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Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2008, 11:43:06 pm
Quote from: From Invisible-movement.net
hyakprods, an Invisible Movement reader, spoke to John at the Hullabaloo and asked him about the new album. John’s response was that the release date for the album is 20th January 2009 and that its title is The Empyrean. Assuming that, with such a scenario it is no longer a secret, here you have it. And now we all have something beautiful to look forward to.

John also said that he is not likely to do any performance-type shows anytime soon, as he is focusing on being creative rather than presenting music to audiences right now.


* John Frusciante – vocals, acoustic and electric guitar.
* Josh Klinghoffer – Drums
* Flea - Bass
* Vanessa Freebairn-Smith - Cello

Sucks that he won't be touring after the album! As a huge fanboy I'd pretty much travel anywhere to see him. :(
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: jamie on November 06, 2008, 12:10:46 am
thanks, ryan. i've got high hopes for this one, and that's a cool title he's picked. i remember a long while ago john said something about this one being influence by classical music and that title and the celloist tells me maybe it actually is (i didn't really believe it cos john has a way of talking crap a lot of the time). i'm pretty excited! it'll be released on the day obama is sworn in huh...gonna watch obama ascend to the empyrean...

every time i hear bits of news like this i get all fuck! i gotta get making more music! i really do like that title. the empyrean.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: headphonics on November 06, 2008, 12:22:20 am
fucking awesome
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Barack Obama on November 06, 2008, 12:32:20 am
He'll never be able to top Niandra LaDes and Usually Just a T-Shirt
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Post by: headphonics on November 06, 2008, 12:33:24 am
yea probably not
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Barack Obama on November 06, 2008, 12:44:09 am
I used to really really like his early solo stuff but I'm not feelin' anything he's done since shadows collide with people

Maybe it's just because he just kinda banged out the 6 after that in 6 months, but almost all of his solo stuff has been boring as fuck
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: jamie on November 06, 2008, 12:49:54 am
it probably has been pretty boring yeah. i like certain songs a lot here and there but probably you add up those 6 albums you get about 10 really cool tracks. i like the album the will to death quite a lot, but it could have been better. i don't really care though, you know? i mean i don't actually listen to john that much these days aside from little spurts where i kind of rediscover him and get that story of him as the pariah junkie writing on the walls going through my head again. when it comes to john i just take in any of his output as cool, this is what he's doing now. i get why steel laughs at john frusciante but i don't mind i just like the guy and i know his music so well, plus every so often he does something really cool.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: headphonics on November 06, 2008, 12:54:29 am
Quote from: DietCoke on November 06, 2008, 12:44:09 am
I used to really really like his early solo stuff but I'm not feelin' anything he's done since shadows collide with people

Maybe it's just because he just kinda banged out the 6 after that in 6 months, but almost all of his solo stuff has been boring as fuck
yeah, i don't know.  his early stuff, i agree basically niandra lades/smile from the streets you hold/to record water i thought were all pretty solid.  now he is kinda hit or miss but on any given more recent album (curtains, shadows collide, the will to death, mostly), i can find about five songs i like and the rest are throwaway.
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Post by: Beasley on November 06, 2008, 01:01:29 am
so according to this topic niandra lades is apparently good/one of his best?? so im going to go get that

i dont know john very well at all so im p. excited.
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Post by: headphonics on November 06, 2008, 01:23:51 am
well uh.  it is but it is also VERY WEIRD//EXPERIMENTALIST.  If you want something more accessible get like Curtains or To Record Only Water For Ten Days or Shadows Collide With People.  But I'd suggest Niandra Lades if you can get into it.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 06, 2008, 01:24:26 am
Quote from: Beasley on November 06, 2008, 01:01:29 am
so according to this topic niandra lades is apparently good/one of his best?? so im going to go get that

i dont know john very well at all so im p. excited.

if you like this song you'll like the album
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Shepperd on November 06, 2008, 01:32:31 am
strange, I read a while ago that it was called The Imperium

well i guess they cant spell


Curtains and SPhere are his only weak albums. Very weak.

And you guys, don't skip From The Sounds Inside, it is an amazing record.
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Post by: Puppet Master on November 06, 2008, 01:42:36 am
Sweet, I might have to check this out. I really liked Niandra LaDes, but I haven't really been able to get into his other stuff.
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Post by: jamie on November 06, 2008, 02:34:09 am
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Curtains and SPhere are his only weak albums. Very weak.

for anyone who maybe hasn't heard these, i disagree with this. curtains is half boring as hell half really nice songs. like time tonight, the past recedes, anne, ascension. and sphere in the heart of silence is good music, too. it's got communique and at your enemies and one or two other good ones. you have to be in the mood for it though.
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Post by: the bloddy ghost on November 06, 2008, 02:51:16 am
everybody has different tastes when it comes to his music I guess. i really like curtains but one or two songs were kind of boring.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Ryan on November 06, 2008, 02:57:24 am
Quote from: real_jamicus on November 06, 2008, 02:34:09 am
for anyone who maybe hasn't heard these, i disagree with this. curtains is half boring as hell half really nice songs. like time tonight, the past recedes, anne, ascension. and sphere in the heart of silence is good music, too. it's got communique and at your enemies and one or two other good ones. you have to be in the mood for it though.

Anne is one of his best songs imo.

Niandra/Smile are my two favorite, but yeah To Record Only Water and Shadows are both really good too. I like the brown bunny OST, from the sounds inside, and the will to death a whole lot too.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Beasley on November 06, 2008, 04:31:26 am
Quote from: DietCoke on November 06, 2008, 01:24:26 am
if you like this song you'll like the album

i really really like the guitar in this song. not so sure about the vocals but it's just one listen and i get the whole experimental thing so i'm going to check this out, thanks
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Post by: DS on November 06, 2008, 02:09:17 pm
this is neat thanks for the info dude. 2009 is looking friggin sw**t.
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Post by: Shepperd on November 06, 2008, 03:28:51 pm
Beasley, note Frusciante has 2 voices. That's pre-99 voice, post-99 is a more mature voice
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Post by: Beasley on November 07, 2008, 12:33:51 am
i like this a lot but man what a voice! one of the weirdest i have ever heard i think
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Post by: GaZZwa on November 13, 2008, 10:57:26 pm
Johnny Marr is on it apparently.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on November 13, 2008, 10:59:32 pm
haha, word?

man I never got how you guys like Frusciante's solo work and RHCP's body of work. they seem so different in every way; RHCP oozes jamband and Frusciante is all full of DESPAIR or LIEF or whatever emotion shep's got an identity in.
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Post by: Shepperd on November 13, 2008, 11:14:39 pm
haha, not lief at all. lief was a way of thinking life as ridiculous, absurd and exciting.

and, hello broad music tastes!
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on November 13, 2008, 11:18:14 pm
well i meant the same level of passion, people seem to group frusciante and rhcp together. and its not like comparing Tupac to Elliott Smith, so it's just weird since they're in a relatively similar genre and GW likes both but I've always found RHCP intolerable.
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Post by: jamie on November 13, 2008, 11:34:13 pm
i mean steel i'd agree about later rhcp records, that is, if i didn't already know the guys so well by the time stadium arcadium and the other shit they've done in the past 5 or 6 years came out. cos i listen to it sometimes, when i forget what it sounds like, and stadium arcadium especially i really can't listen to apart from a couple of tracks. i think at the beginning, they were a band of fairly unintelligent young men who just had a big old hard on for life and that was, and still is, attractive to me. cos they fucked up a lot, too, and it kept their GIVE IT AWAY nonsense meaningful, cos i knew they were a bunch of drug addicts barely keeping a handle on their shit. the fact they were never that smart doesn't really matter to me.

the past couple records have been a lot less interesting though. they are just elder statesmen of pop music playing their same old game now, and who cares about that. john hasn't been doing that though, he's fairly consistently been trying new things and while i do not like his recent records as much as i like niandra and smiles i can at least respect he isn't just pumping out bullshit, the fact he's pumping out anything at all while he's a part of probably the most famous band in the world (or was a couple of years ago at least) tells me he's in this for more than the game that anthony is in it for, for example.

so maybe i used to lump john and the rhcp (and probably the mars volta too) all together, i don't really anymore. i still love blood sex sugar magic, there's just sometimes about that time in music that i really like - it's the same feelings i get when i listen to kurt cobain, although not as much cos i was never as into nirvana. californication is okay, by the way is probably better but has a lot of songs i hate and SA is 50% unbearable and the others varying. i dunno i mean it seems like you've really got something against them and i dunno what it is? rhcp are maybe nothing that special but i can't accept UTTER SHIT cos while they may be now they've certainly done things and have always been at least fairly unique. i mean i can't think of another band who sound like them - i can think of imitators, i can think of influences - but they sound like their own even if they have been festering in their own body fluids for a decade now

i mean you can't say elliott smith is amazing and then turn around and say john frusciante is a worthless dick, cos they have done in their solo music pretty much the same things. elliott was more of a simple honest guy though while john was a nutter who didn't make sense but it was the same idea of OH GOD MY LIFE sad sacks with them and i don't mean to insult either cos i love them both equally.


WOW. i dunno why i just wrote this.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Ryan on November 13, 2008, 11:34:24 pm
idk I for one like RHCP mainly for Frusciantes work within it. also i don't know why you use JAM BAND as an insult. maybe it's because I play guitar but I find a lot of jamming to be really cool and interesting to listen to!
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Post by: Beasley on November 14, 2008, 02:54:50 am
ehhhhhhh i like rhcp but that's all im sayin about that!


and what's lief (seriously what is lief)
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Post by: ase on November 14, 2008, 03:22:44 am
i have been in love with when shadows collide ever since i first listened to it a couple months ago, and I've been putting off getting Niandra. gotta do that soon
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Post by: headphonics on November 14, 2008, 03:35:53 am
Quote from: GaZZwa on November 13, 2008, 10:57:26 pm
Johnny Marr is on it apparently.
jesus fucking christ
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Post by: Ryan on November 14, 2008, 03:58:30 am
Quote from: headphonics on November 14, 2008, 03:35:53 am
jesus fucking christ

i've always thought the smiths were kind of gay but why is this such a bad thing?
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: headphonics on November 14, 2008, 04:16:51 am
oh nah you misinterpreted.  the smiths rule but if they are kinda gay that is 100% morrissey's fault because he is very gay.  but no i love johnny marr he's like one of my fav guitarists.  i am PUMPED because seriously this is probably my two fav guitarists or whatever working together.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Ryan on November 14, 2008, 04:18:25 am
oh! yeah i've never really liked the smiths (this is 100% because of morrissey, however. he's really annoying imo)
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Post by: Shepperd on November 14, 2008, 02:09:37 pm
Quote from: Beasley on November 14, 2008, 02:54:50 am
and what's lief (seriously what is lief)
a word I came up with during my targ years which I wrote an essay about and never published it..
it is known because it used to be my siggy.


also been told Flea is finally learning musical theory at some university? hah
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Post by: big ass skelly on November 14, 2008, 03:25:53 pm
"If Morrissey told me not to eat meat, then I would eat meat, because I hate Morrissey" ~Robert Smith (vegetarian)

My friend has a photo of him with johnny marr and if I remember rightly they have a really similar expression on their faces. I think it's one of his most prized possessions
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on November 14, 2008, 04:59:07 pm
johnny marr had that one awful album though. I think the modest mouse one kind of sucked but that's more for isaac brock trying too hard. so we'll see how this turns out.
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Post by: headphonics on November 14, 2008, 06:52:46 pm
i don't think we were dead sucked; imo it wasnt as good as modest mouse's earlier stuff but it was a good POP ROCK or w/e album.  like i thought it was good for what it was.  marr's guitar was basically the best part, though.  his solo stuff is so.... MEDIOCRE but deep down i know he can still do shit like he did on their self-titled album/the queen is dead.  like the riffs to dashboard and we've got everything make me think he is kind of returning to form.
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Post by: Shepperd on November 14, 2008, 08:36:16 pm
Quote from: Mark on November 14, 2008, 03:25:53 pm
"If Morrissey told me not to eat meat, then I would eat meat, because I hate Morrissey" ~Robert Smith (vegetarian)
Robert Smith should shut the fuck up because I hate him.
Not defending Morrissey though
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Post by: GaZZwa on November 14, 2008, 09:08:26 pm
Johnny Marr made The Smiths. Of course, Morrissey's words were always brilliant and funny and heartbreaking and literate and all of those things, but without Marr's music behind them, they would have been relegated to schoolboy poetry grade (see also: Morrissey's solo work). Marr somehow yinged Morrisey's yang.

On the subject of that other band; the Chili Peppers were (along with Nirvana) the first band that made me sit up and pay attention to pop or rock music. They'll always have that. And yes, they've released a lot of really awful music (see: some of their 80s output, the whole of One Hot Minute, the whole of Stadium Arcadium), there was something about their sound that grabbed me. I blew the dust off By the Way a few weeks ago and it really is a masterful pop album, so reminiscent of some lost great early 70s californian album. Even now, I'm still a sucker for Frusciante's signature guitar tone (that one that sounds like sun kissed palm trees in the Hollywood hills) and his harmonies on By the Way are superb. Going back some, Californication is a real hit-and-miss record, but has some inspired moments. Though I haven't listened to it in a couple of years, I maintain that BloodSugarSexMagik is brilliant. So yeah, Anthony Kiedis goofing around and getting a boner isn't too inspiring. But sometimes they overcame that enough to be quite awesome. Sometimes.

As for John's solo work, when I was 15 or 16, it was like having my very own Brian or Dennis Wilson. Super-obscure (despite being in what at the time were one of the biggest bands around) his (then) 3 solo records weren't really recognised by anyone, largely because 2 of them were out of print and supremely rare. Niandra and Smiles were attractive because they came from a place of darkness (even though like, every rockstar ever has done heroin, these somehow at the time seemed to rise above any kind of rock lore bullshit and appeared to glisten with artistic integrity and "authenticity"), were super lo-fi and mysterious, lending themselves to extreme scrutiny by a teenage fanboy. Of course, they had some real good songs on there too. So there it is.

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Post by: Shepperd on November 14, 2008, 10:55:29 pm
I agree One hot Minute and SA blows, but what 80s songs are you thinking of? I can't think other than what, thirty dirty birds and lovin and touchin


man I love those old songs
specially the ones nobody talks about like:
* Mommy where's daddy
* Walking on down the road
* Organic Anti-Beat box Band
* The Brothers Cup
* American Ghost Dance
* Buckle Down
* What it is
* Johnny Kick a hole in the sky
and of course
* Grand Pappy du plenty

and I may be odd here
but I think THE song that sums up RHCP, and specially the spirit of BSSM is the verse of Mellowship Slinky

yes, RHCP is in a special place in my heart. And so is John.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 15, 2008, 03:18:40 am
Niandra LaDes appeals to me because of his flippant disregard for making music that most people would want to hear. It was like he was too fucked up to even care, and I don't hear the "oh my life is so hard and bad" sad-sack shit in there, just a tragic mess of a dude layering some pretty interesting melodies while squawking some perverted shit into a mic.

Smile From the Streets You Hold is also great because the whole purpose of its creation was to get money for more heroin and he was on the verge of schizophrenia thinking he was being visited by spirits, and you can hear that through the whole thing.
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Post by: headphonics on November 15, 2008, 03:25:00 am
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thinking he was being visited by spirits
he still thinks this.  if anything he is MORE spiritual/superstitious now; it's ridiculous.  ordinarily i would just call him dumb but with frusciante i kind of like it.  it is endearing or something.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 15, 2008, 03:29:05 am
Quote from: headphonics on November 15, 2008, 03:25:00 am
he still thinks this.  if anything he is MORE spiritual/superstitious now; it's ridiculous.  ordinarily i would just call him dumb but with frusciante i kind of like it.  it is endearing or something.

well now there's just no excuse for it and is kinda corny... which explains this bullshit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwwD2AgSFa4

sounds like some fuckin christian rock right there
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Post by: headphonics on November 15, 2008, 03:39:38 am
ahaha i dunno man.  it's definitely corny but i think after being addicted to heroin for like eight years you probably can't help but become kind of a weird person.  he is so sincere about it that it comes off more idk, AFFABLE.  like when i meet people like this in life i am usually like LOL WHAT AN IDIOT but for some reason with him i just like him more every time he mentions THE SPIRITS.............

theres a vid on youtube somewhere with him talking about how maybe keidis named the album stadium arcadium because the spirits sent him the word "arcanum" and he got mixed up
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Post by: Farren on November 15, 2008, 04:37:49 am
I don't listen to his stuff enough to really be able to interpret it but I kind of take his music as really lighthearted and free spirited, thats why it really appeals to me. Its really happy and fun sounding (Shadows collide with people only, I haven't really gotten into his other stuff yet).

And thats nothing like christian rock, christian rock is sickening and deluded, I don't see frusciante's stuff as concentrating on god or any sort of religion more so than just spirituality. which is pretty cool.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 15, 2008, 08:36:12 am
Quote from: Coxswain on November 15, 2008, 04:37:49 am

And thats nothing like christian rock, christian rock is sickening and deluded, I don't see frusciante's stuff as concentrating on god or any sort of religion more so than just spirituality. which is pretty cool.
Man, you throw some "jesus" "lord" or "savior" in that song and it sounds just like those christian rock bands you see playing concerts on christian tv at like 3am
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Post by: bonzi_buddy on November 15, 2008, 04:56:52 pm
Every time somebody starts to discuss about RHCP or Fruscinate i get incredibly embarrased because i have so much mixed feelings of the band. There are a lot of people who vow to them and say that Fruscinante is incredible/has so much emotion/spritual thing in his playing. On the other hand, i hear songs like Under the Bridge/Californication/Tell me Baby/By the Way in the radio and i find them plain & pop and rambling. I don't feel or find anything new from their songs.

I keep telling myself that "it's just their most popular songs, i'm sure there are some good stuff there... " but then i listen to Fruscinante's work Ryan linked in the guitar topic (it's... so emotional...) and i look blank at the screen and desperately try to figure out what is so emotional or amazing in his solos!
The impression gets even more contradictory as i listen to Fruscinante's songs from his solo-albums and it sounds like something recorded in a basement on a hill (eehehhehe...i hope this reference worked...) with a 4-track recorder. It sounds incredibly experimental (no problem with this) but... again i am looking for hints and signs of brilliance.
I understood that RHCP/Fruscinante is a pretty big influence of Guana's so... i don't know what to think.

I'm gonna end this post in a gay, rambling way and say that THERE HAS TO BE GOOD STUFF THERE so i'll just keep being contraditory until i listen to their/Fruscinante's stuff.
Of course you guys could make this work easier and link some good songs from the guys......................heh...

also sorry for horrible, horrible english
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Post by: GaZZwa on November 15, 2008, 05:59:52 pm
this is the cover

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/images.musictoday.com/stores/images/rhcp_FC/jf_cover_2008.jpeg)

what the shit

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Friends and Fans,

The Empyrean is my new record and will be released worldwide via Record Collection on January 20th 2009. It was recorded on and off between December 2006 and March 2008. It is a concept record that tells a single story both musically and lyrically. The story takes place within one person, and there are two characters. It contains a version of Tim Buckley's, 'Song To The Siren' and the rest of the songs are written by me. My friend Josh plays on it, as does Flea. It also features Sonus Quartet, Johnny Marr and The New Dimension Singers. I'm really happy with it and I've listened to it a lot for the psychedelic experience it provides. It should be played as loud as possible and it is suited to dark living rooms late at night.
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Post by: Shepperd on November 15, 2008, 08:26:58 pm
also, guys, John said that he doesn't believe in Jesus, dunno if he is into some religion, from what I read, I don't think he's into any.
He just believes in spirits, more like invisible forces that guides people around, which I get and I can even imagine myself in his position. I don't think he is stupid, Iand I can relate it with my very spiritual mother (she doesnt believe in a religion, just in superior forces).
I find the whole concept very cool, and I dig
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 16, 2008, 12:16:18 am
Quote from: DJ Soup on November 15, 2008, 08:26:58 pm
also, guys, John said that he doesn't believe in Jesus, dunno if he is into some religion, from what I read, I don't think he's into any.
He just believes in spirits, more like invisible forces that guides people around, which I get and I can even imagine myself in his position. I don't think he is stupid, Iand I can relate it with my very spiritual mother (she doesnt believe in a religion, just in superior forces).
I find the whole concept very cool, and I dig
I'm not saying he sounds like a christian, just that his boring upbeat acoustic crap sounds like every other self-empowering boring christian inspirational rock song
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Post by: Puppet Master on November 16, 2008, 07:21:43 am
I'm looking forward to the Tim Buckley cover. I usually don't like covers of my favorite artists, but when another one of my favorite artists covers them it's exciting.
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Post by: Shepperd on November 16, 2008, 07:24:57 am
John is pretty awesome at doing covers
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Post by: GaZZwa on November 16, 2008, 05:39:32 pm
His website, www.johnfrusciante.com , which had been down for a long while, is now some sort of blog.
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Post by: Shepperd on November 16, 2008, 07:21:37 pm
Man a blog is soooo much better than that old stupid site.

Hope he feels like updating it periodically, because John is not quite a consistent kind of guy I think.
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Post by: blood hell on November 16, 2008, 08:30:19 pm
I love john frusicante and everything he has ever done. i serioualy havent gone a day in the past two years where i didnt hear a john song or play one on my guitar.
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Post by: Herr Artischocke on November 16, 2008, 11:40:49 pm
That album cover is cool as hell. Can't wait for the new CD! Been waiting for John to finally spring back with something.
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Post by: Ryan on November 17, 2008, 01:24:42 pm
http://johnfrusciante.com/?p=16

oh cool he has like a guitar exercise on there!
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Post by: headphonics on November 17, 2008, 10:03:17 pm
yeah it was such a LONG post.  i thought it was pretty cool!  i hope he makes more idk it is weird to read BLOCKS AND BLOCKS OF TEXT by him.
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Post by: Shepperd on November 17, 2008, 10:59:28 pm
it is a good thing he sounds smart when he writes, so you fools can shut the fuck up.
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Post by: headphonics on November 18, 2008, 01:25:29 am
rave who the hell are you even talking to
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Post by: Farren on November 18, 2008, 03:51:22 am
He gets jumpe when hke sees john and frusciante on the post
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Post by: Farren on November 18, 2008, 03:52:06 am
cAPITALIZE HIS NAME GODdAmnIT
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on November 18, 2008, 04:07:32 am
also how is that smart sounding, it's just theory followed by some kind of rambling about numbers in relation to music. it's not stupid by any means but this isn't greil marcus mumbling about lipstick traces and the heritage of blues, it's just a blog post.
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Post by: jamie on November 21, 2008, 01:38:56 pm
this whole thing feels like a led zeppelin album. that is not a good thing.


 i am still looking forward to it.
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Post by: Shepperd on November 26, 2008, 07:54:31 pm
new song out at mys`pace
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Post by: jamie on November 27, 2008, 02:06:25 am
yeah this song is kind of what i had been coming to expect from this. that's not to say it's the same old stuff, but the cover and the song titles and all that. i'm looking forward to hearing the whole thing.
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Post by: bonzi_buddy on November 27, 2008, 08:16:47 am
Quote from: real_jamicus on November 27, 2008, 02:06:25 am
yeah this song is kind of what i had been coming to expect from this. that's not to say it's the same old stuff, but the cover and the song titles and all that. i'm looking forward to hearing the whole thing.
ohhh that's what you meant by the led zeppelin thing. yeah, the covers and names are kind of EPIC of sort but i don't care if the music rules!
though i must admit the concept of empyrean goes WELL BEYOUND what led zeppelin ever did haha

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The Empyrean is a story that has no action in the physical world. It all takes place in one persons mind throughout his life. The only other character is someone who does not live in the physical world but is inside it, in the sense that he exists in peoples minds. The mind is the only place that anything can be truly said to exist. The outside world is only known to us as it appears within us by the testament of our senses.  The imagination is the most real world that we know because we each know it first hand. Seeing our ideas take form is like being able to see the sun come into being. We have no equivelent to the purity of that in our account of the outside world. The outer world appears to each of us as one thing and it is always also a multitude of others. Inside to outside and outside to inside are neverending. Trying and giving up are a form of breathing.

 - John

Tags: The Empyrean, The Outside World, The Physical World
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: jamie on November 27, 2008, 01:07:50 pm
i think i've decided i really love the last minute or so of this song. a lot. apart from that it's nice but didn't blow my mind. the "heeeey shoot me!! shoot me! shoot me..." part is pretty good yes, but the chord progressions of the first half of the song are the same he's been using for about a decade. and that's fine, i don't really mind cos he is trying new things in every other area but basically i could see the next chord coming the first time i listen to it.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: big ass skelly on November 30, 2008, 10:33:23 pm
I've never listened to John Frusciante but I really like unreachable on his myspace. I'm gonna get his olders tuff
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Ryan on December 01, 2008, 01:23:25 pm
i figured out most of unreachable last night when i was at my grandmas house (minus the solo)

im pretty sure he plays it with his guitar in Eb

these are all barre chords btw.

i couldn't be bothered to write down all the lyrics and match the chords up with them, so it's not 100% correct, but these are the right chords so. i also tabbed the chords out and used the chord names as if the guitar was still in standard tuning to make it easier. but it should be tuned to Eb so technically it would be in Ab major

Code:[Select]
guitar tuned to Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb
key A

C: x3555x
D: x5777x
Em: x7998x
G: x5543x
A: x7765x

C D
Are we
G D Em
Down for the...
G D Em
We don't know...
G D Em
When the...
C D A
You do lose...

G D Em
And I am...
G D Em
What do...
G D Em
We don't...
C D A
We're picking...
Hey

Em G Em G Em G Em G

Em G D A
One time...
Em G D A
I don't...
Em G D A
Uniformed,...
Em G D A
Uniformed...


Em G
Reach into...
D A
Travel great...
Em G
The world...
D A
Turn around...
Em G
I've run out again...
D A
We to disappear
D A
You know...

C Em D Em
Hey...
C G D Em C A
Hey...
C G D Em C A
Ah...



Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: blood hell on December 01, 2008, 03:13:36 pm
Ive never known john to change his guitars tuning for songs. I'm sure he just played it in Ab in standard tuning. Honestly there isn;t a whole lot of guitar strumming going on anyway

edit: also the chords you used imply G, not A....
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Ryan on December 01, 2008, 03:23:45 pm
yeah you're right. i don't know why i said A :(

also yeah john typically doesn't play in other tunings than E but i've heard him talk about it in interviews (hendrix tuned to Eb quite a bit) and a few of his jams and things i've heard him play on youtube have been in Eb. it's easier to play in Eb imo anyway but he probably does play it in E.

Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: jamie on January 14, 2009, 08:48:31 pm
this leaked my good friends
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: headphonics on January 14, 2009, 09:03:25 pm
oh cool.  thanks!
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: DS on January 14, 2009, 09:44:36 pm
yeah its on what.cd this is sweet
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Ryan on January 14, 2009, 11:02:20 pm
awesome! gettin this now.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: blood hell on January 14, 2009, 11:56:43 pm
fuck yall im buying this in person
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: headphonics on January 15, 2009, 12:03:33 am
gotta show my support to the record companies heh
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Barack Obama on January 15, 2009, 12:15:13 am
i just can't wait to give my money to the cashier
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: headphonics on January 15, 2009, 01:16:49 am
i'm halfway through and it's pretty forgettable.  the only tracks that would even be worth listening to a second time are unreachable and the first track imo.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 15, 2009, 02:02:44 am
one more of me sounds just like he's being all IM GEORGE BUSH IM THE PRESIDENT and adopting a fake elitist voice. this album's kinda garbage. panda says its a concept so maybe that's why he did this track.

ahahah midway through springsteen meets aerosmith.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: blood hell on January 15, 2009, 02:24:10 am
Quote from: headphonics on January 15, 2009, 12:03:33 am
gotta show my support to the record companies heh

hes on a indie label and its more just wanting to wait and buy a physical copy
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Ryan on January 15, 2009, 03:19:02 am
the only song i don't like is One MOre of Me. so far i really like before the beginning, unreachable, enough of me, and central
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Shepperd on January 15, 2009, 03:48:18 am
first song is like Maggot Brain from a alternate universe
I'm just 4 minutes in
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Post by: headphonics on January 15, 2009, 04:04:25 am
Quote from: Ryan on January 15, 2009, 03:19:02 am
the only song i don't like is One MOre of Me. so far i really like before the beginning, unreachable, enough of me, and central
sigh,...just when ya think ya know someone


imo this would be one of frusciante's worst.  except for a couple of songs, i don't think anything about it is very interesting and it sounds kind of like other bland post-millennium frusciante stuff.  i'm disappointed, i was hoping for another shadows.
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Post by: Shepperd on January 15, 2009, 04:05:51 am
the problem here is that John has gone prog
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Post by: Ryan on January 15, 2009, 04:34:21 am
Quote from: headphonics on January 15, 2009, 04:04:25 am
sigh,...just when ya think ya know someone


imo this would be one of frusciante's worst.  except for a couple of songs, i don't think anything about it is very interesting and it sounds kind of like other bland post-millennium frusciante stuff.  i'm disappointed, i was hoping for another shadows.

i don't think it's his worst. it's about on par with curtains i'd say. after listening to it a bit more i still like it (might be the fanboy in me..), but none of the tracks really STAND OUT though like a few from curtains and the will to death did. idk it's obvious he's trying to do something new (lots of choirs and classical influences), but it's def no shadows or to record only water or niandra..
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Post by: Shepperd on January 15, 2009, 04:39:45 am
Quote from: DJ Soup on January 15, 2009, 04:05:51 am
the problem here is that John has gone prog
and y'know, prog is not good.
rarely is
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: blood hell on January 15, 2009, 04:46:27 am
are you guys listening to it right??? in a dark room at night
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Post by: headphonics on January 15, 2009, 05:01:55 am
hahaha thats a good post.


also yeah ryan it's like that.  it's like if the will to death or curtains didnt have any stand out songs, only they did, so the albums as a whole i think are much better (i.e. worth listening to).  the strongest song on here is unreachable and that is just OKAY.  if the whole album was as good as this i would think it was a lot better but eh, i'm unimpressed!  i agree, def no shadows/to record only water/niandra (or even smile).
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Barack Obama on January 15, 2009, 05:11:30 am
Quote from: Magical Negro on January 15, 2009, 02:02:44 am
this album's kinda garbage.

word
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Post by: Shepperd on January 15, 2009, 05:46:26 am
unreachable is one of the worst tracks. There are way better tracks there, but still, this record is not John to me. This is Omar Rodriguez Lopez fault, I'm telling you guys.
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Post by: headphonics on January 15, 2009, 05:54:45 am
nah man i feel unreachable, especially the second half, is one of the better parts of the album.  it's all pretty unexceptional, though.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Barack Obama on January 15, 2009, 08:26:58 am
Quote from: DJ Soup on January 15, 2009, 05:46:26 am
This is Omar Rodriguez Lopez fault, I'm telling you guys.
That little waif has been a bad influence on everyone
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: jamie on January 15, 2009, 02:28:41 pm
i've listened to it a few times now. i don't know what i think of it yet, but i don't hate it.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: Shepperd on January 15, 2009, 02:45:39 pm
I dont hate it either, it is just not the John I know. Not the one whose music is magical to me.
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Post by: jamie on January 16, 2009, 05:59:19 pm
i'm pretty sure i like it.
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: blood hell on January 16, 2009, 09:35:57 pm
us release got pushed to jan 27  :cry:
Title: New John Frusciante album info!
Post by: jamie on January 16, 2009, 09:48:09 pm
listening to music before it's release date is like having sex before you get married...wait until that knot is tied, it'll make it the postponed release that much sweeter
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Post by: Ryan on January 17, 2009, 04:01:13 am
my fav review:

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Given the wildly uneven quality of Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante’s avant-garde solo work over the years, and the fact that this, his most recent release, is a concept record that also includes a cover of Tim Buckley’s epic noodling headscratcher, “Song to the Siren,” you’d be forgiven for approaching this disc with a healthy degree of trepidation.  Try and remember, though, that the last great Chili Peppers record (By the Way) was a winner engineered almost entirely by Frusciante, and that The Empyrean includes guest spots by fellow Pepper Flea as well as Johnny Marr -- so it’s at least gotta be better than his "Your Pussy's Glued to a Building on Fire," right?

http://www.prefixmag.com/reviews/john-frusciante/the-empyrean/24177/
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Post by: Shepperd on January 17, 2009, 04:38:15 am
your fav review? Is it sarcasm? I hate it. I want to punch that asshole.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 17, 2009, 04:45:05 am
ryan likes that song im sure so yeah sarcasm although the parts about WILDLY INCONSISTENT is on the mark.
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Post by: Ryan on January 17, 2009, 04:52:11 am
yeah it was sarcasm. by wildly inconsistent i'm 100% sure he's referring to Smiles and Niandra, two of his best albums imo.

also his work has been pretty consistent man, other than this album they've all been pretty good imo! they're not all STELLAR or whatever, but wildly inconsistent makes me think like ROLLING STONES or something