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General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: The Ghost on January 29, 2009, 11:38:25 pm
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Disclaimer
I would just like to start off by saying that I did not make this topic to fill my hate jar or to spread hate upon homosexual people. I also understand the audience here and that there are homosexual individuals in our community as well. With that said, I just want to point out some things I noticed about what I've seen in the media regarding homosexuality. It's obviously a sensitive topic and I don't mean to offend anyone but I guess I am just confused...
Maybe you guys can help me understand, no? I want to hear from SUPPORTERS of homosexuality. Let me again tell you where I stand! I have no problems with gay people. I work with gay people, I know gay people in my class, I don't really have gay friends but I still socialize with gay people just about everywhere (I'm sure many people like me anyways). Basically i do not agree with their life style but I let bygones be bygones.
Now, I plan to just post a whole bunch of ideas and you guys can quote me and respond. I just think there is a stigma of going AGAINST gay people means gay bashing! There are some facts that actually back up some claims. I'm really detached emotionally from this subject and I'm really only following my logic. So anyways, here I go!
gonna cut everyone off and say yes I know gays are genetic and vegetarianism isn't but put in something else that people advocate for that would be around anyways. idk, planned parenthood?
First, after many years of intense research, a genetic component to homosexual desires has not been discovered. Twin studies show that identical twins do not consistently have the same sexual orientation. In fact, genetics probably explains very little about homosexual desires. How would a homosexual “gene” be passed on? Homosexuals don’t pass on anything because they don’t reproduce.
Second, the “born-that-way” claim is an argument from design— “since God designed me with these desires, I ought to act on them.” But the people who say this overlook something more obvious— they were also born with a specific gender. This raises the question: Why are you following your desires but not your gender? After all, we’re not sure if your desires were designed or the result of your upbringing, but we are certain that your anatomy is designed. So why not follow your anatomy rather than your desires? Ignoring your desires may be uncomfortable, but ignoring the natural design of your body is often fatal.
Third, even if desires are not a choice, sexual behavior always is. So even if a person honestly believes that he’s been born with homosexual desires, he is certainly capable of controlling his sexual behavior. If you claim that he is not—that sexual behavior is somehow uncontrollable—then you have made the absurd contention that no one can be morally responsible for any sexual crime, including rape, incest, and child molestation.
Fourth, being born a certain way is irrelevant to what the law should be. Laws are concerned with behaviors not desires, and we all have desires we ought not act on. In fact, all of us were born with an “orientation” to bad behavior, but those desires don’t justify the behaviors. For example, if you are born with a genetic predisposition to alcohol, does that mean God wants you to be an alcoholic? If someone has a genetic attraction to children, does that mean God wants you to be a pedophile? (According to pedophiles it does!) What homosexual activist would say that a genetic predisposition to anger justifies gay-bashing? (Born gay? What if the gay basher was born mean?)
Some will say, “But homosexual sex is about love.” One can say that, but what’s loving about sexual activity that creates numerous health problems, increases medical costs to everyone, and reduces the lifespan of homosexuals by 8-20 years? (A homosexual friend of mine fared even worse—he died at age 36 from AIDS.) Yes, I know—people of the same sex love one another. But if the sex act is medically dangerous, the best way to love the other person is not to have sex with him. In fact, most of our loving relationships are non-sexual.
Finally, even if we someday discover a genetic contribution to homosexual desires, that would not mean that the behavior is something the government should endorse. Yet that’s exactly what government-backed same-sex marriage would do--- it would endorse and thus promote the false idea that marriage between a man and a woman is no better for children or society than marriage between same-sex partners.
legally equating the two types of relationships breaks the link between marriage and childbearing which leads to higher illegitimacy and a chain of negative effects that fall like dominoes—illegitimacy leads to poverty, crime, and higher welfare costs which lead to bigger government, higher taxes, and a slower economy. It also will result in homosexuality being imposed against the will of the people in our schools, businesses, and charities as it has in Massachusetts
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/effects_of_ssm.html
Click on that link if you want. So even if you think there is nothing morally wrong with homosexual behavior, there is every reason to oppose same-sex marriage.
The bottom line is that desires, whatever their source, do not justify behaviors. In fact, there’s a word we use to describe the disciplined restraint of destructive behaviors– it’s called civilization. For any civilization to survive, quite a lot of restraint is going to be necessary.
The push for same-sex marriage does the opposite. Instead of restraining negative behaviors, homosexual activists are asking us not just to tolerate, but to endorse them. For the sake of civilization, we all need to restrain our destructive behaviors. At the very least we should not be demanding that the government endorse them—even if we think we were “born that way.”
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It's hard to have an intellectual conversation about this when you just said having gay sex means automatically getting AIDS.
Also you assume that marriage and sex are inherently lumped together and that gays can't raise children and somehow gay marriage bothers you but you don't think divorce should be illegal and I really can't do anything with this mess.
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First, after many years of intense research, a genetic component to homosexual desires has not been discovered.
yeah okay we're not going to do this if you aren't even going to look shit up.
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I don't know where I said that?
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Can you just prove me wrong? You can look say what you have to say instead of one liners.
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I don't know where I said that?
Your list has "first, second," etc, it was the one that started with 'first'. You definitely said that, look at your own post!
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every single evil, every death, every murder, every aborted child, every rape, every terrible injustice, can be linked to the product of heterosexual intercourse.
*puffs pipe*
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every case of aids is because of gay people FACT *post this, forget i posted this and then wonder why no one takes me seriously*
straight people are immune to aids didn't you know?
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can i request the discussion of transies please?
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Summary: no one can have an intelligent discussion based on the least intelligent intro to the topic possible (gays shouldn't have sex they'll all die if they do)
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Can you just prove me wrong? You can look say what you have to say instead of one liners.
1. i could, yes.
2. somethings wrong with your sentence.
can i request the discussion of transies please?
isn't it trannies and that's actually a can of worms and if we've got a dude freaking out about GAYS ARENT REAL there's no way we could have a mature discussion of transsexuality.
if only...you had AM...
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If you really wanted a serious discussion you probably should've posted some sources and not said gays have aids (paraphrased but pretty akkurite)
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dude why would you want to change your behavior if your desires are potentially harmless and it makes you happy? the law the law thelaw
the law has no place telling two consensual adults that they cannot make love and be together legally if it isn't hurting anyone. And it isn't, in no way shape or form. The majority of that post is pretty ridiculous and yeah, you're gonna need some sources.
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fyi massresistance is a well known hate group as identified by the SPLC. you basically just linked stormfront to prove your argument.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/type.jsp?DT=26
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it would endorse and thus promote the false idea that marriage between a man and a woman is no better for children or society than marriage between same-sex partners.
also could you explain why this is "the false idea" because uh considering how many marriages are HORRIBLE FAILURES that end in divorce, i don't see how a potentially loving same sex family could be considered WORSE for children and society than the couple in the trailer park throwing plates at each other while little bobby stands in the doorway crying
as long as gay marriage is illegal on the grounds of THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE, heterosexual divorce should be too
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no im serious there's actually no need to reply to this topic with anything but trolling, the dude linked a hategroup in the op.
can i post gay porn now or what.
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"Hey."
"Hey, what? Are you implying something?"
Wait, backtrack a little. I wake up this morning exactly three minutes before I am supposed to be at work. Good thing I have superhuman powers, or I would have been late.
Okay, so maybe I'm a little late. Ten minutes, that's it.
Well, maybe Fifteen. And that's really not that late. I didn't even have time to do my hair.
So, as I race through the doors of the hospital, I see the Janitor. And apparently I have developed a taste for torture, because I decide to acknowledge him. In a friendly matter. No sarcasm. I swear. And still with the accusations.
So, back to our riveting conversation.
", just 'hey'" I give my friendliest grimace.
"Really? Because I could have sworn you were implying something."
"Nope."
"Because if you were implying something, I will find out." He squints at me sideways.
" 'Kay." I race off before he can block my way. Note to self: stay away from him today. He seems more paranoid than usual. Maybe off his meds?
I make it to the desk from the doors in record time, panting, and find Carla looking over a chart.
"Hey, Carla."
"Hey Bambi." She looks up and starts. "What's with the hair. Did you stick your finger in a socket this morning?"
"It's a new trend, 'bedhead' All the cool guys are doing it."
"."
"Really. They are."
"OK, Bambi. Anyway, watch out for Kelso. He's on the warpath."
"Kelso? That senile old." I watch a look of horror spread over Carla's face. She draws her finger across her neck.
Oh God.
No.
He did not just walk around the corner and hear me say that. That would be too predictable.
Too typical.
Too cliché.
I turn to . Kelso. Smiling. Malicious bastard.
"Dr. Dorian, how nice of you to join us this morning."
"Oh, hey Dr. Kelso. I didn't hear you come up behind me there." I paste on a shit-eating grin.
"No? You could have fooled me."
"Fool you, sir? Never!"
"Kindly remove your lips from my ass, Dr. Dorian."
"Yes, sir."
"Now, since you decided to show up last today, all of the good patients are gone." He grabs two charts from the general clutter of the desk. "So, sport, what'll it be? The triplets with projectile vomiting in exam two? Or the drunk high-school baton twirler in four?"
I stare at him in mute dread, not liking where this is going.
"Do you want to know where the baton is?"
I shake my head slightly, really not liking where this is going.
He drops the chart into my waiting hands.
"Well, you're going to find out. Enjoy."
I sigh and nod, heading for exam four. I only make it a few steps.
"Oh, Dr. Dorian?" I turn to see a huge grin on Kelso's face. "Have a nice day." He disappears around a corner.
If only I could shoot lasers out of my eyes.
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Seven horrible hours later. One hour left of my shift. All I want is to go home and be alone. By myself.
I found out where the baton was. You don't want to know. Really.
And the day really hasn't improved since then.
I'm walking down the hallway, when who comes around the corner but my good friend the Janitor.
No way in hell. Not happening.
I make an about-face, only to be confronted with another potential calamity. Here comes Dr. Cox, and he looks rather not happy. Rather really not happy. In fact, I can see the big ol' vein in his forehead pulsing dangerously from twenty feet away.
Oh god.
I duck into the door onto my right. A washroom. The men's room, as luck would have it. I walk over to the sink and lean over it, heaving a sigh of relief.
But then the door opens, and in comes Dr. Cox, and he looks righteously pissed.
"Why are you following me?!" I blurt out. I really couldn't help myself. Really.
He stops dead in his tracks, so fast that his shoes squeak on the tile floor. God, am I in for it.
"Oh, I'm so sorry, Jenny. I was under the impression that this was a public bathroom. But apparently, while I wasn't looking someone made it into your own private little kingdom. Is that right?"
"No, b."
"And, silly old me, I just thought that maybe I would be permitted to come in here and wash my hands. You see, some little ankle biter with a cold or the flu or the bubonic plague or whatever decided that my hands here" he held them up, palms towards me, "would be the absolutely perfect place to blow his cute little button nose. And I thought that maybe, if it's okay with you of course, I could wash them off before I went down to the cafeteria to eat whatever they're passing off as food today. So, what do you say? Can I? Pretty please?"
By now I'm blushing and feeling like a complete idiot. I move out of the way and gesture towards the sink, "Be my guest."
He mock-curtseys in my general direction and moves to wash his hands while I watch him from behind.
"Is there some reason that me washing my hands warrants such rapt fascination from you, Carol?"
I jump and stutter something unintelligible out and he shrugs indifferently and moves to grab some paper towel.
"Are you going to hide in here for the rest of your shift?"
"Maybe."
"Well, good luck with that." He moves for the door, but suddenly I am desperate for someone to talk to.
"I'm just having a really bad day."
He turns back and looks at me.
"Why are you telling me this? If you want me to be your shrink, you're going to have to start paying me five hundred an hour."
"I just though..."
"Well, you thought wrong. I have better things to do than listening to you and your little peon friends whine about the mundane details of your vapid little lives."
I'm staring at the floor and my throat is beginning to ache.
"And now you're going to cry because I'm just a big meanie, and I don't understand how hard you have it and etcetera etcetera etcetera. Well, boo- hoo." He pretends to rub his eyes.
I can't help it. The first tears slide down my face, slipping off the end of my drip.
He is quiet for a minute, and I look up at him. He is staring back at me with disbelief.
"Are you actually crying? God, this is a first" He cocks his head to one side, "Dorian, not even Nervous Guy actually cries. Nervous Guy! He's a walking brain aneurysm, for God's sake!"
"I'm sorry, Dr. Cox." I scrub at my eyes."I...wait, what did you just call me?"
"I don't know."
"You just called me 'Dorian'."
"Dorian is a girl's name."
"Dorian is my name!"
"Exactly." He stares at me, with something that might be construed as concern in his face.
"Have you stopped...uh...leaking yet?"
"I got it under control." I am so lying.
"My, isn't this awkward?" He clears his throat. "I'll make you a deal. I will do whatever it takes to get out of here in the shortest time possible."
"All I really need is a hug."
"Hell no."
"Please?"
He sighs and rolls his eyes, "Fine." He shuts his eyes and takes a deep breath. "Just let me brace myself."
Finally a nod from him, and he steps forward to wrap his arms around my shoulders ineptly. I snug my arms around his hips.
We stand like this for a minute, and suddenly I get a notion in my head. I have no idea where it comes from. But there it is.
I twist my neck so I can press my lips to his, and to my surprise, he is rather receptive.
The kiss is short, but rather engaging, if I do say so myself.
As we separate, I keep my eyes on his. His cheeks are the primary red of kindergarten finger-paint. His eyes look a bit...crazed.
"If you ever tell anyone about this, I swear they'll never find your body."
"Yeah." I can't keep the endearing grin from spreading over my face.
"Yeah." He snorts and smiles despite himself, shaking his head as he turns to leave. The door doesn't even have a chance to swing behind him as he leaves. The Janitor appears in the doorway, as if by magic.
"Hey." He winks at me.
"Are you implying something?" I squeak.
"I'm not not implying something."
"Were you listening this whole time?"
"I wasn't not listening."
Crap. Double super to get out of this sticky situation?
Ah yes.
"BANANA HAMMOCK!" I shout, rather too loudly, as I duck under his arm and careen down the hall. ********
The end. Mrow.
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"Hello Linus," said Link. "Lovely weather we're having."
"Yes, it is beautiful," said Linus. "Have you noticed that when you lie down on the ground, facing the sky, you can see pictures from the clouds?"
"I tried it once as a child, but I was forced into something more important," said Link.
"Well, let's go over to that tree over there and look at the sky, shall we?"
"Sure."
Link and Linus went over to the tree and lay down, face up in the grass, gazing at the vast, blue sky.
"Do you see anything yet, Link?"
"No Linus."
"Well, I do. That cloud over to my right looks like an equestrian on his horse. And the cloud next to it looks like a shepherd tending to his sheep."
"Wait, I see a cloud! It looks like a huge flower, blossoming its colors to the world," said Link.
"I think the Lord created clouds for a reason," said Linus. "I believe He created them because He has an imagination like us."
"Really?"
"Yes, Link. In the book of Genesis, chapter one, verse one, God says, 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'"
"Wow! I never knew that," said Link. "Can you tell me more about God?"
"I'd be delighted, Link, for God offers everyone a free gift of eternal life."
"Please tell me about it," implored Link.
Linus continues to share the Gospel with Link and helped Link to accept Christ.
"Thank you Linus," said Link. "Can I tell the others in Hyrule about this?"
"Yes, please do," said Linus. "God loves us all and we all must get to know Him."
"God created such beautiful things, Linus," said Link.
"God would never create anything hideous, Link," said Linus. "Only people think up and create hideous things."
That night while Link was sleeping in the spare bedroom of Charlie Brown's home, he thought to himself.
"Wow, it's great to know that God loves me and everyone else. I must share this with everyone back in Hyrule when I go home tomorrow."
Tomorrow morning, Link bid farewell to his friends.
"It's been great meeting you all, but I must go home. I have a wife and two children that are waiting for me," said Link.
"Bye Link," said Charlie Brown."
"Bye Charlie Brown."
Snoopy walked up to Link and saluted him.
"Bye Snoopy," said Link as he patted his head. "Be a good dog."
"Be a good dog?" thought Snoopy. "I'm always a good dog."
After exchanging good-byes, Link was transported back to Hyrule. He fell from the sky and landed in the the Hyrule Marketplace near the castle. Zelda was there to meet him.
"Link, where were you?" asked Zelda. "I've been worried about you."
"No need to worry now Zelda," said Link. "I'm here and I want to share something with you."
"Oh really, what is it?" she asked.
"Well, it was shared to me by a friend of mine and I'd like to share it with you on our way back to Hyrule Castle."
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1. i could, yes.
2. somethings wrong with your sentence.
isn't it trannies and that's actually a can of worms and if we've got a dude freaking out about GAYS ARENT REAL there's no way we could have a mature discussion of transsexuality.
if only...you had AM...
what is AM? and my god what is going on? ^
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man this has to be a troll post, nobody besides evangelicals is this dumb.
YOU'RE GONNA GET AIDS, FAGGOT!!!!
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man this has to be a troll post, nobody besides evangelicals is this dumb.
YOU'RE GONNA GET AIDS, FAGGOT!!!!
actually dude a lot of engineers get this way. like if they aren't in biology you will hear them say dumb shit like "humanity would die out if we were all gay" and "evolution can't be real, the eye is so complex it was designed". it's weird, nerds can really turn into just the most surprising bigots and they don't even have their immortal souls at risk, they are just hilariously racist or whatever.
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RE-CRIMINALISE THE GAY
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I think you guys are blowing shit out of porportion. Are you telling me there isn't higher risks of homosexuals having intercourse then heteralsexual relationships?
And honestly I haven't insulted any of guys so I don't see why you can't just make an actual post instead of "Lol Posts".
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There aren't higher risks because having unprotected sex with anyone but a long-term, tested partner is dangerous NO MATTER WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE. You are seriously saying "gays shouldn't have sex with people they love because THEY ALL HAVE AIDS". What is wrong with you?????
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I think you guys are blowing shit out of porportion. Are you telling me there isn't higher risks of homosexuals having intercourse then heteralsexual relationships?
yes but your sentence construction is awful. there is more risk in having a heterosexual relationship with multiple instances of intercourse than a homosexual having one instance of intercourse.
and don't think I didn't notice the false equivalency you drew, implying there's no such thing as a homosexual relationship.
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intellectual discussion please about homosexuality and heteralsexuals.
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sodomy is a lot more complicated than vaginal intercourse if that's what he's talking about.
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they can still suck each others cocks and cum all over each other with equivalent safety though
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we should ban all marriage because heterosexual men and women on the streets are sharing drug needles, they shouldn't be able to get married
i guess a gay must have used the needle at some point for the aids to get on it though (aids only comes from gay people)
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And honestly I haven't insulted any of guys so I don't see why you can't just make an actual post instead of "Lol Posts".
it's because there is no possible way to reply to you
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33JesusIsLord33 (1 week ago) -5 Reply
fags die god laughs
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I think you guys are blowing shit out of porportion. Are you telling me there isn't higher risks of homosexuals having intercourse then heteralsexual relationships?
first of all, risks? what is wrong with sex?
second of all you're obviously either too young to have had sex or all the girlfriends you've had are boring as fuuuuccckkk.
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for the record not all gay couples are sex crazed maniacs or whatever you're trying to imply there. that's pretty offensive!
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first of all, risks? what is wrong with sex?
reread his first post, it's because gays get aids when they have sex
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I think you guys are blowing shit out of porportion. Are you telling me there isn't higher risks of homosexuals having intercourse then heteralsexual relationships?
And honestly I haven't insulted any of guys so I don't see why you can't just make an actual post instead of "Lol Posts".
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There is no higher risk of homosexual sex if both partners are honest with each other, using protection, clean, and tested. It's the same as heterosexual relationships.
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seriously. homosexuality is a shit that needs wiping up.
discuss!
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reread his first post, it's because gays get aids when they have sex
the way he phrased his post made it seem like he thought sex itself was a risk.
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sex is only a risk when gays do it
it's okay guys though he's met gay people before so he knows what he's saying
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first of all, risks? what is wrong with sex?
second of all you're obviously either too young to have had sex or all the girlfriends you've had are boring as fuuuuccckkk.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/resources/factsheets/msm.htm
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That grants as much appeasement these days as when certain people wanted to die for an ideal in the times of the great enlightenment, die for their opinions, give their life for their faith or something else close to man, like sacrificing oneself for a father, mother, woman, or child, God and society: the whole world, just as the Savior did- the art of imitating him has been considered a great virtue. But it will take a long time before people with AIDS will be counted as saints anybody; enjoying love and dying on its account from a real and terrifying disease has nothing to do with philosophy or economics or gods, but rather with a vague and uncontrollable longing which Christians call perversion because it dies on its own account the moment it is satisfied.
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<Tom_Noo[k]> why are you asking a bunch of ugly fat nerds anyway.
loooool
word honestly you guys need to grow the fuck up!
Peace out...
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word dog
peace
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For much of my life, ever since I got married, I have been the most respectable of men and never tolerated any mark on my existence. Now, on the other hand, I live largely for that mark, which was probably a birthmark and is only appearing for the first time now, however pure and white my body or soul mgiht have been before that blemish began to emerge...I would have expected to leave this life as pure, unblemished, and naked as when I was born into the world. Now I have decided to leave it for dead because of a different kind of faith.
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http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/resources/factsheets/msm.htm
Do you know the history of AIDS?
A lot of homosexuals used to think that there was no consequence of sexual promiscuity because there was no research or anything on it. So protection was an afterthought until the AIDS outbreak devastated the gay community and caused everyone to begin rethinking their attitudes toward homosexual sex and begin openly encouraging safe practices. That's why if you look at the statistics, you see that in the 90's and 2000's HIV rates have been decreasing.
It's not because gay sex in and of itself is innately more harmful or AIDS just thrives in gay buttholes or something.
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ghost the problem you've got is that you don't see the connection between denying people their rights and being a huge fucking prick. you can try as hard as you like, you aren't going to find a logical argument for any kind of anti-homosexual sentiment no matter how severe or mild. it's very hard to debate something with somebody who has already made up their mind based on totally erroneous information and baseless connections, because all we can really say is "nope ya dummy!!!" over and over again.
i mean i decided i was going to go through your post and respond to whatever your points were, but they were just as stupid as i feared they would be. let's cut through all the student rhetoric and just say what you really think, which is that gays are evil and gross and you don't want em to exist your facts and correlations are horseshit and everybody knows that, even you probably know that and you hoped nobody would notice. your post is just a barrage of laughable shit.
gays break up families, gays all have AIDS, gays will cause the end of mankind, gays are all paedophiles, being gay is a choice (completely fucking irrelevant anyway) - all of this is total bullshit and you don't understand.
i hadn't heard of that site you linked to before, but it's among the biggest piles of shit i've seen. that's not an information source, it's a pool of insidious vomit that idiots and assholes gargle down till they throw it all back up for the next one.
there is a reason people get angry when you say things like this. it's not that it's a touchy issue, or anything like that. a touchy issue is a recent bad break up. and it's not a controversial issue. among people with any decency, there isn't any controversy. it's about human rights and equality, and anybody who places value in those things can understand why something as honestly trivial as what consenting adult is the place you chose to stick your dick is no business of anyone's but those involved or invited. and if you don't care about that kind of thing, then i don't give a fuck what you think about anything. it doesn't matter how much you dress up in the language of a well reasoned argument, you don't have one.
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Plus, as it says in that article a lot of gay people are too afraid to admit they're gay which interferes with them getting testing which means that PEOPLE LIKE YOU are contributing to this shit by not treating the gays like people.
A large percentage of the people with AIDS (heterosexual and homosexual both) are black, should black people stop having sex and not be allowed to marry?
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Today when we had been together I lay on top of him and smelled the scent of what we had done. Afterward he had stretched out his arms as he always does, giving the impression that, dumbfounded and satisfied, he is welcoming heaven. I put both my arms onto his and we clenched our hands with our palms togehter; we are around the same height and of not dissimilar build, so we fit each other, like two matching pieces of a pawned pledge. When I nestled my face slowly against his neck I could feel the warmth and scent of the pleasure that comes from loving, the sweet aroma of love itself. His flesh was everywhere both tangible and subjective. We lay like that for a long time, like beings who have been nailed against each other of their own free will in order to die on a shared cross...
If someone made an eloquent invitation for me to step down from the cross and return to the society of other men in such a way that no spear would ever be thrust into my tormented flesh and belly and not blood or fluid would pour down from there as a symbol of the inner flow, and I was offered heaven with countless mansions, security with my father and constant feasting in his home, and I could live under the sweet protective wing of my mother for time ever after and thereby end up in the bosom of the holy family- I would rather hang crucified upon my friend, though the world considered it a mortal sin and stoned me and cast me out for preferring to die into his dust than to live in harmony with what I married fifteen years ago but had my first child by twenty-five years ago, just turned twenty then.
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I think people need to stop taking sexuality seriously and start having sex.
Who cares what dick goes in what hole? I honestly don't understand why it matters at all. Maybe its because I'm exposed to gratuitous sex of all flavors on a daily basis, but I'm seriously done caring.
Word of advice for people: start fucking
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Jesus was gay you piece of shit, put that in your bible and smoke it
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<Tom_Noo[k]> why are you asking a bunch of ugly fat nerds anyway.
loooool
word honestly you guys need to grow the fuck up!
Peace out...
yeah dude, IRC is where all the cool guys hang out
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I think people need to stop taking sexuality seriously and start having sex.
Who cares what dick goes in what hole? I honestly don't understand why it matters at all. Maybe its because I'm exposed to gratuitous sex of all flavors on a daily basis, but I'm seriously done carrying.
Word of advice for people: start fucking
Sorry Stadsport but now you have aids and you are going to die.
Grow the fuck up guys let the adults here handle the gays, we've got to fight to protect our buttholes because the gays are going to put their aids dicks in our butts
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Just being in proximity of that burn took off 3 layers of my skin lmao
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Hahahaha A++++++++
Come on guys, we all know gays can't get married because they'll have children with five arms and four legs. We've got to put a stop to this.
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In fact, there’s a word we use to describe the disciplined restraint of destructive behaviors– it’s called civilization. For any civilization to survive, quite a lot of restraint is going to be necessary.
just now noticed this quote
A civilization is a society or culture group normally defined as a complex society characterized by the practice of agriculture and settlement in towns and cities. Compared with other cultures, members of a civilization are organized into a diverse division of labor and an intricate social hierarchy.
don't see anything about gays in there, except for gay nymphomaniac cows fall into the category of agriculture
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People like me? I fucking said right at the beginning of the post that I don't have no grudge against gay people. I know my post are static lifeless post that very vaguely describes my true feelings but I'm telling you that I don't see them as "monsters" as you may believe. This is exactly why no discussion can be made on this topic. You guys are already stating that I'm a gay basher and misquoting me!
On paper, yes by all means their are flaws that makes it really wrong to deny gay marriages. I'm not talking about gay marriages entirely I'm just challenging a few ideas such as "God made me gay" or the fallacy that homosexual intercourse is as safe as heterosexual intercourse. I'm also challenging some of the very arguments that some homosexual use or ideas that are in the media.
I think homosexuality is a lifestyle at best and I'm asking YOU to prove me wrong, that's it. I respect their rights and I will never bash a gay person ever, I don't see what you guys are getting at man. If it's considered a hate crime then I won't say anything to them of course.
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Konix thanks for the pics lol.
I have to go grab something for the store, I'll be glad to respond to any posts later even though this topic will most likely get locked.
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everyone view this topic RIGHT NOW... oh wait.
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the fallacy that homosexual intercourse is as safe as heterosexual intercourse
it is though
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It's not because gay sex in and of itself is innately more harmful or AIDS just thrives in gay buttholes or something.
this is not entirely true! there are bacterias in the anus that aren't found anywhere in the body that increase the risk of infection. butt bacteria is not limited just to gay butts... its all butts! that's why you should always wear a condom when you have sex with a butt. also i'm not sure on this one but i think one of the roles of vaginal fluid is as a sterilizer that helps to kill bacteria, preventing the spread of stds.
have sex with whatever butt or vagina you want, i'm just saying that people who say that there is a greater risk of getting stds from butts are not unwarranted.
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On paper, yes by all means their are flaws that makes it really wrong to deny gay marriages. I'm not talking about gay marriages entirely I'm just challenging a few ideas such as "God made me gay" or the fallacy that homosexual intercourse is as safe as heterosexual intercourse.
FFFFF HOW THE HELL ARE YOU STILL PUSHING THIS, where is YOUR proof that heterosexual intercourse is safer than homosexual intercourse because there is none. More gays have AIDS? Guess what, they got it through unprotected sex or drugs. The straight people with AIDS? Unprotected sex or drugs. Homosexual intercourse isn't dangerous, UNPROTECTED SEX AND DRUGS are dangerous. You know what? Marriage tends to cut down on the promiscuous sex, and provides a long term partner who you probably know does or does not have AIDS. Your entire fucking argument is the fallacy, not mine. Your arguments are just so dang bad (you used a HATE GROUP as a source) that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to have a legit discussion with you, because everyone has already pointed out why you are wrong and you just keep going "EVERYONE IS HATING ON ME NO ONE IS TELLING ME WHY I AM WRONG".
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the anal does not lubricate. where do the aids go? through to the blood upon which a phallus or other sex instrument is likely to draw out upon penetration.
the amendment i am proposiing is
a) sexual intercourse only between woman and man in marriage
b) only style is missionary (spread the word)
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but velfarre you're being mean :(
also lol dude look at the fat nerds ripping me a new asshole I hope I don't get aids!
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butt bacteria is not limited just to gay butts... its all butts!
that's my point
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but velfarre you're being mean :(
i...i can't spread misinformation about gays with you treating me this way... :fogetcry:
i say i don't hate gays but i think they're heathen sex maniacs :fogetsad:
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Love Letter From Andrew Cunanan
Dear Regie,
I am geared to calamity, fragile as baby teeth. Shards every hour
of a failure to cope with the every day. So much wine, I feel
like I’m flying to Europe and I hate airplanes.
I’ve wanted to speak to you ever since I saw you in “How The Sky Fell”
at The Poets Theater. You were so valley. Your performance, so wicked.
I wanted to kill you. You took an interest in me because I told you I wanted
to be an actor. You never cared about my Barney’s charge card
or the plantations of pineapples my family owns. I got your address
from the Asian American Writer’s Workshop.
I fell in love with you at Mandarin Grill. We sang karaoke,
California Dreaming, remember?
On the drive from New Jersey to Miami, bugs shuck their skeletal husks
& I imagine both of us near-sighted swash-bucklers dangling from a chandelier
of hot sex. I have flashed my dimples like an envious boy. Tantrum habits
I perfected like a castaway.
Let me take a cobalt pencil, make darker you eyelids as I exhale my biography
into you left ear. Pull your hair so my fingers breathe through the strands
of each tussle, our legs be braided & twined like the shaft of a single goblet.
Your shaven blue jaws. Be my rubber ball. My resigned mouse. Let my arms
become ropes that I can tie ‘round your ribs, kiss every angle of your body.
I’m a white fox winding through forested trails of bonded muscle & whorls of musk.
I have composed impossible lyrics for our pelvis.
Fetal and palming I fuck you.
I have told more lies than a psychic hotline.
$23 a minute lies. Embellished truths that pay
for my hotel, saline solution & gasoline.
All I know are the details of condom wrappers
& the jolly music of handcuffs.
Versace was sucking bacon when he saw me. He tried to smoke his way
out of a cordial conversation but I followed him like Magellan. He stretched
& his head split, bullets the size of M&Ms tumbled towards him. Dried icing
on a bride’s face. His lids burst. The marble stairs hemorrhaged sliced, open
to a purple sky, the salt, a mile away. I became witness to his headline . I made
that headline. He popped inside his stupid Bermuda shirt.
My auto is slippery with the fluids of men.
I was footwork & firework when I pulled the trigger.
Take What You Want
After Angel Gonzales
When you have money, buy me a watch.
When you have nothing , clasp your hand
in mine and give me your back
for my pillow
or better yet place your thoughts in a mug
during these
late night hours.
If you’d like, you can climb
with me to the roof
and gaze at an equinox of birds
but don’t say you didn’t know
where you were.
In the morning you’ll write a poem-
a bouquet of words for someone else.
I’ll read it anyhow,
stem by stem
standing in its glass
of holy water.
If you leave, do so
with the speed and delicacy
of your arranged syllables.
Just leave the pitcher,
on the counter, just where it is.
I’ll need something
to hold my tears.
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I'm gonna lock this because it's a really gay topic.
Seriously, though, there's no point in arguing with someone who doesn't understand basic scientific concepts (apparently comparing AIDS infection rates of a social group that historically did not use condoms at all to a group of people who often do is going to lead to skewed results woooaahhhh?!?!!?) and has pre-existing bigoted ideas
this topic has some pretty good chef/mark/dietcoke posts but.......... oh well