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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Jr on February 04, 2009, 10:35:43 am
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Well Im suprised no-ones made a topic of this awesome looking game.For those who haven't heard about it here is some info.
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/4/939394_87369_front.jpeg)
The story takes place in some world of ruin.
two gods have been fighting for eons.
Chaos the god of discord
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Cosmos the god of Harmony
until Chaos summoned a number of villains from other universes to serve him
the two gods had a huge battle the little number of survivers from the good side have
joined forces to conquer the evil left in the universe and return order.
As you may or may not know the game takes main characters from all the Final Fantasies (not XII for some reason :welp:) and puts them all as playable characters the few youtube videos I saw looked terrific Onion knight vs cloud of Darkness being my Favourite.(http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/pp310/Laharl/1.jpg)
Here are some screenshots:
(http://ui29.gamefaqs.com/1436/gfs_87369_2_4.jpg) (http://ui18.gamefaqs.com/273/gfs_87369_2_10.jpg)
P.S this is Bartz looks gay dosn't he
(http://ui24.gamefaqs.com/215/gfs_87369_2_11.jpg) (http://ui13.gamefaqs.com/1740/gfs_87369_2_45.jpg)
The game features:
Some of the best graphics I have seen in awhile on the PSP.
All your favorite characters from final fantasy.
a variety of game play modes.
Detailed and large stages(one for each character I think)
RPG Elements such as equiping weapons and selecting magic.
new costumes such as advent children cloud.
Well I would like to know your thoughts on this game and for those who played the japanese edition how was it? :naughty:
I'm having trouble deciding if I should import it or just wait for the US release June 30th Seriously why so late :fogetcry:.
- JR
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:blarg:
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This game is so ridiculous.... I have to buy it on principle alone.
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This game is so ridiculous.... I have to absolutely hate it on principle alone.
more like
But yeah this is some giant piece of trash
More god damned kh/peter pan fan fiction where everybody flies around magically and all that shit
I also love FF characters so much I'd buy this just for them
srsly
Even Brawl had a better fanfiction story than this, seriously. It was like this 10 year old's dream fanfiction story where all his guys got together, hated each other and then became friends to take down the ugly bad guys.
This is like a 20 year old furry faggot's fanfiction where everybody somehow warps together and ask each other philosophical questions and cry for no reason while still somehow fighting baddies
Actually these both suck. Fuck.
but yeah idk if it's because I'm retarded or more because I am NOT, but I can't understand fights in this game at all
way too much flying and warping and pew pew pew pew graaaaaagh wwooooow pew pew pew pew
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The only fight that I thought was too much flying was the cloud vs sephiroth one all they did was stand one meter away and start shooting balls of energy.
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this looks terribly stupid.
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BUTZ VS CLOUD MY DREAM COME ALIVE
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I don't get it, how exactly do you beat your opponent? because it looks to me that it's just like Super Smash Brawl, I don't see a HP bar or anything, anyone care to explain?
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(http://ui29.gamefaqs.com/1436/gfs_87369_2_4.jpg)
I don't know FF characters so this is probably someone else (all these chars look the same anyway) but this really looks like Sephiroth but wearing some sort of thong ensemble.
If this really is him, it's finally time to shut Square Enix down. It's been time for years now, but this is THE ONE that is just too much.
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I don't know FF characters so this is probably someone else (all these chars look the same anyway) but this really looks like Sephiroth but wearing some sort of thong ensemble.
If this really is him, it's finally time to shut Square Enix down. It's been time for years now, but this is THE ONE that is just too much.
It's Kuja. From FF9. he was androgynous and shitty back in the PSX days.
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BUTZ VS CLOUD MY DREAM COME ALIVE
I think u mean Terra vs Kefka :sly:
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It's Kuja. From FF9. he was androgynous and shitty back in the PSX days.
So basically he's Sephiroth in a thong.
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So basically he's Sephiroth in a thong.
No he isn't, he is way cooler then he will ever will be. If he didn't wear a thong he would be in the position of Sephiroth but oh well :welp:
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I haven't played this game, but one thing that isn't disappointing is the soundtrack. Even though they are mostly arranges, SE apparently still knows not to take a dump on their music. But yeah this is just SE (as usual) milking from the FF franchise.
Also is that Zidane in pink. Please tell me they did not just do that.
By the way there was a topic on this like 2 months ago, I don't know why you made another.
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Played it, it is... Really horrible. It is a really crappy button masher fighting game where every character has about... 4 attacks (when I say button masher I mean, you will mash the circle button for the entire fight, you could close your eyes and win provided you keep hitting the circle button).
Oh yeah, the physics in the game are even more horrible than you people have probably seen. Pretty much every attack combo you land sends the enemy flying like 100 ft into the air, when this happens time slows down, and you can jump 100ft into the air after them, then attack them. But they can evade that attack, and then they get an attack against you (which is stupidly easy to evade), and then you get an attack against them, and this repeats until an attack actually hits. The worst part it, it looks so much more stupid than it sounds, whenever a character evades an attack they will do a silly looking backflip. So you end up having both characters magically floating in the air, taking it in turns doing backflips for about 5 minutes.
It is basically Final Fantasy Advent Children, the game. Unless you are a major Final Fantasy fanboy, you wont like it. It's gameplay is incredibly shallow, and gets repetative very quickly.
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Also is that Zidane in pink. Please tell me they did not just do that.
By the way there was a topic on this like 2 months ago, I don't know why you made another.
He is in "manly" trance mode :fogetlaugh:
Played it, it is... Really horrible. It is a really crappy button masher fighting game where every character has about... 4 attacks (when I say button masher I mean, you will mash the circle button for the entire fight, you could close your eyes and win provided you keep hitting the circle button).
so it is like Brawl :fogetlaugh:
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I beat this game without equipping any item. I am glad I haven't learned Japanese yet because I would be bored to death listening about how much KOSUMOSU loves me and how much KAOSU hates me and how I need to defeat his burning ass.
EDIT: Also, I like the fact that it has naked anthropomorphic ladies.
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This is actually very disappointing. I was hoping it played out like a sort of KH on the go at the very least.
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Played it, it is... Really horrible. It is a really crappy button masher fighting game where every character has about... 4 attacks (when I say button masher I mean, you will mash the circle button for the entire fight, you could close your eyes and win provided you keep hitting the circle button).
lies! you mash circle until you have enough brave to kill them with a single square attack.
also the back and fourth air fight only last a couple attacks before ending on its own.
that said, yes its a shitty fighter and SE should feel bad for having made it... instead there will be several sequels and eventually spin-offs(of a spin-off?).
If you like KH, this is the game for you chainer
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Apparently they haven't learned from their last attempt, Ehrgeiz.
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The only thing I liked about KH was the awful dialogue and storyline. The only SE games I bought in the last 5 years where KHs and FFX-2 (though I have yet to unwrap FFX-2). I was kind of hoping this was on par with KH... but it seems that Dissidia is so bad it isn't even playable for ironic reasons.
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The only thing I liked about KH was the awful dialogue and storyline. The only SE games I bought in the last 5 years where KHs and FFX-2 (though I have yet to unwrap FFX-2). I was kind of hoping this was on par with KH... but it seems that Dissidia is so bad it isn't even playable for ironic reasons.
That's the problem with software companies, and people who play certain games "not because I like them, but it's ironic that way", the software companies keep making the games because they are getting sales from people who play it ironically, then they think they can take it further with each release until they reach the exact threshold needed to lose their "ironically" devoted section of their market.
It's bad for games, and if it's bad for games it's bad for humanity.
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Most people who play games ironically either buy them years and years after they're made (when it's become obvious they aren't buying them for legit reasons) or they pirate them. I don't know anyone that pays full price on an ironic game, so I don't think it does much to the industry at all.
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That's the problem with software companies, and people who play certain games "not because I like them, but it's ironic that way", the software companies keep making the games because they are getting sales from people who play it ironically, then they think they can take it further with each release until they reach the exact threshold needed to lose their "ironically" devoted section of their market.
It's bad for games, and if it's bad for games it's bad for humanity.
I am not responsible for patent mongering and vaporware (hint: wii and ds). I am not the one hurting the industry just because I chose to buy a few games that are amazingly bad. If it where up to my demo these games wouldn't have even been made because they would make no money from us. The real demo this appeals to, the fanboys and girls, they are the ones doing the actual damage, because they are the ones who facilitated this type of shit in the first place.
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It's Kuja. From FF9. he was androgynous and shitty back in the PSX days.
To be fair, he was androgynous and creepy in the confines of the game world, too. The other characters in the game would comment on how effeminate he looked and that it creeped them out.
Also this game looks terrible! I am a Final Fantasy superfan, so I guess I am the target audience, but this is stupid.
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I think it's a neat idea on their part to try and make something like this. I mean...for true fans it would be kind of cool to see your favorite characters duke it out, but I wish they would add more then just the main character and main villan. I mean...where the hell is Rydia!? Or even Selphie!? Damn...
Although I don't have a PSP, I would probably of picked this game up, sure it's stupid as hell...but hey! It's just a game, hopefully they make another one. Perhaps they need to make it less then a button masher, but then again so is Smash.
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I hate how ff went to shit but I'll probably buy this because I have a psp and there aren't too many rpgs with it.
It will probably piss me off like the last one with zach chrono whatever. it was fucking terrible but when I start playing a game (especially if I bought it) I can't stop. it would have to be really really terrible for me to stop playing it.
I think the last game I quit playing it because it was so bad was that shitty hack and slash with all the norse mythology and cyborgs. It was so goddamn dumb I couldn't even enjoy it fucked up...
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I hate how ff went to shit but I'll probably buy this because I have a psp and there aren't too many rpgs with it.
But... It's not a RPG, it is a fighting game... A really crappy fighting game. (If you wanted good PSP RPGs... You shouldn't have wasted the money on a PSP, all the good PSP RPGs are basically ports of Playstation RPGs, and with a half decent PC you can emulate them anyway).
Anyway, tried playing it again. The game is easy, way to easy. Each of the 10 good guys has a storyline with a difficulty rating from 1 to 5 stars. I just completed a 4 star storyline in like 10-15 minutes, without dying once... Actually, I don't think I even got hit once.
Also... Ugghhh... This game feels like some sort of campy, flamboyant Gackt simulator... Just playing it makes me feel really gay, the only way they could have made it gayer was if Vaan was a playable character (or they added more belts and zippers). This game is clearly aimed at fangirls, since there is only one female character in the entire game, and most of the other characters are 90% of the other characters are tones, slightly muscular guys that are proud of showing off their well oiled abs... They pretty much all look like girly men as well. I feel really gay for some reason!
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oh then I probably won't get it unless I can play it on the internet. I'll prolly just try to steal it...
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HAHAHA LOOK AT THIS GAME
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$$$
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oh then I probably won't get it unless I can play it on the internet. I'll prolly just try to steal it...
you can play it on the internet... if you have a ps3 or x-link kai on your pc.
also there are 4 female characters in the game... you just have to unlock the other 3. I've only really played as Terra and she's a long range character so i just end up staring at her ass most fights.
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(http://ui13.gamefaqs.com/1740/gfs_87369_2_45.jpg)
Who is this and why is he nude?
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i was gonna say, that bitch gotta hairy camel toe.
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That is Zidane suffering from third degree burns and estrogen overdose.
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The game recieved pretty good score in Japan and people who imported it seemed to enjoy it as well. Don't be so negative just because it's a weird Final Fantasy title.
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The game recieved pretty good score in Japan
No kidding.
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No kidding.
... well duh, of course it would get positive score in Japan, but if you read the rest you would have realized that people outside of the country liked it as well.
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The people who took the time to import it were planning on giving it a good review years before the idea was ever thought up
The second they said "FF fighting game" it got a 10/10 in their heads.
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The people who took the time to import it were planning on giving it a good review years before the idea was ever thought up
The second they said "FF fighting game" it got a 10/10 in their heads.
Yeah... because liking Final Fantasy is retarded. No way can it be good...
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You'll all play it in the end... and this will be you:
(http://ui28.gamespot.com/1915/kuja_2.jpg)
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I will never ever play this game, sorry
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I think he's saying that the only way not to like Dissidia is if you aren't an FF fan.
I thought I was still a fan of FFIV, IV, VIII, and IX (though to a lesser extent), but I guess I must hate it if I didn't get roped into liking Dissident for what it intended to be instead of what I think it is.
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I think he's saying that the only way not to like Dissidia is if you aren't an FF fan.
If the post was directed to me: Never said anything like that at all. I simply mentioned that the game has been getting positive praise by the people who actually played it, japanese or not. People on this board tend to go with the argument such as this to counter it:
The people who took the time to import it were planning on giving it a good review years before the idea was ever thought up
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Liman remember that is cool now to hate Final Fantasy. If you do not that means you're not cool LOL.
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IT'S A SHITTY FUCKING SERIES ABOUT A BUNCH OF ANIME PEOPLE SO DENSE AND FLIMSY I WOULDN'T HIRE ANY OF THEM TO OPERATE AS A SNEEZE GUARD AT GOLDEN CORRAL (I AM AWARE THAT DENSITY AND FLIMSINESS SEEM TO BE OPPOSITE CHARACTERISTICS BUT IF YOU ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GAME YOU DO NOT HAVE A VOCABULARY ANYWAY).
IT'S NOT JUST WE DON'T THINK IT'S COOL IT'S THAT WE AREN'T EIGHT.
READ A FUCKING BOOK YOU UNBELIEVABLE CHILD.
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Hey dude, you play this game for fun, not because of the story. I mean it's a fucking fighting game dude.
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Hey dude, you play this game for fun, not because of the story. I mean it's a fucking fighting game dude.
That's true, but it's also impossible to do that if everything still makes your brain melt when you try to play the game.
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Yeah, but I am not even talking about that, I am talking about the fact that you are not supposed to play this game because of the story, but because of the gameplay, even if it is bad.
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From what people here have said it's just a button masher with FF slapped over it. What's so fun about that, especially considering you could play the exact same game without FF somewhere else?
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embarrassingly dumb characters or motif? who cares, they are not relevant for a fighting game. or any game...
<_<
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Damn, I wanted this to be at least buyable. Argh! Needed something for work breaks. This looks terrible.
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man i cant believe you guys this is gonna be an epic game
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Why isn't the topic over yet? Everything you could possibly say about this game has already been said.
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If this games so bad how come it got an average of 8 out of 10 on the gamefaqs reviews.
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Because $$$
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If this games so bad how come it got an average of 8 out of 10 on the gamefaqs reviews.
Because the majority of game reviews are horribly skewed.
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Hahahhahahhaha fucking GAMEFAQS
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If the post was directed to me: Never said anything like that at all. I simply mentioned that the game has been getting positive praise by the people who actually played it, japanese or not. People on this board tend to go with the argument such as this to counter it:
two people in this topic played it. did you miss that?
(they both said it was terrible)
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If this games so bad how come it got an average of 8 out of 10 on the gamefaqs reviews.
you are not serious.
can you not read???
Reader Review Average
8.3
From 14 reviews
GameFAQs Rating Average
9.2
From 506 users
the one for actual reviewers instead of users who preordered the game and were jackin it off before it came out is empty.
Hey dude, you play this game for fun, not because of the story. I mean it's a fucking fighting game dude.
yep thats the only issue I have with it. nothing to do with the fact this is yet another example of intellectual bankruptcy at its finest, or Square's new policy of "never make an original game again".
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ps you're the idiot who said FINAL FANTASY DISLIKE = I DONT WANNA LOOK UNCOOL, and Final Fantasy is based on plot so yeah disliking some incredibly shitty plots is a valid complaint.
also: the matrix is rated over citizen kane on IMDB's user reviews.
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yeah it's kinda like my boss was talking about nickelback and daughtry and i was like ugh and she said "they've sold more album's than the bands you like." and i was like really because how is that a valid point?
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Apparently they haven't learned from their last attempt, Ehrgeiz.
At least Cloud actually looked like Cloud back then
And Smash Bros. (the original) was pretty cool because they were actually devoted to making the characters look like the original or at least the most recent one (N64 Link etc.) I haven't looked at the newer ones too much but it looked like they found a way to ruin it
also I just want to say this to the new Final Fantasy game designer: we know you're gay already lol, I don't know what it's like in Japan but like even little old ladies named Ethel are like "oh he's one of those gays isn't he" please just fucking come out already because you've made it ridiculously obvious to everyone on the face of the earth and then you can actually go out with some Japanese dude instead of drawing gameporn (although Kuja is the worst and I'm hoping that's a joke in some weird way)
this is also addressed to the guy who did designs for the Castlevania fighting game unless you're both the same guy anime makes it so hard to tell whether 1 guy designed everything singlehandedly or 10000 different people seriously it's so conformist
also I sort of detract this if the Japanese game industry is actually really liberal and cool and allows gays/lesbians to get a job (or just has a don't ask don't tell opinion on it) while lots of other employers in Japan are very bigoted on the subject. Really looking at it that's the only way you could explain 99% of video game designs (most fighting games for example)
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no its an anime cultural thing called bishounen ("beautiful boy") and is designed to appeal to younger women. basically it restructures male leads as feminine. this would seem forward thinking except it's just about as corporate and money grubbing as anything else, and the most bishounen characters are typically the villains in the series.
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man you can be straight and design those characters
or was it some woman who did the designs
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i...said nothing about the sexuality of the artists? i'm not sure it's ever an issue, bishounen is a sales tactic like anything else. so is YAOI. these aren't gay rights movements, its them catering to japanese women who find it erotic/aesthetically pleasing.
there's a reason any anime with a gay character focuses exclusively on how they have basically the same exact relationship as "young girl meets dashing man" and rarely deal with ostracization, ACTUAL conflicting feelings beyond "does...rikimaru like me like I like him?" or gender dysphoria or anything.
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sorry to bust in on yah steel, but I've watched a lot of anime *flicks shades up* and it's not the exact same as stright relationships. Most homosexual relationships in anime are based around rape, prostitution and preteen boys.
femnale relationships have less rape and prostitution but perhaps more preteens.
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i...said nothing about the sexuality of the artists? i'm not sure it's ever an issue, bishounen is a sales tactic like anything else. so is YAOI. these aren't gay rights movements, its them catering to japanese women who find it erotic/aesthetically pleasing.
there's a reason any anime with a gay character focuses exclusively on how they have basically the same exact relationship as "young girl meets dashing man" and rarely deal with ostracization, ACTUAL conflicting feelings beyond "does...rikimaru like me like I like him?" or gender dysphoria or anything.
I can't help but think of this:
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ps you're the idiot who said FINAL FANTASY DISLIKE = I DONT WANNA LOOK UNCOOL, and Final Fantasy is based on plot so yeah disliking some incredibly shitty plots is a valid complaint.
also: the matrix is rated over citizen kane on IMDB's user reviews.
Fighting does not equal good story, and this is a fighting game, so it doesn't equal good story :fogetlaugh:
And it's not like I am saying this is a good game or not, but nevertheless this is a game based on gameplay like Brawl is and not on story like "ANY" rpg is supposed to be. And just so you know this game IS NOT a rpg.
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sorry to bust in on yah steel, but I've watched a lot of anime *flicks shades up* and it's not the exact same as stright relationships. Most homosexual relationships in anime are based around rape, prostitution and preteen boys.
Or it's the obscenely muscular gay guy who no one else in the game likes to be around and never has a partner at all.
And it's not like I am saying this is a good game or not, but nevertheless this is a game based on gameplay like Brawl is and not on story like "ANY" rpg is supposed to be. And just so you know this game IS NOT a rpg.
And going by the people in this topic that have played it, the gameplay is shit. That means this game is shit, with shitty characters on the side.
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Or it's the obscenely muscular gay guy who no one else in the game likes to be around and never has a partner at all.
And going by the people in this topic that have played it, the gameplay is shit. That means this game is shit, with shitty characters on the side.
Yes but that is square fault. That doesn't mean the game is not supposed to have a good story or is it? It's a fighting game for christ sake and most fighting games do dnot have a good story. And don't even bring that oh, street fighter and mortal kombat has good stories because they don't, nevertheless they were and still are good games franchises these days (with the exception of MK :fogetmmh:)
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Or it's the obscenely muscular gay guy who no one else in the game likes to be around and never has a partner at all.
And going by the people in this topic that have played it, the gameplay is shit. That means this game is shit, with shitty characters on the side.
You always let 2 or 3 people tell you what a good or bad game is?
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Velfarre, you shouldn't listen to only a few people when they don't like the game.
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usually if two or three people unanimously tell me a game is terrible i won't bother playing it.
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You always let 2 or 3 people tell you what a good or bad game is?
hahah w00ted a bit at how dumb this was.
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Yeah okay... well said, Steel.
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Well let's see, I can either trust the two or three people who have PLAYED the game or I could trust all the FF fanboys here that haven't played it at all but are trying to convince me it's great.
HMMMMMMM.
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Maybe you should try it yourself or wait for more opinions before making assumptions? Just saying...
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Liman have you ever cut your own dick off? Don't knock it till you try it.
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Maybe you should try it yourself or wait for more opinions before making assumptions? Just saying...
You say this like opinions can't change.
If I ever did play this (no interest in doing so but maybe if there was a demo in walmart or gamestop or some shit I'd try it JUST FOR YOU) and it turned out to be the best game of my life, I'd be willing to admit it. As far as what I know right now, it looks like absolute shit, the people who have played it says it is absolute shit, and the only people saying otherwise seem to only want it because it's Final Fantasy. Now, what conclusion am I supposed to come to here?
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The world is absurd.
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You say this like opinions can't change.
If I ever did play this (no interest in doing so but maybe if there was a demo in walmart or gamestop or some shit I'd try it JUST FOR YOU) and it turned out to be the best game of my life, I'd be willing to admit it. As far as what I know right now, it looks like absolute shit, the people who have played it says it is absolute shit, and the only people saying otherwise seem to only want it because it's Final Fantasy. Now, what conclusion am I supposed to come to here?
That it is not shit and you suck and should commit suicide in the name of Square Enix.
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See what I mean?
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That it is not shit and you suck and should commit suicide in the name of Square Enix.
were your opinions and or feelings hurt
it hurts
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That it is not shit and you suck and should commit suicide in the name of Square Enix.
oh well thank you for correcting me
You know I had early opinions on FF7 when I first played it (that it was great), and those have changed. I guess you're right, I probably should wait a while to see what my real opinions are, because the longer I wait the worse FF tends to get.
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Seriously, this looks fucking terrible, and 2-3 people confirming that it is indeed terrible is enough to me to not care about it. I'll probably end up trying it out eventually though anyway because some of my friends are terrible man-children who latch on to shit like this and will probably insist that I play it.
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I've seen some vids and the game looks like a waste of money, but not because it bad, but because is a mashing fest a la Erhgeiz or whatever you spell that.
@Velfarre: I was kidding btw.
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You say this like opinions can't change.
Uh, I think I was pretty much saying that "play it and your opinion COULD change." Not sure how you assumed the other way.
If I ever did play this (no interest in doing so but maybe if there was a demo in walmart or gamestop or some shit I'd try it JUST FOR YOU) and it turned out to be the best game of my life, I'd be willing to admit it. As far as what I know right now, it looks like absolute shit, the people who have played it says it is absolute shit, and the only people saying otherwise seem to only want it because it's Final Fantasy. Now, what conclusion am I supposed to come to here?
Of course people are interested in it if they are a fans of the franchise. Just because its main attraction is "Final Fantasy characters fighting each other" and the majority who buys it are fans doesn't mean it's a bad game, and the only way to like it is to be a fan. By that logic all games (especially sequels) must be bad because only fans would buy it again.
I for one don't care at all if you intend to play it or not. I just think it's pretty strange to dislike a game so much without even playing it. You mention that the guys you listen to said it's shit and therefore it must be true. But you also keep saying that anyone who likes it "must be a fan and likes it for that reason" and therefore seem to think that his/hers opinion is invalid. You seem to accept the negative guys opinions because that's how you view the game yourself and totally reject any positive comments on the arguments I mentioned above. I might be wrong about that statement, but that's how it sounds.
Disliking the concept is fine by me though.
Anywho, I'm out. Stupid or not, opinions are opinions after all...
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yeah I didn't know about the whole characters being made to look gay to make the game sell better thing... it was enlightening conversation
but I mean there's stuff like that in America like emo music... and emo music
at least the guys in anime always SOUND macho
Edit: Well not everyone but I'm remembering that time I heard the Japanese version of MGS2 and Raiden's voice was gruffer than Solid Snake's
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at least the guys in anime always SOUND macho
Edit: Well not everyone but I'm remembering that time I heard the Japanese version of MGS2 and Raiden's voice was gruffer than Solid Snake's
Sure the guys in anime sound macho :fogetshifty:
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Sure the guys in anime sound macho :fogetshifty:
maybe I'm mostly remembering Raiden he sounded like he could kick like anyone's ass
I thought I remembered like one or two animes though back when I did anime and a lot of the time they'd have completely inappropriate voices
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My friend didn't believe that Square can make a fighting game but this game changed his opinion. Now he plays it like mad :/ So I guess you don't have to be a Final Fantasy fan to like this game. I would love to try this game to but I don't have a PSP, heh.
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I don't know what to think of this game.
This topic is supposed to help me by telling me exactly what I'm supposed to think of this game, but too many people are saying too many different things.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?! JUST TELL ME WHAT MY OPINION IS SUPPOSED TO BE ALREADY!!!
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It's a button masher featuring final fantasy characters. When the fighters aren't flying around animeswordfighting or tossing glitter back and forth at each other the game pauses to either splash a random picture across the screen or to show you the super ultimate attack sequences.
It also has alternate costumes like SeeD Ball Squall, Advent Children Cloud, and (a nude) Super Saiyajin lvl 4 Zidane.
Play the game if this appeals to you.
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im not gonna say dissidia is bad nor am i gonna say its good ill decide when i play it and i dont think this topic was made for people to say if it was good or bad
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If you guys really wanna know, just buy a PSP, hack it and then download the japanese version and play the damn thing already instead of bitching and telling everyone what your friends has said about the game.
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Final Fantasy is seriously pissing me off. I know square enix named it final because they thought it would be there last and ironically it saved them, But I don't believe that story at all. I think they thought it would be funny as hell to annoy ME personally by putting final in it's name and making exactly 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 (one quintillion) clones, which is slightly less then half of the episodes of Inuyasha.
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Final Fantasy is seriously pissing me off. I know square enix named it final because they thought it would be there last and ironically it saved them, But I don't believe that story at all. I think they thought it would be funny as hell to annoy ME personally by putting final in it's name and making exactly 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 (one quintillion) clones, which is slightly less then half of the episodes of Inuyasha.
i kno man videogame titles really get to me too
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just tell da guy wat he wants 2 no shuld he import it or not
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Im actually looking forward to this. *Hides from future quotes and flames*
I need a few more games for my PSP
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WTF? It's "cool" to hate FF now? Youre gonna buy it anyway why are you whining
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Yeah I heard it was good. Seems like it has some entertaining game mechanics. I will wait to play it before I CRUCIFY IT, god.
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WTF? It's "cool" to hate FF now? Youre gonna buy it anyway why are you whining
Truth.
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If you guys really wanna know, just buy a PSP, hack it and then download the japanese version and play the damn thing already instead of bitching and telling everyone what your friends has said about the game.
And waste our precious bandwidth?!
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I think that Square Enix should just stick to making rpgs. I mean WTH Final fantasy fighting, what comes next Final fantasy golf.
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Final fantasy golf.
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yes.
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No, Final Fantasy Tower Defense ( Or Crystal Defender, as they call it ) :/ It's coming on PSP or NDS, I don't remember.
I mean, they even have Itadaki Street - Square Enix version. ( It's like a Game Of Life, a board game , but you play as characters from Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest instead.) so I'd say a fighting game is not that ridiculous...
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If you guys really wanna know, just buy a PSP, hack it and then download the japanese version and play the damn thing already instead of bitching and telling everyone what your friends has said about the game.
do you not realize how completely stupid this is
you're thinking "well if you download it you can find out if it's any good without paying for it" but you're forgetting the fact that you start with BUY A PSP
i am not paying over $100 for a game that looks completely shit
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just tell da guy wat he wants 2 no shuld he import it or not
no.
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Final Fantasy Golf. Lol. Someone please make a game out of that.
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I think that Square Enix should just stick to making rpgs. I mean WTH Final fantasy fighting, what comes next Final fantasy golf.
And Final Fantasy party (á la mario party)...I would buy that game. :fogetnaughty:
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do you not realize how completely stupid this is
you're thinking "well if you download it you can find out if it's any good without paying for it" but you're forgetting the fact that you start with BUY A PSP
i am not paying over $100 for a game that looks completely shit
I forgot my [sarcasm] tags sorry...
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I forgot my [sarcasm] tags sorry...
Saying something that makes no sense isn't sarcasm sorry
What's sarcastic about what you said?
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I still can't see how somebody could be like UNDECIDED on this game like if you're not interested enough in the first place I would think you would think about the thousands of more interesting videogames you could be playing right now or like just go eat something or masturbate or shoot yourself anything looks more fun than this
like what does somebody see in this where they don't want to play the game immediately but they might think of playing it a few days later all I see is gay hair and lights and crystals now if you're a gay hair/crystals/lights fan that's ok go and get it but to everyone else who seems to see some shred of something else in this game I'm 99% sure it's just going to be gay hair/lights/crystals
I'm just saying even if you had a PSP already and could download it for free it still seems like such a huge waste of energy even even if I saw them at school for some reason w/ the free coffees like free coffees + free Final Fantasy Dissidias I'd still debate whether it was worth the effort to hold the weight of it in my hands or just be caught holding the box in public
I can't believe I actually have the spelling of this game memorized wtf is a Dissidia it's not worth being able to spell and if you've actually scrolled up to get the spelling of the name right you're probably a huge tool
Edit: Seriously let's just call it X like on a contract it's not worth the effort to actually type out all those letters
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ragnar thats homophobic.
gay people have good hair.
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the correct term is "anime hair"
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the correct term is "anime hair"
yeah I'm sorry I just forgot the term for a sec
I thought they only called it anime hair in the east though I was pretty sure that was what all western gaijins call that kind of hair
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Saying something that makes no sense isn't sarcasm sorry
What's sarcastic about what you said?
Well I guess sarcasm isn't the word for it at the time but I had nothing else. Why would you go to such lengths to buy a psp just to play this game yet there are some people who haven't played it or just heard rumours, yet they think it's alright to bad mouth and bitch about it, IT might be a bad game but why would you do something so stupid and say it's a bad game if you haven't even played it for yourself. I'll be honest it doesn't look too bad, but I am not a true final fantasy fan, I kinda grew out of it.
EDIT: :fogetrite: I'll explain in a better way, like you said Velfarre why would you go spend money to buy a psp just to play this game, it is INCREDIBLY STUPID.
Why would you judge something if you haven't tried it yet? example: FF Dissidia is shit I've heard some people say it's rubbish so it must be rubbish, THIS is also stupid.
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Dissidia means conflict in Latin or something similar.
For those who would like to see their favorite FF character beat people up in real time while making their numbers go up, could probably enjoy this game for awhile(it was enough to make me take Terra to level 100 before i stopped playing). Its a poorly balanced game, especially if you use equipment and summons in battle against another player(no items, final destination only!) and any kinda serious tournament scene probably won't last very long(like i said before, its a terrible fighter, even se made up a new genre for it because even they knew it was a crappy one). If you don't hate all things final fantasy yet, you might be able to get a few hours of enjoyment out of it(though i would strongly suggest dling it, se does not deserve your money for this, if you need a good psp game, get Monster Hunter instead).
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Hey guys just shedding some light on some of your comments:
i remember when i was a kid every new final fantasy that came out i thought the main character was a woman. all FF characters look girly. I never understood it either, but having studied and lived in japan i get it now. In japan guys are considered cool the prettier they are. now of course there are exceptions. some girls really hate the girly guys etc. but in the media and pop world it's a huge trend. i remember seeing this dude wearing a pink shirt, tight capris, and white slip on flats waiting at my bus stop. i had to do a triple take because he was so androgynous. its a completely different culture with completely different fads. Japanese people :woop: love :woop: pretty men.
as for the screens, from what i could read it seems the characters remember their abilities over time. this probably has something to do witht he fact that theyre taken from different universes or something. it seems the level up system is all about remembering who you were. and just throwin it in there: in the kuja pic hes saying "What did you say?" i know, not very informative.
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what the hell are you even talking about
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gay men. :shh:
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what the hell are you even talking about
final fantasy is a good series because the girly men are just part of japanese CULTURE :welp:
fun fact: part of being a good company and NOT just generating complete garbage to continue to make money is to not base your creative process based on what sells, i.e. girly men
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Seems alright, nothing to really hype about though.
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what are you talming about it's FINAL FANTASY
the title alone is enough to hype about
let alone the idea of playing TIDUS X SQUALL
its likeawet dream
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what the hell are you even talking about
Basically, what he's trying to say is some Japenese people like men with lipstick.
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Apparently that's what japanese girls like.
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I hope I can unlock chocobo. if I can't unlock chocobo whats the point. how is it final fantasy.
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All Hottiez Eat the Jizz
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I'm a chocobo
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I hope I can unlock chocobo. if I can't unlock chocobo whats the point. how is it final fantasy.
when i bought ff7 as a kid i bought it for the chcobo breeding, i don't even know if i got that far into the game though, at least not to the point where the breeding was available enough to be enjoyable
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You mean Disc 3? Yeah it wasn't that easy until you have a fast Highwind and free range of the world map.
FF7's alright if you ignore the story. Definitely up there for one of the best battle systems in the series (see: Materia). Even if it was godawefully easy.
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Really? Because I hated the battle system, and the story, and that's why I didn't make it to disc 3.
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It doesn't hold a candle to FF10, but it's definitely better than most of the original ones, 8, 9, and 12. I won't even mention 11 because it brings a taste of stale vomit to my mouth.
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You mean Disc 3? Yeah it wasn't that easy until you have a fast Highwind and free range of the world map.
FF7's alright if you ignore the story. Definitely up there for one of the best battle systems in the series (see: Materia). Even if it was godawefully easy.
If you ignore FF7's story you are pretty much left with... nothing? Even though the material system is cool the battle system is still basic as fuck.
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FF7's alright if you ignore the story. Definitely up there for one of the best battle systems in the series (see: Materia). Even if it was godawefully easy.
FF7 is nothing without its story you douchebag.
:welp:
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FF7's alright if you ignore the story.
FF7 is nothing without its story you douchebag.
What a perfectly reasonable response.
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If you ignore FF7's story you are pretty much left with... nothing? Even though the material system is cool the battle system is still basic as fuck.
Battle system this, battle system that, battle system battle system, I really hate the whole word and when it comes to final fantasy, there's never been a GOOD (read: fun) battle system, nor has there been a complex one. It's always the same: You sit through a 30 second transition, mash a button until the enemies are dead and then have a 10 second transition during which you get gold, items, exp and shit like that which you dont even need if you are playing any of the psx ones because the games are so easy.
In FF10 the battles were more fun IN THEORY because it worked a lot faster IN THEORY but in practice you had to swap through your entire party in every battle to keep them from being underleveled.
I recently played through discs 1 and 2 of FF7 and it is tedious as all hell to play it without a turbo button. I seriously couldn't have sat through the CLOUD TELLS HIS DARK PAST THIS IS SO INTERESTING scene without turbo and even then it took like an hour to get through that shit. Battles are another thing that need turbo because even with it, it takes like 15 seconds to deal with some generic slime enemies.
If I'd have to give one word of praise to the series I'd say the card game in FF8 was a lot more fun and interesting than most of the actual games were. I don't know what the fuck was up with the FF9 card game because that made no fucking sense and was just a load of shit although it was based on the previous one. Generally speaking a lot of the minigames were interesting and actually somewhat fun, moreso than the games they were in.
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Well, I had a lot of fun with FF7's battle system. 8 was pretty OK, but always having to reach for the trigger button was a bit annoying. 9 was fun, except the fact you couldn't save Trance for when you need it. 10 is among my favourites, except yes you need to swap your party to keep from underleveling. I'm not mentioning the 6 and under because those were progressively better, but still lacked the customisable materia element.
And by "ignore the story" I pretty much mean, ignore the fact it's shit. Chocobos were the most fun in FF7, the minigames were great, and the WEAPONS were an alright challenge.
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most pre ff7 battle systems had a lot less waiting and were generally faster paced.
just...putting that out there. i have nothing else to contribute to this discussion really.
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final fantasy is a good series because the girly men are just part of japanese CULTURE :welp:
No they aren't, they want to be girly but they are not necessarily girly.
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Battle system this, battle system that, battle system battle system, I really hate the whole word and when it comes to final fantasy, there's never been a GOOD (read: fun) battle system, nor has there been a complex one. It's always the same: You sit through a 30 second transition, mash a button until the enemies are dead and then have a 10 second transition during which you get gold, items, exp and shit like that which you dont even need if you are playing any of the psx ones because the games are so easy.
In FF10 the battles were more fun IN THEORY because it worked a lot faster IN THEORY but in practice you had to swap through your entire party in every battle to keep them from being underleveled.
I recently played through discs 1 and 2 of FF7 and it is tedious as all hell to play it without a turbo button. I seriously couldn't have sat through the CLOUD TELLS HIS DARK PAST THIS IS SO INTERESTING scene without turbo and even then it took like an hour to get through that shit. Battles are another thing that need turbo because even with it, it takes like 15 seconds to deal with some generic slime enemies.
Man, you feel that way and still were able to play through both disc 1 and disc 2 on FF7? I'm impressed. I've tried playing FF7 on at least three seperate occasions, and yet I could never get myself to go past disc 1. Each time I re-play it, I forget why I ever stopped playing in the first place. But then my enthusaism would wane after Midgar and burn out while trekking somewhere on that damned world map (I only get that far to level up/customize materia, but even that gets old after a while).
Is that spoiler that's supposed to happen on disc 2 or something even worth it? Because every time I quit playing I do so without regret, but apparently I'm missing out on some mind-blowingly tragic event that changes your life forever.
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Well Disc 2 is really short, like, 3 hours with turbo constantly on, and Disc 1 is pretty good up until you leave Midgar at which point the game starts to fall apart but the constant barrage of minigames and leveling up materia and trying to get all the enemy skill stuff keeps it just interesting enough to get through it all.
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reach for the trigger button???
your fingers curve around the control pad when holding it, how exactly do you have to reach? are you a sparrow?
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No they aren't, they want to be girly but they are not necessarily girly.
have you ever seen ff characters
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How does this hold up compared to Ergheiz or however that was called?
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whoa why is ff7's story shit.
it's better than almost every other story out there and I'd seriously be interested in seeing one of you justify it beyond "characters are cliche" or whatever since I think too many people get away with that where it doesn't apply (ah yes the cliche of the sullen anime guy with a big sword that this fucking game invented).
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reach for the trigger button???
your fingers curve around the control pad when holding it, how exactly do you have to reach? are you a sparrow?
Everyone has been commenting on having a turbo button. You certainly can't turbo button when you have to pay attention for a timed attack everytime Squall swings his gunblade. I'll avoid using the english language liberally when making a point.
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i wouldn't say it's bad, but i never thought it to be anything special. the whole deal with Shinra was kind of interesting, and the idea of being part of a "terrorist" mob thing was neat to, but thats about all I can say as I never made it past the second disc...
i just... couldn't... stand it... :blarg:
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How does this hold up compared to Ergheiz or however that was called?
Ehrgeiz is utter shit, Dissidia may be pretty crappy but nowhere near the level of Ehrgeiz.
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whoa why is ff7's story shit.
it's better than almost every other story out there and I'd seriously be interested in seeing one of you justify it beyond "characters are cliche" or whatever since I think too many people get away with that where it doesn't apply (ah yes the cliche of the sullen anime guy with a big sword that this fucking game invented).
yeah but i didn't care about the characters, and part of it was that, for example, cloud was the sullen anime guy, but even if it's not cliche due to when this game came out, that doesn't make it likeable. the characters weren't cliche, just boring, for me at least.
i did like the beginning of the story, and bits and pieces through the middle, but as it went on i just lost interest in it. even still though the story IS the only reason to play that game, so if you don't like it, you won't get anything out of it. the whole argument of BUT THE BATTLE SYSTEM!!! is just terrible, i'm not playing 3 discs worth of battle system (which also is just like any other RPG except it makes you sit and wait your turn, why is this so great?)
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i wouldn't say it's bad, but i never thought it to be anything special. the whole deal with Shinra was kind of interesting, and the idea of being part of a "terrorist" mob thing was neat to, but thats about all I can say as I never made it past the second disc...
i just... couldn't... stand it... :blarg:
Writing as someone who formerly hated Final Fantasy VII, I actually find the game's story rather fascinating; not in the sense that it's masterfully told, but in its simplistic profundity; as paradoxical as that may sound.
When I last played-through the game, back in November, a few years after having first completed it (with a great deal of resistance and effort), I came to observe more about how the aesthetic informs the underlying theme of the story. The theme I write of being postcolonial industrialism's repression of our inherent humanity.
Both Wutai and Cosmo Canyon are representative of Eastern and Western pre-colonial civilisations, respectively. The former society engaged in a full-on war with the Shinra, whereas the latter produced Avalanche who, in contrast, committed several covert and systematic attacks on the aforementioned conglomerate in attempt to bring the Mako-refinement industry to its knees.
What are Shinra's aims? Cid Highwind tells the group that its Space Program was scrapped because the newly-discovered Mako reserves appeared to be more profitable. Also remember that before this discovery Shinra had invested the majority of its labour in the coal-mining industry, of which Corel was a major centre.
The societies of Wutai and Cosmo Canyon live in humble harmony with the planet, with not a care in the world; whereas the Shinra, a fusion of both Eastern and Western post-industrial societies, seeks to bleed the planet without considering the potential consequences of its actions. And for what? Profit that will only buy them short-term gratification.
It's a simple, profound and pertinent commentary on the conflict between what we want (and strive to acquire, regardless of the consequences) and what we truly need. The Dark Knight's a good example of a similarly well-paced story crafted around a central over-arching theme (or synthesis of themes).
I could write more on the depths of the game's subtext, but I'm spent for now. Point: there's often more than meets the eye.
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you're still color coding your posts, huh?
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Yeah man, the color coding makes your post impossible to read do you realize this?
When I try to look at it my eyes just focus on the red words and I can't read the rest of them.
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color coding AND fucking italics AND bold.
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Writing as someone who formerly hated Final Fantasy VII, I actually find the game's story rather fascinating; not in the sense that it's masterfully told, but in its simplistic profundity; as paradoxical as that may sound.
When I last played-through the game, back in November, a few years after having first completed it (with a great deal of resistance and effort), I came to observe more about how the aesthetic informs the underlying theme of the story. The theme I write of being postcolonial industrialism's repression of our inherent humanity.
Both Wutai and Cosmo Canyon are representative of Eastern and Western pre-colonial civilisations, respectively. The former society engaged in a full-on war with the Shinra, whereas the latter produced Avalanche who, in contrast, committed several covert and systematic attacks on the aforementioned conglomerate in attempt to bring the Mako-refinement industry to its knees.
What are Shinra's aims? Cid Highwind tells the group that its Space Program was scrapped because the newly-discovered Mako reserves appeared to be more profitable. Also remember that before this discovery Shinra had invested the majority of its labour in the coal-mining industry, of which Corel was a major centre.
The societies of Wutai and Cosmo Canyon live in humble harmony with the planet, with not a care in the world; whereas the Shinra, a fusion of both Eastern and Western post-industrial societies, seeks to bleed the planet without considering the potential consequences of its actions. And for what? Profit that will only buy them short-term gratification.
It's a simple, profound and pertinent commentary on the conflict between what we want (and strive to acquire, regardless of the consequences) and what we truly need. The Dark Knight's a good example of a similarly well-paced story crafted around a central over-arching theme (or synthesis of themes).
I could write more on the depths of the game's subtext, but I'm spent for now. Point: there's often more than meets the eye.
there.
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what are you talming about it's FINAL FANTASY
the title alone is enough to hype about
let alone the idea of playing TIDUS X SQUALL
its likeawet dream
I understand that most people will hype but me, I just don't. I honestly don't care for this game, but it does not seem bad. Will probably not buy it.
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I understand that most people will hype but me, I just don't. I honestly don't care for this game, but it does not seem bad. Will probably not buy it.
I gotta agree with you here Liquid Ocelot. The Octave Doctor is pretty annoying with his constant FINAL FANTASY FINAL FANTASY FINAL FANTASY TRANSFORMERS TRANSFORMERS TRANSFORMERS ANIME ANIME ANIME bullshit. Glad to know there's another sane person on these boards Liquid Ocelot.
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I gotta agree with you here Liquid Ocelot. The Octave Doctor is pretty annoying with his constant FINAL FANTASY FINAL FANTASY FINAL FANTASY TRANSFORMERS TRANSFORMERS TRANSFORMERS ANIME ANIME ANIME bullshit. Glad to know there's another sane person on these boards Liquid Ocelot.
thank you, I tend not to rave about things like this.
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hes kidding, octave doctor was being sarcastic, and i feel like spoiling the joke now.
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hes kidding, octave doctor was being sarcastic, and i feel like spoiling the joke now.
I know, i just wanted to make it clear for anyone who thought the same things he was thinking...
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Only 4 more months to go before Dissidia gets released in english, I'd laugh if anyone was camping outside stores for this game. I'm pretty sure people camped outside for Halo 3.
By the time this comes out, everyone will probably be playing FF13.
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Most likely FFanboys(as I call them) will camp out for both.
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heh
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ffanboys
look at how quirky you are, heh, heh,,,, heh , ,heh
Alot of people camped for Halo 3. I'm not sure much would camp for this, because when you think about it, Halo 3 has an insanely gigantic fanbase compared to what FF has now, and Dissidia ain't even a regular FF game.
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Yeah this is more a pick up if you have nothing else to play, kind of game. Not a camping worthy event.
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Yeah this is more a pick up if you have nothing else to play, kind of game. Not a camping worthy event.
True, and also people who write fan fiction about if "HEY CLOWD MET SQUALLZ!!" will probably hate this game for taking their ideas XD
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I downloaded the japanese version so i could do battle with my friend (not doing main story till its English) does anyone know what the menu options are its a little confusing since there are alot.
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a bit of ff talk: http://www.gamespite.net/toastywiki/index.php/Games/FinalFantasyXII
I was reading that review and it confirmed what I always suspected; the author left before FFXII was done, which is why Vaan is the main character instead of Basch.
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a bit of ff talk: http://www.gamespite.net/toastywiki/index.php/Games/FinalFantasyXII
I was reading that review and it confirmed what I always suspected; the author left before FFXII was done, which is why Vaan is the main character instead of Basch.
Looks like they believed Ondore's lies...
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Anyone Who Sez Diz Iz Bad I Waz Playing With Their Mother Last Night
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oh no, someone doesn't like final fantasy...my....my..little..world....its collapsing all around me....wh-whatever..will I do????
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I played the japanese version all i can say is WOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
its Awsome,the story mode might not be as good havent tried it yet but I was doing 2 players with my friend yesterday we stayed versing eachother for like 4 hours straight!
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I played the japanese version all i can say is WOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
its Awsome,the story mode might not be as good havent tried it yet but I was doing 2 players with my friend yesterday we stayed versing eachother for like 4 hours straight!
Well, please tell us what is so good about it?
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The fast paced battles,the rpg element you can equip weapons and such(doesnt really matter though cause its in japanese),How quick the battles end is also fun as is experimenting with the characters like cloud and tidus (like they all have a completely different style.),not too much attack buttons is also a plus.The limiit breaks are fun to execute.You can unlock new costumes the list goes on . . .
My point iis its a really fun game not that good on single player but a hell of alot more fun on 2 player.
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Hmm, doesn't sound too bad to be honest, so why is everyone saying this game is bad?
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Hmm, doesn't sound too bad to be honest, so why is everyone saying this game is bad?
jr said the same thing the bad reviews did, only he considers them positives
It is a really crappy button masher fighting game where every character has about... 4 attacks (when I say button masher I mean, you will mash the circle button for the entire fight, you could close your eyes and win provided you keep hitting the circle button).
see, jr said the same thing, only he seems to like there not being more than 4 attacks, also he loves the weapon equipping but someone else here said that you NEVER HAVE TO USE IT
the arguments in the topic are based on facts about the game, jr just seems to like those things instead of hate them like the others
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Well then I guess I'll try it and give everyone my opinion on it too!