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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Rage on November 10, 2008, 03:56:14 am
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I haven't seen a thread on it here, but I saw another person talk about it; As Starcraft isn't as popular in the states as much, I am positive that it will be when its released.
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StarCraft II continues the epic saga of the Protoss, Terran, and Zerg. These three distinct and powerful races will clash once again in the fast-paced real-time strategy sequel to the legendary original, StarCraft. Legions of veteran, upgraded, and brand-new unit types will do battle across the galaxy, as each faction struggles for survival.
Featuring a unique single-player campaign that picks up where StarCraft: Brood War left off, StarCraft II will present a cast of new heroes and familiar faces in an edgy sci-fi story filled with adventure and intrigue. In addition, Blizzard will again offer unparalleled online play through Battle.net, the company's world-renowned gaming service, with several enhancements and new features to make StarCraft II the ultimate competitive real-time strategy game.
But of course, blizzard is not as good as other gaming companies when it comes to giving an ETA on their products. Rest assured, that when they do release, they make up for it; World of Wacraft being one of their most profitable games, it was done right the first time.
What about battle.net? Is it going to be the same? Blizzard sheds light, that we will like what they deliver.
Will Battle.net be overhauled? Will there be new features?
There will be some exciting new changes and features to Battle.net that will help us ensure that StarCraft II will be the ultimate competitive online real-time strategy game. Some of the areas we’re looking into include features that support online tournaments, eSports, and enhanced communication between players. We’re not quite ready to go into further detail about Battle.net at this time, but we look forward to doing so in the future.
I have always been a big fan of blizzard games, and I await SC2s' release. For more information, click here (http://starcraft2.com/).
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I love StarCraft, and I can't wait for this and Diablo 3 :(
Think it'd be cool if you could add some more info/screens directly to the OP though!
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Is there a Diablo 3 thread? I'm up to date on almost everything that's been released about it and wouldn't mind throwing one together if people would like. I'll make it good!
I'm really pumped to get my hands on the SC2 Editor. I was big into WC3 map making.
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this was announced like awhile back now but yeah it looks alright
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I watched the presentation movie some time ago. It looked OKAY back then but I wasn't that impressed.
If they want my Starcraft, they'll have to pry it from my cold, head hands.
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ill be getting this for the custom games
if the main game is good as well then thats a bonus!
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There isn't a thread because there is nothing to talk about. We know absolutely nothing about the game other than what it looks like.
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And that they've split the campaign into 3 separate games.
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So that was true. That's kinda gay though, do I need to buy all of em if I just wanna play in bnet with some friends or random bnet homos? Or how does it work?
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So that was true. That's kinda gay though, do I need to buy all of em if I just wanna play in bnet with some friends or random bnet homos? Or how does it work?
The first game will be a complete game. It will feature the Terran campaign. The second and third games (which will either be featured as expansions or stand-alone games) will feature the Protoss and Zerg campaigns. Yes, you will be able to play on Battle.net (Battle.net 2.0!!) with only the first game.
Essentially instead of having 3 campaigns in one game, you're getting one massive campaign for each of the races. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the second and third games will be priced accordingly.
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60$ per game.
No but seriously is the point of this that they can get the game out earlier (They aren't going for the christmas market are they?) or what? Like I'm glad if it gets out sooner because they do this but it feels kinda weird way to go about it.
I really don't give two shits about them campaigns but I'm going to get this for the custom maps and online play.
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60$ per game.
No but seriously is the point of this that they can get the game out earlier (They aren't going for the christmas market are they?) or what? Like I'm glad if it gets out sooner because they do this but it feels kinda weird way to go about it.
I really don't give two shits about them campaigns but I'm going to get this for the custom maps and online play.
It will allow them to release the game much earlier, yes, but no they aren't going for a Christmas release they said sometime in 2009 (I suspect Q1). If they didn't release it in parts they would either have to shorten the campaigns or delay the release by god knows how long.
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whoa has blizzard really not released anything since 2004?
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Guys you know this won't come out for like five years. Do you remember Warcraft 3 :(
Also Starcraft is pretty huge in the states man! It's just been . . . so long . . .
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apparently not, remember what happened to starcraft ghost.
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apparently not, remember what happened to starcraft ghost.
StarCraft: Ghost isn't a Blizzard title per se, they just published it. They didn't develop it or anything.
So yea, it's been 2004 since Blizz's last title.
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whoa has blizzard really not released anything since 2004?
Between WoW updates, D3, and SC2.... this doesn't surprise me at all.
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whoa has blizzard really not released anything since 2004?
well they released the burning crusade in 2007 but that was only an expansion pack.
But of course, blizzard is not as good as other gaming companies when it comes to giving an ETA on their products.
I actually really like blizzard's thing with this, when people ask when some new thing is being released they say WHEN IT'S READY YA FUCKIN NERDS so it always comes out with a certain degree of polish. Wow was buggy as shit on release but considering the scale it was still really polished imo
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I don't know about you but i'll be going to town with the Map Editor.
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whoa has blizzard really not released anything since 2004?
well they released the burning crusade in 2007 but that was only an expansion pack.
Also in three days Wrath of the Lich King.
Those are all World of Warcraft expansions though. Generally when you make a timeline you leave out expacs.
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You have no idea what is involved in adding content to an mmo if you equate it to just an expansion.
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Guys you know this won't come out for like five years. Do you remember Warcraft 3 :(
Also Starcraft is pretty huge in the states man! It's just been . . . so long . . .
They are aiming for a 2009 release. It has been in development for 5 years now already. They also released BETA keys for an "upcoming title" to anyone who attended Blizzcon (this is assumed to be for Starcraft 2, because they have stated Diablo 3 is out of the design phase but they still need to add all the content and that it will appear after the first installment of Starcraft 2 and Battle.net 2.0). Anyone who has managed to get their hands on Starcraft 2, though, has seen how far along they really are. All three races were already playable last year in their entirety.
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You have no idea what is involved in adding content to an mmo if you equate it to just an expansion.
Good thing I don't then, eh?
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To my understanding this is pretty much exactly like Starcraft 1 except REAL 3D WOO and some new units and less old units. Is there any BIG changes?
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To my understanding this is pretty much exactly like Starcraft 1 except REAL 3D WOO and some new units and less old units. Is there any BIG changes?
The whole thing is a pretty big change if you ask me, but it looks very much still Starcraft--which is a good thing. One of the biggest changes as far as I can tell is actually going to be the World Editor which is more powerful than the WC3 editor and they have explicitly said they want to add new functionality and support for the mod/custom map communities.
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Cool. That and simultaneous PC/Mac release, I'm sure to get this game once it comes out. I hope the expansions won't cost too much. Not that I really care since I've always been better with Terrans but I,m a sucker for stories and I'll want to get through all 3 sides of it.
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That poster reminds me of an RPG Maker game overhype without a demo.
Though, I've never played warcraft or starcraft, hell maybe I'll play this.
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Also Starcraft is pretty huge in the states man! It's just been . . . so long . . .
And in South Korea, it's pretty huge there. Like, I hear professional Starcraft players are like rockstars or something over there.
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Yeah. You know how in the US, all of the jocks and ripped dumbasses get all the girls in school? Well, in South Korea, it's all the top Starcraft players who get the women. And if you can't play Starcraft, no matter how ripped you are, girls will ignore you.
It...it kinda goes the other way, too.
Anyways, they apparently started development on Starcraft 2 after the Warcraft 3 expansion came out...so it's been a good four years to make stuff. Which means we can expect this game to come out in ~996 years, if we're lucky.
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And in South Korea, it's pretty huge there. Like, I hear professional Starcraft players are like rockstars or something over there.
It has virtually become the national sport of Korea, with several official competitions and dedicated 24/7 TV channels. If you're interested, go to Team Liquid (http://www.teamliquid.net/) and check out their VODs.
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Awesome, now I can tell StarCraft fanboys around here to move too South Korea and actually have a truthful excuse as to why.
I always wanted too get into 3d modeling, but I wanted to start small so I think I might get into it making units for StarCraft2.
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does south korea not have hipsters who are all SC IS MAINSTREAM and they play command and conquer instead.
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Starcraft is still very popular here in California, and I know a few co-workers who are hellbent on getting their copies of Starcraft 2.
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Starcraft is still very popular here in California, and I know a few co-workers who are hellbent on getting their copies of Starcraft 2.
prolly cuz california is full of koraens...... :fogetlaugh:
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lol when I went to korea I sat on the couch watching the starcraft channel for like a half hour while my wife's younger brother tried to explain to me in terrible english why its on TV and how many people actually watch it.
also if you ever walk into the little internet cafes there(PC-BANG) chances are good you'll find no less than 3 korean males(multiply this by 12 for the bigger ones in larger cities) in their early teens chainsmoking and eating ramen with rotten cabbage all over it while playing starcraft
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The Starcraft channel...
Well they are like rock stars there so I am not suprised. Sure Starcraft is like THE strategy game in it's time and still is to an extent today, with it's only setback it's graphics (but at the time it was pretty good so...) that any shitty computer can play (thats why I still play it), but I never figured it'd be so huge. I mean Diablo 2 having a higher score of most popular game, even more so then WoW (although this was 1 and a half years ago so it probably changed now, but that blew my mind when I saw it) was the most glory any old game would still get to this day but man... CELEBRITY status to the people who play Starcraft pro? I know where to go if I ever go pro in gaming, South Korea.
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The Starcraft channel...
Well they are like rock stars there so I am not suprised. Sure Starcraft is like THE strategy game in it's time and still is to an extent today, with it's only setback it's graphics (but at the time it was pretty good so...) that any shitty computer can play (thats why I still play it), but I never figured it'd be so huge. I mean Diablo 2 having a higher score of most popular game, even more so then WoW (although this was 1 and a half years ago so it probably changed now, but that blew my mind when I saw it) was the most glory any old game would still get to this day but man... CELEBRITY status to the people who play Starcraft pro? I know where to go if I ever go pro in gaming, South Korea.
they're not big celebrities, like the average dude or dudette in a bar or on the street is not gonna know who won the last starcraft tournament. It's just that because Korea has a denser population of dorks who spend all their time playing starcraft and that online games are a little more common among youth over there that it becomes profitable for the media to cater to them with things like starcraft/RTS TV channel.
It's probably like a few notches below minor league baseball player or 3rd-tier professional wrestler as far as celebrity status goes.
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Not looking forward to this at all.
The graphics are too WC3 like, and the fact that they have a rock paper scissor like system pisses me off, and the whole game was made noob friendly so that micro isnt a very large issue. It's going to suck. If I get it, I'll probably play it for a week and switch back to SC1.
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Not that I agree the game is Rock Paper Scissors, but what kind of system would you prefer?
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I liked the new gameplay videos with all the new units like the Mothership and Changling and stuff. But yeah, something about the graphics is throwing me off. They changed how some of the units look and got rid of some (like the Reaver). There seems to be more "if you build this, you pretty much own the other guy" units like the Mothership and the zerg units that can move underground and corrupt an entire Terran base in a matter of seconds. There will be more strategy involved in this though for Terrans at least, now that supply depots can be sunk underground. But I think it will be a long time before Korea gives up SC1 for SC2 tourneys.
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the whole game was made noob friendly so that micro isnt a very large issue. It's going to suck.
I dunno why you would say this because I just watched the new video they have on the blzzard SC2 site and they micro a lot in it and it's a WIN OR LOSE thing where if you don't do it you are at a huge disadvantage.
Also SC1 and WC3 both had a lot of weight on microing your troops and builders so why wouldn't this have? What makes you think there is no real micro in this?
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Is anyone interested in mapping? I did a lot of WC3 mapping and I can't wait to get my hands on the World Editor for this game.
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Is anyone interested in mapping? I did a lot of WC3 mapping and I can't wait to get my hands on the World Editor for this game.
I'm very interested in this because they say it's a lot better than the one for WC3 which was already really great although trying to add more units and shit was laggy as fuck, I dunno why this was but if you renamed a unit or added a new one it took like 15 seconds which is pretty gay.
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I haven't thought about that, but I just dislike the fact that there is one unit to counteract units and stuff. I think it would be better left like how sc 1 was, how there's just more powerful units then the weaker units, like weak units would be early in the game and you'd get heavier shit later.
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I dunno why you would say this because I just watched the new video they have on the blzzard SC2 site and they micro a lot in it and it's a WIN OR LOSE thing where if you don't do it you are at a huge disadvantage.
Also SC1 and WC3 both had a lot of weight on microing your troops and builders so why wouldn't this have? What makes you think there is no real micro in this?
It's just the new features. Like the zealot rush thing, I can't rush zealots no more, and the fact that you can select so many units, itll be harder to do things.
Some of the stuff in this video are one reason too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7k3ZM6bQx4&feature=related
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I'm very interested in this because they say it's a lot better than the one for WC3 which was already really great although trying to add more units and shit was laggy as fuck, I dunno why this was but if you renamed a unit or added a new one it took like 15 seconds which is pretty gay.
You had to turn off the brushlist and it would stop lagging,
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You had to turn off the brushlist and it would stop lagging,
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What exactly do you mean because when you say brushlist I think of like 5 different things and I'm uncertain what exactly you are referring to. Do you mean the layer palettes? Or the preview window where you can preview the 3D models (aka Selection brush)???
I can't find any feature that would be BRUSHLIST so I'm lost and dumb.
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Nevermind I found it in the Window menu. It makes no sense though that something like thta would lag this entire editor.
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What exactly do you mean because when you say brushlist I think of like 5 different things and I'm uncertain what exactly you are referring to. Do you mean the layer palettes? Or the preview window where you can preview the 3D models (aka Selection brush)???
I can't find any feature that would be BRUSHLIST so I'm lost and dumb.
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Nevermind I found it in the Window menu. It makes no sense though that something like thta would lag this entire editor.
I'm not sure of the specifics, but it's because whenever you change ANYTHING--like ANY field--it updates the entire list and that causes a lag.
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I haven't thought about that, but I just dislike the fact that there is one unit to counteract units and stuff. I think it would be better left like how sc 1 was, how there's just more powerful units then the weaker units, like weak units would be early in the game and you'd get heavier shit later.
I am really struggling to comprehend this. You would rather they had it so the later tech units had no counter at all and were impossible to beat? Like whoever built the biggest, baddest unit first wins?
It's just the new features. Like the zealot rush thing, I can't rush zealots no more, and the fact that you can select so many units, itll be harder to do things.
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They took out a cheap tactic and now you have to actually play the game to win instead of some bullshit 2 minute wins which aren't fun for anyone. Also how can you say being able to select more units is a BAD feature? It's EASIER to do things if you're able to select more units, and it means you can do the same movements and attacks in 2 or 3 clicks instead of 20 clicks. There's practically no disadvantage at all about this unless you're playing against someone who would only ever use one group of units (like me) and consequently they're no longer as easy to steamroll.
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I am really struggling to comprehend this. You would rather they had it so the later tech units had no counter at all and were impossible to beat? Like whoever built the biggest, baddest unit first wins?
They took out a cheap tactic and now you have to actually play the game to win instead of some bullshit 2 minute wins which aren't fun for anyone. Also how can you say being able to select more units is a BAD feature? It's EASIER to do things if you're able to select more units, and it means you can do the same movements and attacks in 2 or 3 clicks instead of 20 clicks. There's practically no disadvantage at all about this unless you're playing against someone who would only ever use one group of units (like me) and consequently they're no longer as easy to steamroll.
No, because the later tech units would cost more and take longer to build. I meant it as in, instead of one unit that counteracts another unit, why not like, get powerful and more powerful units? I mean like SC1.
What's a cheap tactic? Now the zealots are the most powerful early units in the game. Not that they weren't in sc1 already, but at least you could kill them if you had range. And selecting more units is a positive and a negative. Because you have such a range on the amount of units you can select, it'll be just as easier to select units that you don't want to select, thus slowing you down.
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But...but Starcraft had Rock-Paper-Scissors gameplay too?
At least, that's how I remembered it. Goliaths would beat air units, but ground units would beat them. firebats beat zerg but got beat by anything else basically. seige tanks beat everything always except for air units or the superfast zerglings. etc etc etc.
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Yeah I don't know where your getting that impression. Hero units are basically just enhanced versions of other units. Each unit was distinct, if not by their stats it's by how they attacked, attack speed, skills, hell what they could attack, and their range.