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Title: HEROES - Volume 4 - Fugitives
Post by: XxNemesis29xX on February 04, 2009, 06:22:08 am
So here's a new thread for the new volume, in hopes that it'll be better than the last volume!

What did you guys think? I was actually surprised the old thread wasn't updated, since everyone here seems to watch Heroes (why isn't there a LOST thread by the way?!)

I liked the episode, granted it's nothing new. Just another new version of The Company, except they seem to have gone FEDERAL here. But I'm glad Peter is getting his powers back, finally! I hated how he was so powerless last season - the epic hero needs to be... epic! I have a feeling this season might be Prison Break - Season 2 with super powers. But, hope they'll change it up!

Also, Fuller isn't taking over JUST yet. The next few episodes will be in the domain of the old writers I believe, so maybe the next few episodes won't kick ass which sucks, but then again, who knows! Here's to next week!
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Post by: Massy2k6 on February 04, 2009, 09:50:48 am
Im not too sure why but I felt bored through most of the first episode also expecting it to be as bad as Villains. By the end I was feeling pretty good about the show again, it didnt seem too over-the top with powers although this is just the first ep... will have to see what happens later on.

I was confused after watching this episode because there was alot which I just didnt understand or maybe I forgot from the last episode but why doesnt Hiro have any powers? Why does Peter need to touch people now in order to gain their powers instead of just being close to them? Didnt Mohinder lose his strength along with the disease he had when he got washed with the formula from Villains? Anyway so far so good with Fugitives.

Also Nemesis we dont have a lost thread because everyone on here thinks its a stupid show.. personally I love it.
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Post by: Dead Phoenix on February 04, 2009, 05:20:48 pm
I was confused after watching this episode because there was alot which I just didnt understand or maybe I forgot from the last episode but why doesnt Hiro have any powers? Why does Peter need to touch people now in order to gain their powers instead of just being close to them?
Peter's dad took both of their powers, but Peter used the formula to gain his back, though they seem to have changed for some reason.
not sure whats up with Mohinder though
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 04, 2009, 08:27:33 pm
heroes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111oneoneeleven!!!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneeleven
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Post by: xanque on February 07, 2009, 11:43:04 pm
If this season doesn't do well, I can't imagine this show is going to continue on. 

I honestly don't know what they could do to improve it except GET THE FUCK RID OF ALI LARTER HOLY CRAP.
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Post by: Mateui on February 07, 2009, 11:58:48 pm
Yeah, this whole premiere felt EXTREMELY weird. It was all "LET'S JUST FORGET ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE SEASONS PRIOR TO THIS AND MOVE BACK TO OUR NORMAL LIVES AND GO BACK TO HAVING A DAY JOB". Seeing everyone back to work seemed so unrealistic because no one had a job for practically 2 seasons. It just irked me.
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Post by: kcrazy58 on February 08, 2009, 06:44:42 pm
Im not too sure why but I felt bored through most of the first episode also expecting it to be as bad as Villains. By the end I was feeling pretty good about the show again, it didnt seem too over-the top with powers although this is just the first ep... will have to see what happens later on.

I was confused after watching this episode because there was alot which I just didnt understand or maybe I forgot from the last episode but why doesnt Hiro have any powers? Why does Peter need to touch people now in order to gain their powers instead of just being close to them? Didnt Mohinder lose his strength along with the disease he had when he got washed with the formula from Villains? Anyway so far so good with Fugitives.

Also Nemesis we dont have a lost thread because everyone on here thinks its a stupid show.. personally I love it.

I don't get the Peter thing either, my guess is that he used to need to witness people using their powers before mimicing them, but since Mohinder (what happen to the spine and scales?)  wasn't displaying his strength he couldnt mimic the way he used too, but I guess now is power has evolved and now similar to Arthurs in away. Also apparently he can only use one at a time.

Hiro's was stolen by Arthur in the second to last episode, so as of now he is just normal.

And overal I felt this episode was weak, and I think it's going to go the direction of Marvel Civil War.
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Post by: pburn on February 09, 2009, 01:40:30 am
Yeah, this whole premiere felt EXTREMELY weird. It was all "LET'S JUST FORGET ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE SEASONS PRIOR TO THIS AND MOVE BACK TO OUR NORMAL LIVES AND GO BACK TO HAVING A DAY JOB". Seeing everyone back to work seemed so unrealistic because no one had a job for practically 2 seasons. It just irked me.

It's still season 3!!!

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Why does Peter need to touch people now in order to gain their powers instead of just being close to them?
If I'm not mistaken, he got his powers stolen in volume 3, and got a new power by injecting the serum.
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 09, 2009, 01:50:17 am
Yeah IDIOT. It's the VOLUME that's changed not the SEASON. How do you not GET this idiot?
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Post by: pburn on February 09, 2009, 01:56:06 am
Well, that's exactly my point.
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Post by: Mateui on February 09, 2009, 07:25:05 pm
Well, it's clear the the writers are trying to make us (and themselves) forget that volume 3 even happened. They're trying to start anew but it's not working so well at this point (for me at least). I'm going to hold judgment until I see Bryan's stuff. If that still doesn't repair the show then I'm going to lose all hope.

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Yeah IDIOT. It's the VOLUME that's changed not the SEASON. How do you not GET this idiot?
lol
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Post by: Mateui on February 10, 2009, 01:13:39 am
Was that actually a good episode that I just watched, or was I dreaming it?

Let's hope this keeps up, I'm actually looking forward to the next episode.
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on February 10, 2009, 01:40:53 am
Yeah the premiere was kind of weird. Noah's working for the "bad guys" again and Sylars back, just like the past seasons.

So Peter lost his powers even his absorbing power, then found a formula that gave him flight, and he now he also somehow manged to unlock his absorbing power again but a more powerful version of it? That is what he did didn't it? He grabbed Mohinders hand and took his strength?

The only redeeming part of the show was the airplane crashing in slow motion with everyone getting tossed around. Hopefully some of them will die in the crash.
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Post by: Mateui on February 10, 2009, 02:19:14 am
So Peter lost his powers even his absorbing power, then found a formula that gave him flight, and he now he also somehow manged to unlock his absorbing power again but a more powerful version of it? That is what he did didn't it? He grabbed Mohinders hand and took his strength?
Peter's power has now been substantially nerfed (thank goodness!). He can still absorb powers, but now he has to touch a person to get their power, and he can only hold one power at a time. He's much more balanced now.

However, Matt has been buffed. Not only can he still read minds, he can now control people more easily AND can paint the future ala Isaac. I sense a nerfing in his future. I also envision that when Hiro gets his power back it'll be substantially weaker as well OR hopefully Ando will kill him once and for all and we'll be done with him.
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Post by: headphonics on February 10, 2009, 02:49:01 am
still blows
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Post by: headphonics on February 10, 2009, 02:49:42 am
also let's not get in the habit of using buff//nerf in relation to characters.


thanks,
gw administration
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Post by: Ryan on February 10, 2009, 02:51:24 am
hahahaha didn't this get replaced because of obamas press conference?
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Post by: dragonx on February 10, 2009, 02:58:26 am
no

house did

fuck you and steel ryan, fuck you and steel
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Post by: Ryan on February 10, 2009, 02:59:55 am
damn. almost had ONE good thing come out of a black president. guess not.
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Post by: headphonics on February 10, 2009, 03:01:05 am
why is anyone talking about steel
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Post by: Ryan on February 10, 2009, 03:02:34 am
we were on irc at the time i guess. get on irc pands i dont have anyone to talk to
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Post by: headphonics on February 10, 2009, 03:03:15 am
nah, it's a massive timesink.  it's 10x worse than the forums.
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Post by: dragonx on February 10, 2009, 03:07:44 am
no worries i wouldnt want panda on there anyway

he likes blink 182!
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Post by: kcrazy58 on February 10, 2009, 05:56:57 am
Was that actually a good episode that I just watched, or was I dreaming it?

Let's hope this keeps up, I'm actually looking forward to the next episode.

Yeah, I was impressed, last week almost killed it for me, but I kinda like the rebellion thing for now.
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Post by: Vesper on February 10, 2009, 09:56:33 am
hahaha corny to the limit

but to be honest this is the sort of thing i like

:(
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on February 10, 2009, 03:07:49 pm
They should utilize Ando's power more. Matt could kill the entire army at the crash site with Ando' boost.
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Post by: The Dude on February 10, 2009, 06:51:06 pm
Peter's new power (rogue?) sucks, but I guess they made him shitty so Ando can super charge him.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on February 10, 2009, 07:26:36 pm
I didnt like this second ep all that much, Clare must have escaped like 3 times in 10mins... I do like where they are going with the story though, the original heroes all on the run together. Im glad they nerfed Peters power but dont see why they gave Matt Issacs powers, they are two completely different abilites.
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 10, 2009, 09:40:07 pm
I think peter might be too weak in 1v1 scenarios now.. I know heroes isn't supposed to be balanced around 1v1 but who can he beat? Maybe some of the other heroes should be nerfed to bring thme in line

Sylar is still clearly OP. I think he'll be the next to get hit by the Nerf Bat. All the hybrids are too strong but he's the worst, needs a big nerf rly soon
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Post by: Farren on February 10, 2009, 09:50:58 pm
no no no no

matt is clearly overpowered. All we would need for this season to end is ando to follow him around and buff him.  what are you talking about 1v1? I want to see a 3v3 korean style with ando/peter/Nathan vs Sylar/Matt/Ellie

I'm still not sure if that would be good pvp though because matt is pretty overpowered and nathan/peter have been nerfed too much...

what I'm REALLY waiting for is for all of them to clan up and form a raid party into the company and get rid of those fucking botters once and for all
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Post by: dragonx on February 10, 2009, 11:03:28 pm
coxswain for the lars award??

(thinks hes funny but isnt???)
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Post by: pburn on February 10, 2009, 11:09:50 pm
Surprisingly, I liked this new episode. It has some of the magic from the first season in it. Like the new kid who helps Sylar, etc. etc. etc.

I don't know, I'm kinda starting to forget the last two seasons or w/e. Am I the only one who feels this way?
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Post by: Massy2k6 on February 10, 2009, 11:30:42 pm
no no no no

matt is clearly overpowered. All we would need for this season to end is ando to follow him around and buff him.  what are you talking about 1v1? I want to see a 3v3 korean style with ando/peter/Nathan vs Sylar/Matt/Ellie

I'm still not sure if that would be good pvp though because matt is pretty overpowered and nathan/peter have been nerfed too much...

what I'm REALLY waiting for is for all of them to clan up and form a raid party into the company and get rid of those fucking botters once and for all

If I had to guess I'd say you play alot of mmorpgs. All we need now is the tank and healer.
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 10, 2009, 11:57:48 pm
claire and linderman are tank and healer, we need imba dps
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 11, 2009, 12:32:39 am
In fact claire's a tank + healer in one WTF!!!!!
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Post by: fatty on February 11, 2009, 06:45:38 am
sylar is dps + tank combo
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Post by: Massy2k6 on February 11, 2009, 11:05:33 am
sylar is dps + tank combo

Taking down a raid mob like Sylar is gonna require an actual raid... I’m guessing Clare is going to be at the forefront of that attack as main tank when they do eventually decide to take Sylar out for good, Peter would most likely be dps alongside her.. Matt may be used to debuff Sylar giving them a chance to take him down.

You cant take down a raid mob without their being casualties.. my guess is we will lose a Hero during that fight, hopefully Mohinderr.
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Post by: headphonics on February 11, 2009, 11:41:36 am
shuuuuuuuuuuuuut up.  it wasn't funny to begin with!
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 11, 2009, 11:52:55 am
FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 11, 2009, 01:22:10 pm
If you don't like wow don't post in the wow thread, trolls...
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Post by: fatty on February 11, 2009, 04:01:30 pm
ur al damp i h9 u </drunkposting>
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Post by: Mateui on February 11, 2009, 10:04:57 pm
WHAT HAVE I STARTED?!

 :fogetgrr:
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Post by: The Dude on February 12, 2009, 03:56:50 am
My sister seems to think Peter has his dad's power now. Though, if that's true, he must be in the Season 1 version of the power; since the powers grew over time or whatever.

Also, I don't think Matt has Isaac's power. I think the hullicinating african dude is channelling the ability through him.
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Post by: xanque on February 12, 2009, 04:40:55 pm
Is it just me or is Matt starting to look like an Oompa Loompa?
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Post by: The Dude on February 12, 2009, 07:02:12 pm
It's just you.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on February 17, 2009, 01:50:22 pm
This latest episode didn’t do much for me. There was no point to the Hiro and Ando storyline, the swat team should by now realise that shooting Syler in the chest isn’t going to do anything... they were told specifically in the last episode the one and only way to stop him is with a bullet to the back of the head yet they continue to face him head on, they deserved to die.
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on February 17, 2009, 03:07:20 pm
I thought that he was really going to leave the kid behind and actually do the opposite of what you'd expect, which would've been great but he went back for him anyways.
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Post by: dragonx on February 18, 2009, 04:38:50 pm
This latest episode didn’t do much for me. There was no point to the Hiro and Ando storyline, the swat team should by now realise that shooting Syler in the chest isn’t going to do anything... they were told specifically in the last episode the one and only way to stop him is with a bullet to the back of the head yet they continue to face him head on, they deserved to die.

uh if you hadnt noticed they had that all set up


but the kid ruined it!!!!
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Post by: Massy2k6 on February 18, 2009, 05:34:30 pm
uh if you hadnt noticed they had that all set up


but the kid ruined it!!!!

The kid didnt ruin it, he spotted them before they had time to strike... a single sniper hiding across the street would have been enough.
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Post by: dragonx on February 18, 2009, 06:20:20 pm
The kid didnt ruin it, he spotted them before they had time to strike... a single sniper hiding across the street would have been enough.

uh

that woulda been boring??

man what are you boring.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on February 18, 2009, 10:59:02 pm
True, I just cant help but think like that. I hope we see less of Clare in the next episode and more of the other Heroes, Clare has become predictable and boring.
I want to see some of the original Heroes in some real combat,  Mohinder has super strength for example.. watching him throw a car or jumping along rooftops, something! I want to see what they do with Ando, so far we have seen him increase one ability and it would be interesting to see the results of other abilities enhanced by him like Matt who may potentionally be able to affect a whole city with his ability, something like that.
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Post by: pburn on February 19, 2009, 12:33:47 am
Ando is going to supercharge Matt and erase everybodys memories in time for the season 4 reboot.
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Post by: missingno on February 19, 2009, 01:29:26 am
Ando is going to supercharge Matt and erase everybodys memories in time for the season 4 reboot.

maybe then they can erase my memory of ever liking this show b/c now its garbage :welp: :welp: :fogetshrug:
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Post by: NovaGenesis on February 19, 2009, 01:48:56 am
While this volume appears to be better than the last (not hard), its still patchy at best. Clare is the main culprit here, her story is simply the exact same condition respawning over and over again with far too many other characters or important stuff caring or revolving around her. Also the Hiro and Ando story is indeed terrible and dare I say plain ludicrous, even though this is a show about people with MAGIC POWERS it still functions by grounding itself in modern society and barging into a random Indian wedding and calling it off is hilariously stupid and the whole plotline felt more forced than rape.

However, the other characters are watchable at least for now. Sylar, team Peter and Nathan all have interesting stories imo.

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Post by: Dale Gobbler on February 19, 2009, 06:33:29 pm
Claire is going to wind up like future Claire in last season. That's how it seems to be progressing.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on February 24, 2009, 12:49:39 pm
Wow, they went all out with those awesome black and white flashbacks in this latest episode. Best part of this episode would be the fact we didnt spend 42mins watching Clare whine and bitch about everything.
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Post by: Mateui on February 24, 2009, 02:29:45 pm
The episode was just okay for me, but that's by default since it didn't have any Hiro or Sylar in it.
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Post by: The Dude on February 24, 2009, 03:48:29 pm
This is the first episode by the 1st season writers, and I welcome them back. Even if they
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Post by: Shinan on February 24, 2009, 06:12:23 pm
Even if they
That was probably one of the lamest things I've seen in the series. And this series have done a lot of lame stuff.

What makes it worse is that the moment before that was probably one of the best in the series instead... "You know me. I've always been comfortable with morally gray."
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Post by: The Dude on February 24, 2009, 08:35:28 pm
Yeah, they should have ended there, but I guess that was like the old writers tipping their hats, "hey we're back!"?
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Post by: dragonx on February 25, 2009, 12:04:57 am
yeah the episode was good

until nuke, I really liked house last night though it was pretty good
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Post by: Xeno|Soft on February 25, 2009, 12:27:03 am
Why would they want to...imprison someone who can breathe underwater...like wtf can he do? How would you even find out he can breathe under water?
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Post by: The Dude on February 25, 2009, 12:28:17 am
he could sabotague water purification facilities..........
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on February 26, 2009, 02:41:18 am
Season 1 it was the Nuclear explosion. Season 2 it was The Virus. Season 3 it was all powerful villains working together. And now Season4 its.,., another explosion. save nathan and matt and hiro and peter and ando, sa've the wordl'

you know Nathan is going to be hunted just like the rest and is going to regret doing the whole thing in the first place.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on February 26, 2009, 09:30:58 pm
sign my petition, kill Nathan...

... am I mistaken or didn’t he decide in the last season it would be a good idea to give people abilities?.. so now he wants to lock people up with abilities, what’s his plan for the next season I wonder. I have to admit he plays the role of a politician great though, being dumb as fuck... its just perfect.
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Post by: pburn on February 26, 2009, 09:37:27 pm
I thought season 4 was a reboot?
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Post by: dragonx on February 26, 2009, 10:06:56 pm
sign my petition, kill Nathan...

... am I mistaken or didn’t he decide in the last season it would be a good idea to give people abilities?.. so now he wants to lock people up with abilities, what’s his plan for the next season I wonder. I have to admit he plays the role of a politician great though, being dumb as fuck... its just perfect.

no, he wanted to make a specific divison of people with superpowers to combat stuff


then he got b*at up
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Post by: Aten on February 26, 2009, 10:19:46 pm
The funny thing is they were about to give 100+ marines SUPER POWERS and without any form of control, like, place a bomb in their body or something. What if they decided they were "better then everyone else" and decided to rebel after getting powers??
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Post by: The Dude on February 27, 2009, 12:49:58 am
How dare you point out plot holes!!!
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Post by: dragonx on February 27, 2009, 07:02:40 pm
The funny thing is they were about to give 100+ marines SUPER POWERS and without any form of control, like, place a bomb in their body or something. What if they decided they were "better then everyone else" and decided to rebel after getting powers??

They Were Marines.
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Post by: xanque on February 27, 2009, 09:46:28 pm
sign my petition, kill Nathan...

... am I mistaken or didn’t he decide in the last season it would be a good idea to give people abilities?.. so now he wants to lock people up with abilities, what’s his plan for the next season I wonder. I have to admit he plays the role of a politician great though, being dumb as fuck... its just perfect.
Yeah, he even had the god complex like so many dumb shit republicans.

It was nice to see in the last episode that the season seems to be going somewhere, but this show suffers from one major flaw: there doesn't seem to be any end in sight.  What is making Lost so great right now is everyone knows it's getting closer to the end.  If the writers of Heroes would make it clear that it's going SOMEWHERE, it would be so much better.  I'm not saying they need to announce there are only going to be so many seasons, but we need a definitive enemy, or some kind of theme to tie everything together. 

But the plot just keeps bouncing around without any kind of apparent aim.  What is it that the characters want?  That's like basic fiction crap, and they can't even manage it.
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on February 27, 2009, 10:14:46 pm
They want to live normal lives. Nathan is preventing this. Soon the hardass that's working for Nathan will be the main bad guy, and all the "Heroes" Nathan included, will try to take him how. And Noah will be working for the hardass guy to further gain his trust until he can end up trying to take him and the whole operation down.
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Post by: The Dude on February 27, 2009, 11:29:15 pm
Nathan is trying to stop the Sylars of the world from happening, and Sylar is always lingering in the background as the series' main villain. Kill Sylar, and the series is over.
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Post by: missingno on March 04, 2009, 02:56:02 am
okay so!!!

the show is slowly getting better and better—it's hard to just FORGET EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED for the past two volumes, but if you do then the show is watchable again. it still has a lot of huge flaws but i'm finding it ENTERTAINING again and not just "ugh another episode of heroes"

so yeah the latest episode was pretty solid. i don't really get the but it was predictable that he and claire were gonna do some smoochin. better than sharing an ipod on the couch or w/e like she did with that loser west. the TERRORIST shit is a bit extreme but whatever at least it seems like there's some sort of actual plot now insteadof just PEOPLE LOOK THEY HAVE POWERS. glad to go a few episodes without nikki/tracy/whatever.

sylar's story is SLOW and boring as hell, but i get that they're trying to RECREATE his backstory after it was so horribly butchered in the past two volumes. at the end of this episode and i like how it seems like the sides are getting switched up and shit.

still don't have too much hope for the show overall but the quality has definitely improved over the past couple of episodes.
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Post by: The Dude on March 04, 2009, 03:19:57 am
the last episode had a lot of content, and kept me interested; but is Clair going to be some sort of underground railroad?
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Post by: Ryan on March 04, 2009, 03:27:23 am
I'd ride a train on her.
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Post by: The Dude on March 04, 2009, 03:42:40 am
well, she DOES get around.
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Post by: Xeno|Soft on March 07, 2009, 04:48:51 am
she is the most annoying character...but at least that guys powers finaly came in handy for something.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on March 07, 2009, 10:24:31 am
I honestly thought Clare was going to take him to the ocean where he would live out the remainder of his days as a fish.
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Post by: xanque on March 08, 2009, 08:05:25 pm
Where did that fish guy come from?  I honestly don't remember him being in the previous episode, but I know I watched it. 

Is he that forgettable? 

And why are they bringing in new characters?  Why isn't Nikki dead yet?
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Post by: dragonx on March 10, 2009, 02:05:43 am
well xanqui you really dont seem to watch this show
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Post by: XxNemesis29xX on March 10, 2009, 07:08:37 am
actually really liked this last episode! Things actually happened, I'm looking forward to the next one! Sylar rocks.
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on March 10, 2009, 06:03:50 pm
Sylars pep pep better go after him and try to steal his powers. Just when I think they've got their special effects back to a semi-believeable state, then they throw another horrible flying special effect.
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Post by: big ass skelly on March 10, 2009, 06:20:43 pm
The only special effect that's ever been done well in heroes was hiro stopping time in the first series where they made a point of only doing it where a fruit stand gets knocked over or something.
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on March 10, 2009, 06:25:25 pm
Idk I think a lot of the special effects look good, but they don't look good in the scene as you can kind of tell by the way the actors act that it was all digital. but the flying is lay/stand on a green screen while we pan away.
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Post by: pburn on March 10, 2009, 09:47:33 pm
How the hell did they finally put together an episode that was you know, watchable, not entirely cringeworthy and with shit that actually happens?

Congratulations Heroes!
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Post by: Mateui on March 10, 2009, 10:16:19 pm
How the hell did they finally put together an episode that was you know, watchable, not entirely cringeworthy and with shit that actually happens?

Congratulations Heroes!
I believe that this was the first episode that Fuller had a hand in guiding. Starting from next week he's going to be credited as a writer.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on March 10, 2009, 10:55:14 pm
It was an ok episode but I was disappointed with Sylars dad, I was expecting allot more than the generic "life gets boring" speech and I would have thought if he use to steal peoples abilities then surely he would have discovered the existence or come across somebody with a healing ability. I’m sure Sylar is going to live to regret not killing his dad who will most likely come back to bite him in the ass. Lets not forget Hiro, they seriously need to move his story along.. its too slow, doesn’t make much sense and feels pointless most the time.
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Post by: headphonics on March 11, 2009, 11:08:05 pm
How the hell did they finally put together an episode that was you know, watchable, not entirely cringeworthy and with shit that actually happens?

Congratulations Heroes!
hey i actually thought the same.  i still watch the show because i get a laugh out of watching bad things but this past episode was noticeably LESS BAD.  i would even go so far as to say it went beyond being bad and into the realms of mediocre/watchable.  i mean there was still the gay shit like WHAT KINDA HERO ARE YOU.....HEH but there was a lot less of it!
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Post by: The Dude on March 16, 2009, 03:05:50 am
That's because Peter wasn't in it. :P
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on March 24, 2009, 01:35:38 am
Wow. I had no idea that you know who was rebel, it didn't dawn on me since . I did think about him though when I saw Matts babby doin' his thing.
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Post by: Cheesy Doritos on March 24, 2009, 02:29:37 am
I thought this was a pretty good episode!
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Post by: dragonx on March 24, 2009, 02:42:18 am
man that ep really had me

i was like "FUCK YOU MATT CANNOT FLY FUCK THIS SHIT"

then she died

then i was like...ohhh.....
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Post by: Massy2k6 on March 24, 2009, 11:31:41 am
I knew he was going to be rebel for a while now, c'mon... rebel only ever used computers, hacked and spoke through them.. we havnt been introduced to anyone else who can do this.
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Post by: Standard Toaster on March 24, 2009, 06:29:30 pm
man that ep really had me

i was like "FUCK YOU MATT CANNOT FLY FUCK THIS SHIT"

then she died

then i was like...ohhh.....
yea when he started i came up with this crazy theory that matt was actually an empath which is why he could do that whole painting thing and then he would have gotten mind control from his dad

but that would be really dumb so i'm glad they went the way they did

edit: finally made that terrible flying effect work to their advantage
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Post by: bible_basher on March 24, 2009, 06:57:38 pm
this is not a spoiler since you probably know this
they fucked up rebel imo. i mean of course you called it some time ago but seriously i was hoping for something better than 12 YEAR OLD KID HELPIN REBELLIONSSSSSSS. though this episode was pretty tolerable apart from that pet peeve.
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Post by: big ass skelly on March 24, 2009, 07:16:33 pm
I presumed it was some adult with mica's help. Whatever, pretty good ep by heroes standards
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on March 24, 2009, 11:04:35 pm
How did they make the terrible flying effect work to their advantage? That was probably the worst one yet. "Stand on Matts feet in front of a  green screen." Lois & Clark had better looking "romantic" flying scenes and it came out in the early 90's.
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Post by: Standard Toaster on March 24, 2009, 11:48:48 pm
How did they make the terrible flying effect work to their advantage? That was probably the worst one yet. "Stand on Matts feet in front of a  green screen." Lois & Clark had better looking "romantic" flying scenes and it came out in the early 90's.
because it was all supposed to be fake?
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Post by: Massy2k6 on March 25, 2009, 03:07:43 pm
Yeah the flying scene was terrible, I couldn’t bare to watch... but then he decides to fly to the moon, oh god!

There has only been one good flying scene from what I can remember and that was from season 1 when Nathan escapes from Noah and the black guy while in the hospital gown. Although thinking about it now, how did he use his abilities so close to that black guy, shrug... I better not start!
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Post by: XxNemesis29xX on March 25, 2009, 11:11:42 pm
I thought Peter exploding and then catching Nathan flying back to NYC at the end of Season 1 flying was cool.
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Post by: The Dude on March 28, 2009, 03:09:51 pm
That episode was so awesome! Fucking sweet to have Hiro back! And Rebel is gr8! But what about cold chick. He didn't shoot her head, can she melt back together like T-1000? She freaking winked. What's that about?
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Post by: Standard Toaster on March 28, 2009, 03:50:34 pm
That episode was so awesome! Fucking sweet to have Hiro back! And Rebel is gr8! But what about cold chick. He didn't shoot her head, can she melt back together like T-1000? She freaking winked. What's that about?
i'm guessing she's evolved to the point of someone like iceman from the xmen where basically they can turn completely into ice and as long as there is water around they can reform themselves.
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Post by: Mateui on March 29, 2009, 01:34:51 am
She didn't wink actually, it was a tear. But regardless, it shows that she's not dead and will be back. I'm still sick of Hiro and how annoying he is. When will he become future Hiro, the one that was actually mature and not all "Kai! ^_^!! SAAVE BABY! *nose scrunch"? Not soon enough apparently.
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on March 31, 2009, 03:42:56 pm
Good episode. Sylar's back his his old "killing people to take powers" self. Though I don't know why he wants to team up with the guy. Especially now that he's a shapeshifter, he can get all the information he wants about which people have powers now.
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Post by: Standard Toaster on March 31, 2009, 06:28:19 pm
Good episode. Sylar's back his his old "killing people to take powers" self. Though I don't know why he wants to team up with the guy. Especially now that he's a shapeshifter, he can get all the information he wants about which people have powers now.
if he works with the dude it lets him take all the powers that he would have missed if they kept killing/incapacitating people.
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Post by: The Dude on April 01, 2009, 10:52:50 am
plus I have this nagging feeling that the fbi dude has a power. There's got to be a reason he hates people with abilities so much. Maybe we'll find out. Only a few episodes this season left! So maybe there's more in store for fbi dude next season, or he's offed soon.
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Post by: Grunthor on April 02, 2009, 12:54:29 am
I'm still sick of Hiro and how annoying he is. When will he become future Hiro, the one that was actually mature and not all "Kai! ^_^!! SAAVE BABY! *nose scrunch"? Not soon enough apparently.

I don't think he will ever become that Hiro from the future.  They altered his future when they saved NYC from blowing up in the first season.  Not to mention Hiro traveled into the future and saw himself being killed by Ando.  Either way, I like Hiro the way he is.  He's exactly the way I think a comic book nerd would act if he suddenly gained super powers, and he provides some much needed comic relief.
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on April 07, 2009, 03:54:45 am
Sylars shapeshifting seems to be just another lame plot device. Every single scene I thought at least one person talking was Sylar. hint: Matts babby is sylar. Though the manipulation of peoples personal lives is pretty intense so far.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on April 08, 2009, 11:57:56 am
Didnt like this latest episode, we had to put up with Hiro and Ando on their crazy adventure again. The ending of the episode was so borring, she tells them to dig... ok so after the first skelly I think its time to explain whats going on but no, she wants them to dig up every skeleton first wtf.

Nathans mother -->"This is where it all began, this is our beginning"

...errm, didnt they say this crap when it was all about the formula?
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on April 08, 2009, 11:29:32 pm
I forgot what happened during "the formula" season, but maybe she was talking about how the formula came about. This is about what happened many years ago with like their grandfathers/great grandfathers and Angela when she was a kid and stuff. Looks like the all got executed. Maybe because they all had powers and got killed for it (except Angela escaped because she saw it coming). Maybe Sylars dad killed them, who knows.

EDIT: I think Nikki/Tracy is the chick from Final Destination
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Post by: Massy2k6 on April 14, 2009, 05:22:07 pm
This latest episode was terrible, the cheesy flashbacks and the long lost tramp sister oh and apparently Sylar can morph into people he has yet to touch, I suppose its plausible because he must have touched him before he even gained the morphing ability... nothing wrong with that at all.
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Post by: dragonx on April 14, 2009, 05:56:44 pm
i dunno i found this episode really touching
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Post by: Standard Toaster on April 14, 2009, 08:52:42 pm
the episode barely moved the plot, or anything, at all. pretty much the only interesting part for me was the end where i'm wondering if this will lead to the future where sylar is president etc
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on April 14, 2009, 10:25:44 pm
It was kind of cool to know how and where the company began though. I guess the black guy that Angela danced with was the guy from season 1 that talked to Peter when he went back in time. the funniest scene is when everyone panicked and Angelas dad raised his hand and waves came from it.
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Post by: XxNemesis29xX on April 15, 2009, 03:11:14 am
this last episode was... pure garbage. Hated it. Usually I don't find episodes that bad, but just terrible.

I feel like Peter is no longer the main character, and there's NOTHING happening with the story.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on April 15, 2009, 09:10:23 am
this last episode was... pure garbage. Hated it.

Thank you
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Post by: fatty on April 15, 2009, 12:19:03 pm
I really wish Danko has a power for some reason.
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Post by: dragonx on April 15, 2009, 09:23:20 pm
i dont understand guys

what do you want from them? more VIRUS or SUPER SOLDIERS geez

give the show a break
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Post by: bible_basher on April 15, 2009, 09:24:36 pm
danko's powers were the result of chernobyl.
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Post by: headphonics on April 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm
oh that was angela's dad?  i didnt know he had a power too

w/e it wasnt very good, but they never are.  this one suffered from the stupid melodrama that always leads up to anything (we need to go to................whatever the fuck that place was called).  the show is really too dramatic to be taken seriously.  comics suffer from this too.  anyway at least they tried to do something beyond normal with this ep but similar to lars and the real girl instead of being touching it just ended up being weird and kind of awful.

it was also a really half-assed way to explain the origin of THE COMPANY or whatever.  it was just some garbage backstory that doesnt even really click just so they can have something to lead up to four people saying "never.....never again. ...."
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Post by: XxNemesis29xX on April 21, 2009, 08:14:53 am
with 1961 being the worst episode of the show, I AM SYLAR was one of the best! If you gave up on the show after last week's episode, give it a chance and watch this episode. It was pretty badass!

By the way, isn't PETER the main character of the show? Where the hell has he been this season. He hasn't done a single thing, that kinda sucks.
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on April 21, 2009, 02:15:03 pm
Yep p. good episode. So when and how did Angela give him the ability to see the past thoughts or whatever of any object he touches?
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Post by: xanque on April 21, 2009, 02:21:15 pm
That was an awesome episode.  Sylar is the best part of the show.
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Post by: Grunthor on April 21, 2009, 03:15:10 pm
Yep p. good episode. So when and how did Angela give him the ability to see the past thoughts or whatever of any object he touches?


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Post by: fatty on April 21, 2009, 03:40:31 pm
Sylar transformed into his mother and started a conversation with himself. What.
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Post by: dragonx on April 21, 2009, 04:59:15 pm
more sylar eps

more sylar eps plf
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Post by: Mateui on April 22, 2009, 12:28:54 am
Why won't they just kill Sylar?!

I have this bad feeling that in the next episode/series finale, Sylar will end up killing Ando, and in the process lose most of his ability just to de-power him and make it easier on the writers to write stuff for him. They obviously love Sylar too much to kill him off, so they need to pull a Peter on him to make him less invulnerable.

The show is getting very tiring for me - I can't believe that if there are so many people out there with abilities that the press isn't reporting it. I just want the show to go beyond the plotpoint of "we can't let people know about us" or "we have to round up all Heroes so that no one knows of them" and into something different. At this point I'd prefer a Fantastic Four set up where the general public knows that certain people have powers and accepts them - and then we could have hero vs hero fights, instead of hero VS mysterious company/FBI/whatever setups.
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Post by: Standard Toaster on April 22, 2009, 04:26:51 am
why would they kill sylar? he's easily one of the best if not the best character on the show
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Post by: dragonx on April 22, 2009, 05:12:24 am
why would they kill sylar? he's easily one of the best if not the best character on the show

or even the only character on the show


if you...catch my drift
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Post by: headphonics on April 22, 2009, 07:09:26 am
oh is the show ending this season?  probably for the best
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Post by: pburn on April 23, 2009, 11:34:22 pm
oh is the show ending this season?  probably for the best
Nah, they ordered more I think..
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Post by: big ass skelly on April 24, 2009, 01:32:28 am
Yeah where'd you read that headphonix? Who's your source
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Post by: Grunthor on April 25, 2009, 03:02:13 am
Season four is being cut down to 18 episodes.

Yahoo TV (http://tv.yahoo.com/heroes/show/39435/news/urn:newsml:tv.tvguide.com:20090423:1005392__ER:1)
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Post by: The Dude on April 28, 2009, 08:52:37 am
why would they kill sylar? he's easily one of the best if not the best character on the show

They didn't kill him. He's inside Nathan now. They can break that anytime they want.

EDIT:
Too bad about the shorter season. Quantity < Quality though, so we'll see. Maybe it'll just go down in glory instead of season 2 shame.
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Post by: bible_basher on April 28, 2009, 11:33:21 am
next season looks pretty shit though, i don't have much hopes for it.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on April 28, 2009, 02:27:24 pm
Im suprised we are even getting another season after the one we just had, sure it had its good moments but most of it was trash. I doubt Sylar is going to stay the way he is for very long, I was so glad to see they killed Nathan off but I should have known he wasnt going to stay dead for very long.. less than 15mins infact. Hopefully in the next series Sylar takes control and we wont have to see Nathan ever again. Also im a little confused with the end where we saw blondy take her form from water, is that the ice sister or have they sunk another level and actually put in a third identicle sister?
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Post by: Standard Toaster on April 28, 2009, 04:44:27 pm
Im suprised we are even getting another season after the one we just had, sure it had its good moments but most of it was trash. I doubt Sylar is going to stay the way he is for very long, I was so glad to see they killed Nathan off but I should have known he wasnt going to stay dead for very long.. less than 15mins infact. Hopefully in the next series Sylar takes control and we wont have to see Nathan ever again. Also im a little confused with the end where we saw blondy take her form from water, is that the ice sister or have they sunk another level and actually put in a third identicle sister?
there was always a third identical sister dude, we just hadn't seen her yet.
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Post by: bible_basher on April 28, 2009, 07:12:06 pm
no the third sister(jessica) is dead. that was tracy.

also why didn't they just use claire's blood to heal nathan and kill sylar. this kind of bugs me!
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Post by: Standard Toaster on April 28, 2009, 08:37:09 pm
no the third sister(jessica) is dead. that was tracy.

also why didn't they just use claire's blood to heal nathan and kill sylar. this kind of bugs me!
nah jessica wasn't the third sister. there was the original one (forgot her name), tracy, and barbara. it was revealed in the third season i think. jessica was the original's adopted sister who didn't have any powers i'm pretty sure.
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Post by: MBlack on April 28, 2009, 08:46:52 pm
nah jessica wasn't the third sister. there was the original one (forgot her name), tracy, and barbara. it was revealed in the third season i think. jessica was the original's adopted sister who didn't have any powers i'm pretty sure.

Yep, Jessica is Niki's younger sister, who died and became Niki's alter ego.  Barbara is the third triplet along with Tracy and Niki.  They mentioned her, but she's never made an official appearance.

As for the season finale: I liked it up until they made Sylar Nathan. Its obvious the writers were just looking for a way not to kill Sylar.  Parkman could easily make the president believe anything he wants to (hell, put him on live TV, and like the Hypnotoad, he'll have the entire nation eating out of his hand). However, in that scenario there's no reason to keep Sylar alive.  Needless to say, I won't be surprised when Sylar remembers who he is in Volume 5.

Why won't they just kill Sylar?!

I have this bad feeling that in the next episode/series finale, Sylar will end up killing Ando, and in the process lose most of his ability just to de-power him and make it easier on the writers to write stuff for him. They obviously love Sylar too much to kill him off, so they need to pull a Peter on him to make him less invulnerable.

I'm with you - like Peter, they made Sylar too powerful too soon.  But if they can find a way to evolve him beyond an amoral, ability-taking psychopath then I wouldn't mind if they keep him.  And god help them if Star Trek grosses like 300mil, because Zachary Quinto will leave Heroes in a heartbeat.
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Post by: pburn on April 28, 2009, 08:54:12 pm
I'm with you - like Peter, they made Sylar too powerful too soon.  But if they can find a way to evolve him beyond an amoral, ability-taking psychopath then I wouldn't mind if they keep him.  And god help them if Star Trek grosses like 300mil, because Zachary Quinto will leave Heroes in a heartbeat.
Contracts bro.
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Post by: big ass skelly on April 29, 2009, 01:42:21 am
Oh. Em. Gee!!! I loved this ep. Nathan and Peter were sooooo brave when they went to fight sylar and all the blue flashes sent shivers down my spine! For a second I thought sylar was going to kill obama but peter was too smart for him. GO PETER!! Cant wait for volume 5 (don't you hate it when people call it season 5?? I mean come ON).... I hope sylar doesn't stay as nathan too long.. sylars much sexier :blush:
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Post by: Mateui on April 29, 2009, 03:38:03 am
Will Heroes ever be good again?

I'll let Angela answer that:
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Post by: Xeno|Soft on April 30, 2009, 07:16:05 pm
so what happened to the bald guy? weren't they hinting something abnormal about him? esp when Angela was talking to him about his past and asking him how he survived some bullshit in some African country?
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on April 30, 2009, 07:30:25 pm
Hmm, won't Nathan be a little surprised when he can't die? Sylar moving his "spot" was kind of stupid. He can move a part of his brain or spine or whatever without any ill effects? You know that head that was on my shoulders?... I moved it.
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Post by: Standard Toaster on April 30, 2009, 10:14:06 pm
He can move a part of his brain or spine or whatever without any ill effects?

it might have ill effects, we don't know yet. i mean it is like PHYSICALLY PAINFUL for him to shape shift but i dont know if thats it
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Post by: xanque on May 01, 2009, 03:05:39 am
Wow, the last episode wasn't too bad!  Characters were making smart decisions for the first time in a while.