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Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Marcus on November 28, 2008, 02:31:52 am
This game has been in beta since forever but recently (er, couple of months recently) the final version was released and holy crap is it good.

Mount & Blade is an open world sandbox action adventure roleplaying battle simulator game (man what a mouthful).  The best way to describe it is Sid Meier's Pirates with actual gameplay.  You start off creating your character and then you're thrust straight into this large world that's practically at war with itself.

You can do whatever you want; build an empire through trade, raid settlements, fuck over everyone else, play in tournaments, siege castles, etc.  As you grow in strength, you build up an army and renown.  As you increase in popularity and army size, you're given land and a castle to call your own.  

Battles are the games highlight and I've never played a game with a system so simple but so intuitive.  Huge scale battles between multiple sides feel really cluttered and hectic and skill as well as leadership will see you through the day.  You use experience to level up and further improve your skills allowing you bigger armies or better fighting abilities.

Yeah, for 20$ this game is pretty amazing and if you like this kind of stuff then you have no excuse NOT TO get it.  

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MODS
This game's modding community is ridiculous and there are mods that transform the game from being set in the crusades, to a realistic adaption of Britain in the 13th century, to a fantasy mod, Middle Earth, dungeon crawling traditional RPGs, and even a tax/economy sim.  Here's my list of "must haves" for beginners.

Battle Size Changer (http://www.mbrepository.com/modules/PDdownloads/singlefile.php?cid=8&lid=107): Increases the size of battles.  Default game restricts battles to 100 troops both sides but this can max it out up to 1000.  I have set to 500 as I've never encountered an enemy troop of prodigious size and it would probably crash my computer.

Graphical Enhancement Pack (http://www.mbrepository.com/modules/PDdownloads/singlefile.php?cid=10&lid=625): Makes the graphics not suck.  There's optional mods like HDR which make things look better.

Huge Vocal Pack (http://www.mbrepository.com/modules/PDdownloads/singlefile.php?cid=6&lid=964): Lots of new sounds.  Makes the game sound more realistic.

Native Expansion (http://www.mbrepository.com/modules/PDdownloads/singlefile.php?cid=10&lid=904): Upgrades the Native campaign (that's the default campaign M&B comes with) with added options and tweaked gameplay.


Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sarevok on November 28, 2008, 02:46:05 am
I bought this for something like $4 when it was 0.200 or something. Naff then, but great now. Combat ALWAYS ruled.

I find it a bit hard to get back into though. Essentially you end up doing the same thing over and over, and battles get a tad easy unless you go for OVERWHELMING ODDS :(
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Marcus on November 28, 2008, 02:48:26 am
As far as fights go, I found a couple mods that balance things out.  They basically take into account speed as vanilla M&B makes everyone from a naked warrior to a full plate wearing two-sworder the same speed.  There's a bigger strategic element when you realize that it's near impossible to walk up even the smallest hill while wearing heavy armor.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: DoctorEars on November 28, 2008, 04:07:48 am
This actually sounds really cool, and if I see it next time I'm in town I might pick it up.

Sounds good though.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Vesper on November 28, 2008, 05:52:13 am
is this game cool in the same way the gothic games are cool?

if so no thanks
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Mr. Actionist on November 28, 2008, 05:57:44 am
Does this have an actual story yet? I played it when it was about .963 or something, and got bored by the lack of plot, although the combat did keep me entertained for a while.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sredni Vashtar on November 28, 2008, 06:15:55 am
I'm a little surprised not to see The Last Days mod listed in the first post, but then again I think they're still working on the 1.x port.

Also as soon as they fix the shitty siege mechanics I will start playing this again. Otherwise I think I've experienced pretty much all there is to experience as the game stands.

Granted there is quite a bit to experience.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Ragnar on November 28, 2008, 07:11:41 am
hero reminds me of Barney Rubble 95
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sarevok on November 28, 2008, 08:23:51 am
I'm a little surprised not to see The Last Days mod listed in the first post, but then again I think they're still working on the 1.x port.

Also as soon as they fix the shitty siege mechanics I will start playing this again. Otherwise I think I've experienced pretty much all there is to experience as the game stands.

Granted there is quite a bit to experience.

It's still as pointless as always. 100 days to siege a town...but your army with run out of food around day 90 (if you FILL your inventory), and by day 80 you will have no troops left and be overrun by river pirates forest bandits.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: FrostyPink on November 28, 2008, 09:36:57 am
hero reminds me of Barney Rubble 95
Imagine what you could do with some mod making tools and some Flintstones MP3s.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: WarV on November 28, 2008, 09:48:39 am
Yeah, waiting a siege out was always pointless. You pretty much just have to take it head one which can be hard if you bring the wrong weapon. More then a few times I went into a siege and forgot I still had a lance and not a sword :(

But anyway it is a fun game, but it gets old. There is only so many times you can fight for pretty much nothing before it gets old. Yeah you can be called Lord a useless rock that does nothing.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sarevok on November 28, 2008, 10:39:40 am
Yeah, that's pretty much my problem with it. The combat is, as said, amazing. Best mounted combat in any game EVER, no exceptions.

But fuck, what are you even fighting for? Even the 'noble deeds' of overthrowing the evil King of Swadia feel pointless. And once you've done that it's just a case of TAKE OVER THE WORLD BECAUSE WE CAN....what's the point :( When you even have only one town/castle/village to your name it feels like you have everything you can possibly have.

The mods do improve on this a little, but as of yet none of them have added decent story to this game. I liked the one that added a custom castle that you could 'upgrade' like 30 times with different buildings and shit, and it would get invaded by people chasing you on the map. Don't think it ever got ported to retail version though :(
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Marcus on November 28, 2008, 05:00:58 pm
you guys have been spoiled by the modern rpg.

i'm throwing out all post 1990 consoles and playing the oldies instead.  no "story" there.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: SupremeWarrior on November 28, 2008, 05:31:03 pm
Does this game have multiplayer? now that would be awesome!
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sarevok on November 28, 2008, 05:47:19 pm
Nope, but I was wishing earlier it did...even just like taking control of a swadian knight with someone else would be a laugh.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Achiro on November 28, 2008, 10:31:54 pm
There's a good reason I'm not playing it, and it's not because it's the best game.
It's because it isn't.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Ryan on November 29, 2008, 03:56:33 am
There's a good reason I'm not playing it, and it's not because it's the best game.
It's because it isn't.

... What?
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Boulvae on November 29, 2008, 05:12:13 am
So... you got a link for the place I can find the other mods?

I might try this out next year, right now money is being put in gifts for the family.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sarevok on November 29, 2008, 05:23:54 am
http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=126e3816b93e1ffe7a3f1ae193b2de41&board=9.0

Official forums is your best bet really.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: PTizzle on November 30, 2008, 05:06:43 am
I've been playing this for a few years now, it's a great game. It's a bit glitchy and there's not really any story or anything but the combat is incredible and it's definitely a one more round kinda game. I need to try retail - is it worth picking up?
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sarevok on November 30, 2008, 10:10:16 am
What marcus didn't mention in the OP (I think) and really, REALLY should've is that you can download the full game. For free.

http://www.taleworlds.net/mb_download.html

Basically you're limited to level 7 (of 50, but realistically you won't hit higher than 40-45), and that's it. All the game files are there, nothing is 'locked away', etc etc. If you're not sure, just download it and give it a go! A LOT has changed since the early version (except the combat, of course. Which is as great as always), and if you enjoy it you've just gotta send 'em some money and unlock it, which takes about 5 minutes.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Marcus on November 30, 2008, 03:41:49 pm
well, didn't know about that.  if anything being able to play the full game for a limited of time should be a big motivator!
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sarevok on November 30, 2008, 09:17:53 pm
Weeelp. I have been playing 0.960, I think. Upgraded to the latest version and the interface is so much uglier. :(

Graphics aren't everything but damn it's SO MUCH uglier it's really, really off putting. Also as I thought I'm kinda struggling to get back into it. The 'intro' is a bit dull until you get some troops going, so gotta brave the storm and the endless looters...
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: maladroithim on December 01, 2008, 04:07:20 pm
I bought this for $9 or something when the game was half finished.  It's okay but dude . . . I think you're giving the game too much credit.

Also you did not mention this is an indie game with a staff of two people and no budget!
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sarevok on December 01, 2008, 08:42:23 pm
Also you did not mention this is an indie game with a staff of two people and no budget!

I don't think anyone cares! That doesn't change the game at all.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: maladroithim on December 01, 2008, 09:48:43 pm
I don't think anyone cares! That doesn't change the game at all.

We are at a site like this and you are saying nobody cares that this is an indie game :(
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Marcus on December 01, 2008, 09:58:12 pm
I bought this for $9 or something when the game was half finished.  It's okay but dude . . . I think you're giving the game too much credit.

Also you did not mention this is an indie game with a staff of two people and no budget!

In 2007 they started a company so it's now a company of 6 people!
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sarevok on December 02, 2008, 12:16:08 am
Also the game is published and iirc on sale in shops? It's not exactly indie any more by any definition really.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: NightBlade on January 24, 2009, 01:45:52 am
Sorry, I'm going to necro this thread with a tidbit not all may know about. Steam is selling this game this weekend only for 75% off.

I myself am going to give this game a look and probably buy it after I try the trial version.

...Ah screw it, I'll just get it. 7.50 isn't that much; far less than what I wasted on that PoS logitech G13.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Rowain on January 24, 2009, 11:24:57 pm
thanks for the heads up! I was interested in this game for awhile but never bothered actually getting it, but 8 bucks is way too good to pass up!
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Rowain on January 25, 2009, 05:19:42 pm
This really is a nifty game, ESPECIALLY at 8 bucks. The basic vanilla game is very playable and interesting, but there really are a ton of cool mods that simulate all kinds of different periods in history.

Yeah the game is clearly low budget, but it's also pretty polished, and while I do find the UI to be SIMPLISTIC, it's not overly ugly or bad. It just looks, you know, LOW BUDGET.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Marcus on January 25, 2009, 07:06:48 pm
Apparently Steam ran out of registration keys last night.  HOW MANY COPIES DID THEY SELL OVER THE WEEKEND???
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: NightBlade on January 25, 2009, 10:54:15 pm
I am just addicted to this game. Last night I fired the game up at midnight, next thing I know its 3 in the morning (and I had work the next day >.>)

It has kind of an Oregon trail feel to it... Except it's actually fun.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Rowain on January 25, 2009, 11:19:03 pm
I am just addicted to this game. Last night I fired the game up at midnight, next thing I know its 3 in the morning (and I had work the next day >.>)

It has kind of an Oregon trail feel to it... Except it's actually fun.

Yeah I had this EPIC ADVENTURE earlier where I lead my small band of 25 men against a village in the Khergit Khanate (I was enlisted as a Mercenary in armies of Swadia), and because of some really stupid tactical decisions (and because I was utterly outnumbered) I got crushed. I then went about the land trying to raze another small army, and lead a second attack. This time, I had my men hold ground in a narrow chokepoint between some hills and fences, which funneled the enemy and prevented all 50-60 of them from surrounding and beating the shit out of me. Victory was mine! Definitely a very neat little game. It's got its FLAWS, like half the quests you get are DELIVER THIS LETTER TO THIS PERSON, and combat on the open field is sometimes little more than chaos, and the actual combat system feels really clumsy sometimes (but maybe this is a realism thing??), but it's still really fun.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: NightBlade on January 31, 2009, 02:35:58 am
http://www.gamershell.com/news_68490.html

Mount and Blade to get a multiplayer expansion, which is really fantastic to hear.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: dragonx on January 31, 2009, 03:20:52 am
i cant stop playing this game

ive gotten 4 of my friends hooked on it
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: the_hoodie on January 31, 2009, 05:45:20 am
Just downloaded this game the other day, and I must say that it's pretty great!
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: WarV on January 31, 2009, 02:45:56 pm
Have the siege battles been improved yet?
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Marcus on January 31, 2009, 03:14:22 pm
Have the siege battles been improved yet?

no they're still the same.

the siege battles aren't exactly difficult you just storm the castle walls whoever kills everyone first wins.

the only thing i don't care for are the sudden reinforcements which is caused by the caps on how many troops you can have onscreen.  it's pretty jarring to slay everyone in the courtyard and then suddenly 50 guys spring up out of thin air.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: NightBlade on January 31, 2009, 10:35:40 pm
After playing Warhammer Online, this game's sieges are a step above my previous experience (as astonishing as it may be to some). It could use a little more though. Like maybe scaling walls and some deeper strategy. Also, some ui tweaks would be just fantastic. Being able to see your force's current status (killed / wounded) should really be a given.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: the_hoodie on February 01, 2009, 06:10:02 am
Guys how do I sell items that are worth like 6k? I got a piece of gold from looting a town and I dunno where to sell it!


EDIT: Wait I'm an idiot nevermind
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Rowain on February 01, 2009, 07:28:38 pm
The expansion sounds very awesome!

I had this epic battle the other day. I was trying to siege this Vaegir castle, with only like 50 men (most of them vets though). While I'm waiting for the next day to come, KING YAROGLEK comes out of nowhere and attacks me with like 150 men. I was hopelessly outnumbered obviously but figured putting up some sort of fight was better than nothing. Best tactic I find is to form up your foot and archers, and then lead your cavalry around to strike the enemy in the flanks. It seems to drive them into a bit of confusion, and ties their archers up so you can then order your foot to charge them. I can beat enemy armies twice my size with this technique, provided they don't have too many horsemen or veteran troops. I employed this against Yaroglek, and we had a pretty EPIC BATTLE. I have my battle size changed to support 200 so pretty much everyone was on the field from the start. In the end, EVERYONE except me, a few of my knights, Yaroglek, and a few of HIS knights, were dead. My horse was dead. We ended up fighting a tense little battle on the summit of a hill, and in the end, Yaroglek cut down the last of my knights. it was just ME AND HIM and it was pretty cool, like BRAVEHEART or something. I actually lost in the end, Yaroglek had a horse and I didn't and we sparred for awhile but he caught me with a lucky blow and I went down.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: WarV on February 01, 2009, 07:53:46 pm
I have never had that epic of a battle before. Generally I just run all calv and lance people down.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: the_hoodie on February 05, 2009, 06:27:31 am
This game is absolutely fantastic. I tweaked the game so my army can be huge without having to deal with morale, and epic 500 v 500 battles are just amazing.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: NightBlade on February 05, 2009, 06:35:29 am
Is it possible to completely obliterate a faction off the face of the world? I've come close to just destroying the Kingdom of Rhodoks in a final decisive battle; but when the enemy only has one army left, my commander decides it would be a better idea to wander aimlessly around the castle instead of attacking a castle that half half of our current troop level. Oh and if I deviate from the group I get annoying prompts warning me that I have orders to follow Sanjar Khan! I've tried to siege the castle on my own, but 60 vs. 200 doesn't end well, we end up doing ok; but they always manage to scrape a victory while my fellow lords use their time to wander around the castle we could be sieging. At this point the Rhodoks are making a steady recovery and this idiot commander still insists we wander around aimlessly and do nothing.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Rowain on February 05, 2009, 09:09:20 pm
Yeah you can destroy a faction. I downloaded this mod called Sword of Damocles that adds a sixth faction (some Roman Empire knockoff) that starts with just a shitload of armies. Basically they are "invading" Calradia. They started by warring with the Nords and had completely destroyed them after a few months.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Marcus on February 05, 2009, 09:22:48 pm
swadian knights are disgusting but building them up takes a long time.

rhodoks has the best calvary but everything else is subpar.

nords have the best infantry

khergis khajit or whatever has the fastest troops and decent archers

i'm forgetting the other faction but obviously they aren't important enough for me to remember
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: WarV on February 05, 2009, 10:11:14 pm
I forget the name, but the last one has good crossbowmen.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Rowain on February 05, 2009, 10:15:09 pm
Vageirs, and yeah, they seem to be pretty good with ranged.

Khergits definitely benefit from the fact that they have access to mounted troops right from the raw recruit level, which makes them ridiculously versatile and annoying to fight.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: NightBlade on February 05, 2009, 10:16:15 pm
swadian knights are disgusting but building them up takes a long time.

rhodoks has the best calvary but everything else is subpar.

nords have the best infantry

khergis khajit or whatever has the fastest troops and decent archers

i'm forgetting the other faction but obviously they aren't important enough for me to remember

Nords are freaking ridiculous, I have a pair of maxed out Nordian infantry and they run around one shotting calvary and take on three enemies at the same time.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Marcus on February 06, 2009, 12:04:48 am
Vageirs, and yeah, they seem to be pretty good with ranged.

Khergits definitely benefit from the fact that they have access to mounted troops right from the raw recruit level, which makes them ridiculously versatile and annoying to fight.

yeah they've got calvary at early level but their later level upgrades are sooooo underpowered.  nords are basically vikings and even the peasants can handle sea bandits but swadian knights are just broken.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: goldenratio on February 06, 2009, 04:24:38 am
wait a second is this thing single player? i thought this was an mmorpg this whole time. if this is single player it sounds fucking cool as hell. i cant believe i thought it was multiplayer. dammit i missed that steam sale, too. fuck.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Marcus on February 06, 2009, 04:49:45 am
wait a second is this thing single player? i thought this was an mmorpg this whole time. if this is single player it sounds fucking cool as hell. i cant believe i thought it was multiplayer. dammit i missed that steam sale, too. fuck.

hahaha that's what you get for making assumptions.

yeah it's a single player game.  basically, think of it as sid meier's pirates minus the mini games plus a really good combat system.

there's some wonky moments, but i can't recall a 3rd person action game with combat that felt so... visceral.  when i ride by a footsoldier at 40mph on my horse and cut them in half with my two handed great sword it feels really really good (especially if you download the realistic sound pack which makes arrows whizzing by you sound AWWWWWWESOME).

there's a few mods recommended on 4chan that i forgot about; one focuses around you as a lord building up a fief and expanding your kingdom and another is a world war 2 total conversion with guns that actually work really well.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: goldenratio on February 06, 2009, 04:51:52 am
let me just ask one thing. how is the camera? i find it hard to play 3rd person games like this without at least WoW's fluidity of camera/movement control. If I have to use the middle mouse button I will be pissed.

ps are there any fun magics and stuff (like mods or whatever) or just like weapons. man i read this entire topic i swear but i guess i wasnt paying attention, it was so long ago.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: NightBlade on February 06, 2009, 04:56:50 am
wait a second is this thing single player? i thought this was an mmorpg this whole time. if this is single player it sounds fucking cool as hell. i cant believe i thought it was multiplayer. dammit i missed that steam sale, too. fuck.

If this was an MMORPG, WoW would be in deep shit. An MMORPG that's fun; the genre isn't ready for that.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: maladroithim on February 06, 2009, 04:00:32 pm
If this was an MMORPG, WoW would be in deep shit. An MMORPG that's fun; the genre isn't ready for that.

It has always made me so mad that no MMORPG could bother to make core gameplay that was legitimately engaging and fun.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Sarevok on February 08, 2009, 01:25:26 am
swadian knights are just broken.

try 20 vaegir archers vs 20 swadian knights, or even 200 archers vs knights. the archers will most likely not lose a single man.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: WarV on March 04, 2009, 07:47:11 am
There is some very interesting news in Mount & Blade. A multipayer expansion is going to come out. It will be battle only with up to 32 players(+bots) on a server.

I just wounder if there will be level and equipment or will everything be balanced.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: Rowain on March 04, 2009, 11:59:08 am
There is some very interesting news in Mount & Blade. A multipayer expansion is going to come out. It will be battle only with up to 32 players(+bots) on a server.

I just wounder if there will be level and equipment or will everything be balanced.

This was postedon the other page bro!
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: WarV on March 05, 2009, 03:55:35 am
Really? Must have been some kind of extra shit about it from when I heard the news.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: big ass skelly on March 27, 2010, 10:08:29 pm
I started playing this a few weeks back, it's pretty fun. I wish my computer wasn't so medieval so I could raise my battle size a little.

Who's going to get Warband when it comes out on the 30th (I think)?? I'm going to and I know Sare is. They've made some changes to the single player like a new faction and you can get married JINKIES and to the combat (i think the biggest additions are being able to kick and like riposte attacks if you attack the opposite direction to their attack within a certain window or something) but the most important thing is you got some freakin ONLINE MULTIPLAYER ACTION now. Also it's a stand-alone thing so you don't need to buy the original m&b to play it.

Here's some vids??

this guy is rubbish


these 2 don't seem to be rubbish but this is a long video of two nerds "dueling". heh.

Let's be a warband guys. let's rule caldradia.
Title: Mount & Blade, the best game you aren't playing.
Post by: SupremeWarrior on March 28, 2010, 12:19:44 pm
Man that looks awesome!