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General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: Brent Murray on January 29, 2009, 10:24:39 am
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I remember back in 2004 when rpg2knet disappeared from my sights I had no place to go...and thus looked for another home during those years, and I found it in gamingworld. At the time it was at the peak of it's presance! The site was clean, simple and informated full of articles, games & resources. The staff were friendly...and thus peace went forth throughout the many years. Although I wasn't practically a member around here till around 2007, I still enjoyed being here and chatting with everyone here. But something in the last couple of weeks has changed my outlook on this once famous place.
The site, no Gaming World, that I knew has been dead for many years, and turning a blindeye to all this...I was to blind to see the changes and just accpet this place for what it was. But...now I see the light, and it's clear to me...it's time to leave this place and move on.
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I used to think change was something that was hard and seemed unnatural to me. But I look at last year and see the improvements in making changes could do. I changed my style in game making and look where I am now! I'm almost done a project, after many years of hardship and headaches. I also left a old board that if it wasn't for them, I would never know what rm2k3 was. It was tough...but in the end it just had to be done. I was tired of that place, and tired of failure.
What has really helped me through these tough times is the love between one and another on this forum, and the strength inside my ownself. Knowing that if you just push through...you will achieve something better.
But...today I just reached my very limit with this place. And after much thinking and thought...I've decided after a long 5 years staying here on GW. To move on and become a member with rival RMN. It was a hard choice, as I cannot stay on two forums at a time. So it had to be one or another. And I think I made the best choice.
Here are my reasons:
1.) The Staff Members
Although not everyone here I can blame, there are some who I do. Some of the people here are just terrible, they are just downright mean and seems like they have nothing better to do but attack people for sometimes no reason at all! The mods are even WORSE! You make one mistake and they are buzzing on you like flies on butter! And what worse is that if you managed to get banned, you have to wait like a week, month or 3 months to come back! Over stupid matters sometimes! It's just terrible, the mods have really destoryed this once fine place. Like I said...some people are okay with me, but this is just getting too radicious! Whatever happened to having fun and silly!?
2.) The Site Layout
Now don't get me wrong, I do like the new layout! But I feel it's just a quick overhall of the blog page we had a couple of months ago, it's almost like that combined with Bart's gamecake.net! I look at RMN and the way they setup things are just great! It's so easy and clean! And their forum is also down to just a couple of simple threads, whereas we have like...double the size. Just clumsy and messy. And!!! To make the games list you need to have a near PERFECT GAME!!! I like sometimes playing something on RMN that isn't perfect! Why do we have like only 12 games on there!?
3.) The Bannings!
I have been banned more times then I can count! Some of them looking back are for good reasons, but lately...they just seem just...retarded. You guys have basically ruined me posting in most of the topics by slapping on warning and say: DON'T POST IN THE SCREENSHOT TOPIC AGAIN!!! DON'T USE THAT FONT!!! BLAH BLAH BLAH! It's utterly nonsense. While RMN may have a pocliecy on what you can do or post. They have NEVER banned me or warned me for anything! And I post the same level I do here then I do there.
4.) No Creativity
RMN has a lot of things going on that I look here and go like...huh!? Podcasts, Special Events, Game Discussions! The party is where it's at! Here? Well...if you do try and think outside the bloomin box they will just lock your topic or ban you. I've done plently of fun things that would of been accepted at RMN such as the Indie Cup.
5.) Too Much Bashing
It just seems like I'm getting bashed, stepped on, rediculed. More here then anybody else. I'm just so tired of it!
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I think a lot of things esclated today that made me make this post. The canucks losing 7 games in a row, the weight gain curse, still trying to finish Monopolo, bashing, more bashing. Just a lot of things...I look at RMN as a good escape and something that I think is for the best. There, they wanna talk making games! They wanna have fun! They just wanna play games and be what the old GW of 04 used to be about! Here. I just see a shambled site where only the nerd and angry hang out. Just not cool.
But S4D!? What about Monopolo!? Are you still going to make a thread here? Why can't you hang out on both forums?
I really only wanna make one thread and keep it on one site. If I still was on GW I would only really release it for GW and nobody else. It just...that I like keeping things in singles. No I won't post a thread here, only on my new home RMN now. Your welcome to swing by and play it when it's released. And no I can't hang out on both forums, it's one or the other. It's just too much work for me to hang out on mutliple places. I like to keep things small and simple.
Besides, GW will have Barkley, RMN will have Monopolo! It's a perfect match! :laugh:
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My final comments are to thank everyone here that made the last 5 years so great! This site was pretty much my safe haven from the earlier years and defined me on who I am today. I'm proud to be among such interesting people thoughout the many years here at GW. But now...it's time to move on, like I have with my own games...it's time for a fresh start! A new chapter in life! I bid you goodbye ladies and gentlemen! I will hopefully see some of you on RMN with me, but for the rest...keep on gaming! :fogetsmile:
I'm going to miss you GZ, Pip, S-Luv! :fogetcry: You guys were the best!
~ S4D
Turning in his GW badge after 5 years of service
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I think not, S4D! Your game may be epic but Charles Barkley packed a lot of good punches (more powerful than any Rider Kick). Godspeed to you, still you're a part of FUSE (First Ultimaga Silver Enterprise).
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Sorry to hear you go dude... I agree though, the levels of bashing are pretty through the roof and I also feel pretty similar to you, in that respect.
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yeah its been good i guess
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Smell ya later
hope monopolo goes well....
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nobody is ever going to play your monopoly game
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What I dont understand is how guys like dietcoke never get warned but people such as I and S4D get warned every 5 seconds over retarded ass shit. Im sad that youre leaving S4D, I liked to rip on you, but it was all in good fun, I actually respect you as a fellow rpgmaker user and hope to see you around.
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You did this right when you had the chance the make a devlog to plug in... It's a shame really. I understand though, this was getting out of hand sometimes, and like nackster said some people who do the same thing that you get warned over don't get warned sometimes, it really seems like most of the stuff goes your way.
But whatever, I'm not gonna question the mods or anything, I suppose they know what they're doing. I'll dl monopolo if i remember.
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What I dont understand is how guys like dietcoke never get warned but people such as I and S4D get warned every 5 seconds over retarded ass shit. Im sad that youre leaving S4D, I liked to rip on you, but it was all in good fun, I actually respect you as a fellow rpgmaker user and hope to see you around.
:welp: (http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/61648/warn.jpg)
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nobody is ever going to play your monopoly game
you're a retard
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you're a retard
lol no u are
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Good luck over at RMN, hope it works out better for you than Gaming World.
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DON'T GO MAN. Seriously.
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DietCoke's true, nobody will play monopolo.
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You never quite leave trust me, I've tried to leave a number of times but GW still keeps on pulling me back in.
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DietCoke's true, nobody will play monopolo.
you're an ass
& go learn some proper grammar dyslexic fuck
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this topic is so stupid. i am aware that s4d is a kind of known doofus around here, but i don't think i've really seen many posts by him.
basically, i don't care about any of this. it's dumb and i could make an extremely hilarious "another one lost in the great GW-RMN cold war..." post but i dunno the post is just full of hilarious ridiculous crap as it is. here some of my highlights:
What has really helped me through these tough times is the love between one and another on this forum, and the strength inside my ownself. Knowing that if you just push through...you will achieve something better.
I've decided after a long 5 years staying here on GW. To move on and become a member with rival RMN. It was a hard choice, as I cannot stay on two forums at a time. So it had to be one or another. And I think I made the best choice.
The mods are even WORSE! You make one mistake and they are buzzing on you like flies on butter!
Here? Well...if you do try and think outside the bloomin box they will just lock your topic or ban you. I've done plently of fun things that would of been accepted at RMN such as the Indie Cup.
RMN RMN RMN RMN
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it's just...flippin...nobody who you hate actually cares about any of this. i kind of wish guys like you would stay around cos i think you are interesting to watch sometimes but it's hard to laugh at the same joke over and over. maybe i'm being mean but i've written this post now and i guess i will post it.
i mean does anyone care if guys like this leave? i keep coming on here now cos i've got some friends i like to talk to and see what they are up to, and this kind of topic is just what will happen as long as there's a site called gamingworld with game development forums. i don't think the idea of gw having high standards or whatever is bad, cos we could have a very active community of just idiots or a kind of grumbly one with a few smarty pants mixed in and i'd rather go to the second one. this is obvious to anyone who can see the situation here. bragh. i think this will be the only post i make about this cos it all seems very pointless.
sooooo...okay doke, asta la vista S4D good luck with your dreams.
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GW is like O[size]2[/size], you'll be back.
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But who'll write articles now?
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S4D is on to something though. Gamingw is the pits! It's really terrible and I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I don't even know why I come here. All you guys make me sick. Well not everyone... But a lot of you guys should just go kill yourself.
I've wanted to get that off my chest for awhile thanks. On a side note RMN is pretty well organized and is very RM oriented but... That community is just lacking something (good members?) and tbh your sound like an idiot saying "Forget you MAAN, I'm moving on to a BETTER place!"
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Guys, RMN has podcasts.....I am leaving GW for RMN because I want to hear RM2k dudes mumble into a mic...
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man ghost i know you already got warned for this but it's not really cool.
i like how he says he's going to miss strangeluv when strangeluv is the grossest person when it comes to silver4donuts.
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we'd have podcasts too..... psyburn
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Btw I wasn't being serious. I was basically testing how far I had to go to get warned.
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Guys, RMN has podcasts.....I am leaving GW for RMN because I want to hear RM2k dudes mumble into a mic...
Ahahaha yeah that is pretty tempting
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I think gw pushed you into getting so far into monopolo. Like a badass gym coach that makes fun of your haircut and makes you run more than anyone, but on the inside he wants you to succeed. And he buys you a Dr.Pepper every now and then. Cause even though he's a hardass, he has a nougat center. But then the coach started to lay off you, not think about you, hoping you would become self dependant and finish your exercise program on your own. You need the structure. I don't think you'll work as hard or be as passionate about your projects at RMN. You'll slowly lose interest in each project you start, because no one will be pushing you towards finishing it. If your project got delayed, RMN would be lining up to give you high fives. We would push you to keep you on track. or something
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Ahahaha yeah that is pretty tempting
Everyone knows the number of podcasts is directly proportional to the quality of a community, GW just needs to make three podcasts to be three times better.
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So I am a staff member at RMN and like . . . myself and everyone else on staff doesn't like that some of the membership (Silver for example) has created this weird rivalry with Gaming World that doesn't actually exist. It's pretty stupid!
Also I disagree that RMN's site has a better layout! Because it doesn't and the site is half-finished and we're like making revisions every day I don't know how anyone could think that.
Guys, RMN has podcasts.....I am leaving GW for RMN because I want to hear RM2k dudes mumble into a mic...
:(
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I don't remember when this entire rivalry bullshit started, can somebody make an outline of the story?
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noo who will strangeluv and esh be able to sperg over now????
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i was going to post something about diet coke being just like me but i'll truncate it to: diet coke is gay
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Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT - Tell the truth - are you leaving because I told you not to plug your game more than twice per page in the What are you working on topic? Because you were pretty upset over that.
You complain about the bannings, man. But you say you will miss me and GZ. GZ and I are the only ones who have banned you on this site =(
Unless it's like... Gomer Pyle and Sergeant Hartmann :fogetgasp:
1.) The Staff Members
Although not everyone here I can blame, there are some who I do. Some of the people here are just terrible, they are just downright mean and seems like they have nothing better to do but attack people for sometimes no reason at all! The mods are even WORSE! You make one mistake and they are buzzing on you like flies on butter! And what worse is that if you managed to get banned, you have to wait like a week, month or 3 months to come back! Over stupid matters sometimes! It's just terrible, the mods have really destoryed this once fine place. Like I said...some people are okay with me, but this is just getting too radicious! Whatever happened to having fun and silly!?
If this is relating to me, come on dude, I am probably the most "laid-back loser" mod on this site. I have no problem at all with silly and fun. There are reasons why you have been banned, man. Check your goddamn warn log and see what me, UPRC and Esh have been parroting for so long now and notice why what you did to get verbal warns have been jacked up to minors. I am not strict at all but you push it a lot and I warn you because it's not just me who have a problem with it but people actually PM me about you. Remember that really long PM you sent to me and GZ about how you had improved? What happened to that?
Also, when's Monopolo being released... I'll give it a DL just for you, S4D... I heard you were also planning Monopolo 2
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GW is like O2, you'll be back.
Take it from 2 guys who have been here 7 years. You'll be back. Maybe not to stay, but you'll be back.
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So I am a staff member at RMN and like . . . myself and everyone else on staff doesn't like that some of the membership (Silver for example) has created this weird rivalry with Gaming World that doesn't actually exist. It's pretty stupid!
Also I disagree that RMN's site has a better layout! Because it doesn't and the site is half-finished and we're like making revisions every day I don't know how anyone could think that.
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I heard WIP left because of the memberbase. I actually felt bad about that.
also get the fuck out of here s4d. everyone else might be saying HES HARMLESS and you are but you are still just so unfathomably stupid and you're probably also that terrible pipcaptor guy too and yeah good riddance. you exude a doppler effect of idiocy so anyone who posts after you gets dumber as a result.
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the next time you join a website have more than a child's rudimentary grasp of english. you're 23 you should not be saying "from my sights" (you're a human being you cannot say SIGHTS when you have one sight, sights are used in military terminology because a gun has several sights), let alone "peak of it's presance" (what? WHAT?), "destoryed" or most incomprehensible to me, "flies on butter" and "radicious". I don't even know what the last one was supposed to mean. ridiculous?
seriously you're so terrible at posting there is a sizeable portion of GW who seriously, as in legit, no joke, thinks you're retarded. as in you are mentally disabled. this is your rep on this site!
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but would a mentally disabled person want to/have the ability to remake Monop.......
oh
i see
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GUYS, you're making the number 5 on his list CAPITLIZE, I meant CAPITALIZE.
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GUYS, you're making the number 5 on his list CAPITLIZE, I meant CAPITALIZE.
all caps rule. slack grammar and all caps forever. its either that or you post like silver4donuts.
also just noticed he thanked Strangeluv. he's so dumb. you're so dumb s4d! someone lock this shit btw nooooo one cares. dude couldn't even make his stupid copyright infringement game, why does he get a big topic in General?
(it is because he is very dumb).
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I heard WIP left because of the memberbase. I actually felt bad about that.
http://www.rpgmaker.net/forums/index.php?topic=2931.0
Here you go, have fun.
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Jesus, what a baby.
It's just Internet forums. My god.
GW is just the same as it's always been and it's not going to change. Just grow up and quit worrying about the meanie weanies making fun of you from a thousand miles away through text.
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i just signed up to RMN...
i was TOO tempting, i had to see what the fuss was about.
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http://www.rpgmaker.net/forums/index.php?topic=2931.0
Here you go, have fun.
you're gonna have to sum this up for me as it's all revolving around an old game and apparently an RTP sprite I've never seen.
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you're gonna have to sum this up for me as it's all revolving around an old game and apparently an RTP sprite I've never seen.
McDohl released a game he made with RPGMaker VX. He is not as serious about his game as some community members and is also like "whatever it comes with RTP etc I will make an RPG with it". He has no art abilities so even like his maps are really bad. The game looks bad in screenshots.
However the writing is decent and the game is sort of fun. McDohl is a smart guy and a decent developer.
The memberbase trashed it because of the bad maps and RTP and just looking like . . . . . . . newbie crap. Few people even gave it a shot. The thread stopped being about the game and started being about the RTP etc.
McDohl was a good sport, asked for suggestions, accepted offers of help etc.
WIP was not a good sport and got angry at everyone and told them they were retarded etc. He took personal offense?
But WIP had already quit and had come back to the site angry with a chip on his shoulder so it isn't really things like that that made WIP quit. He quit for personal reasons, burnout, and lack of interest in the community. He is not really interested in amateur games. He is really interested in web and application development. There are also like . . . personal conflicts within staff as well as disagreements about the purpose of the site and all that.
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The memberbase trashed it because of the bad maps and RTP and just looking like . . . . . . . newbie crap. Few people even gave it a shot. The thread stopped being about the game and started being about the RTP etc.
The Memberbase...? I see one person "trashing" the game. The rest is followed by people questioning how WIP reacted to said "trashing". Incidentally; this was the post that set him off.
I love the font you used in the game, but man oh man ... when I saw Ralph I was like "Oooooh, wow ..."
That drew me away from downloading this game, I'm sorry.
Edit:
I might give it a try and try and forget about the fact that you used Ralph as the main character, but darn that really pulled me away.
Wow, harsh.
(Ralph is VX's Alex, I presume)
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Just to sort of echo what Steel said, I really do believe you're somehow mentally deficient S4D and sometimes it makes me feel bad for having such a problem with you, but you can only take so much of PARKER BROTHERS MIGHT PICK UP MONOPOLO WHY WOULD YOU SAY THERE'S NO HOPE FOR THAT?
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just noticed he called his posting a "service".
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i like s4d. fuck you guys you're mean to him. who cares if he's a little bit retarded? he's not mean or vicious or anything. he's..he's like a pet almost.
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no man its depressing - i dont need to be reminded on a daily basis that so many people in the world dont understand whats going on around them
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You guys scared him off finally. Well, I mean it's not like he helped any. Didn't know when to keep his mouth shut, but come on. He was a nice guy. He had pride in his work. Maybe way too much pride but still.
Sure he's annoying sometimes but come on guys. Come on.
I hope you have fun at RMN, S4D.
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no one scared him off. do you people not know how to read? he left because he got completely legitimate warns and because strangeluv told him not to double post in the screenshot thread. you all are giving him a let because he's massively dumb but this is the exact same thing as a FUCK U GW post only he's so stupid he doesn't know how to type that out. lock this shitty topic.
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i mean read this:
1.) The Staff Members
2.) The Site Layout
3.) The Bannings!
4.) No Creativity
5.) Too Much Bashing
bashing is the last one on his list. no creativity is in reference to our lack of podcasts (from a guy remaking monopoly with anime pics), he's been banned for GASP breaking the rules some of which had to be forced into place because he managed to break rules almost everyone else took for granted, the site layout that isn't finished, and some ambiguous staff members thing that makes no sense as strangeluv is the one who harassed him the most and yet he gets a shout out at the end. no one drove him off, he's a fucking idiot who got warned too much and is now pulling this dumb shit.
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Goodnight sweet retarded prince
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goodnight sweet retarded prince
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S4D is on to something though. Gamingw is the pits! It's really terrible and I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I don't even know why I come here. All you guys make me sick. Well not everyone... But a lot of you guys should just go kill yourself.
This is not the type of place you want to be in if you're dumb or unable to express yourself in coherent English (not referring to you personally, just taking a random post I can quote). This is going to sound stupid, but this place actually has a high posting standard. Or at least makes a conscious effort to that effect. That means sometimes it's necessary to be hard on members.
Most of the time, people posting on an online forum are just children who don't want parents.
It's UNDERSTANDABLE that some people don't like it when others show up and act as if they are their parents. But really, if he gets upset by that, there's no place for him here.
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how much did rmn pay for that advert?
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how much did rmn pay for that advert?
dont do this. its because of s4d and mog that anyone even believes there is an RMN/GW battle going on as if either site will go down if we don't suck away the other members. don't support it with posts implying those guys are right.
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yeah, i agree that the "gaming forum war" is pretty stupid, but honestly, that post sounds like and ad.
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its because everything s4d does is an advertisement. if you can go through twenty of his posts and not find one mentioning monopolo, it is because someone hacked his account.
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was he as stupid before monopolo? I don't pay attention to G&D so I only knew about the guy when strangeluv posted that topic in the crapshack saying RELEASE IT OR I BAN YOU.
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Oh, c'mon Steel give the guy a break...he's just...really passionate about his game. I mean, isn't this GAMING World. He just overdid the whole "this is my game, look at it" deal.
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He just overdid the whole "this is my game, look at it" deal.
Severely but yeah.
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he was in the running for "member who thinks he's funny but isn't" in 2007, so I'd assume so.
Oh, c'mon Steel give the guy a break...he's just...really passionate about his game. I mean, isn't this GAMING World. He just overdid the whole "this is my game, look at it" deal.
no dude he's actually really fucking stupid. like I don't know if I buy RETARDED but I could, honestly. look up any of those dumb Strangeluv topics about him. notice first of all none of them are really friendly at all but S4D is so fucking stupid he can't tell. and look at what he says. people specifically say S4D: STOP POSTING and he'll keep posting. he thinks by renaming his game Monopoly, Parker Brothers will pay him money to be the official game. he's created XBOX CONTROLLER SCHEME for his Monopoly game.
he's easily one of the dumbest members on GW. easily. like Y2Dazz wasn't the smartest guy but he also wasn't 23 when he said that shit. I cannot think of someone as dumb as S4D. he's harmless but he's so stupid and all this "poor s4d" shit is ignoring the fact that this is a garbage topic as he is prone to making (remember when he left before?) and it's for a totally worthless member. more annoying is the fact anyone cares about him at all other than "oh an RM guy is leaving, okay".
s4d would be a footnote if it wasn't for all of you elevating him to the status of some bullshit icon and it's unbelievable that someone this stupid is now getting sympathy because strangeluv and the magi and all those losers thought it was hilarious to make like thirty topics about him and you think he's leaving from harassment instead of the fact he's so dumb he can't figure anything out and thinks he's being specially targeted by anyone while thanking the one person who has made him into the colossal forum joke he is.
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writing a topic saying how you're gunna make money about an rpgmaker game featuring a the sales assistMan if someone told me they were putting me in a game I'd be fucking creeped out. I'm think she probubly is too, but doing the whole polite thing.
I initially felt bad for guys like him and Hatsuya and PKUltima because they were treated badly and it was unfair. But then they never seemed to catch on so fuck em.
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why does any of this even matter though? GW's got a dumb member... whoa.. time to grab the pitchforks. i'd much rather see him around than colossal idiots like harry manback and girlbones.
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in fact, i'd rather read an entire s4d topic about xbox control schemes than one strangeluv topic being ironic or bitching about s4d or g&d.
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without S4D, we wouldn't have sluv making topics about him, and I haven't noticed any "GRR G&D" topics other than when some of em tried to attack "GW'S future" topics. Does the mod forum still have those retarded LOL LOK AT G&D circlejerk topics btw?
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without S4D, we wouldn't have sluv making topics about him
yeah, this is what i was going to say, with S4D around you have both S4D's awful topics and Strangeluv's topics about him, with him gone you have NEITHER, how do you not see the benefit ryan?
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this is stupid. there's absolutely no way harry or girlbones are worse than s4d. clearly you've never been to the game dev forums before. s4d and people like him are the main reasons why those forums were such a joke and why it was never worth your time ever going into g&d.
yeah this is true. my point though was whilst (heh) s4d is really obnoxiously stupid, none of his posts really annoy me like those two do. he's not dumb in the same way a lot of other members are, which is definitely a plus. he's more of a doktormartini than a jihad jerry i guess.
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I think Velfarre made me laugh the most suggesting he was "mentally deficient". The thing that makes me wonder the most is how he doesn't understand that he basically ignored all the rules in G&D (where he mostly posts). I think he's probably the only guy in G&D who got so many other people warned for complaining about him. Seriously, S4d you got some mad slack so what exactly are you complaining about?
If you worried about the self image you manage to make for yourself then that's entirely your fault. It's like you don't have the ability to actually take in what people have to say. Forget your game, I mean your whole complete disregard to basic rules.
- Don't post in so many fonts/colors
- Don't paragraphs of advertisement in screenshot thread
- Stop relating ever post to your game (how do you even do this?)
- completely inept to warns or warnings, forget ACTUAL members
Like, I'm not a little kid so I never take things personally. I manage to just ignore you and to be honest I would have maybe even played your game since you hyped it to death but I don't know about that anymore. When you say things like...
"I will only bless my game to one forum, sorry gamingw you had your chance!"
Yeah basically I don't care about your game because you act like it's some kind of blessing. I do the same thing but I'm not serious at all, BIG DIFF buddy. Anyways as I said because nobody can actually see people here in real life. Your posts pretty much determine your entire personality. Based off your posts alone, I don't think Velfarre isn't too far off. Basically everyone here would just like you to act your age and don't post when ever you get a jolt of energy. Trust me, just because you want to blab all day doesn't mean others want to listen. Your game should sell itself with some advertisement.
Now I wrote a big post about an issue I really careless about!
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how about you lock this topic ryan. if this was anyone else you would! s4d is not significant. he's released nothing. he's a fucking footnote in strangeluv's dumbest crusade ever and he's phenomenally stupid to boot.
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yeah i guess it's time. idk callout topics generally have some of the most interesting discussions and this was becoming a callout topic fast but yeah..s4d.. :fogetshrug:
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you guys shouldn't be such dicks btw. s4d is probably bad in the game dev forums but aside from that he is like the most benign guy ever and is probably learning disabled or something. being like HEH GO FAGET JUST LEAVE is really lame/unnecessary for someone who is essentially a WALLFLOWER and also probably cannot help being a dummy when we've got much worse members who don't get treated with that level of contempt. it is one thing to call someone like dark angel an idiot but it's another thing entirely to be needlessly mean/belittling to some random idiot who's not even doing anything.
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I have made one topic about Silver4Donuts, by the way, in the Crap Shack. Two, if you count mod forum.
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ahahaha strangeluv don't even try to act like you are not the guiltiest guy here.