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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: ThugTears666 on January 03, 2009, 07:05:57 am
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Yes it is the time of year for these crappy beginning/end of year lists. I divided my list into how good I thought the albums would be because then you aren't just reading a boring list but my opinion on the albums also. Try to do the same or I'll give you a warning because I don't want to read BULLETPOINTS OF NAMEDROPPING.
Really Looking Forward to in 2009
New Ghostface (duh), I think this will be very good for obvious reasons.
MF Doom and Ghostface project: See above.
Outkast: One of the best groups ever and they have been around for a very long time but always dropping consistent albums.
The Ecstatic-Mos Def: Have you listened to his album with Talib Kweli?? Its seriously one of the best albums of all time.
Eros-Deftones: I'm going through a phase where all I listen to is the Deftones at the moment.
Kinda looking forward to in 2008
Raekwon- Only Built for Cuban Linx 2: Well it has had about a million different release dates and has been constantly pushed back so I think the time for this album to shine has passed (it would probably have done really well in 2006 when it was gathering HEAPS of interest) but now days I think it won't sell very well and probably won't be that great. (I'd love it if it was but yeah).
Dr Dre- Detox: see above
New Between the Buried and Me: Colors was very good!!!
Cappadonna - Slang Prostitution (Chamber Muzik)- He's a Wu affiliate so I'm a little interested.
Uni5-Bone Thugs-n-Harmony: They haven't released a good album in nearly a decade and they sold out pretty hard on their latest but with Flesh out of jail hopefully they can come back with some passion.
The Blueprint 3- Jay-Z: It will probably be a decent album.
D'Angelo, Ginuwine and MJ as well. Although MJ will probably never come out.
Mastodon-Crack the Skye
might download
Eminem-Relapse: He's an annoying brat and this will probably be not very good since it was many years since he had stuff to talk about.
Untitled by Dredg: Wasn't too impressed with their leaked track.
I rushed this towards the end as I'm going out soon but yeah you get the point so your turn! I'll post more if I remember them because I know already I forgot heaps!
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Like you said, Cuban Linx 2. I'm hoping it lives up to all of Rae's hype but it's been a long time coming, which is sometimes a sign.
I also want Mondo Cane, a Mike Patton project. He's covering a bunch of 50s and 60s Italian pop songs. Supposed to come out last year but now it's early 09... hopefully.
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I don't think I'm awaiting anything with bated breath or whatever, but:
New Sonic Youth album! Their last one was really good and they're always pretty consistent anyway so yeah, I'm looking forward to this.
Flipper are releasing a new album too. I'm alternately looking forward to this and dreading it but since their entire sound is based on being as sloppy and ugly as possible it's not really something that'd be easy to fuck up! Also the bassist for Nirvana has joined the group, which is cool.
Also Richard Hell is working on a new album! http://www.richardhell.com/cgi-bin/forum/showmessage.asp?messageID=8761:
Also, believe it or not, I’m in the studio. It’s an intense project that we’ll get to describing here soon, but I’m loving it, and it includes the guitar players Marc Ribot, Bill Frisell, and Ivan Julian, and my singing and writing, and will result in an album.
So yeah, Richard Hell rules and I am really looking forward to this! Ivan Julian was an original Voidoid and the other two guys are apparantly seminal noise/jazz guitarists so I'm interested in finding out what it sounds like.
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well theres plenty too lazy to think of everything but at least um
porcupine tree - well my favorite band so no surprises here. it's supposed to come out in september and after foabp steven wilson said he thinks their next album is going to be quite different so i'm excited for whatever style they are going to go with this time. they have already said it's less metal and got more of a classic rock sound to it but there have also been rumors that it's going to be more electronica/industrial influenced and that suits me very well.
dredg - one of my favorite bands and i have been looking forward to their new album for ages. the leaked track was pretty mediocre but i have a feeling it's some b-side anyway. it got its moments but overall it wasn't very good. but the live songs i have heard were good and so far dredg hasn't released anything bad so no reason to not look forward to it.
pure reason revolution - another album which was supposed to come out in 2007 like dredg. it's also coming out in march and based on what i have heard so far, this is going to be less alternative/prog and more electronica but we'll see.
anathema - their new album was announced in 2006 or something and it has been coming for a long time. at one point it was supposed to be a double album but it ended up being single cd which is completely fine with me because i'm expecting a really cohesive album. steven wilson (who is producing their album) said it's really good and their best album yet and i love the direction anathema have taken and the three songs they have released since their last album are all great so i'm really excited for this.
mastodon - haven't listened to mastodon in ages but they are p.cool so we'll see if their new album lives up to leviathan and blood mountain or not.
ephel duath - not completely convinced with their new songs on myspace but at least it's going to be very different from their previous albums, definitely sounds way less heavier than pain necessary to know or painter's palette. but even though i'm not convinced with their new material yet, it might just take time to grow on me and the whole album could still be as phenomenal as painter's palette which is pretty much one of the best metal albums ever.
john frusciante - everyone on gw knows john frusciante and that he has a new album coming plus there's a topic on his new album so <blank>.
balmorhea - balmorhea makes really good and relaxing music. i don't really know anything about their new album but if it's anything like rivers arms, i won't be disappointed. this is for anyone who likes chillaxing piano tunes.
the appleseed cast - again i don't really know anything about their new album but appleseed cast are definitely one of my favorite indie groups. i like their album peregrine (released in 2006) but i'm still hoping for something in vein of their older material or then something completely new.
kiss kiss - this band is probably the closest you'll get to avant-garde indie or whatever. it's cool.
cursive - all i know is that they have an album coming out in 2009 and it's called mama, i'm swollen. i haven't listened to cursive in some while but i'm still interested in hearing this.
tenhi - new album by this finnish folk band, though far from your traditional folk band. all their albums rock so this one should too.
the dear hunter - indieprogs???
devin townsend - not sure when his new album is coming out but it should be sometime in 2009. apparently it's going to be a mix of lots of different styles (at least metal and ambient) and it sounds pretty swell.
orphaned land - this album was supposed to be released in 2005/2006 or something. apparently it's coming out in summer.
and i didn't know about new sonic youth!
anyway i haven't really looked too much into 2009 releases yet so im sure there will be more good albums coming out.
edit: woah new between the buried and me?? didn't know about that either.
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I'm really gay for Mew, so definitely their new album! They haven't released new material in like 3 years as;ldfj. Also Frusciante. I got no bullet points... try an warn me
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john frusciante, sonic youth, flipper, ghostface/mf doom, raekwon
half of those i learned about just from reading this topic :(
i need to keep up with music news
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heh I have been looking backward in time for music so much that I dont even have a gotdam clue what is coming out in 2009 or what I missed in 2008 that I might like lol
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Gong are doing a new studio album (with Steve Hillage back on guitar duties) which I'm naturally excited about. Also the promise of Invisible opera company of tibet's album, and the usul Daevid Allen BananamoonObscura projects.
Also the second Deltron3030 album is rumoured to be out this year.
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i think most of the albums that i am looking forward to have already been covered in this topic, but some other ones that I can think of is the new deftones album and the new queens of the stone age
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Actually Afura said Deftones but I missed that too. And I completely forgot about new Mew, that's definitely pretty high on my list. New QOTSA is coo' too. And Deltron 3030, fuck ya if that's true.
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New Karnivool album (hopefully), it's been 4(?) years since their last (first) album, and I'm desperately hoping that it's as good, if not better.
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The Dream Theater, No Doubt which is gonna be like damn, and Jay-z's the blueprint.
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is there a website that we can see which albums are going to come out? wiki only shows the album names so it's difficult to see the artist :(.
the only ones i already knew were sonic youth, which i'm obviously excited about, and animal collective, which i've already heard.
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dont worry im sure pitchfork will put up something for you
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LOL
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it was the joke we all thought to make
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too soon?
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hmm, I guess it's the new beastie boys for kicks. might check out the new alice in chains too.
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The new Deftones album and Karnivools new album are on my list.
Also Glassjaw are supposed to be releasing their third LP, but I'm not holding my breath!
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haha afura thinks detox or the ghostface/doom albums are ever coming out.
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DragonSlayer, did you mean "Deerhunter" or "DearHunter".
When I was working at this concert place, I was talking to some random dude. He said he was in DeerHunter (DearHunter?) and that they were playing that night. I had never heard of DeArHunter and had never seen DeErHunter. I was really shocked to hear that DeerHunter was playing without me knowing ahead of time and that they were playing with such bad bands lol. Anyways, when DEARHUNTER finally played, I realized it wasn't the same band. hahahah How are people allowed to do that? Aren't they kind of riding off the other bands rep?
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Deerhunter man, you should get Microcastle/Weird Era cont.
it is one of the best records of 2008.
Edit: oh, The Dear Hunter. That's another band.
Also I'm surprised GW is not so hot on Animal Collective, when AC is becoming one of the biggest bands of the internet.
Expecting Merryweather Post Pavillion
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The Empyrean by John Frusciante.
But I dont normally look foward to stuff, I just check the stuff I cross into.
I hope there is a new Six Organs Of Admittance this year.
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Deerhunter and The Dear Hunter are different bands and I meant The Dear Hunter. I haven't heard anything about a new Deerhunter but if they are releasing something in 2009, it'd definitely be on my list. I have no clue if there's a band called Dearhunter as well but I don't think it's that easy to confuse Deerhunter and The Dear Hunter. It's probably more easier to mix Deerhunter with Deerhoof or something.
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haha afura thinks detox or the ghostface/doom albums are ever coming out.
i do not!!!
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dude ds dear and deer are homonyms are you serious.
who would confuse two words that have a single letter difference and sound the same?
now HOOF AND HUNTER. that's a quandary.
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I dunno, I guess the new Royksopp album might be ok
a lot of the people I know haven't made a new album since 1996 or something (like Portishead but they actually released a new album after all this time so they don't count)
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I'm dead serious bro. Sure it's easier to confuse them when you talk about them and don't see how they are written. I wouldn't be confused with either but I still find it easier to mix Deerhunter and Deerhoof up, especially if you aren't really familiar with either band and have seen their names once or twice.
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Give youtube links to kiss kiss, cause I like avant-garde sometimes.
Only thing I found was this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDG7AU0t4MI&feature=related) and I puked a little in my mouth after watching that.
I have no clue on what bands realease stuff this year, so I'm kinda just going
with the flow and finding out once stuff is actually released.
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It's not really so much avant-garde as it is unique sounding indie so don't be disappointed. Anyway:
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chinese democracy...
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haven't you heard, it is already out man
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Also I'm surprised GW is not so hot on Animal Collective, when AC is becoming one of the biggest bands of the internet.
Expecting Merryweather Post Pavillion
i'm really into them. i pretty much haven't stopped listening since you posted that thread about them.
also, i don't really keep up with what's new and what's coming out, but from reading above, i'll be interested for mew's new stuff.
also... deerhunter =/= deer hoof... :fogetmmh:
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The new Deftones album and Karnivools new album are on my list.
Also Glassjaw are supposed to be releasing their third LP, but I'm not holding my breath!
shit bro i forgot about the possibility of a new glassjaw this year. the demo that they released on their site of JFL was a brilliant song, so i'm expecting a lot of great things from it, if, of course, it is actually released (although I am not holding my breath either, since its taken them this long, and daryl seems to have a problem with wanting to focus on the shitty bands that he is involved in rather than the good ones)
haven't you heard, it is already out man
yeah and its terrible
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glassjaw? Isn't that the band Vincent Gallo shoots to death?
<3 Gallo
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Pretty much what DS listed plus deftones.
I haven't listened to QOSTA since lullabies to paralyze. In my head... or something.
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Pretty much what DS listed plus deftones.
I haven't listened to QOSTA since lullabies to paralyze. In my head... or something.
yeah the new one i think is going to be super great though
shep he shot one of their music videos but i think thats it
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eww. glassjaw. headautomatica gone horribly wrong.
edit: not that headautomatica is that great anyways...
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shep he shot one of their music videos but i think thats it
yeah it is one of the finest moments caught on videotape
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It's not really so much avant-garde as it is unique sounding indie so don't be disappointed. Anyway:
Oh sweet. Just found Machines. That song was great. Like SoaD + My Chemical Romance ( :shady: ) and Queen or
something. Now.. either I fly to New York or install Itunes and buy their album there.. all these hard choices :sweat:
Thanks, dude :P
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SOAD PLUS MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE SOUNDS HORRIBLE
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Well, I'll say it again, the taste is like the butt.
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what the hell how do you get system of a down out of kiss kiss
also glassjaw is far superior to head automatica but i don't think we need a daryl palumbo debate today
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Well the Machines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi08TN0N6Kc&feature=related) intro is pretty similiar to Peephole (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oWI3-VGSF4) and they both change musical styles and tempo here and there.
The vocalist is pretty similiar to the singer in My Chemical Romance and I thought some parts sound Queenish also, some
stuff reminded me of mr. Bungle.
Haha, man we really seem to disagree on music here.
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FAT FREDDYS DROP NEW ALBUM
whenever the fuck it is coming out.
also, any arctic monkeys/zutons/muse that might come out ( i dont know if any of them are though )
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There's quite a lot. I'm looking forward to releases by these groups:
Anathema
Arcade Fire
Iron Maiden
Katatonia
Kreator
Mastodon
Morbid Angel
Muse
Paramore
Porcupine Tree
Queens of the Stone Age
Slayer
Sonic Youth
Ulver
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cant wait for that new paramore
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forgot that katatonia is scheduled to release one this year. there is no confirmation that muse is going to do anything yet though, so don't hold your breath yet
man 2009 gonna be hella sweet
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cant wait for that new paramore
Sorry.
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forgot that katatonia is scheduled to release one this year. there is no confirmation that muse is going to do anything yet though, so don't hold your breath yet
man 2009 gonna be hella sweet
this is either an okay jokepost or a funny realpost....
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why?
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idk panda just goes out of his way to be a dick to my posts
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Was Black Holes and Revelations Muse's last album? Cause I really didn't like that one.
I guess I'll check out their new one if they release one this year. Absolution and Showbiz
were pretty cool :P
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Was Black Holes and Revelations Muse's last album? Cause I really didn't like that one.
I guess I'll check out their new one if they release one this year. Absolution and Showbiz
were pretty cool :P
yea that was their last it was okay but every muse album is terrible compared to origin of symmetry (and absolution is superb)
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i cant stand muse man, something about them just doesn't click with me. ive seen them live and everyone was wetting their pants but i didn't think it was even that special. their newest single was fucking annoying black holes and blah blah
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I thought people liked them for being cool live.
A friend saw them as well here in Sweden, but his expierience was kinda ruined
by the fact that 95% of the audience were screaming, horny teenage girls that
just screamed to look cool.
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why?
i thought he was joking and making fun of that dude for liking bad bands like i was but then i realized it was atari and he was probably serious which for me made it funnier.
also muse blows. Fuck Muse
aaaaalso who likes bands for being good live. this is possibly the worst reason i've ever heard to like a band who actively records albums. whelp their music is completely subpar but....you should see the shows they put on
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Dude you're serious? Guess you haven't seen a really good live show then :/
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MUSE :rockout:
didn't they release something in 2008? not that i really care, but i saw it floating around somewhere
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Dude you're serious? Guess you haven't seen a really good live show then :/
more like i have and SURPRISE somehow manage to still grasp the difference between being a good showman and being a good musician. show quality has nothing to do with the quality of the music or the albums. at least, not in the way you're talking about
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I didn't mean people like Muse PURELY for their live stuff and man dude.
It's Live you'll actually see how fucking good musicians they are. Everyone
can sit in a fucking studio for years and make the perfect album, but only a few
can actually do that in front of thousands of people as well.
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yeah it does. plenty of albums have shitty recording. I mean, SYMPHONIES dude why do you think those exist. Shearwater's first album sounds like shit compared to them live.
I mean maybe you are referring to ability and talking about SHIT MUSICIAN MAKING SHIT MUSIC but sometimes a bad recording can make a band sound worse, yeah.
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j spaceman is one of the best showman ever, while standing on the same place for the whole gig
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that is not really what i care about in music. what is the perfect album? i care 100x more about songwriting than musicianship or show quality so whether they're amazing live performers is irrelevant to the quality of the music. everyone can only sit in a studio for years and make the perfect album if you don't care about the quality of the songwriting. once you do the amount of people who are able to create "the perfect album" regardless of how much time they're given drops to nearly no one. i do not really care how well the douche from muse can play that shitty song he wrote in front of thousands of people because regardless of how good he is as PICKING STRINGS ON A GUITAR or how impressed i should apparently be that he is capable of rehearsing a song over and over until he can play it without fucking up and getting over his stage fright, the music is not impacted by this in any way. it's still a bad song, but now it is just a well-performed bad song sweet. i guess if you just sit around listening to music based on how good they are at their instruments then yes the ability to play a good show might seem pretty impressive
yeah it does. plenty of albums have shitty recording. I mean, SYMPHONIES dude why do you think those exist. Shearwater's first album sounds like shit compared to them live.
I mean maybe you are referring to ability and talking about SHIT MUSICIAN MAKING SHIT MUSIC but sometimes a bad recording can make a band sound worse, yeah.
what is this just rambling? do you have a point that is somehow relevant here???? i dont even know what youre talking about something about symphonies blah blah blah too bad a good show does not impact the quality of the music at all because a bad song is still bad regardless of how good a show they put on.
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well duh I thought you were referring to recording quality as well though because I know lots of fuckin albums that sound like horseshit but are much better live.
but I don't think anyone is arguing a band actually IMPROVES in more than a sonic/showmanship quality live so yeah I think you are misreading people saying MUSE KILLER LIVER SHOWS with this idea they think Muse got better in a non-sonic way.
maybe.
I don't know I had brain surgery now I can't do math??
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am i? have you not met people who are like YES, YESSS LIVE SHOWS THEY RULE LIVE and this is the main reason they think a band is good despite stupid premise/bad songwriting/terrible everything else except maybe instrumentation? we just had a convo like last week about how people's main justifications for ever liking a band as awful as kiss was "awesome shows"! this happens and maybe i am misreading it in this specific instance but he said "people liked them for being good live" soooo idk man, that seemed pretty cut and dry! i have no idea why else you'd like muse lol
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i agree that the song writing part is more important than how well a band plays.
at the same time, i like going to concerts for entertainment. if a band is boring live, i probably won't go see them.
if i have a good tiem at the concert, i'd probably see the band as more 'fun' and like them more even if their music still sounds the same :welp:
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It's not just about someone pulling off every note in a song. When it's played live, you'll also get the
essence of the song and start to understand how the people who wrote it actually thought when
making it. I don't know some people maybe are content with interpreting (spelling?) a song personally
and don't give a shit about what the musician thought when arranging the songs (well you can get
some of it from reading the lyrics, but I'm talking about the "mood" of the music).
Also, when playing live, the bands are free to add whatever they want in songs, may be a tiny melody
that only a hardcore fan can hear and that's kinda the point. You'll get way more personal if you play
something live.
Feels like a dead-end here, so I'll stop here :P
People listen to music in different ways. I agree with you to some extent, but don't say that playing
Live doesn't add anything to a song.
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Damn you posting before me. Oh well. Let's get back to topic.
Also, I just realized that my post usually don't come out as I think. I might even need a brain-surgery.
Above, I don't mean that live is better, I just think that if you like a song, you might even like it more
if you see it live.
There. I'm gonna shut up now.
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I'm going to be late for work thanks to you guys lol. THANKS ALOT :cry:
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Yes it is the time of year for these crappy beginning/end of year lists. I divided my list into how good I thought the albums would be because then you aren't just reading a boring list but my opinion on the albums also. Try to do the same or I'll give you a warning because I don't want to read BULLETPOINTS OF NAMEDROPPING.
Really Looking Forward to in 2009
New Ghostface (duh), I think this will be very good for obvious reasons.
MF Doom and Ghostface project: See above.
Outkast: One of the best groups ever and they have been around for a very long time but always dropping consistent albums.
The Ecstatic-Mos Def: Have you listened to his album with Talib Kweli?? Its seriously one of the best albums of all time.
Eros-Deftones: I'm going through a phase where all I listen to is the Deftones at the moment.
Kinda looking forward to in 2008
Raekwon- Only Built for Cuban Linx 2: Well it has had about a million different release dates and has been constantly pushed back so I think the time for this album to shine has passed (it would probably have done really well in 2006 when it was gathering HEAPS of interest) but now days I think it won't sell very well and probably won't be that great. (I'd love it if it was but yeah).
Dr Dre- Detox: see above
New Between the Buried and Me: Colors was very good!!!
Cappadonna - Slang Prostitution (Chamber Muzik)- He's a Wu affiliate so I'm a little interested.
Uni5-Bone Thugs-n-Harmony: They haven't released a good album in nearly a decade and they sold out pretty hard on their latest but with Flesh out of jail hopefully they can come back with some passion.
The Blueprint 3- Jay-Z: It will probably be a decent album.
D'Angelo, Ginuwine and MJ as well. Although MJ will probably never come out.
Mastodon-Crack the Skye
might download
Eminem-Relapse: He's an annoying brat and this will probably be not very good since it was many years since he had stuff to talk about.
Untitled by Dredg: Wasn't too impressed with their leaked track.
I rushed this towards the end as I'm going out soon but yeah you get the point so your turn! I'll post more if I remember them because I know already I forgot heaps!
the worst part of this is I want to make fun of you for saying shit like HEH EVER HEARD OF...BLACKSTAR? but then I realize, no, GW hasn't and I'm all alone on my rappist throne.
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am i? have you not met people who are like YES, YESSS LIVE SHOWS THEY RULE LIVE and this is the main reason they think a band is good despite stupid premise/bad songwriting/terrible everything else except maybe instrumentation? we just had a convo like last week about how people's main justifications for ever liking a band as awful as kiss was "awesome shows"! this happens and maybe i am misreading it in this specific instance but he said "people liked them for being good live" soooo idk man, that seemed pretty cut and dry! i have no idea why else you'd like muse lol
I think that the first thing you should realize about those kind of people, is that they have a shitty music taste.
Who cares about the rest of their rantings, the only words in your head should be "shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste shitty taste".
That's the crux of the biscuit.
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the worst part of this is I want to make fun of you for saying shit like HEH EVER HEARD OF...BLACKSTAR? but then I realize, no, GW hasn't and I'm all alone on my rappist throne.
haha yeah man!!!! i cant believe people don't discuss that album!!! its one of my all time favourites and pretty well regarded
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hey even i have black star heh
also i completely forgot!!!!! new maudlin of the well motherfuckers.
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thats one of the best collab ALBUMS man
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most of the appeal of the live show is capturing the energy of the band performing, and experiencing the energy of the crowd as well. Some bands are able to capture this better than others, and its really just the mood of the show as was previously stated. that being said though, i'd never go see a band live that i didn't like the studio material for anyway, because another part of the live experience is hearing the songs that you come to love in their studio form being performed in actuality with everybody else in the crowd experiencing the same thing that you're feeling , which is kind of a strange, communal concert feeling i guess. whatever, anyways back on topic.
i don't know if its been mentioned yet, but ISIS are also planning on releasing a new album sometime this year.
so is dead letter circus, who are planning on releasing something in may
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Imogen Heap
Kate Havnevik
Ace of Base
And clearly my tastes are so different from everyone here which is why I usually never post in this forum :welp:
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The Ecstatic-Mos Def: Have you listened to his album with Talib Kweli?? Its seriously one of the best albums of all time.
I think I've found a new friend in you for mentioning Blackstar.
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Imogen Heap
Kate Havnevik
Ace of Base
And clearly my tastes are so different from everyone here which is why I usually never post in this forum :welp:
Haven't Ace of Base been like dead for the last 10 years? Last time I heard them was that Happy Nation song or
what it's called when it was aired on the radio like 24/7 >_<
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man man(i like muse)
backtracking here
Kiss Kiss sounds like SOAD and MCR? the f*ck are you on Bonehead, first The Black Parade(its where emos go when they die) and now insulting a band i dearly like??
treading very very thin water here
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im listening to machines again to make sure I am not saying stuff that is wrong, but no man, get new ears or something this sounds nothing like anything you said
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ACE OF BASE AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH are you also excited for new aqua, effifel 65 and the rumor that vengaboyz are coming back!??
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when did you become such a jerk afura?
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just then man BUT seriously ace of base
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Silversun Pickups I hope the new album is half as good as the last one
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just then man BUT seriously ace of base
um youre the one whos excited for rap "music" :welp:
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haha you got me!
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Forgot that Antimatter's going to release a live album this year.
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Oh I think PENDULUM are working on a new album as well and I love that stuff. Keeps me motivated when I am working.
I hope we get more Rock/DnB crossover music.
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Man.. I can't tell if you guys are joking or you really are as narrow and simple minded when it
comes to musical preferences. What the fuck is up with "Bwahaha! You listen to this! It sucks
cause my taste is less shittier than yours!" instead of actually asking what someone might find
good about it and explain why you disagree. I mean what makes you the allmighty judges of
deciding what music is shitty and what is not. People have different tastes and listen/like it
because of different reasons (I don't know, maybe I've been damaged by only having friends
that are guitarists and have very open minds when it comes to listening to music).
And not hearing the resemblence between Kiss Kiss and MCR (in especially the chorus of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9tQNYM_ZPw&feature=related) song)
is just.. man. JUST BECAUSE IT'S INDIE OR WHATEVER YOU LIKE DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T RESEMBLE
A BAND YOU THINK YOU DON'T LIKE BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED BAD LIKING IT ON GW.
Really, tell me why you hate MCR's music here. What makes their chord progression tick you
off this much? Why do their melodies suck according to you? Is there something wrong with
the choices they made while doing the solos to the rhytm guitars? Are the orchestrations to
basic for you? Are the drums too loud for you?!
Note that I'm not asking about the vocalist here since I clearly don't listen to it because of him.
I mean Aqua sucks, but at least it's pretty easy to see why someone would even consider listening to it.
It's like talking to kids here. Oh and, sorry for my bad english :shady:
I'm off to work again and will most likely be late again as well :cry:
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wikipedia says a new boris/merzbow collab was supposed to come out last year but google turns up a march '09 release so i guess that
new sunn O))) eventually apparently. also new the number 12 looks like you in march!
i've been so horribly out of the loop with new music i got like three albums last year :(
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Man.. I can't tell if you guys are joking or you really are as narrow and simple minded when it
comes to musical preferences. What the fuck is up with "Bwahaha! You listen to this! It sucks
cause my taste is less shittier than yours!" instead of actually asking what someone might find
good about it and explain why you disagree. I mean what makes you the allmighty judges of
deciding what music is shitty and what is not. People have different tastes and listen/like it
because of different reasons (I don't know, maybe I've been damaged by only having friends
that are guitarists and have very open minds when it comes to listening to music).
And not hearing the resemblence between Kiss Kiss and MCR (in especially the chorus of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9tQNYM_ZPw&feature=related) song)
is just.. man. JUST BECAUSE IT'S INDIE OR WHATEVER YOU LIKE DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T RESEMBLE
A BAND YOU THINK YOU DON'T LIKE BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED BAD LIKING IT ON GW.
Really, tell me why you hate MCR's music here. What makes their chord progression tick you
off this much? Why do their melodies suck according to you? Is there something wrong with
the choices they made while doing the solos to the rhytm guitars? Are the orchestrations to
basic for you? Are the drums too loud for you?!
Note that I'm not asking about the vocalist here since I clearly don't listen to it because of him.
I mean Aqua sucks, but at least it's pretty easy to see why someone would even consider listening to it.
It's like talking to kids here. Oh and, sorry for my bad english :shady:
I'm off to work again and will most likely be late again as well :cry:
wow okay I'm feeling sick and this will keep my mind off pain so lemme break this down.
"Man.. I can't tell if you guys are joking or you really are as narrow and simple minded when it
comes to musical preferences."
first off what? okay I've made fun of people for their posts here but look at the variety. the OP is hiphop oriented, DS is talking about all his dumb "artistic" indie, and basically I'm not sure you mean preferences so much as tastes. so just a correction there, no one is saying "way to like pop music mateui", they are saying "way to like bad music".
"What the fuck is up with "Bwahaha! You listen to this! It sucks
cause my taste is less shittier than yours!" instead of actually asking what someone might find
good about it and explain why you disagree. I mean what makes you the allmighty judges of
deciding what music is shitty and what is not. People have different tastes and listen/like it
because of different reasons (I don't know, maybe I've been damaged by only having friends
that are guitarists and have very open minds when it comes to listening to music)."
you're not going to like this explanation but it's because why should we? let's analogize this. recently on Top Chef, the top three chefs had their dishes appear on the Today Show and tasted by the hosts. now here's the thing; the hosts are not refined taste testers. these are not people who can define carpaccio, umami, or aspic. most people have never even seen or experienced those. the judges on Top Chef have some of the most refined palates in the world. genetically, some epicureans have been proven to have up to ten times more taste buds than the average person. so when the judging came around, one of the winners was a middle eastern roll. our forum member wash cycle could probably comment on this further (he makes this stuff so), but there's a whole spectrum of flavor there that your average beer and chips person doesn't know. guess what happened? the winner was a watermelon steak with feta, and one of the women didn't even eat the watermelon; she didn't like the taste. the loser was the roll. not only that, kathie lee griffin spat it out. on camera. live. into a sink. this was a WINNING DISH that people as refined as Tom Colicchio had enjoyed, and she spat it out!
now you might be like okay what's the point. the point is when you've hit a certain amount of musical knowledge, some shit just isn't, well, interesting. it's boring. it's not very good. what makes us judges is the same thing that lets you have a valid opinion on anything; knowledge. there's got to be music you don't enjoy, isn't there? and I don't mean like some hard jungalist beat makes you nauseated or you don't know English so lyrics don't affect you. you've got to have heard shit that's in your musical taste but sounds bad for a non technical reason.
you see the great power of the open mind is the ability to close it. you can dismiss stuff for not being interesting or good. sure at some incredibly base level it's taste but do you have to preface every argument with "in my opinion"? do you think anyone is arguing there is a powerful factual argument against Ace of Base? no, it's all about semiotic and cultural worth here and you should know that.
the point is, we could even spend our time telling someone why Sum 41 is terrible and they wouldn't get it! they might be like Katie Lee and just not understand. the irony is of course something I remember panda posting once; most of your friends who have shit taste won't like what you like because they'll lack that knowledge, so you appear just as dumb as they do to you.
it's a waste of time to talk about shitty bands that are just so obviously bad to us, so we don't.
also lol your guitarist friends are probably rockist as fuck.
"JUST BECAUSE IT'S INDIE OR WHATEVER YOU LIKE DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T RESEMBLE
A BAND YOU THINK YOU DON'T LIKE BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED BAD LIKING IT ON GW."
I don't think anyone made this argument.
Really, tell me why you hate MCR's music here. What makes their chord progression tick you
off this much? Why do their melodies suck according to you? Is there something wrong with
the choices they made while doing the solos to the rhytm guitars? Are the orchestrations to
basic for you? Are the drums too loud for you?!
Note that I'm not asking about the vocalist here since I clearly don't listen to it because of him.
heres the crux of the problem, we're already judging music on different terms. solos? orchestration? dogg I don't ever pay attention to that shit and it's important that you realize this is where we are approaching music differently. you're justifying it on some technical terms because, and this is a guess, it's the only way you know how to justify music. if the ability is okay, the band must be okay.
yet there is a certain aura around a band like My Chemical Romance, and it has nothing to do with their power chords. their sensibilities are the same prepackaged nonsense a million other bands have. their lyrics (which you didn't listen to by your own admittence but which are still fair game) are just pretty fucking shit. their aesthetic sense is hollow and empty, and unfortunately I can't elaborate on that for you, it's just something you realize one day. music has more to it than "fun" or "sad". eventually you will see the difference between Fela Kuti and Panic at the Disco, Elliott Smith and Dashboard Confessional, but I can't do it for you! this would be the same thing as force feeding Kathie Lee that mediterranean food instead of just presenting it to her in context; if anything you'd resent it.
and I'm fully aware this post is condescending and I apologize but it's hard not to be because music is like so many other things. if you guys talk programming I'm not going to get it! the problem is though, things like programming, political knowledge, math, it's easy to apply an actual scale. you know when someone has better math than you. music, art, film, these have more ethereal qualities, and so far too many people believe because they like something people don't, it's a taste issue when it's not. taste can, and is, governed by context and facts. there's always going to be small things you can't justify; I love bands like the Hold Steady, the National, and the Gaslight Anthem even when they suck because there's something about their "old school Americana" appeal that rubs me the right way, but for the most part, we don't need to say why MCR sucks because it's almost taken for granted.
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Man, this was a really good post. Missed the non-prepotent side of you man. You might not like me saying what I just said, but this is sincere.
I disagree, however, with your panda quote.
In my experience, my friends, who like shit music, don't look me as an equal on music levels. On the contrary, they know I know more about music and acknowledge that. We don't talk much about it because we have different approach to music and I do not pretend to make them submerge into my music knowledge because it is not in their interest. I'd only do such thing when I find someone open minded enough to listen to someone who has something different to offer, something out of the norm or something I believe has more integrity.
Also my friends know this because I'm a musician. As well as because I spend time investigating music.
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well I don't mean like that but have you ever heard Joanna Newsom and been like "christ if my roommate hears this!"
like this girl was in my room talking about Yellowcard and I was like "haha, what? shut up with you" and then Tom Waits comes on and I mean okay maybe he's not the best and gets a little samey but YELLOWCARD and she was like WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO THIS GRAVELY SHIT THIS IS MUSIC MY DAD LISTENS TO (I think I responded with "yeah and it's clear the best part of him dried up on your mother's thigh" and then laughed because wow what a mean thing to say). when you do get caught listening to shit, you can often see your friends exchange glances: "this is the guy who gives ME shit for my nelly albums?"
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It's really hard to speak about music with anybody I know, GW's cool for that. I know someone who seriously believes Nickelback are the best band ever. The average bands are indie shit and stuff like Evanescence or MCR. It's sucs so much when I only know one person who listens to music I listen to... and it's only Beatles, Velvet underground and 13th floor elevators!
hardely scourging the blogosphere for obscure gems. Fuck, nobody has even HEARD of Funkadelic or Zappa or Beefheart or Gong(even hard to get people to remember a Bowie track).
There was a convo where they were talking bout music and it's like "I'm listening to Blink182 at the moment, I used to like them they were well cool, Wayne what're you listening to?""me? umm, err, Pharoah Sanders" *akward silence*"what's that?"
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@Magical Negro
Man finally someone who has the decency to actually try to read why I think like I do
and at same time try to understand my poor way of explaining things :P
I'm gonna send you a PM later since I think you misunderstood some of my stuff and I
feel that most of the replies after yours will be people flaming me when I try to defend
my thoughts of a band I don't even like in a "typical kind of manner".
I also wanna apologize if my post sounded harsh. Was tired and it wasn't aimed to all
the people in here. I kinda got a bit irritated when the replies after my MCR post were
all "God You've got a horrible taste", followed by me trying to explain why I actually liked
them. After that someone said Muse was cool, and I said I liked them too. Again, two
seconds after my post: replies saying Muse sucks. Kinda felt a little bullied there :(
It was after that I snapped when another guy said I had a horrible taste and how the
hell I could say that Kiss Kiss resembled some other bands I listen to without even asking
for a valid explanation.
I guess I thought that people actually cared why some listen to the music they do cause
there are millions of things that can attract me to a song and I figured you thought the same.
Also to The Octave Doctor: I love sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band >_>
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Don't pm dogg my head esplodes often so I won't reply! No one (should) make fun, we ain't had this Convo in years. Posting from ipod...
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Oh well didn't get that second half but thanks for the elaborate reply anyway :P
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they talk about muse all the time though and really its no one picking on you there are just ranging variations of taste and someone who doesn't like a band you namedrop is going to say they suck if they think they suck thats just how it is.
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See, this is why I never venture into this venture. Everyone is so angry/negative here and dismissive of other people's tastes. (I blame all that listening to heavy metal :woop:)
Anyway, yeah, Ace of Base are going to be releasing a new album this year as part of their international comeback tour. Unfortunately Linn won't be joining Ulf, Jenny, and Jonas, but I'm still excited. AoB defined the 90s for me and I still like listening to the Bridge - many great songs there.
They've released 4 remixes of some of their classic songs as a way to whet fans' appetites. I actually like their newer sound. Here's Wheel of Fortune 2009:
AND I WOULD BE EXCITED IF EIFEL 65 AND AQUA RETURNED, AND I'M NOT ASHAMED TO ADMIT IT. LONG LIVE BUBBLE GUM POP.
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fuck you dude now I am going to be angry and negative, I gave a pretty wellreasoned argument as to why we don't like what you like!
LONG LIVE SHITTY MUSIC THAT WHEN YOUR GRANDKIDS FIND THEY WILL BURN SO THEY AREN'T EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH IT! CYNDI LAUPER 4 LIFE.
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whoa whoa whoa you mean I might have to DISCUSS my music in a music forum? fuck you pal, madonna's on tour. matchbox 20 deez nuts!
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Mateui are you by any chance mormon?
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jehovah's witness
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Imogen Heap
Kate Havnevik
Ace of Base
And clearly my tastes are so different from everyone here which is why I usually never post in this forum :welp:
ace of base!? last time i heard them was actually today. on the phone on hold for koodo lol. i was actually a little bit disappointed when someone finally picked up the phone :(
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Its a forum if I want to express a feeling about a band I will do that. Don't take it personally. Everyone does it. If someone thinks something sucks they say "this sucks" I expect people to do the same to me.
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OMG WHAT ACE OF BASE IS BACK?!?!?! hfkhfrsgfkhjlj;l
I thought their lead had a falling out with POPULARITY or something?
God damn Ace of Base's greatest hits has a VIP spot in my mobile cd case.
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fuck you dude now I am going to be angry and negative, I gave a pretty wellreasoned argument as to why we don't like what you like!
LONG LIVE SHITTY MUSIC THAT WHEN YOUR GRANDKIDS FIND THEY WILL BURN SO THEY AREN'T EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH IT! CYNDI LAUPER 4 LIFE.
Sorry steel, didn't see your post before I posted.
Its a forum if I want to express a feeling about a band I will do that. Don't take it personally. Everyone does it. If someone thinks something sucks they say "this sucks" I expect people to do the same to me.
Like I said before I don't often come here so I don't know that this is a forum norm. It's good to know.
I thought their lead had a falling out with POPULARITY or something?
Linn isn't come back sadly. :(
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did anyone listen to the animal collective album yet?? i'm pretty psyched friend says it's their best yet!
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Tenhi, Appleseed Cast, and PT like DS said. I also believe Agalloch is coming out with a new cd and Ashes Against the Grain is REALLY GOOD (imo) so i'm hoping this will be good as well.
Also not a new CD but Sigur Ros is coming out with something having to do with video.
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Linn isn't come back sadly. :(
That's too bad, I thought she was the hotter/better singer of the two.
I downloaded their remix of Cruel Summer and it is awesome so I might rebuy their greatest hits (I have the "Platinum & Gold Collection" edition), and I will def. buy their new one.
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did anyone listen to the animal collective album yet?? i'm pretty psyched friend says it's their best yet!
im stupidly waiting for 12th
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ill be waiting longer. i need a record player :\
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I really really hope Stone Temple Pilots and Pearl Jam release a new album this year. There are rumours behind it... :(
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Project Pat's new album Real Recognize Real
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Time by Wintersun is what I really want to hear.
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yes! Ace of Base was frickin' awesome when I was like 4. But ummmm besides that I'm curious to hear the Dirty Little Rabbits Record that's coming out soon. They're getting some recognition and they're getting called atmospheric rock that's dark and twisted.
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so this is being trolled huh.
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New Mono in March! It was mixed and recorded in Chicago by Steve Albini ;)
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Holy shit, that version of Wheel of Fortune is TERRIBLE.
"Hey you know this song we did? Let's add some distorted voices to it and not sing it as good. ACE OF BASE 2009"
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the only song I ever heard from ace of base was I Saw The Sign. they used to play it everywhere when I was younger.
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I really like to listen to Ace of Base but they're definitely not the kind of band I'd defend as being particularly good. I know it's p. bad music quality-wise, but I really like listening to it.
That video posted here though...that's bad AND not enjoyable to listen to.
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Amerie's 4th album, if it'll ever get a release date. <3
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yes! Ace of Base was frickin' awesome when I was like 4. But ummmm besides that I'm curious to hear the Dirty Little Rabbits Record that's coming out soon. They're getting some recognition and they're getting called atmospheric rock that's dark and twisted.
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I'm surprised to hear this! I thought they had a pretty small fanbase! They are right from right over a bridge from where I live, and they have all but taken over our big radio station. I'm not a big fan, they are like Mr. Bungle with a girl singer or something, and pretty much everybody who likes them (around here anyway) are just converted fans of Slipknot.
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(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i11.photobucket.com/albums/a171/LaMoulinex/PRRMyspaceTouadcopy.webp)
We are going to the manchester one.
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lovin' the new PRR so far.
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yeah the new one i think is going to be super great though
shep he shot one of their music videos but i think thats it
Latepost!!!
But Shep is right, he shoots all the members at the end of the Cosmopolitan Bloodloss video!
And yeah, I know what you mean about Daryl... and I love 'You Think You're John Fucking Lennon' - great track!
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1. New Shpongle
2. New Shpongle (Not even sure it will come out this year)
3. New 65daysofstatic
4. Deftones - Eros (Once again, not sure it will even come out in 09')
5. New Amorphis.