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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Ryan on January 16, 2009, 01:34:31 am
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so i got the first season of 30 rock for xmas. i had heard it was WAY FUNNIER THAN THE OFFICE etc but so far it's pretty mediocre!! does it get better or what? i really like tina fey (shes so..beautiful) and this show consistently wins best comedy but idk man so far it's really mediocre. i'm about 2/3 finished with the first season so should i check out the rest or what?
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I've watched a few episodes and it's ok but yeah it's not as funny as a lot of people make it out to be
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yeah i saw one episode where Tracy was wigging out on whatever new medicine he was taking and it was just dumb as hell.
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I think part of the problem for me was that I was led to believe that it was really clever like arrested development but the few episodes I've seen were just NORMAL humor or whatever so it was kind of disappointing I guess
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youre both gay, its 10x funnier than the office hehe *awkward moment* *cute romance* *repeats for six years* hilarious
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also if you dont think its clever you are missing parts of it!!! i don't explicitly remember the first season so well but the show is pretty clever, man.
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if you hate 30 Rock you are a stupid motherfucker. it is better to love Israel than hate 30 Rock.
that being said the show establishes itself much better in season 2.
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its not a lemon party without ole Dick!
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also if you dont think its clever you are missing parts of it!!! i don't explicitly remember the first season so well but the show is pretty clever, man.
to be fair I've seen like two episodes. also I don't really care for the office at all so back off pal!!
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no joke if this was the dark knight and i was on the boat witht he crew of the office and panda was on the boat with the crew of 30 rock and we had to blow one or the ohter up i would throw the remote out the window and text panda "d0 wats rite".
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the right thing is to blow up my boat so 30 Rock can live.
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I only started watching this season. It's not lmao hilarious!!! but more smirk, smirk
youre both gay, its 10x funnier than the office hehe *awkward moment* *cute romance* *repeats for six years* hilarious
p funny you'd gay this cuz 30 rock repeats its gimmicks A LOT too!! IM HEADP *I don't have much of a point*
edit: gay was a legitimate typo
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this gimmick being? heh liz lemon's a nerd//tracy's crazy//whatever else? i cannot think of a way in which 30 rock repeats the same gimmicks to nearly the extent of the office which is literally ONE GIMMICK continued over half a dozen seasons, however good you think it is. gonna need you to substantiate the claim that 30 rock is even on the same level as the office in terms of a lack of variation in content.
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that was a lie, I've seen every 30 rock episode and loved it.
this gimmick being?
characters
heh liz lemon's a nerd//tracy's crazy//whatever else?
is this really all you picked up on
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no but i am curious why you would bring up 30 rock as being a comparable offender!
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if you hate 30 Rock you are a stupid motherfucker. it is better to love Israel than hate 30 Rock.
that being said the show establishes itself much better in season 2.
Dude, for once I actually agree with you. Too bad I keep missing episodes. :fogetsad:
I should probably buy season one on DVD but..... money.
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I hate 30 rock.
i ain't just trollin either, i just don't like it. I saw probably 4 episodes and I was like "nope not for me"
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no but i am curious why you would bring up 30 rock as being a comparable offender!
it's a 30 rock thread and you're talking about the office lol
the characters aren't even one-dimensional or anything, look at this season's christmas ep, but all of the character-based humor (big part of the show) is p much the same thing over and over again?? have you seen any of the episodes. this isn't a real criticism on my part but I'm wondering if you honestly never thought WOW THAT WAS FAMILIAR while still managing to passionately hate the Office and any plebian careless enough to insinuate 30 rock isn't aT LEAST 10x better.
I mean that's an exaggeration, that's not the WHOLE SHOW but you did the same thing with the Office (not gonna defend the office btw)
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i don't hate the office. why would you even think that? i don't even know why you took that post seriously. it is just funny that he would list the office as the END ALL show to beat when the office is kinda shitty in a way
anyway, i think saying it's the same thing over and over again is an overstatement. it's a SITUATION COMEDY i guess and the situations they get into aren't really all that similar but the circumstances of the situation and the way they progress and are handled definitely are. i'm not sure how fair a criticism this is to make though since the characters are who they are. theres liz....actin like liz again.....gettin in liz-type situations. how else can you really expect it to be? you could argue that the setup of the show is perhaps somewhat formulaic due to how rigid the characters can be and how the plots always revolve around what wacky hijinx their rigid personalities get them into, but i do not think it's that bad, especially compared to the office.
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if you dont like 30 rock you hate black people. this is a fact from gw's Black People Squad (mE and panda, im honorary member on account of the hiphop musics)
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so far tracy has been really annoying. when does he start being funny???
the only characters that i really like so far are jack and kenneth. liz is ok.
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tracy rules. get a life!!!
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I got a life... you get a life. lmao, nerd. go play WoW some more plz -_-
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dont you have a dive bar to be performing sweet home alabama in heh
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ohh shit that was a low blow
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dont you have a dive bar to be performing sweet home alabama in heh
that hurts... my band broke up a few days ago.
yeah, i haven't told anyone yet. it.. it was a painful split. :sad:
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oh, that sucks. what happened?
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bassist ditched us, drummer lives about an hour away, but even though he's in lynchburg like 5 days a week it's nearly impossible to get him to practice. he expected us to drive down to his house to practice rather than him just.. come over to my house after we get out of school. plus he listens to pretty terrible music. he's also kinddddd of socially inept (homeschooler...) so he can be pretty awkward at times! he just kind of showed a very big lack of interest/dedication, so i just said fuck it after awhile and told them i was just gonna go look elsewhere.
i'm already talking to a few guys about forming a new band but we'll see.
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bassist ditched us, drummer lives about an hour away, but even though he's in lynchburg like 5 days a week it's nearly impossible to get him to practice. he expected us to drive down to his house to practice rather than him just.. come over to my house after we get out of school. plus he listens to pretty terrible music. he's also kinddddd of socially inept (homeschooler...) so he can be pretty awkward at times! he just kind of showed a very big lack of interest/dedication, so i just said fuck it after awhile and told them i was just gonna go look elsewhere.
i'm already talking to a few guys about forming a new band but we'll see.
try to learn the theme song to Weird Science
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yeah tracy can be pretty terrible. *pouts* SERIOUSLY I DO THIS EVERY EP
it is just funny that he would list the office as the END ALL show to beat when the office is kinda shitty in a way
actually HE didn't, learn to read before you hit the spam button nooblet.
and it's not just that dude, all their jokes are the same. ol biological clock liz, her clock's turning! that's why she's so clingy and haha she likes kids too, tick tock the watch clock liz turns and shes too old to be single! of course liz and jack are SLIGHTLY MORE DEVELOPED than the rest but most of the supporting characters ahve a really basic static form of humor. lol frank said something weird and pervy! aha thats exactly something frank would do. what now tracy's clearly showing how rich he is?? and hes being childish to. best, most original comedy and absolutely NOT gimmicky like the office (awful) at all
ya like I said this isn't EARL CHOPS CRITIQUE OF 30 ROCK, it was just p funny how you took an innocent quote from someone else and got really mad about how GIMMICKY the office is when you apparently didn't pick up on anything at all similar from this show!! and I just decided to have some fun and be an asshole about it because lol really man.
that.....thast just a "boner" boy, you got it from tina fey, don't worry its normal
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earl maybe you and panda arent so different after all...
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earl is to 30 rock as headphonics is to nintendogames
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our Postswitch Challenge, he's not very good at it (ass at heart/pissed at something gw related) but I've been acting like an asshole to everyone I talk to.
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render why didnt you give me a heads up before starting. you can't troll tho you gotta mean what you say. them's the rules
ol biological clock liz, her clock's turning
hardly the only running joke with liz. also your thing about tracy ignores the part where it is pretty plainly more than just HE IS CHILDISH//HAS MONEY.
anyway the funny thing is you are just taking what i said wildly out of context. whoa a joke post in response to someone implying the office is still the show to beat...........somehow this means he is a) angry b) ignoring the faults of 30 rock despite the fact that he acknowledged them. your criticisms are just NOT GOOD. it is like you watched a few episodes and are basing what you're saying only on these. when i say the office has devolved into relatively petty plays for OOOOH ITS AWKWARD and AWWW JIM//PAM, this isn't particularly an exaggeration. there are a few other factors and jokes that come into play but this is essentially the BASIS of the show. in spite of this i still kind of like it, just not as much as i used to. your criticisms of 30 rock however imply that the point is WHOAA LIZ IS BABY CRAZY//TRACY IS CHILDISH and this is a much more severe oversimplification than what i said
also i didn't say i would switch to you, i just said i would be NORMAL and not try to post in character. i haven't been an asshole in days! find me an asshole post. 50,000 ducats to the man who finds me an asshole post since we made our little........wager. you won't find any; all my posts are normal.
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isnt it fun though man
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yo doing my first paper on sociology and i hate it already. influence of micro and macro sociology on my life. fuck you Comte. this topic is a good distraction :)
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sociology rules!!! that's early to get a paper, though. i haven't had to do shit but READ.
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i barely know anything about it at all yet and he's assigned us a paper. i've had two classes, and one was just going over the syllabus.
the paper only had to be like 300 words but it was actually kind of hard because I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING really and there's not much to say about micro and macro sociological influences on my life other than I GREW UP RELIGIOUS and I INTERACT DAILY WITH MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS, they influence my life.
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I saw more than one, if I come across it I'll let you know. also I was talking about your first post which is kinda heh
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ya that post wasn't serious at all. YOURE BOTH GAY who would say this. it's a lil joshin between pals.
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also man, 300 words what the hell. that's not a paper, that's a post about how gay anime is. just write whatever. make something up!
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write a paper about how gay anime is
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yea that part's obv not serious but the rest sounded serious. I dunno why you'd say that if you weren't being serious, unless you just were being a dick....
no but really I gotta hunt for dumb shit to TAKE ISSUE WITH its not that easy. but believe it or not the show can be pretty samey and you actually do have a Boner for liz lemons.
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i was serious about the office being highly repetitive and kind of FALLING OFF in general and finding it funny that people still rave about it, but that was just a random observation his post reminded me of since it really did seem like he was saying funnier than even.... than even the office which is kinda lol at this point in the series, and i don't care if they don't like 30 rock. whatever! i admit that the characters are somewhat one-dimensional in their appeal AAAA SHE'S NERDY//CLUELESS but the situations this results in vary a lot and then there is just the fact that even if you take issue with the plotlines, which i do not have as much of a problem with as you do it seems (they really are not all that samey imo), the dialogue is pretty strong and at times really clever. i don't have a boner for liz lemon tho idk why you'd think this; i don't think i've ever even mentioned 30 rock. its maybe my fav show on atm but that's only because i don't keep up with curb.
also it'll....it'll get easier
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help! my characters in a comedy are not rich varied and textured! oh wait its every comedy.
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i think 30 rock has a lot of clever and funny moments but it's got at least as many hackneyed jokes and tired plotlines.
i mean come on...they aren't that smart if they write a character like frank. he's not the only bad thing on the show at all but every time he says something it's like "...man, that's lame."
30 rock is medicore but every now and then there's a little spark to it.
i just watched the latest episode - it was a stinker.
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Does this compare favourably to 3rd rock from the sun? I LOVE that show
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Does this compare favourably to 3rd rock from the sun? I LOVE that show
I keep getting these two confused all the time, it's really frustrating.
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help! my characters in a comedy are not rich varied and textured! oh wait its every comedy.
no one said this dawg! well actually I think headphonics did. but I was talking about their jokes/funnies, they're pretty repetitious
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30 rock is so boring.
All sitcoms are awful, 30 rock is just one more in the bag.
I give Curb Your Enthusiasm the benefit of doubt because i havent seen it.
But yeah, nowadays comedy is sick bad. Miss the old days of
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i think curb your enthusiasm is pretty shit, too. it's like
Larry: *makes an off colour comment*
Cheryl: *rolls eyes*
cue everyone in the universe except his buddy jeff to act psychotic while larry makes things worse by trying to make them better.
i mean if the dialogue was funny then cool but usually it isn't. curb your enthusiasm just annoys me more than anything.
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who else is even close to being as dumb a character as frank? also these people get like no airtime
also curb is pretty formulaic in some ways when it comes to its plotlines but you can essentially make even a good show sound like shit that way.
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it's always sunny in philadelphia:
the gang: *does something incredibly insensitive and stupid*
everybody else: you guys are going to hell
I'm not really trying to make a point here I just wanted to join in on the fun
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also curb is pretty formulaic in some ways when it comes to its plotlines but you can essentially make even a good show sound like shit that way.
well yeah okay i see your point but i can't think of a single episode of curb your enthusiasm that hasn't totally revolved around larry doing something unthinkably dumb and everyone hating him for it, but being really unreasonable about the whole issue just so the plot works. it's just tired, how many times am i supposed to go "oh that larry!!!" and that's the joke?
who else is even close to being as dumb a character as frank? also these people get like no airtime
well the more developed the characters are the more attributes they've got you won't find that the main characters are so stupidity written, at least not consistently. tracy CAN be really funny, but he usually isn't and didn't get funny for a while. liz and jack are probably funny most of the time but even they have their crappy aspects (liz got baby fever HA HA jack making references to rich celebrities he knows HA HA). ryan was right about that "i'm on meds and bugging out!!!" stuff in that one episode - there's a lot of tracy stuff like that that just isn't funny. and the whole show is just prone to cheap shots, telegraphed or really old jokes and i'm saying it's about on the level of an episode of scrubs but with some actual wit thrown in there.
i'm not saying i hate 30 rock or anything, i still watch it, but it's not really amazing and i wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless we were bored and had nothing to do.
but i really, really hate frank. like i would punch that guy.
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what? that's not curb at all! i mean that's some of it but other times larry doesn't do ANYTHING AT ALL and people explode at him for it. the point is that he's kind of an asshole but manages to still be a sympathetic character at the same time.
as for the baby fever, it is not the best but a) working women in their thirties really do this dude!!! and b) it is not even that prominent. jack makes references to rich people he knows but the joke is never LOL I KNOW THIS GUY so much as the absurd lifestyles of the economically elite. he treats it like it is some secret club that 99.9% of people do not belong to and this is funny because it's probably completely true. also, i don't remember the WHOAA DRUGS episode aside from TAKE ME TO SPACEMAN which was pretty good. also spaceman is funny in his own right.
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what? that's not curb at all! i mean that's some of it but other times larry doesn't do ANYTHING AT ALL and people explode at him for it. the point is that he's kind of an asshole but manages to still be a sympathetic character at the same time.
i was being sarcastic with 'unthinkable' cos usually what larry does is a small thing and it snowballs cos everyone in the world is predisposed to hate larry's guts at the first sign of faux pas. but it's just like, watching curb your enthusiasm is a constant suspension of disbelief that isn't really worth it cos the jokes aren't clever.
as for the baby fever, it is not the best but a) working women in their thirties really do this dude!!!
i'm sure a bunch of them do!!! i saw them make HILARIOUS jokes about it on friends.
if tina fey can do better then why doesn't she.
and b) it is not even that prominent. jack makes references to rich people he knows but the joke is never LOL I KNOW THIS GUY so much as the absurd lifestyles of the economically elite.
yeah the knock on that was bullshit i think - i had just watched new ep of 30 rock where jack is being especially Mr. Elite Hilarious and the show even seems to be on his side which i didn't like. plus there were a few clunkers like "i nurse an old vegetative man..." "that reminds me i'll have to give lou dobbs a call" which is just crappy writing. jack's usual schtick is actually pretty good i take it back.
also, i don't remember the WHOAA DRUGS episode aside from TAKE ME TO SPACEMAN which was pretty good. also spaceman is funny in his own right.
i didn't mean to emphasize him being drugged out over other lame tracy craziness. he's always doing dumb kenan and kel shit like "grab me a tuna fish, a tube of industrial strength glue and meet me at the sock factory!!!" ha ha ha h those things are unrelated. i don't mean to get down on kenan and kel...those boys have a place in my childhood memories, but it's just crappy slapstick stuff without the funny part where somebody falls down.
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dude come on, SURVIVOR AUSTRALIA VS HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR. a lot of the jokes are really funny. beloved cunt oooooops. i think the suspense of disbelief thing is good because the majority of the characters are essentially NORMAL and then larry is like a sitcom character and this juxtaposition is the joke.
also where did i say "tina fey can do better"? i'm just saying i don't think it is a fundamentally bad thing to make a joke about. hehe babby crazy is lame most of the time but it is a joke about ACTUAL SITUATIONS so there's nothing on an intrinsic level that makes it unfunny i do not think. also yeah this past ep wasn't so hot. like aside from WHEN DO YOU THROW THE DONUTS OUT it was mediocre. this season in general has been really good though, imo.
also idk i think this is an oversimplification. tracy's character clearly isn't just some crazy guy and i don't think the joke is SLAPSTICK HILARIOUS!!! he's meant to be a parody of crazy eccentric stars who are just constantly able to have their way obviously so i think most of those jokes relate more to CELEB LIVES and how people cater to them way too much than just being stupid and pointless.
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i love 30 and curb because it takes the "good" people and ruins their lives because of their crippling social flaws.
liz wants a baby so she fusses with a midgets hair how is that not the funniest shit.
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the last time i watched 30 rock it had tracy dressed up as white woman to prove a point and liz tripping on a plane and thinking a little girl was oprah.
hilarious...
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alright if you saw jenna in blackface and did not find this hilarious then you are just unreachable
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call you back, i'm snitting next to blorpo!
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i love 30 and curb because it takes the "good" people and ruins their lives because of their crippling social flaws.
liz wants a baby so she fusses with a midgets hair how is that not the funniest shit.
i've been reading this topic trying to figure out if you guys seriously liked this and trying to figure out what was likeable about it; the only episode i've seen of 30 rock is this one with the midget i watched on hulu and i couldn't get into it. I'm convinced you guys are bullshitting now though, Gave me a run for my money!!!
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I watched the first few eps, I like it
fuck haters
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help! my characters in a comedy are not rich varied and textured! oh wait its every comedy.
beat me to it :(
really i bet almost everyone on this website has a thing for arrested development (deservingly so) and that is probably the easiest show to fucking make a charcitature (jesus spelling lolp) of OF ALL
WHAT A GOOD POST
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i read the rest of the topic and now my post feels irellivent
h8 that
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yeah i saw one episode where Tracy was wigging out on whatever new medicine he was taking and it was just dumb as hell.
This ep stank. 5 thumbs down
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This ep stank. 5 thumbs down
yeah i watched this the other night...oh brother!!!
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i just started watching 30 rock because of this thread.
it is v. good and better than the office!!!
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LOL SITCOM WARS
Of course comedy's wont seem as funny when you over examine and dissect them.
What kills me is everyone bashing and comparing somewhat decent comedies while "Two and a Half Men" goes on unprotested..it makes me sick