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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Tau on November 15, 2008, 02:36:40 am
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Theatrical Trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7zmFhxxbGQ&feature=related)
Imdb Link. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830515/)
'Quantum of Solace' continues the high octane adventures of James Bond from 'Casino Royale'. Picking up literally hours after the previous film left off, after being betrayed by Vesper, the woman he loved, 007 fights the urge to make his latest mission personal. Having captured Mr. White, and in pursuing his determination to uncover the truth, Bond and 'M' interrogate Mr. White who reveals the organization which blackmailed Vesper to steal Bond's casino winnings is far more complex and dangerous than anyone had imagined.
Forensic intelligence links an MI6 traitor to a bank account in Haiti where a case of mistaken identity introduces Bond to the beautiful but feisty Camille, a woman who has her own vendetta. Camille leads Bond straight to Dominic Greene, a ruthless businessman and major force within the mysterious criminal organization known only as 'Quantum'.
On a mission that leads him to Austria, Italy and South America, Bond discovers that Greene, conspiring to take total control of one of the world's most important natural resources, is forging a deal with the exiled General Medrano. Using his associates in the organization, and manipulating his powerful contacts within the CIA and the British government, Greene promises to overthrow the existing regime in Bolivia, giving General Medrano control of the country in exchange for a seemingly barren piece of land which is, however, a main source of the South American water supply. In a minefield of treachery, murder and deceit, Bond allies with old friends in a battle to uncover the truth. As he gets closer to finding the man responsible for the betrayal of Vesper, 007 must keep one step ahead of the CIA, the terrorists, and even 'M' herself, to unravel Greene's sinister plan and stop Quantum from getting its way.
Anyone seen this yet or planning on seeing this? I thought Casino Royale was an amazing movie, definitely gave the series a better look and feel in my opinion. Plus it wasn't just some middle aged guy running around with perfect accuracy and screwing every bitch in sight.
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I just came out of this, and I really enjoyed it. I think I probably enjoyed this more than Casino Royale, but I'm not sure. It was definitely less stylistic and it didn't try to be as modern, if that makes sense, but it was pretty intense and still had those funny, fun James-Bond-is-a-douchebag moments that kept the mood relatively lighter than it would've been without them. I enjoyed it pretty thoroughly!
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Yeah I saw this yesterday. I thought it was really good! I'm not sure if I liked it more than I liked Casino Royale but it was definitely a good movie.
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I only saw about an hour of it because then my copy went into german language and I don't speak german, but what I saw was a boring flash of action and angst. Again only judging by the first hour, it did have some cool moments that were good, but it seems a letdown compared to Casino Royale... And having similar looking people in similar clothes meant that I never really cared about anyone while watching it.
I mean it's noway a bad bond film (Moore and Brosnan have safely made that impossible for a film to be on the bad end of the bond spectrum for quite some time!!) but my hopes were high as Casino Royale was really good.
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I watched Casino Royale recently and loved it, so I can't wait to see this. I did hear it was the shortest and most action-packed Bond movie though. Is that true?
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in the first hour I'd say about 5 minutes did not contain fighting or chasing.
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in the first hour I'd say about 5 minutes did not contain fighting or chasing.
Arnold/Stallone styled action or Bourne action. Y'know cheesy or gritty? I also hear it's got a lot of quick cuts through out.
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Bourne action without a doubt. Some of the fight scenes reminded me of the Bourne movies tbh.
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I think the Second Unit Director is the Bourne guy, that'd be why.
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I heard most of the action sequences where filled by Bond shifting gears. Actually I read this in the paper.
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Just in the first car chase
Its not really a bad movie (went to see it tonight) but its hardly like the first one which I think is simply because it isn't as NEW and FRESH as a new Bond series.
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my friend went to see it and was pretty disappointed, just backing up kaworu here. he's not like me with movies either so if you think this is UGH STEEL AND HIS ELITIST MOVIES nope!
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I already said this in another topic but it was disappointing, and I'm usually pretty easy to entertain. The plot wasn't interesting, the movie dragged on for too long and it got boring near the end, and even many of the action scenes were pretty blagh, especially the airplane part. It was still mildly entertaining and it wasn't bad by any means (especially when compared to most Bond movies) but yeah, I was disappointed.
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I was way, way, way disappointed the first time. Movie is a 100 times better the second time. Good movie.
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why did you see it twice if you didn't like it the first time
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The only bond movies I've seen other than this one are Goldeneye and Die another Day.
I don't like Daniel Craig as much as Pierce Brosnan as Bond, just because Brosnan's Bond was a much cleaner, gentleman Bond, while Craig is an unstoppable Bourne-type kill anybody Bond. But this movie was good! I really enjoyed it, and caught myself gasping a few times when Bond did some pretty extraordinary stunts. Like beating up 4 guys in an elevator with his handcuffs on.
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Personally, I prefer this Bond and as especially as he's developed more into this cold and almost merciless killer who only occasionally likes to show his nice side. The film though? I thought it was pretty awful. I thought the directing was pretty good (the best bit in my eyes, was the opening credits where James is floating through nothingness, which I thought was incredible), but I felt the script was far too weak and there was way too much action, which fucking sickened me. I know I'm missing the point of Bond here, but I can't help it (they're trying to get more serious, thus I look at it serious).
I want the whole point of bond to be destroyed and I want the next Bond film to be very heavily script-based and about darker themes, with less action. Even if that would never happen in a trillion years.
P.S. I'm also pretty pissed they turned Mathieu Almaric into the generic foreign villain. Go watch him in The Diving Bell And The Butterfly, far superior film and Quantum of Solace makes him a characterless shit.
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Who the hell likes Brosnan's Bond, it was like he was flying through the movies for the money. Everyone knows Connery's Bond is the best.
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Also I too was dissapointed with the movie. :/ Not as good as I thought it would be.
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The only bond movies I've seen other than this one are Goldeneye and Die another Day.
I don't like Daniel Craig as much as Pierce Brosnan as Bond, just because Brosnan's Bond was a much cleaner, gentleman Bond, while Craig is an unstoppable Bourne-type kill anybody Bond. But this movie was good! I really enjoyed it, and caught myself gasping a few times when Bond did some pretty extraordinary stunts. Like beating up 4 guys in an elevator with his handcuffs on.
How is beating up 4 guys in an elevator 'an extraordinary stunt'?
I was also a tad disappointed at this movie, but I still liked it. There was too little plot and too much action, and after the previous bond I was expecting something much more. Still a solid action movie.
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I only saw about an hour of it because then my copy went into german language and I don't speak german, but what I saw was a boring flash of action and angst. Again only judging by the first hour, it did have some cool moments that were good, but it seems a letdown compared to Casino Royale... And having similar looking people in similar clothes meant that I never really cared about anyone while watching it.
I mean it's noway a bad bond film (Moore and Brosnan have safely made that impossible for a film to be on the bad end of the bond spectrum for quite some time!!) but my hopes were high as Casino Royale was really good.
Brosnan was in some of the worst Bond movies, but I still think he was also in the best (Goldeneye). And before anyone mentions the videogame, I hated that game...
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Goldeneye as not even the best as is considered one of the worst dude...the only thing that saved it was the videogame.
Will see it today or tomorrow depending on what my pop says because he wants to see it with me.
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What! Goldeneye is awesome. :(
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I like Roger Moore's James Bond just for the fact that he is probably the hammiest actor ever to walk on the face of the planet (except maybe Richard Chamberlain) and as such the character is just a ridiculous (and hilarious) as he is.
I'm looking forward to seeing this movie soon. I did see a whole lot of commonalities between Bourne and Casino Royale, and I guess that that is just the direction that action films are taking nowadays: surrealistic, highly choreographed, fast-cut low-brow fist fighting combined with some light acrobatics and jumping over large gaps between things. We can probably say that it is filling the niche that used to be filled by eastern-style pulp action before it became as highly styilized as it is now. Its not that western action films now are more realistic, but that they present themselves as such, especially compared with othjer late 20th century action films, where its pretty much a few hours of explosions, gunshots, wooden/nonexistant acting, some cheesy one-liners and a poorly laid out romantic sub plot (see: Cobra).
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why did you see it twice if you didn't like it the first time
My friends were going to see it again and I was like, okay. I will go too.
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My friends were going to see it again and I was like, okay. I will go too.
Yeah, the same's happened to me before...
Although I've never disliked a film first time through but enjoyed it the second time through.
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Who the hell likes Brosnan's Bond, it was like he was flying through the movies for the money. Everyone knows Connery's Bond is the best.
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Also I too was dissapointed with the movie. :/ Not as good as I thought it would be.
I didn't mind Brosman as Bond. It beats Roger Moore who was just camp, and oft too old for the role. Brosman brought a serious-swagger to his lines, unlike the other Bonds. It wasn't the best Bond, no... but he had some goodness in him. As for the movies, my favourite of his was Tomorrow Never Dies, which if you are a Bond Book Fan, was great. It really captured the essence of a good Bond Book. The villain a meglomaniac, but not a cool one; the henchmen, memorable and forgettable at once; and a few nods... Like, when Bond drives into MI6, he's driving a Bently (his car of choice).
The current Bond, is yes Bourne. What can we expect? Bourne is a hot item right now. People want more of that type... So here's Bond, Just Bond For Now.
As for Sean Connery as Bond, I've never understood the fascination. Is it that he was the first to take a stab at the role? Well, unfortunately if you've seen the original film Casino Royale, recall the "Real" James Bond in that film... The English Gentleman one... The OLD guy... That's what Bond is 'supposed' to be. That's how Ian Flemming envisioned him. Sad, isn't it? David Niven played him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qISVGbrC8w0
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This was probably the most heavy handed Bond has ever been. The pacing of the movie is literally "New scene GUY JUMPS OUT OF CURTAINS AND FIGHTS new scene BOND SHOOTS SOMEONE new scene CAR CHASE" it's ridiculous.
It was a decent action movie, not as good as Casino Royale, but definitely mid-tier Bond film.
IMO Timothy Dalton was THE bond. Pretty much every Bond fan disagrees but Dalton's Bond was never portrayed as a SUPER HERO fighting against the world. License to Kill was awesome.
Top 5 Bond Films:
From Russia With Love (the closest to a spy movie Bond series has gotten)
License to Kill
The Spy Who Loved Me (decent combination of humor and serious action, Moore's best)
Goldeneye (Brosnan at his best)
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Lazenby is a terrible actor but this film had the best plot)
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I love James Bond and this film didnt dissapoint me.
The second i saw Casino Royale i was looking forward to the next one. That film was so good and so was this one. Yeah, probably not AS good, Casino Royale being somewhat a classic i think, but it was a wicked film. More of a classic bond than the last, and brilliantly endearing as such.
Daniel Craig, perhaps joint best with Connery.
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I actually agree 100% with that list but maybe in different order.
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casino royale was the only bond film i ever gave a shit about and i was actually looking forward to this but i don't really want to now. i was hoping for a 2 hour film with maybe 20-30 minutes of action at most, and i thought it might have been going that way cos of the steps casino royale took to making bond a dickhead. i don't remember if there was loads of action in the casino royale, but i didn't think it was too much at the time apart from the stupid opening sequence. maybe i wouldn't like it if i watched it again.
anyway, yeah, i'm just a bit confused at this being a 90 minute car chase. they had loads going for them, they really didn't need to pander which is the only reason people make movies like this unless they were REALLY out of ideas.
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casino royale didn't have too much action and it was contained to a few bits.
But this film really is car chase, fist in face, car chase, fist in face (repeat)
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This was probably the most heavy handed Bond has ever been. The pacing of the movie is literally "New scene GUY JUMPS OUT OF CURTAINS AND FIGHTS new scene BOND SHOOTS SOMEONE new scene CAR CHASE" it's ridiculous.
It was a decent action movie, not as good as Casino Royale, but definitely mid-tier Bond film.
IMO Timothy Dalton was THE bond. Pretty much every Bond fan disagrees but Dalton's Bond was never portrayed as a SUPER HERO fighting against the world. License to Kill was awesome.
Top 5 Bond Films:
From Russia With Love (the closest to a spy movie Bond series has gotten)
License to Kill
The Spy Who Loved Me (decent combination of humor and serious action, Moore's best)
Goldeneye (Brosnan at his best)
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Lazenby is a terrible actor but this film had the best plot)
I like License to Kill too (at least when I last saw it) and Timothy Dalton was good in it. I dunno if he's the best Bond or not but I definitely didn't mind him.
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Saw it in Germany a few weeks ago...disappointed in it, especially since Casino Royale rocked. It was okay, but the tower of action scenes ruined it. The whole "argh I want revenge!" storyline also annoyed the hell out of me. I'd give it a 5/10 and hope for something like Casino Royale next time.
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IMO Timothy Dalton was THE bond. Pretty much every Bond fan disagrees but Dalton's Bond was never portrayed as a SUPER HERO fighting against the world. License to Kill was awesome.
I'd definitely agree with this, although I liked the Living Daylights more (although I haven't seen Liscense to Kill in a long time).
Despite having a few really ridiculous aspects, the Living Daylights had one of the most believable plots IMO
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what dragged it down was that it still had comedic elements being dragged from the moore era that didn't work with the theme. And various aspects like the useless bond girl who serves no real place in the story, the badguy being too I dunno, nice to be really threatening etc. It's a good film, but has the curse of being made right after view to a kill (which could have either been one of the best bond films or one of the worst... at best it fluctuates between the two, at worse it is one of the worst)
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being creator of the James Bind franchise I really should sit down and watch all the movies