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Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on February 05, 2009, 10:25:40 pm
Remember Battlefield 1942? Ever wonder what that would be like in next gen? Well I have good news then, they are making a game called Battlefield 1943 which will basically be like 1942 but with some modern touch ups. First of all, its an Xbox Live Arcade and PSN title(PC as well), so don't expect a plethora of maps(there are just 3 which include Wake Island, Guadalcanal, and Iwo Jima) but do expect some major face lifts. First off, from the looks of things this game will play like bad company since it runs off of the Frostbite Engine which allows for destructable environments, but will maintain the same vehicles and weaponry as the old game. It might even have unlockable weapons hopefully, instead of having weapons based on the map but that is only a guess, and a hope considering 3 maps wouldn't hold too much weapon variety. Second is that the graphics are getting a major upgrade and it looks fucking beautiful. Other then these changes, it will more or less play like Battlefield 1942 only now it is available on PS3 and Xbox360 as well as PC. There is little details and only a video to show what this game will look like or play like, but I will try to update the topic as more info comes. For now, here is the first trailer:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45144.html
Update1: http://www.battlefield1943.com/ there actually is a website, more details can be found there. Shame its 24 players but I will put that aside me.
Update2: Gamespot got their hands on with Battlefeild 1943:
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There's a tangible buzz in the air at DICE's Stockholm headquarters. It's indicative of a studio hard at work, which is not surprising, given the number of unannounced games that the company must be working on right now. So it's with some sense of relief that producers Patrick Liu and Gordon Van Dyke are finally able to talk about their own project, which will be the latest game in the beloved Battlefield series. Named Battlefield 1943, the game will be a download-only game for Xbox Live, PlayStation Network, and PC.

Our demo began with the same trailer that you can see alongside this preview. It proudly announces that Battlefield 1943 will use the Frostbite engine--the same one that powered the destructible environments in Bad Company--after which it shows off the land-, sea-, and air-based combat that should be more familiar to players of Battlefield 1942. The message seems to be that this is classic Battlefield multiplayer updated with cutting-edge technology, a thought that's only reinforced by the inclusion of the Wake Island map from Battlefield 1942. Van Dyke explains that 1943 will have more in common with Bad Company in terms of gameplay, but with all of the things that made 1942 great. That includes a heavy focus on vehicular combat, as well as the obvious similarities in historical setting.

After the trailer, the conversation naturally turned to the game's download-based delivery. It's a topic that the team is excited to talk about, while simultaneously being keen to gauge our opinion on. "We want Battlefield 1943 to be the premium downloadable game on consoles," Van Dyke said. With a technologically advanced engine powering a new entry in a proven franchise, that shouldn't be too much of a problem, but at what cost? "We're not talking about that just yet," he conceded, "but think premium pricing along the lines of something like Braid." Even more surprising, the team said that the game will weigh in as a paltry 350MB download, at least on Xbox Live.

As for the game itself, the maximum number of online players will be 24, and you'll be able to play as both the US Marines and the Japanese Imperial Army. The lack of bot support is a small niggle for those who wish to practice, but that doesn't stop it from being newbie-friendly; you'll be able to level up your character and show your experience to others, but it won't afford you extra weapons or abilities. Battlefield 1943 will offer the Conquest game mode only, which means that you have to capture and control five points on the map to win the game, with capture points offering you and your team new points from which to respawn. As for maps, Liu and Van Dyke talked about the aforementioned Wake Island, as well as Iwo Jima and Guadalcanal.

Once we'd gone through the stats with the producers, they offered us the chance to play against DICE employees through two matches on the Wake Island map. Battlefield stalwarts will immediately recognise the boomerang-shaped layout of the map, with two aircraft carriers located off of each tip. We started the game on one of these carriers and immediately ran toward one of the aircraft. Piloting the plane was initially a bit tricky but quickly became intuitive; the right trigger is used to accelerate and the right analogue stick changes your pitch and roll. These aircraft are equipped with machine guns and rockets, and the Frostbite engine lets you topple entire buildings through judicious use of the latter.

Our experience with the new game was punctuated by some incredible standout moments. Playing as the Japanese side, we were able to melee-kill someone using a samurai sword, a bizarre but highly entertaining weapon. There were times when airplanes blasted overhead, toppling the buildings around us but miraculously missing us entirely. But our favourite moment was jumping into an air-raid shelter, which provided temporary cover against the enemy while we piloted a formation of aircraft to bomb a target. You have to time the bombing run just right to hit your target--which we failed to do on our one and only go--but with the right skill, these shelters should have the ability to turn the course of games.

Even at this early stage, Battlefield 1943 is incredibly fun to play. It possesses all of the hallmarks of a great Battlefield game, and the Frostbite engine offers the graphics that you'd expect in a full retail release. If you're interested in playing the game and you're in the New York area this weekend, then head to Comic-Con, where the team will be giving hands-on demos on February 6, 7, and 8. With the game in pre-alpha already, we're hoping to see a lot more of it in the coming months, so keep your radar tracked to GameSpot for more info as we get it.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Rowain on February 05, 2009, 10:31:25 pm
That's actually sort of cool. I had a ton of fun with the BF1942 demo OH SO LONG AGo and that was just Wake Island. I remember how fun it was just to take a plane and do bombing runs of the enemy ships and stuff. Could be a lot of fun for a cheap little Arcade title!
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on February 05, 2009, 10:38:02 pm
That's actually sort of cool. I had a ton of fun with the BF1942 demo OH SO LONG AGo and that was just Wake Island. I remember how fun it was just to take a plane and do bombing runs of the enemy ships and stuff. Could be a lot of fun for a cheap little Arcade title!

I still play 1942, its still is a lot of fun and it is my favorite in the franchise(Nam' and 2142 tied at 2nd best). I cannot wait for this, its got 2 of my favorite maps(Guadalcanal being questionable).
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: tuxedo marx on February 05, 2009, 10:39:16 pm
aaah BF1942 what a game. but why does this only have Pacific maps? it would make sense to have a Western Front map, and Eastern Front map and a Pacific map, a good range.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Supra Mairo on February 05, 2009, 10:46:47 pm
Well, when I played this I had a low-end comp and connection so it wasn't really all that fun for me because in order to get the most out of this you need at least 32 players on a map and that was too much for my hardware back then.

It was a lot of fun to play with friends though, one guy took the plane while others tried to crouch on the wings and hold on while firing bazookas at enemies.

There was a lot of stupid shit there too though, like when you had a tank your biggest concern wasn't enemy tanks but jeeps because jeeps could kill anything by ramming into stuff. Well jeeps and also the occasional jihad planes.

One of the gayest things was spawn camping though because while in other games its still cheap but somewhat counterable whereas here you spawned and a tank camped the spawn or planes kept bombing the spawn area without a pause.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: tuxedo marx on February 05, 2009, 10:51:38 pm
yeah spawn camping was pretty nuts, especially on kursk. I hope they've fixed that.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Christophomicus on February 05, 2009, 10:56:22 pm
20 bucks says they'll add more map packs later for an extortionate price.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: tuxedo marx on February 05, 2009, 10:57:18 pm
haha, I wouldn't put it past EA.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on February 05, 2009, 10:57:32 pm
Well, when I played this I had a low-end comp and connection so it wasn't really all that fun for me because in order to get the most out of this you need at least 32 players on a map and that was too much for my hardware back then.

It was a lot of fun to play with friends though, one guy took the plane while others tried to crouch on the wings and hold on while firing bazookas at enemies.

There was a lot of stupid shit there too though, like when you had a tank your biggest concern wasn't enemy tanks but jeeps because jeeps could kill anything by ramming into stuff. Well jeeps and also the occasional jihad planes.

One of the gayest things was spawn camping though because while in other games its still cheap but somewhat counterable whereas here you spawned and a tank camped the spawn or planes kept bombing the spawn area without a pause.

Thats the main problem I found mainly with Wake Island, but that is only because that map is not made for 64 people, it would be way too chaotic. By the way, i made an update(look above).
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Marcus on February 06, 2009, 12:03:31 am
wasn't there an expansion pack that added germany's experimental jet planes and rocket packs?

will all of those weird ass vehicles be in here?
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Supra Mairo on February 06, 2009, 12:19:33 am
Yeah there was, Secret Weapons or some shit like that. It was pretty good though, jetpacks were a certain way to kill yourself.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liman on February 06, 2009, 01:08:24 am
Looks pretty! Let's hope it runs as smooth as Bad Company (and yet feel like the original).

Any word on how much it's going to cost?
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on February 06, 2009, 03:15:18 am
wasn't there an expansion pack that added germany's experimental jet planes and rocket packs?

will all of those weird ass vehicles be in here?
probably not, the maps included aren't from any expansions
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Mama Luigi on February 06, 2009, 03:34:02 am
That Wake Island map looks sick. It's like Wake Island in BF2 except so much more graphical!

Definitely getting this.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on February 06, 2009, 04:02:38 am
That Wake Island map looks sick. It's like Wake Island in BF2 except so much more graphical!

Definitely getting this.
WI was in BF2?! I dont own that BF but that is badass 
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: TheMonster on February 06, 2009, 03:02:06 pm
I still play 2142 Weekly.... proud member of TacticalGamers, and yeah Wake Island has appeared in pretty much every BF.

I heard BF1943  will only support 22 Multiplayer

EDIT: ohh first post mentions 24 players
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Tosoto on February 07, 2009, 03:04:39 am
I know I read somewhere the game is basically being dumbed down. Only 3 classes that are made to be able to take on any situation (medics and heavy weapons are apparently gone) and auto-regenerating health.

Sounds very Halo-ish to me.

I just hope I was being lied to.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on February 07, 2009, 03:48:28 pm
I added another update, gamespot got their hands on with this game.
I know I read somewhere the game is basically being dumbed down. Only 3 classes that are made to be able to take on any situation (medics and heavy weapons are apparently gone) and auto-regenerating health.

Sounds very Halo-ish to me.

I just hope I was being lied to.

Can't say, all DICE said was that you don't need to level up to gain new weapons as there will be multiple weapon packs. They didn't say specifically how many classes there would be though.
Edit: Yes there is 3 classes, each have 2 uses though. The Rifleman specializes in Long Range and....anti something (button commands are blocking his uses in the video), Infantry specializes in short-medium range and anti tank, and the scout specializes in sniping and demolitions. So technically, the took the other classes and put them together to make 3 classes each with 3 weapons kits. Now that may sound odd, but I think that is kind of convenient now that you don't have like 5 classes, each with one use(or none at all, damn assault class in 1942 D:<) so choosing is much easier now. Here is a cam video from Comic Con: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45234.html it shows game play as well and it looks pretty good, but for some reason it looks cartoony.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: xanque on February 07, 2009, 11:46:11 pm
How the hell are they keeping the game under 350 mb?  That's amazing. 

I've missed the Battlefield series.  Battlefront helped me get over it though.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on February 08, 2009, 02:40:22 am
Bad Company wasn't bad though, it was just more story driven(and pretty funny too) and the multiplayer was solid.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on July 08, 2009, 10:12:12 pm
Well, the game just released today on the Xbox 360! I downloaded it an hour ago and went on only to find that I cannot connect to servers. It will stay on the window that says "Searching for Games" and it won't join any. I understand that there was going to be some server issues, but I never expected it to be THIS bad....
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Brad on July 09, 2009, 06:56:39 pm
I've been trying to play this but I keep getting errors, can't wait though.

When it comes to the console available battlefields, I was really disappointed with Bad Company. BF2: Modern Combat was easily the best multiplayer experience I've ever had, and I have so many fond memories. (This was back on ps2, the one released for 360 had changes to it but it was still okay..)

And for some reason it seemed to be the only game in console existence that I know of where you could simply highlight a players name during gameplay and check out a very detailed stats briefing (kills/deaths, vehicles destroyed , medals earned etc) where in new titles like Call of Duty you can't even check people's stats in the menus... Seriously... STATS = <3

I no longer own a ps2 but I've been thinking about buying one just for this game.. cause on 360 this game is completely dead and youll usually find one server online playing the same boring maps over and over again..

But apparently on ps2 it has even more people than Bad Company..  :fogetsmile:

Ahh... the memories..

I used to be about as good as this guy; basically CTF on this map, Bridge Too Far, I'd play over and over again.. actually with this weapon as well.. (although this guy is playing the conquest mode)

Tapping L2 twice really fast made your guy belly flop like that, a really good tactic and for some reason really damn fun.

Oh also these were the greatest graphics I've ever seen on ps2 except for maybe God of War..
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: esp on July 11, 2009, 05:21:45 pm
It's a good game but...

It's taken me like 3 days AFTER buying it to experience playing it properly. I had a couple of quick games before that but the servers have been SO BAD that it's been almost impossible to get in a game since launch. It seems a lot better now but I still get random freezing and lag in some games (this is on XB360).

Other than that yeah it's pretty good. My main gripes are how the Infantry class weapon is utterly pathetic and just loses to the Rifleman. In fact everyone might as well be the Rifleman except on Guadalcanal where the Scout is pretty good. Seriously, it's by far the strongest of the three.

I've had a few bugs too, namely, when flying a plane, your plane just totally locks out and plummets to the sea with nothing whatsoever you can do about it. Also random black spikes appearing all around the map, a weird graphical bug.

Still I'm enjoying it, really like Iwo-Jima, that's a really cool map. It's worth the cheap price, though I hope they will add more maps. 47 million worldwide kills on Xbox/PS3/PC will unlock a new map apparently, called Coral Sea, which is exclusively planes, so it will be just one big dogfight!
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on July 12, 2009, 02:55:20 am
It's a good game but...

It's taken me like 3 days AFTER buying it to experience playing it properly. I had a couple of quick games before that but the servers have been SO BAD that it's been almost impossible to get in a game since launch. It seems a lot better now but I still get random freezing and lag in some games (this is on XB360).

Other than that yeah it's pretty good. My main gripes are how the Infantry class weapon is utterly pathetic and just loses to the Rifleman. In fact everyone might as well be the Rifleman except on Guadalcanal where the Scout is pretty good. Seriously, it's by far the strongest of the three.

I've had a few bugs too, namely, when flying a plane, your plane just totally locks out and plummets to the sea with nothing whatsoever you can do about it. Also random black spikes appearing all around the map, a weird graphical bug.

Still I'm enjoying it, really like Iwo-Jima, that's a really cool map. It's worth the cheap price, though I hope they will add more maps. 47 million worldwide kills on Xbox/PS3/PC will unlock a new map apparently, called Coral Sea, which is exclusively planes, so it will be just one big dogfight!
EA's servers have gotten better, but they are still a bit buggy. Currently I am rank...I think fifteen and my favorite map is Guadal Canal because of how huge and beautiful it is. Also, I personally like all classes, I can kill people with the infantry's weapon just as well a the riflemen but only when up at medium/close range but then again thats what the infantry specializes in. Plus I don't think one should just play as the Riflemen all the time as rifle grenades are fucking useless against tanks making the soldier's missile launcher much more effective. I did see that weird spike glitch too, but i didn't see that with the planes(since I barely get to fly them since just like in good ol' 1942, they whore the fucking planes). I am best with both Infantry and Rifleman but I suck terribly with the scout mainly cause I suck at sniping in general :/. I am also amazed at how fast the kill count is going up, its got over 21,000,000 kills already as of now(they are combining PS3 kills and 360 kills) and it is constantly going up, at this rate coral sea will be ours in like another 2 or 3 days.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Brad on July 13, 2009, 06:45:19 pm
So I went through my 30 minute trial, and the second half I utterly kicked ass with the rifleman class.. Just point, don't think about lining up perfectly and just giver shit. \\Ownage\\

but anyways, say if I deleted this & re-downloaded it would I get another 30 minutes?
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on July 14, 2009, 01:38:36 am
Nope, they make you buy the game because the people at EA are douche bags and aren't giving us a demo like 1942(where you could only play wake island, but there was no damn time limit). Also I found out that they aren't combinding PS3 and 360 kills, I misread that. We 360 owners are very close though as we have over 35 million and ps3 has only 19 million at the time i posted this. PS3 should really get more players into this, then again their community has less people than xbox but 19 million is still pretty good.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Brad on July 14, 2009, 01:47:13 am
Well that sucks, this looks like pointless arcade fun I'd want to have but I just don't want to pay 1200 points for it. I already have Bad Company, but hardly ever play, and I'm already committed to saving up ms points for all the Fallout 3 DLC.. which would force me to dish out about 50$+

Maybe sometime in the future I'll think about getting this, when my work hours get better. :/
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on July 14, 2009, 01:50:40 am
You definitely should, I have a feeling that the servers will be loaded for a long time to come since it made most popular arcade game in just 1 or 2 days! I am having fun with it and I am glad the servers are working almost 100%!
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Brad on July 14, 2009, 01:53:45 am
Yea, maybe eventually. I did dish out 20$ for castle crashers at a time where I had no real source of income - and that game's only good really for local play.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Rowain on July 31, 2009, 10:53:41 pm
hey so this is a lot of goofy fun! It's so quick and easy to get into, spawn times are nice and short so the action is fast and it's just a lot of fun! The server problems seem to be fixed - the only disconnect or failed connection I had was when my ISP accidentally physically DISCONNECTED me from the internet which obviously isnt EA/DICE's fault.

I especially like Air Superiority, the dog fighting is really fun once you get the hang of the controls. I've had some ridiculous ACTION MOVIE moments of diving through those natural rock archways trying to shake guys off my tail. It's a shame so many people try to camp the spawn points on the carriers though.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liman on August 01, 2009, 11:52:52 am
Gotta agree with everything above, especially Air Superiority.
You quickly forget that this is just an Arcade game - easily the best of the bunch too.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on August 01, 2009, 03:03:46 pm
I especially like Air Superiority, the dog fighting is really fun once you get the hang of the controls. I've had some ridiculous ACTION MOVIE moments of diving through those natural rock archways trying to shake guys off my tail. It's a shame so many people try to camp the spawn points on the carriers though.
Yeah, as much as I love that mode camping is annoying. Not to mention that sometimes, everyone spawns on one aircraft carrier and not the other one. I sometimes see this happen, I could spawn on a carrier with like three or four people waiting for a plane and then there is another carrier with 2 planes on it, and nobody would spawn on it! I wish the carriers still had the rope ladders from 1943, so you can get back up if you fall or want to go on another carrier without flying there. Oh well the game is still good though.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Rowain on August 01, 2009, 06:34:23 pm
Soooo people playing it on XBLA, what're your tags? It's boring that no one uses voice chat or bothers to do any real coordinating in public games, I'd love to play with a few people who would actually try a bit of teamwork. I try calling out positions to people in my squad but they never show the slightest interest and just stand around while they get capped like chumps.

Also is it just me or is it way easier playing in first person in vehicles? Yeah you get more visibility around you in third person, but I find it WAY easier lining up shots in a tank or plane in first person. Planes it general feel much easier to fly in the cockpit view too, and I'm not sure why. it just feels a lot more natural.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Brad on August 01, 2009, 07:27:20 pm
Yeah back in my battlefield days, using tanks and helicopters switching from 1st to 3rd person was really a tactical move. Always use first to aim and engage, third person to swiftly check around your area.

I'm really wanting to buy this though, I got paid yesterday but my bank is closed till tuesday, so I can only take out 20 a day for now. Plus on Sunday it's my best friend's 19th, so, yeah.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: goat on August 15, 2009, 08:19:04 pm
I would be buying this right now if it was out for PC. BF 1942 was a hilariously fun ww2 game, and I'm a sucker for graphical touch-ups.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Brown on August 15, 2009, 08:33:43 pm
aside from wake island, the game gets kinda boring.
Title: Battlefield 1943(XBLA)
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on August 15, 2009, 10:25:02 pm
aside from wake island, the game gets kinda boring.
admittedly, yes. Now I am waiting until they come out with a map pack or something, hell even Wake is getting a bit boring as well....