It's time. GW6 is almost done. I've seen a working version. Not the fanfare reveal maybe but it's not 100% yet so who knows panda might suffer a sudden heart attack and back to square 1, but it's coming! And we need some active staffers.
I am saying without exaggeration that while this isn't going to be the last call for staff probably, it is easily the most important. We need to open the new site GOOD. We are the content delivery system.
THE PHONES RINGING...ITS YOUR NATION OF GW...WILL YOU ACCEPT THE CHARGES?
I wish I could help with the staff part
I do love to help. I did games for what, six or seven months, and it was pretty fun, but I bet any senior staffer left right now wants to get their paws on that position.
I'm always available to help with whatever you need help with on the site should you need someone to fill a position.
If you need a staff position or something filled, I wouldn't mind doing it.
If you need a mod or a staff member or someone to help you out i can, i was a former staff member at Golden Falcon
As for staffing, Rowain offered me a position about a month or two back, sent you a PM about it.
Wait what I'd like to contribute to a GW collection of RPG midis or whatever. If someone wants to use my compositions in games I'm fine with that. So yeah, that'd rock pretty cool.
I am willing to help GW however I can!!
is there any way you could make a list of exactly what sort of staffers you need, and what you need them to do? I'm interested in a position (who isn't though) but I'm not sure what would be needed the most, and what I'd be most useful for.
If you need me for staff and SHIT, I used to write for DOP (lol) and I need to write more anyway!
I'd be happy to get into writing articles again, since it's been a while.
I haven't written any tutorials since October 2004 so this is going to mean BIG CHANGES
Just throwing this out there, but I can still write articles.
notice how i ain't in that list.....know why?
i just. don't. give a. fuck.
no one in that list even applied btw.like i even need to apply. sheesh.
Wait what I'd like to contribute to a GW collection of RPG midis or whatever. If someone wants to use my compositions in games I'm fine with that. So yeah, that'd rock pretty cool.Despite this horrible thread I'm sure lars is still willing to send his midis to our resources section (RMN)
Yeah topic is about individual callout and not a hilarious fact that almost everybody here promised to help out at some point and then fucked off forever!so you think that makes this a good topic instead of one of the worst ones ever
well I would argue that the vast majority of the people up there that offered to volunteer did it with the intention of writing general articles about music or THINGS and there's no shortage of that on the site
Haha ok sure thing man, yeah wasn't that from like more than a year ago back when I would have had the time or interest in doing that. Thanks for the accusation mate!!uhhh except people still continue to do this all the time and I would rather have people say NO I am too lazy/busy/apathetic to help than to take part in all these feedback topics like they give a damn and in general petition for GW REFORM and end up offering nothing in the way of actual help beyond empty promises to write. heh GW6.... lets do this guys.... we can fix GW. I for one am willing to help in any way I can *disappears into the ether when help is actually needed*. people do this constantly and it is really, really annoying.
ATTENTION SLACKERS: GET OFF OF MY GW.
So who are the current staffers anyway? And how much are you planning to contribute in the coming weeks?
Can I change your name back?Yeah, I was thinking about that. Actually just let me think of something different.
hey its a climbtree post thats not serious. thanks man *rubs face with your post* ahhh how refreshing
Also Carius, editors still need to write articles! You're not just a manager because this would be a useless position, it is like being HEAD STAFF but still staff nonetheless so content generation is still part of your job. You still write articles yourself as an editor and all of our editors minus Sarevok have while they were in the position, and he was just kind of a lazy shit all around, so I dunno where you got that idea!
Also Carius, editors still need to write articles! You're not just a manager because this would be a useless position, it is like being HEAD STAFF but still staff nonetheless so content generation is still part of your job. You still write articles yourself as an editor and all of our editors minus Sarevok have while they were in the position, and he was just kind of a lazy shit all around, so I dunno where you got that idea!
What is the current staff even covering btw? Or does everyone just post randomly whenever?Don't get this question.
I'm not in DEBATE MODE
hey! the joke wasn't very funny to begin with! go away man.
I'm sure a lot of people are in the same situation as me: we want to help out but have school/work and other shit that prevents us from being reliable permanent staff. I mean, it is pretty easy to write an article once every few weeks in your spare time but once you're under the "journalistic" pressure to meet deadlines and write regularly it becomes a lot more difficult. But you guys aren't idiots so you already know that.
chef your shit games articles are actually very good! : )
okay so I have said a couple of times that I'd like to write some football articles but firstly I don't know how much readership there'd actually be and secondly I wouldn't know how to apply to be an article writer!
nah but for reelz tho it would be cool if someone would do an article promoting/reviewing recent gwer released albums.I've done two of these in the last 6 months. whoops
I was also thinking about writing articles about shipping and stuff but I'm probably going to wait until I get another job at sea and then I'll write a few articles about where I went and shit.
so the site we have now is.. fake?its the blog with a new skin
tutorial: http://www.gamingw.net/item.php?id=74598how about a site that at least equals what the old site was, or equals what every other game making website offers.
review: http://www.gamingw.net/item.php?id=77362
annnnd almost all reviews come with game links. not sure what you want?
I've done two of these in the last 6 months. whoops
maybe you missed the part where they said this is not the final form of the site and that it's a continuous work in progress? the only reason it was released in such a simplified form is so that we'd actually have SOMETHING out there.there was something there - the blog. that was a fine intermediate form. it served its purpose. releasing this and claiming it to be the new site is basically an insult because it isn't a new site. it's the blog with a facelift.
also maybe you missed the part where nearly 5 years of development of a fancy GW5-like site with all those stupid features you want went by and there was nothing to show for it and there was no chance of it ever getting completed and the only hope of having a site was to have the simplified one first?
it's easy to criticize the site now for not offering chrono trigger chipsets and day/night rm2k tutorials like gw had before but you have to realize that all the coders that offered to help make this stuff had all fucked off and gz (with his little to no web development experience) had to do basically everything by himself.
uh because it's pretty much been made clear that gamingw isn't trying to be every other game making site ever?oh right gaming world is trying to be That Site That Offers A Few Articles But Nothing Else And Isn't Really That Great great plan guys keep up the good work
I'm sorry but are you just plain retarded? Go to rmxp.org and then tell me that the indie game scene is dead.
i agree with jorge, tbh.
it would be nice to move away from gamemaking in general but gw really has no other specific focus.
we've had this discussion a thousand times and I don't see the point. gw can't abandon indie gamemaking because a lot of us here are still into it (even if we've moved on from rpgmaker and the whole g&d crowd) and because we need it as a draw to bring in new people. nobody is gonna find the site and then sign up just because someone wrote an article about college or facebook. that shit is there so that the mainsite doesn't bore us all to death like it did in the past when all it had were chrono trigger rips and badly written rpg articles.
we've had this discussion a thousand times and I don't see the point. gw can't abandon indie gamemaking because a lot of us here are still into it (even if we've moved on from rpgmaker and the whole g&d crowd) and because we need it as a draw to bring in new people. nobody is gonna find the site and then sign up just because someone wrote an article about college or facebook. that shit is there so that the mainsite doesn't bore us all to death like it did in the past when all it had were chrono trigger rips and badly written rpg articles.
gw is not dying
death can only occur within a flawed conception of life.
gw is in good health
attracting members can suceed by why try for users of rpg maker e.t.c when they are now in the minority the message board has evolved a mainsite should reflect this
hey alex
hey man whats up
well i've got this cool forum you should check out.
whats it called
gaming world
you're not invited to my wedding anymore.
there was something there - the blog. that was a fine intermediate form. it served its purpose. releasing this and claiming it to be the new site is basically an insult because it isn't a new site. it's the blog with a facelift.large parts of a site are navigation, services, and content. the new site provides better navigation and services (individual reviews, improved search, article submission) than the last site. it also has better content because we actually have quality control this time around instead of just carrying any article. the only features we are missing from the original GW6 site plan are devlogs and a resource database (which at the moment is deliberately not integrated until we find out what to do with it) as far as i remember. given this i don't really understand how you can say it's the blog with a facelift.
oh right gaming world is trying to be That Site That Offers A Few Articles But Nothing Else And Isn't Really That Great great plan guys keep up the good workthis has to do with content which we are trying to solve in this very topic. good job being a douche bag about it though.
the quality of the GENERAL writing we have is not good enough
ya got me
welp JORGE LUIS BORGES A i am glad you have managed to somehow conclude no one in the community has any interest in game making or game development on any level whatsoever at this point. thanks i mean i had observed otherwise but clearly your appraisal that GAME DEV IS DEAD AT GW must be valid considering youve backed it up with so many oh wait hehehe
You're wrong I'm gonna make a game soon it's gonna own
if there is no problem with support for game making why exactly was this topic authorised?nobody's writing about anything; this logic applies to your idea as well.
also who authorizes my topics! i just SAY SHIT. that is all i do. i would never listen to me if i wasnt me and thus forced to.
i don't know. there are a lot of people here who are actually very interested in making games, even if they don't do it. like there are a lot of people with peripheral game making talents that don't really utilize them. there are a million composers and artists and writers, it's just that they don't work on games, but they're definitely interested in making them. i don't think we'd be here to begin with if we didn't have at least some interest in making games.
i'd also like to point silver4donuts submitted an article and it's good. if he can do it, anyone can.
also dom or whatever is pretty dumb becuase making a game maker site is dumb nowyo i am totally aware that making a game maker site is dumb but unfortunately it is what gw is and it will never change. not least because the admins just dont want it to! everyone is clinging on to what gw used to be in the golden age of rpg making.
members define a community
what do they claim to be able to contribute to be able to achieve a true vision of 'gaming world 6'
examples- those movie articles, shit game topic, interviews
bad examples- new chronotrigger map
more examples- music releases, literature, art showcase what members are really doing and achieving in this miracle world we call 'cyberspace'
http://gamingw.net/item.php?id=77423if this is the quality of article you guys are looking for then im sorry the site is completely doomed
Silver4Donuts just became cooler than half of you kiddies in this place.
its great how this topic started out with some indignity and some people being like "maybe i can help" and a few more discovering the article submission page but then went exactly how panda said it would (more derails about GW IS DOMMED...)dude wrong
people shouldn't even make websites any more apparently. everything is already covered. more great posting from dom.quit putting words into my mouth.
you and a few others here who haven't verbally expressed it seem to think we can just go from NO SITE FOR 5 YEARS to GREAT SITE all of a sudden. you cannot do something like that without a transition period.please read my posts. specifically the parts where i say the old blog was fine as a transitionary period
i like how you actually take the time to post your thoughts on the site when me and panda already had discussions like this before the site was even made.and this ladies and gentlemen is exactly what is wrong with the administration
if we held strict quality standards right now, we would have only a handful of articles on the site and never any new content. this isn't feasible at all and makes no sense.you can't build a house without a good foundation. if you want quality content, enforce it from the beginning. get a backlog of articles to post before you launch the site so that you can keep a steady stream while you're still trying to gain pace. the only thing you are doing by publishing substandard articles is DRIVING AWAY visitors. nobody wants to stay on a site that has shit content. and that shit content will stick in their minds, which means it'll be a cold day in hell before they ever come back.
you can discuss whatever you want about the site direction or it's PROBLEMS but it's a waste of time.it's only a wasteo ftime because WE ALREADY MADE UP OUR MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man I thought about it for a few minutes and I realized my biggest hangup over writing articles is that I think that I'll write something that no one would really give a shit about. Like, I've thought about doing something like...just going to my local flea market or vendors mall and just take pictures of the people and shops there, because there will be stalls where someone is selling like...an INDIVIDUAL, TEN YEAR OLD TAMPON and other things no one could really justify selling, and the write an article about my trip. But would anyone read this? Every time I come up with an idea I guess I just have no idea if it would work out or not and it kind of ends my enthusiasm.noone who likes good writing would read that, no
"don't post your thoughts on anything we do because WE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT. we do what we like. we don't give a shit what the members think because we already decided what we're going to do"
quit putting words into my mouth.except thats what you said pretty much exactly
but obviously only when the member disagrees with what you apparently spent months discussing. just the two of you. i'm sure you got a LOAD of viewpoints from those discussions with a closed set of people. oh wait no you didn't...
please read my posts. specifically the parts where i say the old blog was fine as a transitionary periodthe old blog was far from fine. virtually no one went to it. do you know why? it was vastly inferior to the forum. the tagging system made no sense, it was hard to browse, and you couldn't see the discussion on the main page. you're an idiot for thinking this because it was made solely just to to show members HEY WE'RE DOING SHIT. you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
and this ladies and gentlemen is exactly what is wrong with the administrationthe member discussion happened NUMEROUS TIMES. in every GW6 topic we talked about the future of GW. in every staff topic we talked about the future of GW. you're covering old ground because you're either an idiot or were absent when this used to happen on a monthly basis. have you ever thought that we listen to members, but just not shitty members like you? GW did fuck all for 5 years, and you attribute the current site problems to everything BUT that.
"don't post your thoughts on anything we do because WE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT. we do what we like. we don't give a shit what the members think because we already decided what we're going to do"
but obviously only when the member disagrees with what you apparently spent months discussing. just the two of you. i'm sure you got a LOAD of viewpoints from those discussions with a closed set of people. oh wait no you didn't...
you can't build a house without a good foundation. if you want quality content, enforce it from the beginning. get a backlog of articles to post before you launch the site so that you can keep a steady stream while you're still trying to gain pace. the only thing you are doing by publishing substandard articles is DRIVING AWAY visitors. nobody wants to stay on a site that has shit content. and that shit content will stick in their minds, which means it'll be a cold day in hell before they ever come back.this is why GW6 never came out. the exact same mindset. just wait guys, when GW6 comes out it's going to be the BEST! we're still working on it guys, just getting some new features in! GW6 never came out because it was a pipedream. if it did come out in any form, it would not impress someone like you, or even the average GW at the time because of how it was hyped up. the site is only the face of the community. you are also astronomically dumb for thinking the site can just launch and BE GREAT on day one. almost every mega popular site on the internet started off BAD or NOT IDEAL. don't tell me this good foundation crap, it's a shitty analogy that has nothing to do with what the current problem is (hint: it's the fact we can't get people to do ANYTHING AT ALL).
the old blog was far from fine. virtually no one went to it. do you know why? it was vastly inferior to the forum. the tagging system made no sense, it was hard to browse, and you couldn't see the discussion on the main page. you're an idiot for thinking this because it was made solely just to to show members HEY WE'RE DOING SHIT. you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.then why did you release a site that IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING
this is the point you absolutely destroyed your credibility btw. like damn. you really have no idea what you are talking about. so many topics. so many! jesus dom.you really think the administration takes suggestions from anyone other than all the spineless yes men on this site? you are deluded.
haha ok never mind i see now that rushing a site out is now more important than quality, my bad, enjoy your dead site see ya. you're all fucking retarded btw
then why did you release a site that IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING
you can rag on me for being OVERLY AGGRESSIVE about what i say but when you do it you all seem to completely forget that i am making points that are valid, for example you immediately dismiss the possibility of creating a backlog of quality articles WITHOUT EVEN SAYING WHY
it's not the exact same thing. the old "blog" didn't have a submission section, it wasn't organized, it looked ugly, it didn't allow a search by topic only by tags, it didn't allow a search by members, how are you saying it's the exact same thing what's going on in your world dom?in my world these are really simple features that do not count. because that's what they are. heh... search. check it out guys. you can SEARCH!! thats right.. i wrote three lines of code.. gw is ready guys. gw. is. ready. you're stupid if you think these are worthy of being called a NEW SITE
we have suggested creating a backlog of articles. steel mentioned it in december. the actual staff who write articles just said "whatever." i said "whatever" because i planned on quitting staff but then gw6 popped up so suddenly i hopped on the bandwagon again. you can fault that on the staff because it was our intention to create a backlog but, most importantly, it was our intention to get a working site out the window to build upon and instead of holding back holding back holding back are we gonna release guys nope just holding back. ideally we wanted an article a day and with 10 something staff members, one article a week was feasible but with volunteers you can expect volunteer quality of work.so what we have is basically "yeah we were GOING to be smart but then we decided being stupid was way more important sorry guys thats our excuse. deal with it. thats the way it is" followed by the expectation of fawning over your marvellous work
World's hatin on dom always hatin on dom. You're right man, obviously your great ideas are being ignored just because they are yours. Couldn't possibly be you NOT LISTENING. I pretty much disagree with everything you ever say. Can someone just ban him????im sure headphonics would love to because i don't agree with everything he says (and therefore am not helping him cement his status as The Most Important Guy On Gaming World which is the only thing he cares about)
in my world these are really simple features that do not count. because that's what they are. heh... search. check it out guys. you can SEARCH!! thats right.. i wrote three lines of code.. gw is ready guys. gw. is. ready. you're stupid if you think these are worthy of being called a NEW SITE
ps the new site is also ugly and disorganised
so what we have is basically "yeah we were GOING to be smart but then we decided being stupid was way more important sorry guys thats our excuse. deal with it. thats the way it is" followed by the expectation of fawning over your marvellous work
i want 10 pages of family guy gifs to put in my signature
i'd be willing to do stuff.
i mean, i am a first year games design student with TOO MUCH SPARE TIME.
im sure headphonics would love to because i don't agree with everything he says (and therefore am not helping him cement his status as The Most Important Guy On Gaming World which is the only thing he cares about)where do you even get this stuff
haha ok never mind i see now that rushing a site out is now more important than quality, my bad, enjoy your dead site see ya. you're all fucking retarded btw
ahahaha pretend it's not there buddy HEY PRESTO but the rest of us are overjoyed with having something over nothing because even if some features did take three lines of code we've been without those three lines for a really long timedo you read anything
when you're starving you eat whatever you can you don't wait for kobe beef because while you're waiting you'll die
Yo dawg this would be much better with some pictures! I have a pretty short attention span and require visual stimulation in between my reading of long text go to google and do this now.
where do you even get this stuffyou exist only to "be an admin". that is all you do.
oh yeah I forgot aboutthatha ha ha ha well met!!
I missed the first article though but I remember the 2nd one.
people shouldn't even make websites any more apparently. everything is already covered. more great posting from dom.hey frien
you and a few others here who haven't verbally expressed it seem to think we can just go from NO SITE FOR 5 YEARS to GREAT SITE all of a sudden. you cannot do something like that without a transition period. i like how you actually take the time to post your thoughts on the site when me and panda already had discussions like this before the site was even made. do you think we never thought about the problems of the site before making it? we knew we had no staff. we knew very few community people would ever chip in. right now though, these are the circumstances. for you to even suggest the kind of content and site we have now is going to be the exact same down the line is completely ridiculous. i don't even know why you bother to post that given these facts. this is the GW starting from square one, and it'll take time before we get a site the community can be proud of. if we held strict quality standards right now, we would have only a handful of articles on the site and never any new content. this isn't feasible at all and makes no sense.
this topic was supposed to get the general interest from community members in regards to staff and article submission. once again it turns into a discussion about something unrelated instead of people actually deciding to do something about the problem. me and panda already pointed out there are more NON-GAME articles than GAME articles. the SHIFT of gaming world is going to be whatever the community decides. the only problem is that GW has no chance of living as a general site with the kind of userbase we have. additionally the common interest we all share is GAMES, even if some don't want to make them, and this is what we can do best (if ANYTHING).
i explained in my first post that because we slid down like this, we made it that much harder for ourselves now. we won't go places without effort. right now, there's only a handful of staff and panda who actually give more than an ounce of effort for the site. everything good takes effort to make. do you think that you can just throw it on a few guys and expect the site to succeed?
you can discuss whatever you want about the site direction or it's PROBLEMS but it's a waste of time. the only problem is effort, not any of the garbage you make up. just like in the 50 GW6 topics we had before the site, people seemed to enjoy talking a lot more than actually doing work themselves.
you really think the administration takes suggestions from anyone other than all the spineless yes men on this site? you are deluded.idk but when I helped out with GW6 back in 2007 or whatever me and Steel managed to completely turn the admins around when they were dead set on making GW5 2, so that should account for something I think. Sometimes I don't think we do anything but criticize shit here, and GW admins are despite that usually keen on improving things if they can.
Also yeah one of the things I've always been trying to pitch is the dismissal of lackluster articles like the ones we currently have because I think the community would do better with submissions that are actually funny or worth reading, but I don't really think it is going to hurt the site if we do not enforce professional quality control. At worst we'll still just be an amateur community.
how the fuck can you say this and still think you have ANY right to be a writer on gaming world. how the fuck can you live with yourself for saying this. are you 5 years old? you need pictures to read? goddamnit man i never read any of your articles before because you're a terrible writer and this just proves it
the site contains absolutely NOTHING of value to anyone. i look through the list of articles and see nothing that i would think "that sounds interesting", or if i do, i read the first couple of sentences and realise that its written so horribly that i just dont want to read any more.
We have a comment system and thumbs up/down for a reason. If you don't like an article, let it be known.For every good article written there are like 20 bad ones. User rating won't really change that.
Haha jesus christ.
For every good article written there are like 20 bad ones. User rating won't really change that.
It's a simple statement. If you contribute nothing, you're worthless.
marcus why all the hate man
isn't this topic to win over doubters not bold text them into the next life
I don't know what you are talking about or if you are talking to me or dom.
We have a comment system and thumbs up/down for a reason. If you don't like an article, let it be known.as drule said this is not quality control
We have a comment system. If you don't like something comment on it.
Why are you so useless, Dom? Why do you complain so much without stepping a foot to do anything about it? You never mentioned anything about my writing before this topic.i never read anything you wrote before this topic.
If you're so adverse to me, then say it to my face. Use examples from my writing. Cite sources. Obviously you contain a wealth of knowledge that I don't possess, so educate me, Dom. Do something instead of bitch about it.http://gamingw.net/item.php?id=77464
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO READ ON GAMINGWinteresting articles. well written articles. i will read almost anything that fits this criteria. i will not read things that do not fit. my arguments about the quality of writing are not about what i WANT to read, but what i DONT. you might enjoy reading absolute tripe but guess what.. noone else does. and id wager that the only reason you seem to enjoy it is because its from gaming world and you feel obliged.
Prove to me you aren't a worthless fucking poster and exist specifically to suck up space and troll people.prove to me you're anything but white noise
Why are you so fucking useless, as a critic, member, and poster Dom?laugh
Can you answer this question, Dom? Can you justify whey you're even here?
My god, everyone just ignore Dom. It's clear he doesn't care and wants nothing more to incite argument without backing himself up. You complain that we are doing things wrong and the staff is useless yet you, as a member, who has the largest input to how the site works because we CATER to you, don't even offer to supply that input. Even fucking Steel gives a reason on why he calls you out.
Dom, you are the worst kind of person. A leach. A parasite. How can you even refute this?
another thing you're wrong about, we don't ban people for disagreeing.i did not mean to imply this. what i meant was i know pretty much for a fact that headphonics would just love to ban me because of how much i disagree with.
i'd really like to hear about the spineless YES MENeveryone who is clamoring to claim that this is the triumphant return of gw. anyone who says the articles are anything but terrible.
maybe you should just go back to rpg2knet with your splash page and invisionfree board with 10 members?? i'm sure you're less dead of a site than gw.ya we are currently more dead than gw. but guess what... the new rpg2knet site is actually having effort put into it before release and isnt just a blog pretending to be a real site
I don't think we are talking about the same thing and I really don't feel like explaining some idea I was trying to push two years ago.
It's a simple statement. If you contribute nothing, you're worthless.
interesting articles. well written articles. i will read almost anything that fits this criteria. i will not read things that do not fit. my arguments about the quality of writing are not about what i WANT to read, but what i DONT. you might enjoy reading absolute tripe but guess what.. noone else does. and id wager that the only reason you seem to enjoy it is because its from gaming world and you feel obliged.
this is a travesty. this is not an article. this is a slideshow. you lack the ability to write sentences longer than 5 words. your writing reads like that of a 12 year old. you are a bad writer. i've read livejournal posts better than this.
as drule said this is not quality control
This is exactly what I'm talking about you quoted me on it.No I laughed because you were going nuts over this discussion. I didn't say anything about user ratings either. What I did say was that I was trying to push for GW6 to become more professional back in 2007, and agreed with dom about the general article quality.
1. You laughed at me for suggesting that a user rating system could change anything.
everyone who is clamoring to claim that this is the triumphant return of gw. anyone who says the articles are anything but terrible.this is false again. this is not the definition of a YES MAN. you also seem to be confusing enthusiasm with GW IS GODS GIFT TO MANKIND. people are happy to see that the site is actually moving as opposed to nothing at all. the article quality is something we are aware about, and i address this later. the simple answer is you need to start somewhere. this is where we have to start. you also fail to realise that GW is very much an isolated community at the moment. the articles reflect that, by being more relevant to GW members than anyone else. we're working on changing this but it takes time.
ya we are currently more dead than gw. but guess what... the new rpg2knet site is actually having effort put into it before release and isnt just a blog pretending to be a real siteyou clearly don't understand the point made about the SPLASH PAGE. when GW lost it's steam the main page was left as is for a year. after that it was replaced with FOGET saying "coming soon!!!" for 3 years. then came the community blog which was hasitly put it to prove to members STUFF IS HAPPENING (it wasn't at the time). you seem to be hung up on how a site should be presented. you're of the GW6 mindset of where you spend 5 years making a site (that won't come out) then supposedly releasing the greatest thing since sliced bread. the new GW site was released to show the base functionality of the site. this was:
tigsource.com is nothing but a blog with a games database (basically what the current GW site offers) and they manage to be one of the biggest and most successful indie game sites out there despite having such a fairly simple site. so basically this "fancy GW6 with more features" that you keep harping about isn't even necessary to have a successful site.
No I laughed because you were going nuts over this discussion. I didn't say anything about user ratings either. What I did say was that I was trying to push for GW6 to become more professional back in 2007, and agreed with dom about the general article quality.
For every good article written there are like 20 bad ones. User rating won't really change that.
interesting articles. well written articles. i will read almost anything that fits this criteria. i will not read things that do not fit. my arguments about the quality of writing are not about what i WANT to read, but what i DONT. you might enjoy reading absolute tripe but guess what.. noone else does. and id wager that the only reason you seem to enjoy it is because its from gaming world and you feel obliged.
i did not mean to imply this. what i meant was i know pretty much for a fact that headphonics would just love to ban me because of how much i disagree with
everyone who is clamoring to claim that this is the triumphant return of gw. anyone who says the articles are anything but terrible.Having faith in the idea that we can build GW up from this point and turn it into an active community with constructive content doesn't mean that we're all just tools riding on the coattails of the administration. Everyone's collectively trying to do their small part to make this thing the best it can be, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I think you have the wrong idea about how this community works right now, Dom. All of the staffers who contribute articles to the mainpage are part of the community. Anything you see on the mainpage is more or less a reflection of the current state of the forums. We have a select few individuals who are willing to take time out of their lives to contribute to this project and a lot more who would rather spend six hours debating president Obama's blackness in exact degrees than put together some decent content for the site. This is far from an ideal situation as far as content generation goes, but we're doing the best we can with what we have. You're welcome to criticize, but make sure you're looking at things for what they are before blatantly disrespecting the people who are at least DOING SOMETHING.do you go to a restaurant and tip the chef when he serves you shit on a plate? "doing the best we can" is not an excuse.
do you go to a restaurant and tip the chef when he serves you shit on a plate? "doing the best we can" is not an excuse.
"doing the best we can" is not an excuse.Actually it is when you're doing it for free :welp: if it's not enough for Dom then just leave.