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Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Maximo on October 27, 2008, 07:59:16 am
So, Gaming World. I need your help. I'm 6'6" and I weigh in at 152 pounds. I'm severely underweight. My goal is to gain 80-100 pounds, and to do so in under 6 months. Not fat though, I want to gain muscle weight. How would I go about doing this? I've looked around online but people are only interested in LOSING weight, not gaining it. I've talked to nutritionists and they've told me to drink Pedialyte (or however it's spelled) and eat red meat and chicken, while consuming a high calorie diet. The security guard where I work used to play football for CSU and he told me that when his coaches wanted him to gain weight, he consumed 8,000 calories per day. I wanted to try this, but the problem is I have limited amounts of time, because I have either school and/or work everyday, so it's difficult to set aside times to just chow down that much.

Not only this, but I'm on a strict budget because I need to get my Jeep back out of the shop and it's expensive to get everything I need on it, so I don't have much money left over, therefore I need a variety of food and drink that can help me to gain weight without making my wallet lose weight (so no truffles). Any help would be greatly appreciated, and 6 months sounds absurd, but it's been done before in even less time. Thanks!
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on October 27, 2008, 09:18:21 am
goota bulk up. gotta bulk up for the big game. gotta put some meat on those chicken legs

get a big weight, a giant weight, like a bucket of wet sand or a tyre of concrete or whatever you can find,  one that you can lift maybe 2 times max with each arm. every second day, pick it up once in the morning, slowly, once with each arm. then hold it in front of you and squat with it.

drink a good amount of water every day, but not enough that you have to pee a lot. avoid doing lots of small things quickly, prefering a big thing slowly. move and think bigger, you will become bigger.

as long as you eat a reasonably balanced diet, these tips will bulk you up a couple of kg's in 2-3 weeks or you're doing it wrong. try to eat slowly, if you don't have time then eat higher energy foods (peanut butter is great for this) slowly rather than lots of low energy foods quickly.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Farren on October 27, 2008, 09:34:07 am
You can use criotine if you're weightlifting. Its just for that, gaining weight/muscle while lifting weights.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Vellfire on October 27, 2008, 10:30:56 am
The security guard where I work used to play football for CSU and he told me that when his coaches wanted him to gain weight, he consumed 8,000 calories per day. I wanted to try this, but the problem is I have limited amounts of time, because I have either school and/or work everyday, so it's difficult to set aside times to just chow down that much.

It kind of feels like this is your problem in the first place.  You're probably underweight because you're not eating properly, and it's probably because you don't set aside the TIME to eat properly.  Eating right is really important dude, you need to make time for it.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: headphonics on October 27, 2008, 10:33:10 am
80-100lbs still seems like too much for 6'6".  don't you wanna be like 210 for that height?  i could easily be wrong here since i know nothing at all about this stuff but yeah, what you're going for seems like it'd end up being pretty husky.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: fatty on October 27, 2008, 10:43:54 am
Yeah, just go to 210lbs dude. Weighing 250 lbs and standing at 6'6" is not exactly a pleasant thing, and I'm speaking out of personal experience here. Eat lots of red and white meat and lots of salad and WORK THE FUCK OUT. Seriously. Unless you actually want to gain lots of body fat aswell, for which the only advice I can give you is to have an unbalanced diet and eat without a schedule, whenever you feel like it. Oh and try eating junk food, although you should watch out, addiction is a really shit thing too.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Mama Luigi on October 27, 2008, 01:14:56 pm
idk about eating loads of red meat and chicken maybe that would be a good idea if your goal was to get heart disease and cancer but
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Lars on October 27, 2008, 02:03:09 pm
what is eating chicken dangerous for heart??
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: maladroithim on October 27, 2008, 02:21:06 pm
Just take in more calories dude.  But you don't want to eat lots of fatty crap like red meat because you will be unhealthy :(​  If you want to get lots of calories in without spending lots of money, eat lots of carbs - pasta, cereal, and especially rice are all pretty cheap.  Red meat, on the hand, isn't!
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Ryan on October 27, 2008, 02:23:35 pm
eat a lot more, and lift weights. if you're doing enough exercise while eating enough you'll gain weight as muscle rather than as fat.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: ATARI on October 27, 2008, 02:33:38 pm
10 gallon drum of swiss rolls
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Mama Luigi on October 27, 2008, 04:25:06 pm
what is eating chicken dangerous for heart??
idk for sure, I guess I meant that statement more towards the red meat thing as there have been a significant amount of studies linking red meat to cardiovascular disease, forms of cancer, diabetes and a few other diseases. I've read that too much chicken (or too much high protein period) can give you kidney stones if you aren't getting enough water, but beyond that I don't think there's nearly as significant a danger.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Holm on October 27, 2008, 05:38:38 pm
work out a lot and eat a lot
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Sredni Vashtar on October 27, 2008, 05:40:54 pm
When you're working out make sure and lift as much weight as you can, and do less repetitions.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: goldenratio on October 27, 2008, 05:53:51 pm
210 pounds for 6'6" is like the bordering on slightly overweight. You can check your bmi here: http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

your ideal weight is like, 170-200, and 152 lbs is a "normal" weight, so you don't need to gain THAT MUCH dude, i would say 20-30 lbs is probably good, and it's not too hard to gain 20 lbs of muscle mass.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Doktormartini on October 27, 2008, 08:16:51 pm
what is eating chicken dangerous for heart??
it's not necessarily bad for the heart but you can run into some problems such as:
http://www.ffcr.or.jp/zaidan/FFCRHOME.nsf/7bd44c20b0dc562649256502001b65e9/f1ae5f5f31d8af1649256b030016b669/$FILE/194-5.pdf
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/heterocyclic-amines
Basically just don't eat massive amounts and don't cook them at super high temps.  Chicken is a lot better than some other meats though.
The thing with meat and kidney problems is that meats are high in protein and you don't need super mega amounts of protein and any excess protein you have your body won't use but your kidneys still break them down into individual amino acids so over time your kidneys could get overworked.

Also eat foods like nuts, seeds, olives, avocados...etc because they are really healthy for you and higher in calories.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Calunio on October 27, 2008, 09:41:25 pm
Use steroids.

Well, there's no cheap way to do it. I spent a fortune to gain 16 pounds.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: PTizzle on October 27, 2008, 09:47:24 pm
Just pound the carbs man - eat big meals of pasta etc and hit the weights. As said you'll probably only wanna gain 20-30lbs because you wanna look good rather than overweight.

But yeah do weights while you're eating more, take some weight-gain supplements while you do so if you want (ask other people here about that since I don't really know!). Everyone has pretty much covered it.

Pasta/rice isn't expensive at all and buying quite a bit at once will help your wallet if anything. It's also quick/easy to cook.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Drevean on October 27, 2008, 11:13:15 pm
http://www.gain-weight-muscle-fast.com/weight-gain-programs.html
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: the_nackster on October 27, 2008, 11:26:23 pm
A serious easy way to gain weight is to concentrate on your "sticky carbs" these are breads, pastas, and red meats. Its how actors gain weight for roles.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on October 27, 2008, 11:26:57 pm
Use this workout

http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside.htm

And eat more. Viola.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Avatar on October 28, 2008, 03:18:25 pm
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I'm severely underweight. My goal is to gain 80-100 pounds, and to do so in under 6 months. Not fat though, I want to gain muscle weight. How would I go about doing this
I didn't even bother reading any of the other posts but I will tell you this: You are never going to gain 80-100 pounds of MUSCLE in 6 months.

Ever.

That being said, its just going to be a lot of hard work.  Research exercices and construct a routine that will develop your entire body.  I've never done pyramid sets but my girlfriend is doing them and she says they work quite well.  An important thing is to remember not to work out TOO much.  You get diminishing returns. 

Invest in good protein shake to take once a day.  Keep your meals simple and full of nutrients.  Lots of fish and chicken is good.  Red meat is okay but if you're trying to get lots of protein you probably don't want to eat lots of it.   I tend to stick to the idea of eating lots of carbs for breakfast, a balance of carbs and protein for lunch, and the most protein for dinner, and I always try to have a light protein source before I go to bead(two hours or so before).  DON'T try to cut out fats.  Your body needs them, as long as they are good.  Snack on nuts as they are extremely healthy and a good source of protein. (Not to mention delicious)

And again, remember, you won't gain 100 pounds of muscles in 6 months.  You probably won't even gain 20.  You'll feel results, but massive change doesn't happen over night.  Keep at it and you'll get what you want.

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10 pounds for 6'6" is like the bordering on slightly overweight. You can check your bmi here: http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

your ideal weight is like, 170-200, and 152 lbs is a "normal" weight, so you don't need to gain THAT MUCH dude, i would say 20-30 lbs is probably good, and it's not too hard to gain 20 lbs of muscle mass.
BMI is garbage.
Overweight if he has a lot of fat maybe. I'm 6'1 and 220 pounds.  I'm perhaps "slightly" overweight in that I have around 24% bodyfat.   
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Bizzle on October 29, 2008, 05:17:49 am
Personal experience: Like Avatar said it's going to take some serious time and dedication buddy. Stick to your fish and your birds(chicken and turkey) because they're good sources of protein and are easy on the heart. But really, stick to your fish. Tuna and Salmon have GREAT amounts of protein and carry Omega 3 fatty acids which are really good for your heart.

Also:
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Just pound the carbs man - eat big meals of pasta

Also, for a tip I'd stay away from energy drinks and caffiene as they're only good for short bursts. Like some have mentioned before protein shakes are what you want to aim for.

As for exercise. Running, jogging and swimming are really great because they work almost every muscle of the body. Push-ups and curl-ups are great for the upper body and tend to show improvements fairly quickly. IMPORTANT: Do NOT over-exercise.  Yes you can over do it. About an hour to half-hour 5 days a week of (vigorous)working out is good. Basically don't exercise to the point where you're still in pain 3 days after because that slows the process down because you need more time to freakin recuperate.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Maximo on October 29, 2008, 05:31:35 am
Thanks for all your help guys! Yeah, I knew it was outrageous to have a goal that high, but it's probably a good thing. I'll probably gain hopefully 20-30 pounds if I really work on it though. I think if I stay at 6'6" I'll max my weight at 200 but if I get to 6'8" or 6'9" I'll try to gain more, depending on how I feel at that point.

I'll make sure my diet consists of chicken, turkey, and fish, but most likely fish because chicken and turkey are way more expensive, pasta, breads, salads, fruits, and a daily protein drink. I'll make fruit smoothies with protein powder in them if I can find non-chocolate flavored protein powder. Seriously, it's all disgusting chocolate flavor.

But seriously, everyone, thanks for all your help like a lot!

Is anyone down for before and after pics?
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Bizzle on October 29, 2008, 05:37:37 am
Go for it man. Show us a starting point.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Barack Obama on October 29, 2008, 06:55:08 am
Fruit smoothies with a scoop of whey in them are not gonna do it. Look into a "gainer" shake, which typically have servings of 3-4 scoops. They're typically loaded with complex carbs and protein. You'd get about as much calories as a light meal from just one of those.
And if you don't want to be a fat loser, be sure to hit the gym and lift the heaviest weights your body can take for about 8 to 10 reps and do it 3-4 times for each exercise or until your muscles completely fail.

You could probably gain about 20-30 lbs of muscle over the course of a year or so if you don't puss out.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on October 29, 2008, 01:36:45 pm
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Push-ups and curl-ups are great for the upper body and tend to show improvements fairly quickly. IMPORTANT: Do NOT over-exercise.  Yes you can over do it. About an hour to half-hour 5 days a week of (vigorous)working out is good. Basically don't exercise to the point where you're still in pain 3 days after because that slows the process down because you need more time to freakin recuperate.

NO NO NO DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY HE'S WRONG

But seriously, no offense, but that's just misinformation.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Xeno|Soft on October 29, 2008, 03:33:52 pm
You never told us your body type or eating habits, so I cannot tell what type of person you are.

Are you skinny because you don't eat right or because you're like me and just don't gain weight?

Assuming you are just like me, then you are going to need to take in a lot of calories if you plan on working out..a lot. guys like us can burn 3 times more calories a day compared to other body types. So you add work outs to that..geese you need to increase meals by a lot.

Second, dumping protein in your body in large amounts everyday is a waste. Your body will just dump out what it doesn't need, our body type doesn't like to store. You need to give your body what it needs, excess just...literally gets pooped out. So if your work out doesn't demand it, then don't over do it on the protein.

However; take protein everyday, best time for our body type is after the workout RIGHT AWAY. (for anybody type for that matter)  Why? because like I said before, our body doesn't like to store, so giving the body protein right after a work out when it's making repairs to the muscles ensures a greater percentage of the protein is being used rather than dumped.

Second best times are before you go to sleep, and when you wake up.


The workout itself? Push you're self every work out, your muscles won't grow if you do what you can already do. You need them to understand that you want to do something that you can't already do. That's why people have power days where they go above their normals limits and try higher weights just to  really push their muscles. so don't go easy. And try to go the same days, the body needs consistency.

and also, lol at 20-30 pounds of muscle in a year...good luck getting 15.  Esp if you have a real life to attend to. Only people who really know what their doing and have time to dedicate to workouts can gain 20/25 pounds a year.

However you can get 20 pounds easy in a year, it just won't be pure muscle.






Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Pulits on October 29, 2008, 09:31:10 pm
It's impossible to gain 80-100 pounds of muscle in 6 months. By the best of all conditions you'll get 10-20 pounds of muscle weight, which are fairly good.

Just start to lift weights and go into an hipercaloric diet, start at 3,000 calories and add 100-200calories over time when you stop gaining weight. Eat a plenty amount of proteins, carboydrates and fat. You want good clean proteins (chicken and turkey breast, lean meats (beef, pork etc), milk, eggs, tuna, salmon, etc), complex carbs (integral pasta, wild/integral rice, oats, sweet potatoes), good fats (olive oil, salmon oil, flax oil, avocado, nuts in general) and plenty of fruits and vegetables. Water is essential, have at least 2liters per day.

Eat around 5-6 meals per day, and leave 3 hours between each meal. Time isn't an excuse. NEVER skip breakfast or dinner.

As for supplements, creatine and weight gainers will help you reach your goals. WHEY Protein is mandatory, no matter what. Have it as soon as you finish your workout. You can have homemade weight gainers, too, which tend to be superior to commercial ones.

Your weight lifting routine can vary, depends on your needs, but it usually goes like this: train a muscle and at least give 3 to 5 days of rest to that muscle. So you'll end up training a muscle once or twice per week. Change your routine schedule every 3-4 weeks. Give priority to complex exercises (bench press, squats, deadlifts, military press, barbell curls, rows, etc). And change the weight constantly. Stick to 8-12 reps for 3 or 4 sets, and use a weight that is challenging enough for you.

If you wanna get big, you have to eat big. Good luck bro.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Barack Obama on October 29, 2008, 09:55:23 pm
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and also, lol at 20-30 pounds of muscle in a year...good luck getting 15.  Esp if you have a real life to attend to. Only people who really know what their doing and have time to dedicate to workouts can gain 20/25 pounds a year.
I weighed under 140(I'm not a tall guy) at the beginning of '05 and through eating a lot, supplements, and a disciplined workout routine(going to the gym for about 1-2 hours a night for 5 days a week) I got up to 160 with very little body fat around the beginning of '06.

It's definitely do-able and people starting out weight training generally gain a lot more at a higher rate than people who've been doing it a long time.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Avatar on October 30, 2008, 03:02:23 am
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However; take protein everyday, best time for our body type is after the workout RIGHT AWAY. (for anybody type for that matter)  Why? because like I said before, our body doesn't like to store, so giving the body protein right after a work out when it's making repairs to the muscles ensures a greater percentage of the protein is being used rather than dumped.
Body repairs itself the vast majority when you sleep.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: The Dude on October 30, 2008, 01:35:02 pm
I suggest a healthy diet of pizzapops, WoW, and energy drinks.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: SupremeWarrior on October 30, 2008, 09:58:28 pm
I also wanted to gain weight because I was too skinny. This is what I did: 40 Chin ups, 80 Inclined push ups (When doing these on a stool or chair make sure your toes are tense), 60 sit ups and 60 crunches. Make sure you are doing the exercises properly as well because in this case quality is better than quantity. I always had a nap for an hour and one I woke up I had a good stretch an done my workout which lasted about 45 minutes to 1 hour then I ate something and drank a full glass of milk. I gained a lot of weight and muscle that way, I used to be way too skinny.

Inclined Push ups: I did those the same way except without weights.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on October 30, 2008, 10:19:53 pm
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I also wanted to gain weight because I was too skinny. This is what I did: 40 Chin ups, 80 Inclined push ups (When doing these on a stool or chair make sure your toes are tense), 60 sit ups and 60 crunches. Make sure you are doing the exercises properly as well because in this case quality is better than quantity. I always had a nap for an hour and one I woke up I had a good stretch an doe my workout which lasted about 45 minutes to 1 hour then I ate something and drank a full glass milk. I gained a lot of weight and muscle that way, I used to be way too skinny.

This is a horrible workout.

WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING?!

I'm about to run out right now, but when I get back I'm going to give you some actual advice.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: SupremeWarrior on October 30, 2008, 10:42:42 pm
This is a horrible workout.

WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING?!

I'm about to run out right now, but when I get back I'm going to give you some actual advice.
Well it worked for me. I guess if you wanna pound of slabs of meat you should go gym, I have never been to the gym so I guess you should ask someone who has.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Avatar on October 31, 2008, 01:23:50 am
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This is a horrible workout.
Its actually not too bad.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on October 31, 2008, 02:44:49 am
It's actually pretty bad because it advocates horrible muscle balance to key muscle groups and overexertion.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Bizzle on October 31, 2008, 02:50:55 am
NO NO NO DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY HE'S WRONG

But seriously, no offense, but that's just misinformation.

Hm really? I got this information from a body builder. You wanna explain how it's wrong rather than stating it is??
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on October 31, 2008, 03:02:14 am
Okay that's only fair.

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Push-ups and curl-ups are great for the upper body and tend to show improvements fairly quickly. IMPORTANT: Do NOT over-exercise.  Yes you can over do it. About an hour to half-hour 5 days a week of (vigorous)working out is good. Basically don't exercise to the point where you're still in pain 3 days after because that slows the process down because you need more time to freakin recuperate.

Okay, I'll be fair, push ups are great for the upper body, but by all means that shouldn't be the only chest/core workout you do. Curl ups are only so so and there are so many better ways to build up your abs. Assuming you want to build muscle, the best way to do this is to start lifting weights at a gym. Assuming you're lifting weights, working out five days a week is usually a very bad idea because you're giving your muscles and your central nervous system NO time to rest and recover at all and you'll only fuck yourself over. Mon-Wed-Fri is usually the best way to go.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: GreenstarX on October 31, 2008, 03:41:47 am
whoever mentioned junk food is so so wrong, it just makes you have bad skin & tired all the time. + its a very difficult loop to get out from.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Bizzle on October 31, 2008, 04:04:08 am
Okay that's only fair.

Okay, I'll be fair, push ups are great for the upper body, but by all means that shouldn't be the only chest/core workout you do. Curl ups are only so so and there are so many better ways to build up your abs. Assuming you want to build muscle, the best way to do this is to start lifting weights at a gym. Assuming you're lifting weights, working out five days a week is usually a very bad idea because you're giving your muscles and your central nervous system NO time to rest and recover at all and you'll only fuck yourself over. Mon-Wed-Fri is usually the best way to go.

Okay the only reason I advised push-ups/curl-ups is because they are a good start(I'm assuming he is skin and bones) since you're using your own body weight to work-out rather than starting on lift-weights that can possibly hurt yourself. As for the work-out/recovery time frame I seriously think that depends on the individual. I know people(athletes) that work out 30min to an hour 5 days a week, and they don't show any signs of fatigue other than not getting enough sleep-something that can avoided. Albeit I will agree Mon-Wed-Fri is probably the safest.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: FattyMcBlub on October 31, 2008, 04:41:37 am
Alls I knows is...  you just need to eat more than you burn.  I hated hearing it too cause it sounds so retardedly obvious, but just eat carbs (cause they're cheap) in snack form, save the meats for meals.  I heard that 3 big meals a day is worse than like... 8 small meals a day in terms of gaining weight, but I also heard the opposite.  Having more smaller meals makes more sense to me, but whatever.  Work out, of course, and confuse your muscles so that you don't plateau and you'll be able to do more weight and look better.  When I say confuse your muscles I just mean that one week you do hammer curls, the next week you do full supination curls, and so on and so on.  You'll work out different regions of the same area gradually making you bigger.  If you want to get big fast use that workout routine that Feld was talkin about cause it has options for different workouts and has a schedule that's short and makes sense for giving your body time to rest.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Pulits on October 31, 2008, 07:50:25 am
Body weight exercises offer little resistance. Eventually you'll need to add more weight (resistance) so consider joining a gym.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Avatar on October 31, 2008, 01:27:57 pm
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It's actually pretty bad because it advocates horrible muscle balance to key muscle groups and overexertion.
Overexertion = lolno.
Muscle balance not excessively so.  It works most of the key muscle groups except legs which if you're doing ane xercise routine like that would probably be developed through cardio.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on October 31, 2008, 04:23:08 pm
You're wrong, dude. Like, you're wrong. I don't mean to sound like an ass, but you're pretty fucking wrong!
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Avatar on November 01, 2008, 01:50:12 am
You're wrong, dude. Like, you're wrong. I don't mean to sound like an ass, but you're pretty fucking wrong!
Thanks for that champ.

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Body weight exercises offer little resistance. Eventually you'll need to add more weight (resistance) so consider joining a gym.
Adding weighted vests/etc to the equation add fairly good results.  This being said its not the best exercise you can do obviously.
Title: Help me get fat!
Post by: Pulits on November 01, 2008, 09:38:48 am
Adding weighted vests/etc to the equation add fairly good results.  This being said its not the best exercise you can do obviously.

Of course. That's what I said, eventually you'll need to add up some weight to continue making these exercises effective. Dip belts are super effective for every kind of pull-ups/chin ups whatever and of course dips. As for push-ups you may use loaded bags or whatever. You just need to get creative. ;)

And as it was stated before, they're a good start. But that's about it, they should be mixed along with some other exercises (weights) in order to see even more results. For example, one could have a chest routine that consist of bench press, incline press, dips and pushups and that could be fairly good. My point is, they're a good exercise, but they're aren't one of the best exercises out there.

And certain muscles only show up when they're used in a routine that consist of m any muscle groups. For example, I could never see my abs until I started workin my back and legs more (squats, rows). Using more muslces burns even more calories.