Fallout 1. It's also been made totally independantly and without communication, and yet has the same name, and same results.
BOTH main quests.
1) The purifier quest. Fix thepurifierwater chip. Also note there's logs saying the vault's waterchip is dying as well.
2) The G.E.C.K. quest. I don't even need to explain why this is a copy of fallout 2. Note the circumstances of 'gaining' a GECK are exactly the same, as is the MAJOR Deus Ex Machina that extends the plotline, with ENCLAVE intervention, immediately afterwards.
3) The rescuing your dad thing. This is somewhat new (there's similarities to Arroyo, but it's different as well). It's also the shittiest part of the main quest...hrm...
The 'return to the vault' quest. Congratulations! You've saved your vault! They are going to prosper now, and everyone is happy again. What's your thanks? Fuck off and never come back. Here's guessing Fallout 4 starts you in a tribal village. Actually, ignore that. There isn't any tribals whatsoever in glorious motherfucking america these days.
The ENCLAVE. Apparently you wiped out the president--and their main base--in Fallout 2. Apparently you were wrong. Furthermore being run by a 'president' TWICE makes no sense, as the computer has somehow (rather conveniently) gained the persona of a president by it's own will.
Getting captured and breaking out of the ENCLAVE base - how can you not liken this to infiltrating and breaking out of the base in Fallout 2.
Furthermore in the ENCLAVE base, finding a caged Deathclaw and breaking it loose, setting it upon the ENCLAVE.
The 'Vault Dweller'. Yep, head off to little lamplight and now you're being called the Vault Dweller.
I had a few more when I was joking about this with my mate on steam, but I have forgotten them all.
Also I would like to add that the giant amount of patriotism in this game is making me feel physically sick. I don't mind the 'god bless america' shit (lie), but god DAMN. It's EVERYWHERE ughhhhhh. Make it stop!
Obviously dogmeat, who's apparently lived for over 100 years and travelled across the continent. Obviously his overly long life has taken a toll on his health and usefulness.
The Forced Evolutionary Virus to make supermutants. It's back, and it was apparently developed in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOCATION (a vault, rather than the VATS (lol) from Fallout 1. It's also been made totally independantly and without communication, and yet has the same name, and same results.
The 'return to the vault' quest. Congratulations! You've saved your vault! They are going to prosper now, and everyone is happy again. What's your thanks? Fuck off and never come back.
The ENCLAVE. Apparently you wiped out the president--and their main base--in Fallout 2. Apparently you were wrong. Furthermore being run by a 'president' TWICE makes no sense, as the computer has somehow (rather conveniently) gained the persona of a president by it's own will.
This is probably a nod to Van Buren as the original script for BI's Fallout 3 concluded with a crazy scientist who wanted to spread F.E.V. through orbital satellites.
Looks like Bethesda took out the quest to nuke Megaton in the Japanese release of Fallout 3.
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47046&start=0
So is this any good? From what Sarevok told me it's not (he said it's Oblivion with guns), but he's Sarevok so...
But then I really hated Oblivion and Morrowind (ughggh) and I haven't enjoyed an FPS since Doom. I loved Fallout 2 and I generally like post apocalyptic settings, but this.... what is this? Mixed reviews everywhere...
Edit:
Do NOT go to Old Olney(Oldney?). DO NOT.
There are... Deathclaws.... everywhere...
When I went to Old Oldney, there was only one Deathclaw and I killed it. But then I got ambushed by the Enclave, so maybe that's why there was only one. I dunno.Well if you're an unlucky dumbass like me, you might fall into the loose sewer grate which takes you down below into the sewer. Where they are. I mean, there SHOULD be a couple up top but there's like six in the sewers.
So uh guys.they're not that hard with a repaired chinese assault rifle if you leveled your character with an emphasis on small guns and accuracy perks.
I killed a Death Claw.
I killed a Death Claw.es.
Man I warezed the PC version (I bought it for the 360) and god damn it looks 100% better on PC. I've got a 37" Samsung TV blahbalh HD etc and it honestly looks MUDDY on the 360, like the textures and shit are overly dark I find and there's like no anti aliasing. Maybe this is just from being upscled that much but still, it looks so much better on the PC! Then again, I never really TINKERED with my TV colours like a "true HD enthusiast" so maybe that's the problem.
because it was one of those things where a guy, 100 miles away created them by himself in isolation despite the fact on the opposite side of the country, 20 years ago or whatever, someone else did the exact same thing. Fire Ants didn't crawl across the continent or whatever, some mad scientist made them in the metro tunnels of that town.
they're not that hard with a repaired chinese assault rifle if you leveled your character with an emphasis on small guns and accuracy perks.NEEEEEEEERD
the plasma rifle can kill them in one shot too if you've got high energy weapons skill
NEEEEEEEERDLol I thought the same thing after I posted that but then I remembered that I'm posting on a videogame forum so I think that kinda goes without saying
I'm pretty positive fire ants weren't in any previous Fallout.
There were FIRE GECKOS and giant ants, but fire ants are fallout 3 exclusive.
EDIT
Oh yeah, Sarevok, regarding F.E.V., if you read the messages on the computer you learn that their construction of the F.E.V. was part of their Vault Experiment as dictated by the government in 2077 or whatever just like how Vault 13 was supposed to stay closed for 200 years. The F.E.V. in Fallout 3 is also different as it creates yellow super mutants and modified centaurs and it's only similar to western F.E.V. in name only.
And you find the GECK in Vault 87. In Fallout 2 deathclaws give you the GECK.
How this is THE EXACT SAME QUEST is beyond me.
NERD OFFFFFF
wow i must be going insane, i'm sure I remember there being fire ants in fallout 2.
wow i must be going insane, i'm sure I remember there being fire ants in fallout 2.Dude there were no fire ants deal with it lol.
this is kinda off topic but uh... where does avatar come from because i can't stop staring at it and it motivates me for some reason. i guess it's the endearing, child-like sense of awe and wonder with its simplistic design and bold line art.
oh... um... HEY THERE CHIIIIILDREEEEN THIS ISSS THREEEEEE DOGGG (on topic post)
soon enough you will be able to receive Galaxy news from anywhere across the mapWell I've already beat the game. That's not the point. I just thought since the recordings for the radio stations are stored in multiple sound files it'd be an obvious target for modding.
Yeah there's only 17 sidequests. Most of them take a relatively long time though, and there are also other quests that can morph into bigger ones.Yeah, don't forget they are so detailed in the multiple paths you can take through these quests, the sheer flexibility is immense.
and im a melee character.I tried that. It worked for awhile until people started using shotguns.
I haven't played any of the other Fallout's but would like to try this. But yeah do you have to play the first 2 for it to make sense? (I've played oblivion so i know that sense)I found it pretty comprehensible without much research on the other two games. Though, if you look back at the other two games there are a few plot holes. None the less.
or is it more like 'heh reference to the other game' in some places.
because Fallout 3 is an RPG, rather controversial, followup to pretty much the quintessential cult classic series and GoW2 is just a third person shooter.Not only that, but consider the scale of difference in these sequels:
Yeah, you skipped pretty much half the story.LOL, are you serious? wow I am not going there then... well not yet anyway...
LOL, are you serious? wow I am not going there then... well not yet anyway...Yeah that's pretty much the free reign thing.
Yeah that's pretty much the free reign thing.Yeah that's exactly what I forgot to say, it's FALLOUT you could also do the same in the previous games, in Fallout and Fallout 2 I remember someone here posting how they accidentally done the same thing.
You can do whatever you want, and you can find your dad on your own. It's actually weird to know that there's a game where they don't limit you from cutting into the story wherever, though it's also bad to skip half the story so who knows!
but im evil........., I actually want to search him out and kill him
and im a melee character.
I find it hard to be a stuck-up / evil wanderer who only cares for things that matter to him with the low amount of quests which mostly are Karma positive
If you want to be/are an evil character, but you still want to get that Plasma Rifle, it's easy. Just be an asshole. Go to the android, be nice to him, get the rifle of him, and then go and tell Zimmer who the android is. You get more of a Karma drop for double-crossing the android.Does this mean that the storyline could be altered in someway so that your Dad lives?
and yeah, you can finish Fallout 3 pretty fast. I'd say you could finish it in under an hour and a half quite easily, you just need to go to Vault 112 and find out about the GECK then go to Vault 87 and get captured by the Enclave and then skip to Rivet City, then do the end part. Pretty easy.
Also, does anyone know if you can go straight to Vault 87 and skip the entire "find your dad" part?
Well I actually did meet three-dog and did his quest, and I did go to rivet city to meet Doctor Li.
I just didn't go to the Franklin memorial to find dad, so I guess I didn't miss much
and thx for the tip Ears, ill do just that
but im evil........., I actually want to search him out and kill him
and im a melee character.
I find it hard to be a stuck-up / evil wanderer who only cares for things that matter to him with the low amount of quests which mostly are Karma positive
megaton... ? Never been to a town called megaton *starts to whistle*.Dunwhich is a massive tribute to Lovecraft, Fun place. Full of Gouls. Has a melee weapons bobblehead. Thats about it really.
Thx for the tip Ax dude.
Anyone got some quests to recommend because Im searching for something to do in the game, instead of the main quest., also anyone checked out the Dunwhich building apperently some bad shit went on in there
Also, does anyone know if you can go straight to Vault 87 and skip the entire "find your dad" part?
I killed some guys that wore Outcast Power Armor or something a while ago, but I can't equip it, how long into the story can I start equipping it? I think I just finished the part where you help your dad and Doctor Li at some memorial or monument. Also I started a new character and gave her 1 luck and 1 charisma. then kept adding the perk that gave you plus one SPECIAL point. She has like 10 STR, 9 AGI, 10 Int, 6 Perception, and like 7 END at level 3-4. So many quests I missed out on for my first character because of the killing pretty much everyone. I did that Ant Infestation quest and got a perk that gave +1 Perception and 25% resistance to fire. Whats some of the better perks you guys during the game that you can't get when you level up.If you can find Oasis there's a quest there that gives you a really good perk. If you do the Wasteland Survival Guide (the quest that can be found in Megaton) and do all of the optional objectives. ALL of them, you get a perk that reduces your damage. You also get another perk along the way, I forget what it is though. Other than that, I'm not really sure what other perks you can get.
woa 300+ rads... did somone check that place out yet?
Also where the fuck is Rockopolis and the Death Claw sanctuary? I have been wondering around this south-western map area for fucking days.
Yes, because direct exposure to an atom bomb will give you 80 years of radiation and definately won't vaporise you.
Yes, because direct exposure to an atom bomb will give you 80 years of radiation and definately won't vaporise you.
it's north of dunwich, quite a bit. It's in that general area between Dunwich - Yao Guia - Little Lamplight and west of Evergreen Mills.yeah gotta be vault 87. you have two ways to get into it, both through little lamplight; one is a computer terminal you gotta hack, and the other is through Murder Pass.
If you hit little lamplight you've gone too far north, dunwich is too far south and evergreen mills is too far east.
You also have to remember the giant irony of it. Only the most annoying person from Megaton survived.
isnt that just bad fucking luck instead of irony...Not, it's just fucking bad, full stop.
i don't want to derail the topic too much, but i actually have statistics on nuclear weapons (go militaryfag!)
The bomb at Megaton is a traditional fission A-bomb and these designed for small cities and soft military targets. Since the bomb was dropped right near Springvale, a little suburban area, I'm going to assume it was about 10kt which isn't that powerful at all. A 10kt bomb will vaporize pretty much anything within 200 feet of it and destroy most buildings within maybe 1/3 of a mile.
Now here's the thing about fission bombs; unlike thermonuclear bombs, a fission bomb's destruction relies solely on it's payload. Also, nuclear bombs explode up giving it the mushroom shaped appearance and while the explosion does travel outwards, majority of the energy goes up meaning taller buildings get the most devastating force of the blast.
In other words, it's entirely plausible that someone inside of a sturdy building can survive within ground zero. They'll probably end up dying of radiation poison within a few minutes, but a strong, low lying building can protect you from the blast. Also, Megaton's bomb had been leaking for the past 200 years so it only had a fraction of its original power.
Also, this is a fucking game and every time you bring real world science into obvious science-fiction (LOOK ROBOTS AND LASERS AND GIANT SCORPIONS OH MY) God kills a catgirl.
Please, think of the catgirls.
Not, it's just fucking bad, full stop.go do the quest "you gotta shoot 'em in the head" then get the T-51b power armor (by going to the fort place instead of giving the keys back to the ghoul). then like a little more than halfway through the story you can get trained to wear it. easily the best armor in the game.
And just out of interest, what armour is everyone using here?
I'm preserving all my brotherhood of steel armour in some lockers and I'm currently using the enclave shock armour (or whatever it's called) and the regulator duster and oasis hood if I need to be more agile.
go do the quest "you gotta shoot 'em in the head" then get the T-51b power armor (by going to the fort place instead of giving the keys back to the ghoul). then like a little more than halfway through the story you can get trained to wear it. easily the best armor in the game.I've been looking it up, but I get the impression you can only get it by getting bad karma? Is there another way, or do I have to put up with it?
I've been looking it up, but I get the impression you can only get it by getting bad karma? Is there another way, or do I have to put up with it?
Yes, there is a way to do it without getting bad karma. You need to talk to everyone and make them give you the key without killing them. Also I would just kill tenpenny as you get GOOD karma from killing him. Then just go get the armor and never talk the ghoul again.Well... Time to start question at 1:30 in the morning again!
Yes, there is a way to do it without getting bad karma. You need to talk to everyone and make them give you the key without killing them. Also I would just kill tenpenny as you get GOOD karma from killing him. Then just go get the armor and never talk the ghoul again.As far as I know you HAVE to kill Tenpenny.
As far as I know you HAVE to kill Tenpenny.
thanks for gaying up the facts with a 4chan quote at the end.lol it's pretty gay that you knew that quote was from 4chan
Not, it's just fucking bad, full stop.
And just out of interest, what armour is everyone using here?
I'm preserving all my brotherhood of steel armour in some lockers and I'm currently using the enclave shock armour (or whatever it's called) and the regulator duster and oasis hood if I need to be more agile.
lol it's pretty gay that you knew that quote was from 4chan
Medical Power Armor. It talks to you. I got it in some tunnel or something.
I think power armor looks fucking gay so I just use whatever I feel looks best at the time. I was running around naked for the longest time, then I used some merc grunt armor or something and then a regulator duster. Anything above that starts making your head look way too small for it's body.
I have like 8 power armors in my house and the ability to use them but pff they just look stupid so frack it.
I don't but I do know that GOD KILLS A KITTEN WHEN YOU MASTURBATE thing is internet old hat, and marcus visits 4chan a lot and 4chan is full of stupid catgirl neko chan shit.
I don't but I do know that GOD KILLS A KITTEN WHEN YOU MASTURBATE thing is internet old hat, and marcus visits 4chan a lot and 4chan is full of stupid catgirl neko chan shit.^^;;;;
I've been wondering what perk to choose at level 20. I've narrowed it down to either the grim reaper sprint or the one that gives a small stat boost and healing in direct sunlight (or another of the lower level perks).
The only worthwhile perk I really hate is pyromaniac, the required 60 points in explosives is annoying because I rarely use them, not to mention the fact that most explosive weapons aren't fire based.
And it was in the center of a crater surrounded by buildings and a wall made out of airplane parts (not that it would really matter).
Be careful of Deathclaws there and in the Old Olney sewer too.Yeah, I accidentally bumped into Old Olney the other day... That was a shocker. I was celebrating after I took out two of them seperately, then realised there was about another three around the corner into a single pack.
Yeah, I accidentally bumped into Old Olney the other day... That was a shocker. I was celebrating after I took out two of them seperately, then realised there was about another three around the corner into a single pack.Yeah, it was fun as hell to try to pull them out one by one, wasn't it? Land mines and hunting riffleesss.(Repaired, that is)
Like, I really want to just kill the dude who made them for making such a stupid creature.I think you can, in the game... (It's an experiement gone wrong) ... (Unless you WERE refering to the dude in the game).
I think you can, in the game... (It's an experiement gone wrong) ... (Unless you WERE refering to the dude in the game).
Operation: Anchorage: Enter a military simulation and fight in one of the greatest battles of the Fallout universe – the liberation of Anchorage, Alaska from its Chinese Communist invaders. An action-packed battle scheduled for release in January.
The Pitt: Journey to the industrial raider town called The Pitt, located in the remains of Pittsburgh. Choose your side. Scheduled for release in February.
Broken Steel: Join the ranks of the Brotherhood of Steel and rid the Capital Wasteland of the Enclave remnants once and for all. Continues the adventure past the main quest. Scheduled for release in March.
HOLY CRAP, I JUST REALISED YOU CAN TIP BRAHMIN BY GOING UP TO THEM WHEN SNEAKING AND PRESSING ACTION.
Best feature of any game, ever.
This is really new to me.SUPER BRAHMIN TIPPER PERK: gives you a + 15 to all of your SPECIAL stats and + 150 to all of your skills for two in-game hours, everytime you tip a Brahmin.
There should be a perk "Brahmin Tipper."
I'm so going to make a Chainsword and put it ingame. Chainswords are awesome.
So has anyone found all of the Behemoths without using the guide? I've only found one other than the brute that you get to fight once you find Galaxy News Radio.I found 2 without using the guide, the one trapped in the giant cage and the one in that building in the capital area fighting those soldiers (i forget??)
If you go due north of Tenpenny Tower and keep looking to your left before you get to the river you'll see a big pit of white rocks with a railroad track running through it. If you head into the ravine you'll eventually start seeing traincars with landmines on either side of them. Turns out to be a pretty big raider camp complete with a few slaves to free (if you're into that sort of thing).
The real surprise is that there's a fucking behemoth that they've CAPTURED and it's being held in a big pen with an electrified door. If you shoot the generator right beside the door then it'll escape and you can readily expend all of your ammunition trying to kill it.
The real surprise is that there's a fucking behemoth that they've CAPTURED and it's being held in a big pen with an electrified door. If you shoot the generator right beside the door then it'll escape and you can readily expend all of your ammunition trying to kill it.I saw that before, does anyone know if they'll kill the Raiders if he's released, saving a lot of ammo in both killing the Raiders AND the Behemoth. Also if the raiders DO kill him, does it still count towards the achievement for killing all the Behemoths?
I don't believe the raiders would have the firepower to kill it unless it some how got stuck.Naturally, but you could really weaken it yourself with the missiles etc, but they could get the last shot in.
Naturally, but you could really weaken it yourself with the missiles etc, but they could get the last shot in.
I just beat this and all I gots to say is liberty prime is a mofuckin badass.really? i thought the idea of the robot was funny but that whole part felt so boring.
Like that was my favorite part of the game right there.
I saw that before, does anyone know if they'll kill the Raiders if he's released, saving a lot of ammo in both killing the Raiders AND the Behemoth. Also if the raiders DO kill him, does it still count towards the achievement for killing all the Behemoths?
really? i thought the idea of the robot was funny but that whole part felt so boring.
the typical FOLLOW THIS CHARACTER THAT MOVES SLOWLY until you reach a destination.
It would have been better if they wrote dialogue for the entire run... but nope. After a few minutes it just gets needlessly repetitive. They could have done without 2/3 of the run.
yeah i kind of want to get it, is there much replay value like oblivion/morrowind?
Personally I think it's a good game and although the game ends there are still many ways to have a different play every time. Also Bethesda is bringing out 3 DLC's in January, February and March so that should add some replay value. Also the GECK construction set is being released sometime this month, so that'll mean new mods will get released so the replay value will just go up.
GECK is short of Garden of Eden Creation Kit... a story related term for the fallout Series. It's also the name they gave to what I am assuming is an official, user friendly editor pack, since modding is already possible through unofficial means.
If I had a PC and not this silly Mac I'd get this and make Fallout: Montreal.
OH MY GODIf you were to say... make a really big dungeon that takes at least 2 hours to go through(taking time to pick up everything) I would be happy.
MAN, Thank you SO MUCH. This makes things so much easier!
Awesome. Now it's time for me to make some new areas. Got any suggestions?
Is there any talk of Fallout 1 or 2 being made with the Fallout 3 engine?? That would be pimptastic.
Lots.
I gave the Winterized Power Armor to Charon, since I didn't want it to lose quality.
Is there any talk of Fallout 1 or 2 being made with the Fallout 3 engine?? That would be pimptastic.
Can I get away with 1gb ram on vista?Yeah you probably can but it'll run slow as hell. To compensate, you'll probably have to turn off all unneccisary services and disable the visual themes. You'd be surprised how much that helps.
Anyone know if I can beat this game without killing any monsters? I want to save the world. :(You could get away with half a dozen super mutants and a good number of enclave soldiers, although it'd be hard.
Yep, lots of hoarded stealth boys, lots of speech skills, lots of sneak skill, and lots of saving/reloading trial and error. I managed to do it, however I ran for my life through Raven whatever-it's-called-big-bad-enclave-stronghold that gives off the feeling of doom.
Yep, lots of hoarded stealth boys, lots of speech skills, lots of sneak skill, and lots of saving/reloading trial and error. I managed to do it, however I ran for my life through Raven whatever-it's-called-big-bad-enclave-stronghold that gives off the feeling of doom.What about when your dad tells you to kill all the super mutants in project purity?