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Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Calunio on November 24, 2008, 01:41:48 am
I want to turn this into a discussion, but can I start just asking questions?

1 - What's the most evil thing you have ever done?
2 - What's the most evil thing someone has ever done to you?
3 - What's the most evil thing someone has ever done?

I appreciate honest answers. It's some sort of personal research.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Mama Luigi on November 24, 2008, 01:50:55 am
1 - I think I gave a kid a bloody nose once. Beyond that idk.
2 - Someone stole all my pokemon games, my gameboy color, and my pokemon cards out of my locker. I had some fucking rare cards and that was at the peak of my obsession so YEAH, PRETTY PISSED. I later found out he sold them for drug money or something... this was back in 6th grade.
3 - The holocaust.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: dragonx on November 24, 2008, 01:53:57 am
1. i found a $5 bill on the groundand took it without even thinking "wow this could be someone elses..."
2. someone put marker on my shirt
3. holocaust
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Layzer Phish on November 24, 2008, 01:54:57 am
1. I havent done very many evil things in my life... But one time my cousin and I tried drowning my other cousin my not letting her get to a wall in the deep end of a pool when we were younger. Also one time My friends and I held down another kid in school and tickled him til he pissed himself

I know, EVIL!!!

2. I Honestly cant think of anything beyond someone pantsing me at school. I will have to come back to you on this one...

3. Holocaust (up for debate)
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Ragnar on November 24, 2008, 01:59:26 am
1. I hit my brother with an action figure once, like threw it

it doesn't sound too bad but it was one of those WCW ones that didn't have any moving parts and were made of this hard shit (god WWF figures were so much better)

2. I'd rather not say

3. Holocaust or Epic Movie
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: big ass skelly on November 24, 2008, 02:10:34 am
Calunio what is your avatar? Like, I know it's the bottom half of a famous photo of houdini doing his naked prison escape BUT what's with the little RM2K guys

don't care about the topic at all, EVIL STUFF c'mon
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Mince Wobley on November 24, 2008, 02:12:49 am
1- I kiled a baby bird I found (I made a topic about this at the time) by feeding it a milliped. I thought they ate millipeds normally because it promptly accepted it when I placed it near it's beak but it died instantly.
2- Nobody ever did anything really evil to me.
3- There are so many things. You know those people who torture innocent children? That's quite evil
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Alec on November 24, 2008, 02:14:05 am
yeah i don't understand this topic. there's no real discussion that can be had. It's just lists and list topics are shit.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Layzer Phish on November 24, 2008, 02:17:21 am
Quote from: Alec on November 24, 2008, 02:14:05 am
yeah i don't understand this topic. there's no real discussion that can be had. It's just lists and list topics are shit.

tum diddly um... :rolleyes:
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Strangeluv on November 24, 2008, 02:17:58 am
To be honest, I think I would ruin the topic if I answered the first two questions (these faggots already shit-posted it up), so I'm not going to. But I just want to ask what the research is for.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Randy Moist on November 24, 2008, 02:21:03 am
Quote from: Mark on November 24, 2008, 02:10:34 am
Calunio what is your avatar? Like, I know it's the bottom half of a famous photo of houdini doing his naked prison escape BUT what's with the little RM2K guys
It's from his game, jesus h christ!
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Alec on November 24, 2008, 02:21:25 am
3) holocaust
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Calunio on November 24, 2008, 02:23:28 am
"What the hell is on your mind right now?" is a stickied topic, so I don't think this is pointless.

Strangeluv: take your chances. ^^

The purpose of the research is kinda implicit, but I think it would only make sense if we had the "raw data" first.

---edit---

Maybe "holocaust" is a questionable answer, since it wasn't done by a single person. You could also say "capitalism", for instance.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Shadow Kirby on November 24, 2008, 02:31:36 am
Quote from: Ragnar on November 24, 2008, 01:59:26 am
3. Holocaust or Epic Movie

Epic Movie imo.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Vellfire on November 24, 2008, 02:32:44 am
I already forgot the first two but I just wanted to answer the last one, since I don't think I've told this story before (maybe I have I really can't remember either way it's the worst)

So I worked at my dad's office (doctor's office, three doctors including my dad, pretty small) over the summer scanning patient documents since the office was trying to transition to electronic charts.  I basically just scanned pieces of paper and entered relevant data about them.  It was an incredibly boring, awful job.  But, I liked everyone there.  Well, almost everyone.  You see, for the most part the staff at this office had been the same my whole life.  Therefore, I knew all of them very well.  If I were to ever get stuck at school and couldn't get a hold of my parents, I'd immediately try to get a hold of one of the women there to come get me (this only happened once when school got out in the middle of the day for snow and the reason I couldn't get my mom is because she was on her way already, the basic point is that I'm really close with these people).  I had worked the two summers before filing and repairing charts, as well as doing odd jobs that the regular staff couldn't find time for.  I expected this summer to be the same only with me scanning charts instead of filing them.
I was trained initially by one of the women I knew well, but after the first three or four days I was being watched by a woman who was only hired a few months before I got there that summer.  Right away I could tell she was trouble but I kept quiet and did okay.  After a while I realized that I was seeing less and less of her and I was doing more and more work.  It turned out she was taking more and more smoke breaks and longer lunches--I was doing her work.  Well, whatever, I was more concerned with it getting done than anything else, and she obviously wasn't doing it.
Later on, one of my friends came to work at this office doing the same job, because there were so many charts to be scanned.  We had separate rooms across the hall.  She told us to get together in one office and work on them together (one of us disassembling the charts, the other scanning them).  Shortly afterwards the main boss comes down and tells us we aren't allowed to work together (I suppose because she thought we were CHATTING IT UP or something, we were working the entire time).  I found out when I talked to her later that the woman in charge of us was the one that told on us.  
See, the thing this woman didn't realize for about a week or two was that both of my parents worked there and one of them was one of the doctors.  She didn't realize that these people had known me my whole life and trusted me entirely, and that when I explain the truth to them, they believe it.  She had tried a few more times to get us in trouble before she found this out, but unfortunately nothing ever happened to her because of it.  We spent the rest of the summer doing her work (although at this point the boss KNEW it was her work and that we were the ones doing it) and praying that she left early.

If you don't want to read any of that, this is the main part (although the setup is important).  Trying to get a pair of honest kids fired when you're a grown woman who doesn't do shit is pretty bad anyway, but this is just fucking....disgusting.

Here are two important facts for this part:  my aunt worked at a nearby hospital, and this shit woman's shit husband worked there with her.  He couldn't stand my aunt because she actually WORKS whereas he wants to asshole off all day (doesn't really work at a hospital buddy).

Last year, the day after my birthday, my uncle died.  He got pneumonia, and several of his organs had failed.  He died on a ventilator.  A day or two after the funeral, my aunt gets a call from someone who does nothing but make fucking gasping noises for a while then hangs up.  She receives more than one of these calls.  Obviously this completely devastates her, it's obvious that this person is doing it to spite her, and knows details about her husband's death and knows her phone number.  Through this and a few other things I can't remember at the moment (it was very upsetting to me at the time too so I don't remember it well, my brother and I were one step away from finding their house and breaking their windows), it becomes obvious that this woman and her husband are behind the calls.  Because it's so upsetting to my aunt, however, they never get reported.

I'm pretty sure both of them have lost their jobs since then, and I'm hoping the two of them never find jobs again.  If I were to see that woman again, I'd take a fucking bat to her head, no question.  I have never heard of someone doing something so shitty for no good reason.


edit: holy shit this is way longer than i thought
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Lennon on November 24, 2008, 02:43:27 am
1 - Umm.... Im not quite sure. I'm going to say harrasing a kid in grade 4, doing it with 20 other people led by me.

2 - Getting my one of best friends (Also one of the nicest people ever) to do drugs, turning her into a person who doesn'r care about anyone and making her fail school.

3 - Holocaust, or invention of Income Tax. (You have to understand)
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: headphonics on November 24, 2008, 02:46:22 am
man why do people keep saying holocaust
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: dragonx on November 24, 2008, 02:50:51 am
Quote from: headphonics on November 24, 2008, 02:46:22 am
man why do people keep saying holocaust

i wrote it because i thought if i didnt i would be saying it is not an evil thing....
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on November 24, 2008, 02:53:58 am
can concepts be an evil thing because child sexual molestation and rape starts a cycle that doesn't end in one generation usually.

and we could go even more esoteric and be like THE CONCEPT OF SHAME HAS CAUSED EVERY MAJOR CONFLICT POSSIBLY HITLER...YOU AINT A GOOD ARTIST DUDE.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Strangeluv on November 24, 2008, 02:56:26 am
Epic Movie wasn't caused by one person. But everyone who went to see all the shit before it.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: datamanc3r on November 24, 2008, 02:59:18 am
1. In 3rd grade this autistic kid in my class was bugging me, so I pretended to throw a ball and told him to run out and look for it. It was raining heavily outside, and he tripped and hit his head against a concrete planter.
2. Kid kicked me in the balls in 4th grade. Karma?
3. YOUR MOM I really don't know. A hell of a lot of evil things've been done before, all pretty bad.

Quote from: headphonics on November 24, 2008, 02:46:22 am
man why do people keep saying holocaust
Because it was pretty...I dunno...evil? Yeah, it wasn't ONE PERSON who started it, but it deserves saying.

I was actually going to say making the atomic bomb. But so far, it's done pretty well for us in terms of making sure we don't start off random-ass wars (sort of). But I'm sure I'll stand corrected when the first terrorist fires one of these suckers at someone.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on November 24, 2008, 03:15:41 am
no dude the arms race hasn't done anything but create an artificial stalemate that the second one person feels threatened enough will ensure M.A.D. protocol and bam we destroyed humanity. nukes are pretty awful yeah.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: headphonics on November 24, 2008, 03:23:22 am
of course it was evil but it's not like it's FAR AND AWAY the most evil thing in history.  people could say slavery or the near-genocide of native americans or EUROPEAN IMPERIALISM/destruction of culture throughout the world and in africa especially and a host of other really evil things.  i just don't know why so many people defaulted to the holocaust so quickly, seemingly without much thought, as if it was a no-brainer or something.  2+2?  4.  most evil thing in history?  the holocaust.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on November 24, 2008, 03:34:06 am
most people seem to connote thing with single event and slavery is more of a period as is IMPERIALISM.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Boulvae on November 24, 2008, 03:34:57 am
Well without the holocaust some medical improvements wouldn't have happened. Good came from the holocaust.

Anyways...

1) My 10th evilist thing, bullying some little kid I knew, eventually he became an asshole. But then again evil is subjective.

2) Being stalked for 2 years, or more...

3) The discovery of agriculture which started our ignorantly induced endless cycle of increasing numbers of starving people that will only increase still until we all accept and admit that were not above the laws of nature.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Vellfire on November 24, 2008, 03:36:50 am
Quote from: Boulvae on November 24, 2008, 03:34:57 am
Well without the holocaust some medical improvements wouldn't have happened. Good came from the holocaust.

Anyways...

1) My 10th evilist thing, bullying some little kid I knew, eventually he became an asshole. But then again evil is subjective.

2) Being stalked for 2 years, or more...

3) The discovery of agriculture which started our ignorantly induced endless cycle of increasing numbers of starving people that will only increase still until we all accept and admit that were not above the laws of nature.

So wait you are saying agriculture is bad, the holocaust was not so bad....
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Boulvae on November 24, 2008, 03:41:22 am
I'm saying both are bad, and both created good... I geuss.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on November 24, 2008, 03:44:33 am
its doktormartini...he has been reforged.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on November 24, 2008, 03:45:19 am
3) the rape of nanking
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Mince Wobley on November 24, 2008, 03:49:53 am
When the japanese were vivisecting people in WW2, that was also pretty evil.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on November 24, 2008, 03:51:28 am
1.)Not sure...I'm usually pretty nice to people. It was probably when I was about 4 or so and my sister wouldn't share her strawberries with me, so I stabbed her in the lip with a fork and made her bleed.

2.)This fat kid used to bully me in the 8th grade every day, so that's probably it.

3.)I really don't know. Holocaust I guess? I will use the answer a lot of people have, oh well.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Rajew on November 24, 2008, 03:52:11 am
Guys he is researching karma. he wants to see what the evilest thing we did was, and how hard we got hit in return.

Am I right? (I am)

anyways
1. made my high schools front page a picture of a scrotum
2. have to pay 300 bucks + 30hr community service for said evil act (which is a lot more punishment than I deserve!!)
3. creation of humanity (whether it be by divine or natural methods, or even stranger methods not for mortal minds to know)
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: datamanc3r on November 24, 2008, 04:03:33 am
Wow. How'd they catch you?
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Rajew on November 24, 2008, 04:15:18 am
Quote from: Juris on November 24, 2008, 04:03:33 am
Wow. How'd they catch you?
It would be a derail here but many people, most notably TFT and RPG know the story...in #G&D...(and they tell much more interesting versions than mine)...

*plugging #G&D*
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: headphonics on November 24, 2008, 04:21:42 am
btw this is actually a pretty dumb topic and if it doesn't turn into ACTUAL DISCUSSION or something worthwhile very soon i'm locking it.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Rajew on November 24, 2008, 04:24:19 am
maybe if everyone explained their number 3 it would be discussion but mine sucks so whatever here it goes


good/evil/morality is a silly human concept so without humanity there would be no evil, hence the creation/spawn of humanity created all evil and thus was the most evil event.

I win.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Mince Wobley on November 24, 2008, 04:33:04 am
Don't lock it... just let it die if people don't post their walls of text here
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Ragnar on November 24, 2008, 04:35:51 am
3) Vampire Weekend
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: Boulvae on November 24, 2008, 04:43:02 am
*ahem*

Evil is subjective, for instance way back then blacks weren't considered humans and were treated more akin to animals. Nowadays thats unthinkable in the modern world up front but in reality alot of people (or atleast alot more then you'd probably be willing to believe) still hold some of those views. Mostly in 3rd and 2nd world countries is it more openly expressed (inter-racism).

To someone who starved with no food but people around you, cannibalism doesn't seem like such a bad thing anymore so long as you don't kill them but wait for them to die. This is of course assuming there really isn't any other food. Cannibalism is one of those never do things but in reality a corpse is a corpse no matter what way you place it.

While death in of itself is viewed as generally bad when the only bad thing about it is how we can't truly understand what happens after it happened for the person that died.

Some people view a cut off finger a just sentence for Graffiti while others believe death to all criminals will solve our problems. Some people view indifference as inhuman and alot of us are hypocrites (myself included) for what whatever it is we preach is good or bad justice. Not many people however have ever or can ever accept good coming from evil and evil coming from good actions.

Which makes the line drawn needlessly complicated and better off saying there is no line and is just a tool to be used.
Title: [TELL] Evil stuff
Post by: mkkmypet on November 24, 2008, 04:49:05 am
1. hmm well i guess in terms of the things ive done that have hurt other people the most... (not physically though, ive never done anything like that really) the most "evil" thing i've done would be not caring about addictions that i have. people that care about me had tried to stop me from doing self-destructive things, but there were times when i shooed them away and didn't care. that hurt them a lot, as i know now.

2. oh jeez, a lot of things. well, first thing i think of is being sexually abused over the course of a year or so when i was 9. that was a pretty fffing low thing for my brother's best friend to do. also, i've had a lot of troubles with friends being pretty stupid too. my best friend told some pretty serious secrets to people who i didn't want knowing them, and it ruined my reputation and made me lose a lot of friends. it worked out in the end because i was able to deal with the situation fairly well, though.

3. probably rape and things like that. maybe it's just because i know how bad it is, but i think that it's definitely caused a lot of bad in this world, not just for the initial victims. those victims are known to become messed up in a lot of ways and some go on to abuse their own children. it's a cycle. not only rape, actually. basically, the worst thing that people can do is to mess up perceptions of love and pain for people at a young age. things like that cause lots of problems for witnesses and victims. messed-up childhoods are a common cause for serial killers, pedophiles, rapists... and holocaust-starters.
after all, Hitler had a pretty messed-up childhood too (for one thing, his dad's 3rd wife was Hitler's cousin and also his mom).