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General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: Dissonance on February 11, 2009, 08:36:20 am
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(This is a topic I made on .org, I'd like to repost it here as I feel it would get a much higher quality of response/discussion here than there. Just in case it seems familiar to the few of you that go to both places.)
I have a friend who, on a semi-regular basis, gives me flack about what I do with my spare time. "Why would you waste all your time inside staring at some sort of screen," he'd say while waving his arm toward two billowing curtains draping a large window with a bluer-than-blue sky and greener-than-green grass with a big yellow smiley face sun and a bunny hopping behind a bush, "when there's a whole world out there?"
Now because he's my friend, I generally don't feel anything threatening by it. However my parents, when I still talked to them regularly, made the same criticisms of my life, and when I was still totally dependant on them (as well as being a good lil' girl) I found them to hold a bit more weight. But this time, I decided to look back on the subject a little closer, as my friend brought it up again and we got into the topic a bit more this time.
Now I expect the average response to be "Well if you like doing it, and you can afford to do it, why not do it?" Another individual I've met, a nursing student now off on her final year placement, mentioned once that "an addiction is medically classified a hobby that you begin to do instead of essentials, like sleep/eat/work/etc. So if you're doing everything you need for survival, and then spending every other waking moment on one activity, you're not an addict." Which is fine, really. These two responses are the same things I use to justify spending most of my recreational time playing video games, surfing the net, and watching television/movies/anime/etc.
But what if there's a bit more to it than that?
Here let me frame this with a portion of our conversation as my thoughts are a little jumbled:
Him: Why not go out there and experience life?
Me: I've seen your list of things you call "life" (it consists of hanging out with friends, being sociable, going to movies or concerts or bars or parties, attending interesting lectures or book readings at university, etc) and none of them interest me, I would rather forge my own definition of "life" based on my own hobbies and preferences.
Him: Well what do you consider "life" then, I mean you don't seem to care about self-improvement and your only form of self-gratification is gained by retreating into games. You're a shut-in.
Me: The words we use code underlying meanings, like the fact that you believe I "retreat into games" rather than the more positively worded "Exploring games" or just "playing games".
Him: You retreat into games specifically because you're hiding from the rest of the world.
Me: What if i'm not hiding, I just have no interest in anything that goes on out there?
You can kind of get the idea. His argument is that there's a whole lot of interesting stuff out there and that I'm throwing myself away by simply staying inside - sure ultimately I can say "fuck off sonny it's my life" but he IS my friend and I can't help but feeling like he's warning me about something I've overlooked. However on the other hand my argument is that I HAVE been outside, I HAVE participated in a lot of social events (from drama to sports to dorm-room style get-together activity house point bullshit to outdoorsey hobbies like fishing or rock climbing or hiking or whatever,) and found NONE of them to be appealing whatsoever.
Me: Your issue with what I do is that all the things i derive pleasure from, be they computers, games, internet, books, etc, are all indoor and solitary activities... what's wrong with that
Him: All things in moderation.
Me: But what's the point of having them in moderation if I've already explored other options and found them to be unenjoyable?
In the end this invariably leads back to his vague definition of "enjoying life", which generally means (for him) social interaction with others. I go to school and I hold down a job. I have profs I don't like, classmates I don't like, roommates I don't like, coworkers I don't like, and customers I don't like. I almost invariably find other people to be hell - just things I need to deal with so I can go the fuck home and do what I like to do. However, he (and he is in the vast majority in our society) hold up this social interaction as one of the greatest of life's experiences.
Him: Life is comedy between pals, fighting and rivalry friendly-style between them, the same with enemies as well, though to a lesser extent.
Me: I don't find this to be appealing, I've only experienced it a rare few times and it's nothing special.
Him: But those rare few times are what you should be living for! You should be looking back at the end of your life thinking of those moments and saying "That was the best experience of my life!"
Me: I don't want to live stringing together snippets of "best time evar" memories together on a cheap plastic Bratz do-it-yourself necklace kit. Maybe other people can live their life like that, but I can't.
I don't want to have a life where I force myself to like a group of people so I can create memories with them and constantly relive those memories when those people aren't around. People like this, these socialites end up marrying the first person they find that can stand them not out of any kind of love but out of sheer loneliness and fear of being alone at death. They have children that walk all over them with a mate they didn't like, and spend the rest of their years looking back on the "hight of their life" with a heaving sigh.
I don't want that. And I've found that immersing myself in other worlds than the "real" one - video games, shows, movies, anime, books, novels, the INTERNET - I am constantly bombarded by new experiences, new ways of thought, new ways of viewing reality... Why should I give this up for a few "timeless memories" that I can pine away for as I grow old and crusty? It's like an old grumpy saggy titty woman looking at her high school yearbook photo of her being a cheerleader.
Think about it, we've probably all done this one before. Ever sat at the computer at maybe 7 PM and opened an interesting wikipedia link, and read, and thought it was really intriguing so you opened related topics and read them, and kept absorbing more information, and being genuinely entertained on a semi-intellectual level by reading all of this neat stuff, and suddenly holy crap it's 3 AM I have work in four hours oh shit oh shit oh shit. We've all done that, we all know what it's like. This is a prime example of the kind of thing I'm talking about. You'll probably never remember the stuff you read about, but while you were reading you were, on some level, being intellectually stimulated. If you could constantly do this, be exposed to new methods of thought, new philosophies, new theories, new stories, new ways of being entertained... would you give it up?
Is it so bad that I enjoy isolation from other people? I still go to school, go to work, pay my bills - do everything required to fill survival needs and any other responsibilities. Any time, money, energy etc I have left over when those tasks are accomplished I can do with what I want, so why is there such a massive push to be social, especially on those who have no desire to be? Why should I force myself to attend events I'm not interested in to see people I don't like? How did the 'unhealthy' label even get applied to people living this way? Is it because they don't have any friends or they don't go out? But if they WILLINGLY have no friends and have no desire to go out, is that unhealthy? Why is the 'unhealthy' label slapped to people who simply want to do what they need to do socially to live and then be left to their own devices?
tl;dr - Is it so bad to avoid social interaction and isolate yourself from others? If you willingly do it, derive pleasure from it, enjoy your life, and still manage to not act unadjusted when you DO go into public, can you still be labeled psychologically unhealthy?
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Hahahahahahaha okay.
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are there things more important to you than survival and video games?
Nevermind that question. If you isolate yourself from other people, how are you supposed to really learn anything? You can't understand people if you don't try to understand people. I just don't see how that can be healthy.
How old are you?
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Him: You should like what I like.
You: No.
Him:: Yes.
You: No.
imo a lot of people are a waste of time but there are a few gems here and there. I tend to limit my social interaction because I'm fairly misanthropic so I don't see what's so bad about being a 'shut in' (although I'm not I can understand it somewhat).
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Yeah I'm a bit of a loner most of the time too.
Not by choice as much as I used to anymore, though. I like talking to people and meeting new people and it doesn't really matter how boring/stupid they are because I'll only stay around them for small doses if that turns out to be the case.
Frankly, being alone fucking sucks. You can kid yourself and bullshit all you want but it starts to get old really fast and you're going to want to connect (at least on a base level) with basically anyone once you get to a certain point.
to be like "heh, I don't need you people..." is really dumb because being around people even if they aren't like you, fills a certain void that will fuck you up over time if you let it.
Its a constant challenge and battle with yourself and others though. I've met some people who seemed pretty cool but other traits like rampant idiocy, immaturity, self-absorption and generally CONFLICT OF INTEREST will really really ruin that for me and I just can't be around folks like that for very long because it eats away at me and just DRAINS ENERGY!
But then again if I lock myself in my room all the time then I'll be even more miserable in the end. So I'll go out every now and then and hang out with the few people I know until they irritate the living shit out of me, at which point I'll return to the batcave until I need human interaction again.
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when i was in homeschool, i had my brother and for a year my sister to talk to and that was pretty much it most of the time. that is, until she decided to start doing drugs and after she was done with that, had a baby. i think my sister ultimately ended up the happiest out of all of us because she actually got out and talked to people. at least until I finally got out of homeschool. I'm pretty damn happy these days and have plenty of people to talk to. College is good like that.
she's still smoking weed and is probably one of the happiest people I know.
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you're a loser
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I can relate. I used to get the EXACT same shit from my dad... but he did it so often and was around so often as well as having the power to actually take video games and computer AWAY from me, literally made me, by habit, stop playing video games and computers after a certain amount of time... he INGRAINED it in me... and it drives me nuts because I end up quitting and then doing the equivalent of nothing... its like he built a mental block keeping me from enjoying the things I like...
I also could care less about other activities in THE GREAT OUTDOORS or FAMILY EVENTS and shit. Hell my friends had to drag me to the Renfest last week because all I wanted to do was watch movies and play video games.
however on the topic of "being social" however I disagree with both you and your friend. I mean technically you are socializing with your friend when you talking to him about socializing. Your friend is trying to push what he thinks is fun on to you... (which Farmrush has already effectively explained)
Posting on this forum is technically a form of socialization, playing video games online can potentially be social (though socialization is typically better at LAN parties or those casual splitscreen gaming weekends). I mean JUST GOING OUT THERE isn't the only way you can socialize.
Socialization comes in many forms, and can be and has been adapted to the stuff you like... so socialize through those things.
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Cool! Have fun being isolated, socially crippled, and limiting your experiences in life to the realms of videogames and anime where every decision has already been made for you and all you've got to do is sit there passively and soak it in like a sponge.
whatever charges your batteries i guess
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talking on a forum is not the same as sitting down and talking to someone in person. i don't know a whole lot but i know this. just going out there is not the only way to socialize, but it is also not equivalent to playing nude poker online.
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Cool! Have fun being isolated, socially crippled, and limiting your experiences in life to the realms of videogames and anime where every decision has already been made for you and all you've got to do is sit there passively and soak it in like a sponge.
whatever charges your batteries i guess
but she said that she tried other stuff, she just stopped because it bored her, so she HASN'T limited her experiences. and I'm not quite understanding you on the "every decision has been made for you" when it comes to anime and movies, etc your not making decisions but that's not the point and in video games that is only the case in some games on typically only in single player campaigns.
talking on a forum is not the same as sitting down and talking to someone in person. i don't know a whole lot but i know this. just going out there is not the only way to socialize, but it is not equivalent to playing nude poker online.
I never said it was... I said it is another form of socialization. It isn't necessarily a strong one, but it is a form of it.
EDIT: Have you tried playing D&D or GURPS with a big group of friends, Dissonance?
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gurps. i play gurps all the time. Im a bit of a gurpser. Got to get my gurps on all the time. I was a gurper since I was a baby.
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but she said that she tried other stuff, she just stopped because it bored her, so she HASN'T limited her experiences.
something tells me she hasn't gone out and tried everything the outside world has to offer, or has even made much of an effort.
and I'm not quite understanding you on the "every decision has been made for you" when it comes to anime and movies, etc your not making decisions but that's not the point and in video games that is only the case in some games on typically only in single player campaigns.
in videogames you are interacting with a predetermined environment that someone has programmed for you, there are no decisions you can make in videogames that have not already been made by the designers of the limited virtual environment. In movies you're not even interacting at all. These things are fine to enjoy a little bit at a time, but to decide that you're going to forgo real life and instead put this shit at the center of your existence is really pathetic.
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gurps. i play gurps all the time. Im a bit of a gurpser. Got to get my gurps on all the time. I was a gurper since I was a baby.
LOL... ok maybe I should have explained what GURPS is, and also the question obviously wasn't pointed at you... but whatever
GURPS stands for Generic Universal RolePlaying System. It basically an alternative to D&D (a better one in my humble opinion) because everything in it is based at least somewhat in reality and you don't have to play only in a medieval fantasy world.
something tells me she hasn't gone out and tried everything the outside world has to offer, or has even made much of an effort.in videogames you are interacting with a predetermined environment that someone has programmed for you, there are no decisions you can make in videogames that have not already been made by the designers of the limited virtual environment.
You are likely correct, but you don't know for certain. Even so, she may have tried to the point where it leaves her with the impression that there isn't anything that she'd like outside of the real of such entertainment, like real life: 0, Video games and other media and internet: BAZILLION
also, Video Games are reaching a point where the environment isn't so limited. And real life is limited to. There is a time limit, you only have 1 life and no saving, and almost all repercussions are permanent. then there is PAIN, which you don't feel in a video game... I'll admit, arguing against REAL LIFE is sort of absurd but eh yeah...
In movies you're not even interacting at all. These things are fine to enjoy a little bit at a time, but to decide that you're going to forgo real life and instead put this shit at the center of your existence is really pathetic.
Like I said... interaction isn't the point of films so your argument against them is puzzling to me.
Who said she has completely forgone everything else in life.
and yeah again I'll admit the question may seem absurd to you: Why is it pathetic to focus on such things?
lots of people focus on single things through out their life, great people.
Do you not think it is possible for someone to just not like anything else other then video games, anime, movies, etc?
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why make a post about this if you don't think there is anything wrong with it? why ask the very same people you want to be isolated from to give opinions on the matter? the very fact you have at least one friend suggests you have some social capacity, though from what you say it doesn't appear to be very strong. it seems to me that the people you see regularly do not share many of the same interests you do, so clearly you will have difficulty with any social interactions involving them.
if you are asking from an academic standpoint, it means nothing because with the life you'd like to live it does not matter what other people think about you. i don't know how you can say that you see people mostly as obstacles but then turn around and take to heart what they are telling you in regards to how you are living your life. you care a lot more than you would like to believe, the creation of this topic is an indicator of that. if you met people more ideal for you they wouldn't be asking you these questions and you'd be doing different kinds of social interactions that don't necessarily involve going out.
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You are likely correct, but you don't know for certain. Even so, she may have tried to the point where it leaves her with the impression that there isn't anything that she'd like outside of the real of such entertainment, like real life: 0, Video games and other media and internet: BAZILLION
If you don't see anything sad or pathetic about that then I guess there's not a whole lot we can agree on here.
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Him: Why not go out there and experience life?
Me: I've seen your list of things you call "life" (it consists of hanging out with friends, being sociable, going to movies or concerts or bars or parties, attending interesting lectures or book readings at university, etc) and none of them interest me, I would rather forge my own definition of "life" based on my own hobbies and preferences.
Him: Well what do you consider "life" then, I mean you don't seem to care about self-improvement and your only form of self-gratification is gained by retreating into games. You're a shut-in.
Me: The words we use code underlying meanings, like the fact that you believe I "retreat into games" rather than the more positively worded "Exploring games" or just "playing games".
Him: You retreat into games specifically because you're hiding from the rest of the world.
Me: What if i'm not hiding, I just have no interest in anything that goes on out there?
i'm all for spending plenty of time on the internet but if you seriously talk to people like this you need to like....TAKE A CLASS IN CONVERSATION or something because it's obvious you have no idea how to talk to a human being
edit: oh man
People like this, these socialites end up marrying the first person they find that can stand them not out of any kind of love but out of sheer loneliness and fear of being alone at death.
socialites good lord, SOCIALITES
listen, you are going to have a shitty fucking life if you don't stop acting like every single person is the worst human being, if you hate talking to people so much there's no reason to be on a message board, since we're people too. i see people like this all the time who complain about "people? heh, nah, they aren't for me" and i have yet to meet one who's happy. you don't have to meet all of the goals like "get married, have some kids, etc." to go out and talk to some people and be happy, but just sitting alone all day reading wikipedia? that's not a life. you can tell me it's just a different kind of life and you don't like everyone else's view of life, but that is not a life
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also, Video Games are reaching a point where the environment isn't so limited. And real life is limited to. There is a time limit, you only have 1 life and no saving, and almost all repercussions are permanent. then there is PAIN, which you don't feel in a video game... I'll admit, arguing against REAL LIFE is sort of absurd but eh yeah...
You..... you didn't just say this. Good fucking god.
This is possibly the best post I've ever read on GW.
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video games are better than real life because you can be werewolf sonic
can you be werewolf sonic in real life??? I THINK YOU'LL FIND THE ANSWER IS NO
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Deprivation from social interaction may seem like a good idea in the short term, but it will eventually torment you constantly, and it might be too late to build a social network once you realize it. I have unfortunately had first hand experience with clinical depression and it kept me out of many social opportunities that I found in retrospect to be immensely valuable. I would rather not another person go through the same sort of suffering.
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hey can you clarify something for me, you posted this in the valentines day topic:
I'm hoping to do nothing but she'll probably yell at me for that.
does this mean you have a girlfriend but you're constantly hiding from the world playing video games and trying to avoid going out with her? because that makes no sense whatsoever and i'd probably dump you tbh, not over valentines day but just how can you date someone who can't deal with other human beings?
edit: also you are a girl, just saying in case others didn't realize it because i didn't until just now
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waving his arm toward two billowing curtains draping a large window with a bluer-than-blue sky and greener-than-green grass with a big yellow smiley face sun and a bunny hopping behind a bush
haha people nah i don't need people. i'm perfectly fine just sitting here with my bag of adjectives. let's see... I got RED! :)
"when are you going to get some real adjectives? your posts sound like a 3rd grade english paper."
Hush, you. You don't have the capability to understand my superior quality of life, how can you expect to understand my superior use of adjectives? Externally it may not seem too sophisticated, but at the heart they're the most beautiful adjectives in the world. *vomits*
"What the hell?"
Oh, i do that sometimes. My body purges itself, it's part of my quality of life. I find that regular purging makes me feel better.
"You know that's bad for you?"
No it's not. You just don't agree with it. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad for you.
"...Why do i still talk to you" *leaveS*
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After reading some of your other posts, I've figured your problem out: you already know global warming is going to ruin the planet soon so there's no reason to worry about life. Why live life when we're all going to die anyway?
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also, Video Games are reaching a point where the environment isn't so limited. And real life is limited to. There is a time limit, you only have 1 life and no saving, and almost all repercussions are permanent. then there is PAIN, which you don't feel in a video game... I'll admit, arguing against REAL LIFE is sort of absurd but eh yeah...
There's a simple solution to this... don't be a failtroll IRL like you would in trade chat on WoW. If life came with a reset button, would we ever press it? I think not, since we're bound to make a different mistake and have to do the whole thing over again and get nowhere in life when maybe this mistake would lead to a better outcome in the long run?
But to the poster of this thread, you may feel fine with having "online friends" but I can assure you that they are NOT your "friends" per se. Someday the joys of the internet will fall to the wayside (or you'll lose the internet/your computer), and you won't have this "lifestyle" any more... and the friends you could have had in real life would still be there. What I would suggest is not being a complete "shut-in" and making at least a few real life friends and socializing with them offline, hanging out and what-have-you. I mean sure, you COULD socialize with people online but before you know it, it'll become a "can you help me PK this camping N00B in STV?" and you really don't want to be an attack dog for your "friends". I can understand if the people you are -forced- to deal with bug the hell out of you, but living each freelance moment in your house playing MMORPGs and watching Naruto will just lead you into further depression. The days will blend together and you will be left wondering just why the hell you spent this long inside instead of going out and actually doing something productive with your life aside from the "necessary skeleton" of supporting yourself.
As a parting note... You can be a virgin until you're old and gray and you don't have to be a sports champion or be able to run a marathon everyday, but getting outside and communicating with the people around us is an essential part of what we were put on this earth to do. Letting our bodies fall to pieces while browsing the internet, no matter how strong our minds become, will not a happy and long life make.
EDIT: Pardon my mistakes, didn't take the time to really look into things as much as I should have. :shady:
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There's a simple solution to this... don't be a failtroll IRL like you would in trade chat on WoW
there's also a simple solution for the internet: don't say shit like failtroll ever
edit: also learn what freelance means it doesn't mean the same thing as just plain free
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why make a post about this if you don't think there is anything wrong with it? why ask the very same people you want to be isolated from to give opinions on the matter?
Discussion purposes. To see if I really am the only person who doesn't have a problem with this kind of activity. Also, I guess I wasn't clear - I'm not talking about boarding myself up in my hose for years on end and never seeing another soul. I do have two people I'd call friends, am in a successful relationship, and socialize with people as necessary during work, school, or shopping. My significant other is a little bit of a party bug but she doesn't seem to care that I'm not interested in that.
I suppose the ideas I really wanted to open to to discussion were, Is it fine not to want to be a part of the huge social mechanisms of society? Is it fine to really only have one or two pals and not give a shit about meeting anybody new? Or, perhaps, is internet socialization the same as outdoor socialization? To be honest, I think they're a lot closer than people think. You can still form trust, emotional bonds, you can still do fun things together, and you can also still be tricked, lied to, or hurt. In terms of pure emotion I think they can be equal, if you can move past the stigma of "LOL INTERNET FREINDS U LOSER"
But that's just me.
does this mean you have a girlfriend but you're constantly hiding from the world playing video games and trying to avoid going out with her? because that makes no sense whatsoever and i'd probably dump you tbh, not over valentines day but just how can you date someone who can't deal with other human beings?
No, generally when we spend time together we're either gaming or watching tv. Occasionally we go to the movie theatre. Most of the other entertainment in this town (that doesn't involve drinking/bars/clubbing) is all outdoorsy stuff, hunting, fishing, hiking, rock climbing, camping etc, and neither of us are interested. So we generally just watch movies. She likes to go to university parties and head out to bars and all that, but I don't.
i'm all for spending plenty of time on the internet but if you seriously talk to people like this you need to like....TAKE A CLASS IN CONVERSATION or something because it's obvious you have no idea how to talk to a human being
Of course not, I was just paraphrasing.
listen, you are going to have a shitty fucking life if you don't stop acting like every single person is the worst human being, if you hate talking to people so much there's no reason to be on a message board, since we're people too.
But that's the thing about the internet. Despite our distances we can still talk like this, right now. What if one of my hobbies was, instead of game making, necrophilia or something. I'm quite sure I can't walk down the street and find somebody on my block interested in necrophilia, but I'm sure there's online communities about it somewhere. I've been where I am for four years now, and I haven't once found anybody else interested in amateur game making. The internet is an extremely useful tool in the context of this topic because it creates social communities for people where they might not exist in real life.
I don't hate people or anything like that, I just don't see the point in socializing when you have no common interests with the other person whatsoever - and considering that (despite all of my attempts to find something new to do,) my interests are still pretty limited, it limits the number of people I'd care to speak with. But on the internet, that's not true at all. Despite most likely not living near any of you, I can come to GW (or other sites) and talk about amateur game making if I so choose with large groups of people who are entirely real. Just cause you're bangin' on a keyboard doesn't make you less of a person.
Have you tried playing D&D or GURPS with a big group of friends, Dissonance?
No, but it sounds like the most horrendous thing imaginable.
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you play gurps alone...
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what's a failtroll?
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is it like a finntroll?
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maybe he meant muds
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Two friends huh? That's a lot how do you keep up with them?
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I think what he's doing is he's trying to argue something specific with you, but there's a more general issue at the core of the matter he's not addressing.
The main point of the issue is that you don't enjoy social activities, so you find other activities and spend your free time on those exclusivley. He argues that you are retreating or hiding yourself from the rest of the world by only enjoying solitary activities, and your defense is that you simply have no interest or get no enjoyment from social activies so you have no compuslion towards them and concider it part of a perfectly plausable disposition.
As to whether or not your preference is plausable or healthy all depends on why you have that preference in the first place. What is it about social events that keeps you from enjoying them? It would seem like it's a pointless thing to think about since you don't have any interest in them, but maybe you are unable to enjoy social situations simply because you don't do well in social conditions. Like, your freind who frequently enjoys social situations does so because he is much more capable of getting out of them the things that makes being socialble an enjoyable thing.
I've always felt that way about my preference for isolation in my free time, and it's followed me my entire life. And yet I've been constantly forced by the conditions life gives me (humans are inheritly social beings, and it shows in the way society imposes itself on you on a daily basis), to get out of that comfort zone and experience social things. I still perfer solitary activities, (or if they are social, it just involves a few freinds in a very casual setting) but the more and more I find myself out there doing things in a way I'm not fully comfortable or content, the more capable I find myself when it comes to handling those situations, and maybe getting a few positive things from the experience because of it.
I think your freind is concerned because your ability to function in society (at one level or another) is very much determined by your ability to interact with other people in social situations. It's not like you should change your interests or what kind of person you are, but you shouldn't shy away from a new experience just because you are uncomfortable with it. Be open to try new things once in a while. If you go out with your freind maybe once a week, then he'll most likely stop bitching about your habits involving interacting with glowing screens of computational information, and doing something you don't enjoy every once in a while won't kill you. If you are lucky, you might end up enjoying it more than you'd think (once you get used to it that is).
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I'm quite sure I can't walk down the street and find somebody on my block interested in necrophilia
Gaming and game making are much more common though, this is a terrible analogy. Maybe you just haven't tried hard enough to find people interested in it, because you seem like the kind of person who doesn't go out of their way to find people to be friends with. It's like you've given up on the whole concept, and that's why you use the internet as a replacement.
Plus, game making can't be your ONLY interest, don't base your possible friendships solely on that one interest. Some of my best friends in the past have been people that I shared only a few similar interests with, but who I just really got along with on a personal level. Try meeting people for the sake of meeting people. Fuck, maybe you could GET someone you get along with into game making, just because you can't find anyone into it doesn't mean giving up forever.
Of course not, I was just paraphrasing.
How do you paraphrase something into a conversation where you talk like the least-liked member of a debate team? I don't understand how you could take a conversation where you didn't talk like that and turn it into one.
Besides that, all I can really say that I haven't already is that I agree with this:
I think your freind is concerned because your ability to function in society (at one level or another) is very much determined by your ability to interact with other people in social situations. It's not like you should change your interests or what kind of person you are, but you shouldn't shy away from a new experience just because you are uncomfortable with it. Be open to try new things once in a while. If you go out with your freind maybe once a week, then he'll most likely stop bitching about your habits involving interacting with glowing screens of computational information, and doing something you don't enjoy every once in a while won't kill you. If you are lucky, you might end up enjoying it more than you'd think (once you get used to it that is).
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yeah you are an addict man, you are an addict to being a weird-o
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Gaming and game making are much more common though, this is a terrible analogy. Maybe you just haven't tried hard enough to find people interested in it, because you seem like the kind of person who doesn't go out of their way to find people to be friends with. It's like you've given up on the whole concept, and that's why you use the internet as a replacement.
Plus, game making can't be your ONLY interest, don't base your possible friendships solely on that one interest. Some of my best friends in the past have been people that I shared only a few similar interests with, but who I just really got along with on a personal level. Try meeting people for the sake of meeting people. Fuck, maybe you could GET someone you get along with into game making, just because you can't find anyone into it doesn't mean giving up forever.
Pretty much this. I was the same way when I was, like, fourteen, but you learn to get over it and (usually) appreciate the merits of interacting with and becoming closer to other people. If you're really that fixated on GAMING/ANIME/MOVIES (or whatever) just wait until you get to college maybe? I think a lot of people tend to discard the silly stigma they have for talking about "socially unacceptable," things when they get out of high school and are allowed to be themselves.
I know your entire argument is essentially "why do other things when I don't want to?" but I feel like that's pretty nonsense logic. Why go to school, worry about your hygiene, or take care of yourself? Why even get up in the morning? =/
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Also, I lived in the tiniest fucking town in Kentucky and I knew at LEAST two or three people into game making. You aren't trying hard enough.
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whats a muds?
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whats a muds?
it's somewhere between a chatroom and a multiplayer text adventure
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while waving his arm toward two billowing curtains draping a large window with a bluer-than-blue sky and greener-than-green grass with a big yellow smiley face sun and a bunny hopping behind a bush
yo if you talked to people you'd realize how horribly forced this is.
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something tells me she hasn't gone out and tried everything the outside world has to offer, or has even made much of an effort.
this pretty much. once you grow up a bit you'll realize how enormously fucking stupid you're being.
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"Life," heh. If thats what you call "Life" then i'll have none of it. Come talk to me later, I have gaming to do.
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it's somewhere between a chatroom and a multiplayer text adventure
so... an rp forum :fogethuh:
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oh man this thread.
socialites.
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Also, I lived in the tiniest fucking town in Kentucky and I knew at LEAST two or three people into game making. You aren't trying hard enough.
Lucky you. Of all the people I know, I am the only one interested in game making and as for gaming, we are not a lot. Beyond that, the only activity in my town is getting drunk and the only times I went to the town's local bar, I was like, one of the only person who was actually over 18. It is filled with 14-15 years old girls.
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man why wont you enjoy hanging around with ppl. i mean, i dont mean you becoming somesort of bro faggot and partying 24/7 but hmmm you said you liked anime and videogames, why not hang around with people who like that boring shit. you enjoy videogames 300000000000000000000000000% more if you play it with bros!!!!!!!!!
i mean you give off the vibe of ..........heh ppl.....who needs em...........while thinkin you are the tough shit and "different". let me tell ya somethin, there are another billion faggots out there who spend their evenings watching anime and playing videogames. theres nothing particularly unique about you. why not meet other people like that?
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I don't know for sure but I got the impression she's in college. College is all ABOUT growing up and learning to function in society, so maybe you should get on the ball with that a little.
Lucky you. Of all the people I know, I am the only one interested in game making and as for gaming, we are not a lot. Beyond that, the only activity in my town is getting drunk and the only times I went to the town's local bar, I was like, one of the only person who was actually over 18. It is filled with 14-15 years old girls.
Then I say you aren't trying hard enough either, trust me, if I can find people, there's no reason that anyone else can't find at least ONE person in their town. There are almost no gamers in my town either, doesn't mean I couldn't find a few.
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I'm quite sure I can't walk down the street and find somebody on my block interested in necrophilia.
I totally know how you feel on this one. I can't seem to find anybody with similar interests to me. I usually just end up in the graveyard by myself with a couple of "dead heads". And I'm not talking about grateful dead fans either, Heh.
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I don't know for sure but I got the impression she's in college. College is all ABOUT growing up and learning to function in society, so maybe you should get on the ball with that a little.
Then I say you aren't trying hard enough either, trust me, if I can find people, there's no reason that anyone else can't find at least ONE person in their town. There are almost no gamers in my town either, doesn't mean I couldn't find a few.
Funny thing is, my college was 20km to the north of my town and I met a bunch of gamers there. I guess every gamers moved out there or something.
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Man are you kidding because when I was in middle school like half the people I knew had tried rpg maker (I may have been partially responsible for this) but I mean a lot of people myself included lost interest but
I mean honestly I've never met anyone like you and there's probably a reason for this! I wouldn't consider myself a SOCIAL BUTTERFLY or anything but 2 friends?
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It's amazing what a difference a short distance can make.
I think the biggest problem is that people think that their school is their whole town. They can't find people at school with their interests so they just go "WELP I GUESS THAT'S THAT." I don't understand this.
Anyway, I can understand her having only two or three CLOSE friends but to only ever talk to those people and not know other people is insane. I'm one of those people that only has one or two REALLY good friends, but fuck, I talk to just about EVERYONE. I talk to everyone around me in my classes, and if I'm eating lunch or something there are tons of people I sit with and hang out with, but I'm just not extremely good friends with them. You don't have to socially MARRY someone to have social interactions, so yeah, just go out and try it.
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Now I expect the average response to be "Well if you like doing it, and you can afford to do it, why not do it?" Another individual I've met, a nursing student now off on her final year placement, mentioned once that "an addiction is medically classified a hobby that you begin to do instead of essentials, like sleep/eat/work/etc. So if you're doing everything you need for survival, and then spending every other waking moment on one activity, you're not an addict."
I like this parallel here. no one said anything about addiction. if you were addicted you probably wouldn't be posting. there's a difference between addiction and just having an unhealthy habit and guess what both are bad for you.
Me: I've seen your list of things you call "life"
you talk like the world's worst alien.
HUMAN...WHAT IS THIS OBJECT YOU CALL 'LOVE'?
Him: Well what do you consider "life" then, I mean you don't seem to care about self-improvement and your only form of self-gratification is gained by retreating into games. You're a shut-in.
Me: The words we use code underlying meanings, like the fact that you believe I "retreat into games" rather than the more positively worded "Exploring games" or just "playing games".
there's no code. if you play videogames rather than do something else you are retreating into a safe area. way to act like a condescending dick to your friend though?
Me: What if i'm not hiding, I just have no interest in anything that goes on out there?
you're probably fucked up. I mean, if you really have zero interest in reality, you are really really bad off!
(from drama to sports to dorm-room style get-together activity house point bullshit to outdoorsey hobbies like fishing or rock climbing or hiking or whatever,)
the veritable gamut of social activity...
Me: But what's the point of having them in moderation if I've already explored other options and found them to be unenjoyable?
SO YOU DONT END UP WITH AN ASS THAT LOOKS LIKE COTTAGE CHEESE BECAUSE YOU'RE THIZZING OUT OVER WHEN THE WOW SERVERS WILL GET BACK ONLINE WHILE THE REST OF US GO FOR A FUCKING WALK.
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Is it so bad to avoid social interaction and isolate yourself from others?
Homer Lusk Collyer (November 6, 1881 – March 21, 1947) and Langley Collyer (October 3, 1885 – March 1947) were two American brothers who became famous because of their snobbish nature, filth in their homes, and compulsive hoarding.
The brothers are often cited as an example of compulsive hoarding associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), as well as disposophobia or 'Collyer brothers syndrome', a fear of throwing anything away. For decades, neighborhood rumors swirled around the rarely-seen, unemployed men and their home at 2078 Fifth Avenue (at the corner of 128th Street), in Manhattan, where they obsessively collected newspapers, books, furniture, musical instruments, and many other items, with booby traps set up in corridors and doorways to protect against intruders.
Both were eventually found dead in the Harlem brownstone where they had lived as hermits, surrounded by over 100 tons of rubbish that they had amassed over several decades.
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I blame The World Ends With You
NOBODY MATTERS BUT ME
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persons really fucking own. like PEOPLE ON A WHOLE can probably disappoint but individual persons are just the best. when someone says something that makes me think I am like FUCK
THIS OWNS
GLAD I'M NOT WATCHING ANIME INSTEAD.
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I used to turn on RM2k3 on the computers in my computer servicing class and people would just flock to me. I brought a smile to faces who thought that there was no hope for their dreams.
oh god magical negro that seriously sounds like the direction my brother is heading right now. :( he has a mass amount of junk that he refuses to throw away. I offer to help him but he doesn't want to. Just the other day he somehow got a sorta broken drumset and a bunch of other music stuff but I am worried because I knew there was something wrong with his hoarding. he doesn't booby trap anything but he puts a sign up telling people not to touch his stuff and his room practically is a trap at this moment.
i try to socialize with him as much as I can, but I don't think that's enough. i just can't wait for him to get out of homeschool.
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persons really fucking own. like PEOPLE ON A WHOLE can probably disappoint but individual persons are just the best. when someone says something that makes me think I am like FUCK
THIS OWNS
GLAD I'M NOT WATCHING ANIME INSTEAD.
Anime Makes Me Think More Than You Hiveminds Ever Will :fogethuh:
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dissonance are u morbidly obese
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I know you damn anarchists hate reading but read the opening post! She says that she's not overweight.
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yo what the fuck's this:
Group: ex-staff`s
Location: nigger dicks
get the fuck out of here.
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also contrary to what your favorite anime character believes in human beings are inherently social animals that require a basic level of social interaction to function properly. If you isolate yourself and live a hermit lifestyle then you will be doing it at the cost of your mental health.
Tell that to Rurouni Kenshin
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i like rurouni kenshin. .........jap revolution
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i feel as though i am better than society. what can it teach me? here's some ironic racism. it's okay because im a fat lesbo.
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how do know
she isnt black, u indian
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Where was that posted? I didn't even see that.
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its in her rmxp topic in her sig, where she also uses the word FAGGOT way more than I feel comfortable with.
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eveyrbody and their moms uses that word in the internet
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konix i notice you really hate animechilds. why. like i just make fun of them but you just are contemptous as if goku killed your mom
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She must have just changed that thanks to you, because it doesn't say that now.
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excellent ironic racism now edited to ironic homophobia.
its okay guys! she's a fake bisexual!
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hahahah you people gave me 4050 dollars to keep doing this. reap what ya fuckin sow.
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cool, it looks like you are getting through to her steel. perhaps there is hope for her. just keep on calling her out on things and she might keep on changing them because she did change the "nagger dick" thing.
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post your pic or we dont believe you're a hermit.
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eveyrbody and their moms uses that word in the internet
haha my older brother once was reading over my shoulder, I guess waiting to get on the home computer, and saw your sig and exploded at me! I kept trying to explain how it wasn't serious but man I dunno I pretty much wont type it into a post because he was so incredibly offended about someone else doing it. GW we can do better...
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dude i got shit from a girl i was dating for marmot's sig. WHY WOULD YOU POST ON A FORUM WITH THIS???
i lied and said he was a flamboyantly gay mexican. it was pride.
seriously though your fucking sig marmot.
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When I was working at the fair this summer, there was this guy working with me who would make rape jokes all the time and I knew for a fact that it made quite a few people uncomfortable. I asked him why he thought making rape jokes was okay and he said it was because he was a gamer. I guess it's the same thing as saying nigger to people like him.
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Man I love some of the hostility here. I'm not even joking or being sarcastic, I've noticed that whenever I initially precieve something as overly hostile it's generally people presenting ideas/opinions/truths that I don't like to face up to so seeing this much of it is a good thing I think!
Pretty much this. I was the same way when I was, like, fourteen, but you learn to get over it and (usually) appreciate the merits of interacting with and becoming closer to other people. If you're really that fixated on GAMING/ANIME/MOVIES (or whatever) just wait until you get to college maybe? I think a lot of people tend to discard the silly stigma they have for talking about "socially unacceptable," things when they get out of high school and are allowed to be themselves.
Lemme address all the age comments right her - I'm not a snot nosed 13 year old who is just discovering nihilism and turning emo or some bullshit like that - most of us have those stages, I did too, but I grew out of it at like 16. I'm 22 now, in university, and it's not so much of "the universe is awful..... sigh *cuts self*" but rather "hey I've finally discovered what my tastes are so why not stop looking because every attempt at trying something new has never quite lived up to the hype."
i mean you give off the vibe of ..........heh ppl.....who needs em...........while thinkin you are the tough shit and "different". let me tell ya somethin, there are another billion faggots out there who spend their evenings watching anime and playing videogames. theres nothing particularly unique about you. why not meet other people like that?
It really doesn't matter if I'm precieved as tough shit or not, nor do I care if it's unique. If I like something, I like it - It doesn't really matter how many other people enjoy it.
Besides generally meeting up with people who are into those things (video games etc, admittedly less anime now than a few years ago and more gaming but the interest's still there) is never fruitful because they're all invariably people I can't stand. Like i tried out the gaming/anime clubs at the university and I quickly found that I really didn't want to be around them. That may come with the territory though, hell, I could be just as abrasive. I know I wouldn't want to be friends with me. The good thing is, I don't have to.
there's no code. if you play videogames rather than do something else you are retreating into a safe area. way to act like a condescending dick to your friend though?
What? How does this make sense? "If you play videogames rather than doing something else you're retreating into a safe area." That's like saying a guy who likes golf is retreating away from life when he plays golf or something.
You can have an interest, and enjoy it, and it's not called "retreating to a safe area" or "missing out on life". It's called "having fun".
either you have severe mental health issues or you're a stupid kid whose worldview has been shaped by the animes you've watched and you're just going through a "heh.....people are worthless" phase that a lot of 13 year olds also go through.
I dont even know why people are bothering with you. you're probably the kind of person who collects swords, wears dragonball z dress shirts, and make youtubes arguing about why 4Kids Entertainment is a shitty organization because they censor your favorite anime. I think you're doing the world a favor by isolating yourself from everyone else.
Over the past few years my interest has shifted away from anime and toward gaming (though admittedly there's still a few anime I'd like to watch.) As for the kind of person I am, I'm a rabid nintendo fan that truly believes video gaming hit its pinnacle during the SNES years and doesn't mind wearing a T-shirt with a 1-UP on it, and don't really care for the massive retarded discussions of anime censorship or whatever as my interest in anime is only waning as time goes on.
post your pic or we dont believe you're a hermit.
I don't think I've ever said I'm a hermit! I'm just somebody who doesn't see a problem with socializing less than the 'accepted norm'.
As for the personal comments, I'm not morbidly obese but I'd like to lose 10 pounds, and I edited my location as part of a joke on .org's irc, but don't worry, I changed it back for all of you <3 In any case, that's on .org, not here. Rampant and out-of-context use of 'faggot' and 'nigger' is common and allowed over there, so there's no problems with it. In any case, I'm not posting it here. :P
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"If you play videogames rather than doing something else you're retreating into a safe area." That's like saying a guy who likes golf is retreating away from life when he plays golf or something.
if he plays golf rather than doing anything else yeah he is RETREATING INTO GOLF. you didn't keep my phrase when making your analogy.
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"hey I've finally discovered what my tastes are so why not stop looking because every attempt at trying something new has never quite lived up to the hype."
hey guess what at 22 you aren't a fully developed person yet!
fuck you are never one, you are never DONE growing up or finding out who you are, stop thinking you've figured everything out
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Rampant and out-of-context use of 'faggot' and 'nigger' is common and allowed over there, so there's no problems with it.
you know what they were common and allowed decades ago too, that doesn't mean that's good or okay or by any means acceptable
it shouldn't matter whether or not it's allowed because you should be a decent enough human being to realize what's wrong with it and not do it on your own
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there is this mmo hentai site where someone kept posting shit about muslims and only one guy said anything about it, then everyone was laughing at him saying that the racist guy couldn't be a bigot because he's a man and he loves yaoi and shota. it's a really nice website
also I tell people the same thing about marmot if they ask.
Rampant and out-of-context use of 'faggot' and 'nigger' is common and allowed over there, so there's no problems with it. In any case, I'm not posting it here. :P
oh so it's ok then
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heh guys, you know what i hate? niggers. that's okay to say right? free speech and all that. the first amendment makes it an okay thing to say. i don't know why you're getting so upset, mom, it's my right to say that.
what do you mean i'm not allowed at thanksgiving anymore???
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what sig marmot doesn't have a sig
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if he plays golf rather than doing anything else yeah he is RETREATING INTO GOLF. you didn't keep my phrase when making your analogy.
My point is, by saying RETREATING INTO X (where X = any activity) you were implying with your wording that they were subsequently retreating AWAY from 'life', and that it's a bad thing to do so.
If that's not what you meant, then whoops, what did you mean. :hmm:
hey guess what at 22 you aren't a fully developed person yet!
fuck you are never one, you are never DONE growing up or finding out who you are, stop thinking you've figured everything out
I agree completely. I'll probably lose interest over time in what I'm doing and find something else to do. But, at the moment, I like what I do and I don't see a need to rush into anything else. If my interests really are going to change as I get older, I'll either just simply grow out of gaming as a form of entertainment and/or something else will catch my eye in a way it hasn't yet.
In any case I'm in no rush.
oh so it's ok then
Considering that I haven't posted anything like that here, and am not actually racist whatsoever, then yes.
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oh guys, now i understand, it's okay to talk about uneducated lazy fleetfooted niggers as long as you aren't ACTUALLY racist
in that case, i hope all the niggers die in hell (i'm not racist tho!)
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marmot's sig always used to get me in shit too, especially when i was in my parents house and my mom would come in to do something to the aquarium. I wouldn't alt+tab because no one can see size 12 text from there but then i'd scroll down and marmot's sig would just blare out FAGGOTMEXICAN and she was like "Uh, what are these sites you're going to?"
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How can you say that you aren't racist but make nigger jokes? it doesn't fucking matter where you make them. please seriously answer this.
i mean, if I made nigger jokes with my dad, but I didn't make them around my friends, wouldn't that just make me a closet racist?
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How can you say that you aren't racist but make nigger jokes? it doesn't fucking matter where you make them. please seriously answer this.
i mean, if I made nigger jokes with my dad, but I didn't make them around my friends, wouldn't that just make me a closet racist?
I've gone over it with several people over there and this is the best answer we've come up with as a collective group:
Listen to the word 'nigger'. Forget the connotations, the meanings, just say it out loud and listen to the found your mouth makes. Based on the sound alone, the word seems a little funny, a little rediculous, and it rolls off the tongue very well. 'nigger' (and 'faggot' too actually) has completely lost its meaning connecting it to anything derogatory over there and is more often used not as just a descriptor for any person.
ex: if you call somebody a nintendofag, they're a 'nintendo person' aka nintendo fanboy. Or whatever.
The most creative use we've seen of it was 'backnigger' - referring to any background character or redshirt that simply stands behind the main action in a scene and does nothing.
This trend definately started with just "lol racism" jokes and was in effect long before I even went to .org, but over time the racism has just been stripped of the term in that particular community's lexicon.
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it's not like there's any social stigma behind the word nigger anymore or anything
you can't even say "well at this website...." because people IN society are the ones visiting it, don't you think at least one of them just miiiiight be a little upset by that?
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you can't even say "well at this website...." because people IN society are the ones visiting it, don't you think at least one of them just miiiiight be a little upset by that?
Wait, what? Why are they upsetting themselves by visiting the website they think is racist?
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You are an ignorant person as much as RMXP is apparently a community of ignorant people. Does no one complain about it? :( I am not saying this to be mean to you. I feel bad for you.
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ahahahahaha holy shit you are awful
doesnt the word just bring funny things to mind...like apes and monkeys...
also we should really have kept that ridiculous filter. I bet no one ever misspelled it after running afoul of that thing once.
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Wait, what? Why are they upsetting themselves by visiting the website they think is racist?
"man i really want to make an rpg maker game let me just WHAT IS THIS??????"
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Fuck context and meaning.
nigger, kike, spic, jap, chink, wog, munt
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they sound so hysterical :fogetlaugh: :fogetlaugh:
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cunt. heh did you hear how it rolls off the tongue? I really love that word. Meaning? What is Meaning? Nothing Means Nothing To Me. I'm an Anarchist
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Lemme address all the age comments right her - I'm not a snot nosed 13 year old who is just discovering nihilism and turning emo or some bullshit like that - most of us have those stages, I did too, but I grew out of it at like 16. I'm 22 now, in university, and it's not so much of "the universe is awful..... sigh *cuts self*" but rather "hey I've finally discovered what my tastes are so why not stop looking because every attempt at trying something new has never quite lived up to the hype."
It really doesn't matter if I'm precieved as tough shit or not, nor do I care if it's unique. If I like something, I like it - It doesn't really matter how many other people enjoy it.
I really don't know what else to say, then. You're obviously an adult who's already comfortably settled into your mentality and routine, so what exactly are you asking us?
Send a job resume to Nintendo or something? =[
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hey its unbeugsam's girlfriend. welcome back
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Fuck context and meaning.
nigger, kike, spic, jap, chink, wog, munt
You just expanded my racist vocabulary by 70%.
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I've gone over it with several people over there and this is the best answer we've come up with as a collective group:
Listen to the word 'nigger'. Forget the connotations, the meanings, just say it out loud and listen to the found your mouth makes. Based on the sound alone, the word seems a little funny, a little THERE IS NO E IN RIDICULOUS, and it rolls off the tongue very well. 'nigger' (and 'faggot' too actually) has completely lost its meaning connecting it to anything derogatory over there and is more often used not as just a descriptor for any person.
ex: if you call somebody a nintendofag, they're a 'nintendo person' aka nintendo fanboy. Or whatever.
The most creative use we've seen of it was 'backnigger' - referring to any background character or redshirt that simply stands behind the main action in a scene and does nothing.
This trend definately started with just "lol racism" jokes and was in effect long before I even went to .org, but over time the racism has just been stripped of the term in that particular community's lexicon.
what the purple fuck is the matter with you
can we start a helldump
edit: Also I bet the exchange with your friend went more like
"you're retreating into games. you're a shut in."
"LEAVE ME ALONE" *seeks validation from internet, makes up conversations*
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Black people say nigger all the time...
Why can't I? Because I'm white? That's fucking racism right there
"doublethink...0 it is the most dangerous thing ever"~ john orwell
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"Yes, dear, scent too. And do you know what I'm going to do next? I'm going to get ahold of a real woman's frock from somewhere and get out of these bloody trousers. I'll wear silk stockings and high heeled shoes! In this room I'm going to be a woman, not a Party comrade." - bill murray
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Heh this thing you call life: nothing but a fragmented existance to be photographed and documented on facebook.
You socialites will have to forgive me for opting out of this kind of life as I have more meaningful things to attend to.
*turns on an anime and reads a wikipedia article on photosynthesis*
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There's not enough 1ups in real life. I choose games
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but in real life there are 7ups...
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I was gonna GIVE THOUGHTS because I think a lot of people in here are being dicks and in general are unable to approach things from any perspective but their own and maybe lock it afterwards since the replies are 100% garbage buuuut I gotta go to class. If this is STILL OPEN when I get back we will have a "partytime".
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How can you not see the adverse effects isolation has had on you...
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but in real life there are 7ups...
mushrooms > carbonated beverages
How can you not see the adverse effects isolation has had on you...
If you're referring to the whole 'nigger' thing that actually came about from being a Literary Theory student, one of the major theories presented in one of the courses (and one that i really dig) was that words have no intrinsic meanings or value other than what collectives of people give them (for example the word 'tree' has no natural connection with the actual object that it refers to, their link is arbitrary) and that these values change across time, culture, language, and even hold variation within a language, spawning sub-languages. This is different from dialects or accents, where words are simply pronounced differently, but actual differing meanings for the same word. For a modern day example, do any canadians or americans know what 'naff' means? It's an english word, but to us it's nonsense. To brits, it's an actual term. Even within a common language, sub-lexicons are created due to various factors - in this example, geographic.
It's feasible to assume that internet communities also eventually create their own sub-lexicons. It's even happened here. The only reason you're expressing outrage is because another collective has relabeled a word you deem offensive, as something unoffensive. You can't understand how they can use it so nonchalantly and they don't see what the problem is. Simply stating "but the majority of the people who use the language have decreed that 'Word X means Concept Y'" is not reason enough for people to change that linkage in their own particular community.
There's thousands of examples of this, most including terms that are more benign than the one we're talking about but I think you get the idea.
I really don't know what else to say, then. You're obviously an adult who's already comfortably settled into your mentality and routine, so what exactly are you asking us?
I thought a broader discussion on isolation/socialization would just be a good topic to throw around, really. :o
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If you're referring to the whole 'nigger' thing that actually came about from being a Literary Theory student, one of the major theories presented in one of the courses (and one that i really dig) was that words have no intrinsic meanings or value other than what collectives of people give them (for example the word 'tree' has no natural connection with the actual object that it refers to, their link is arbitrary) and that these values change across time, culture, language, and even hold variation within a language, spawning sub-languages.
this is why it's a literary THEORY class, words have meanings at any given time, and as of right now nigger has a meaning and it's "that fucking black that i hate and wish death upon"
so unless that's what you mean, don't say it until it doesn't mean that anymore
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'Word X means Concept Y'"
this is another example of what i said to you about the fact that you seem to have to use math in order to perform human communication, which seems to be common among people who aren't capable of it
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What you posted is obvious, no one is contesting things like that happen. But being a part of the sub-culture doesn't mean you are disassociated from the larger culture where it is inappropriate to say that. The redefinition is done with a full understanding of the offensive nature of the word.
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this is why it's a literary THEORY class, words have meanings at any given time, and as of right now nigger has a meaning and it's "that fucking black that i hate and wish death upon"
Right now it has that meaning in the larger culture - and within the larger culture there are people that ban the word based on that meaning and people that actually excessively used the word SPECIFICALLY because they agree with its meaning.
This doesn't exclude the possibility that a sub-culture can exist where the word has a different meaning and treated differently, nor does its existance give the larger culture liscense to impose its lexicon on the smaller.
But being a part of the sub-culture doesn't mean you are disassociated from the larger culture where it is inappropriate to say that. The redefinition is done with a full understanding of the offensive nature of the word.
I completely agree, which is why I don't generally use the word anywhere else in the same way as I do in places where it's acceptable. It's obvious that people here don't see it the same way, for example, so I wouldn't do it here. Every time you see anybody using an offensive word in a place where you know it holds different meanings and may actually be acceptable, wouldn't it be better to think "well that individual's not actually racist, that's just how the word is used over there and even if it makes me uncomfortable he/she knows how i feel about it and wouldn't do it around me" rather than "rargh must impose my meanings on them so i am not offended any longer"?
Like I said, I'm obviously not going to do it here (where people do take offense) and in places where people DON'T take offense it's used in an unoffensive way, so I don't see the problem.
This is like banning all pornography from your household but then screaming at your neighbour to shut his TV off because you can see him watching porn in his house from your bedroom rather than just simply closing your blinds.
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Stop trying to reason it.
its not because the word is offensive I use offensive words all the fucking time it is because it has RACIST connotations you cannot sit there and reason out why it is ok to use a racist fucking word with a group of dipshit anime loving douche bags, fucking christ.
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Every time you see anybody using an offensive word in a place where you know it holds different meanings and may actually be acceptable, wouldn't it be better to think "well that individual's not actually racist, that's just how the word is used over there and even if it makes me uncomfortable he/she knows how i feel about it and wouldn't do it around me" rather than "rargh must impose my meanings on them so i am not offended any longer"?
No, I think "that person is more interested in flashing some sense of personal freedom than showing respect for others."
Gotta... distinguish myself somehow... I'm that white guy saying Nigger instead of slob :fogetbackflip:
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:shrugs: depends on the context man. if i am talkin about the meaning of words with someoene else, i might say nigger. in an ironic joke not really unless i am talkin with some black guy and he is cool with it provided i make fun of my........brown blood from time to time
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http://www.rmxp.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=59313&p=579065&hilit=Nigger#p579065
is this appropriate context?
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i don't believe for a second you intended this topic to be a genuine discussion about social interaction at all. this topic was only about you and this is why it has ended up this way. part of the reason you are seeing this hostility is because you are trying to say you are isolated somehow (but really aren't), and you semi-acknowledge some of your flaws, but none of the ones that really matter. what did you really hope to gain with this? some kind of perspective that people in your life already told you?
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http://www.rmxp.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=59313&p=579065&hilit=Nigger#p579065
is this appropriate context?
oh man, the forum transfer broke that!!
It was supposed to look like an american flag with the colours layed out properly and it was used as irony in response to both his stupid initial post and his comments on irc that were both racist and extremely nationalistic.
its not because the word is offensive I use offensive words all the fucking time it is because it has RACIST connotations you cannot sit there and reason out why it is ok to use a racist fucking word with a group of dipshit anime loving douche bags, fucking christ.
Where'd the anime loving douchebags come from :o
i don't believe for a second you intended this topic to be a genuine discussion about social interaction at all.
I did. We can completely return to that if you'd like.
You'll find i generally frame broader topics via talking about my own experiences concerning them, but that's supposed to lead to other people doing the same rather than simply talking about ME. I would be completely fine if the dissotalk ended right here and we actually talked about broader social interaction and isolation! :o
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I think the biggest problem is that people think that their school is their whole town. They can't find people at school with their interests so they just go "WELP I GUESS THAT'S THAT." I don't understand this.
It kinda is when there's one school in your town.
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If you're referring to the whole 'nigger' thing that actually came about from being a Literary Theory student
Well I guess that makes it ok to use a term without considering the cultural implications of it. Afterall you don't really 'dig' the whole socializing thing so its fun to unironically use insensitive racial slurs in mostly white internet communities!
Words like nigger have no meaning unless we give them one! Thus, its black people who are to blame for getting offended by my use of the word nigger, not mine because I refuse to recognize the term's significance outside of my little isolated world.
Anyway, I'm hungry so I'm gonna go snack on a plate of nigger toes.
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Where'd the anime loving douchebags come from :o
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=58370&start=0
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=26565
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=55804
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/search.php?keywords=anime&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
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That's brazilnuts for all u guys wanting to call me racist
In fact anyone thinking imm being racist is the real racist here, I'm just talking about a healthy treat
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I am honestly embarrassed for you. Really, I am. I think the whole "Okay, so what's the point of this post again?" angle has been brought up enough, so I'll end it at that. I couldn't even read passed the third line before my palm reached my face.
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[18:07] <@krinsdeath> i think nigger is fine as long as you're not using it as a word to oppress blacks
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excellent insight..excellent insight
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http://www.rmxp.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=58370&start=0
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=26565
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=55804
http://www.rmxp.org/forums/search.php?keywords=anime&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
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I don't associate with any of them for obvious reasons!!! :o
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i don't believe for a second you intended this topic to be a genuine discussion about social interaction at all. this topic was only about you and this is why it has ended up this way. part of the reason you are seeing this hostility is because you are trying to say you are isolated somehow (but really aren't), and you semi-acknowledge some of your flaws, but none of the ones that really matter. what did you really hope to gain with this? some kind of perspective that people in your life already told you?
you did not answer GZ's question, not to mention i can't even tell did you even read his post completely.
stop dodging!!
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i don't believe for a second you intended this topic to be a genuine discussion about social interaction at all. this topic was only about you and this is why it has ended up this way. part of the reason you are seeing this hostility is because you are trying to say you are isolated somehow (but really aren't), and you semi-acknowledge some of your flaws, but none of the ones that really matter. what did you really hope to gain with this? some kind of perspective that people in your life already told you?
gz is it true you are kind of a loner???
lets make this a topic about someone who owns instead.
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alright. i'm postin.
for the most part this topic annoys me. for the record i do not think the way you are going about this is the best way to do things. i think you are missing out on tons of different experiences that READING ABOUT ON WIKIPEDIA does not really emulate very well. there are tons of things that you are simply not doing and saying that you have no interest in it because you've been on a few hikes and gone to a few parties and MEH, no big deal, is somewhat short-sighted.
buuuut honestly, i don't care at all. i have no real problem with someone being a shut in. don't want to go out? fine. don't want to be around people? also fine! i don't want to either, most of the time. unlike other people in here i am not under the impression that this is something ALL PEOPLE NEED TO WANT TO DO OR ELSE. live your life however the fuck you want to. if you are asking whether or not it is okay to do this then yes, of course it is. you are hurting no one but potentially yourself by living this way. i do not agree with it and i would say you are making a mistake but cutting yourself off, but if you are happy and content with your life, then that is all that should matter.
here's what irritates me. gw is very predictable in how it will respond to things like this. i could have told you how this topic would go without you even posting it. what i like is that you cited interests as: books, movies, the internet as a tool for information and communication, television, video games, anime. here is what people paid attention to: anime, video games. no mention of any of the other stuff was made. you get dumb comments like this:
you're probably the kind of person who collects swords, wears dragonball z dress shirts, and make youtubes arguing about why 4Kids Entertainment is a shitty organization because they censor your favorite anime. I think you're doing the world a favor by isolating yourself from everyone else.
that are, as far as i can tell, entirely baseless. out of ALL OF YOUR POST, i think konix just saw a mention of anime and went nuts. konix do you remember when i asked you if anime had harmed you in some way? this is what i meant. none of what you said is applicable and tbh it does not even really make sense to me. it is just a lot of ASSUMPTIONS and insults and not really anything worthwhile or substantiated.
then you have smug comments like this:
I don't know for sure but I got the impression she's in college. College is all ABOUT growing up and learning to function in society, so maybe you should get on the ball with that a little.
i've got an idea for you, velfarre. go fuck yourself. the problem with the way you are approaching things is that it is almost insultingly narrow-minded and honestly i do not think you have put any thought into anything you have said in this topic (on gw period??) at all. everything you have posted smacks of heh cowboy up kid it's time to love the bomb. you sound like some parent telling their children they should get a real job and become a functioning member of society. college is about a lot of different things and if you want it to be about "growing up" and learning to function in an immensely flawed society filled with idiots then that is fine buuuuuuut you have absolutely no right to criticize someone for deciding they would rather just not be involved in any of it. this is a legitimate decision that someone can make for themselves; i spend about half the time wishing i lived in a cabin in the woods, for example. velfarre please explain to me how this means i am immature and that i secretly want to be around people but just don't know it. teach me what it is to live, velfarre. there are potentially criticisms you could level against her, but HEH.... SHUT INS. LEARN HOW TO BE NORMAL!!! isn't one of them and, in fact, it is quite possibly the dumbest motherfucking thing i've ever seen you say. are you kidding me? where did you even get this garbage.
what really grates on me about your posts is that everything you say is predicated on the assumption that she functions in the same way you function. there are BIOLOGICAL factors at play to be sure but to say that every single person wants to be around people, even if they deny it, is dumb as hell. this is what i meant earlier, when i said that some of you were clearly incapable of looking at something from any perspective but your own. maybe you should not act like you have GOT PEOPLE FIGURED OUT and heh. . . just know them because it is presumptuous and incorrect and you are just a stupid fucking kid like pretty much everyone else here.
also contrary to what your favorite anime character believes in human beings are inherently social animals that require a basic level of social interaction to function properly. If you isolate yourself and live a hermit lifestyle then you will be doing it at the cost of your mental health.
again with the anime jab. idk why you keep doing this man but it's not even appropriate this time. all anyone needs to do is MENTION anime and you think less of them as a person. you shouldn't be so judgmental about such stupid shit. you make a good point, though, which is that isolating yourself leads to going kind of crazy. all things considered, though, i think this is acceptable if you really just want to be AWAY from things.
Listen to the word 'nigger'. Forget the connotations, the meanings, just say it out loud and listen to the found your mouth makes. Based on the sound alone, the word seems a little funny, a little THERE IS NO E IN RIDICULOUS, and it rolls off the tongue very well. 'nigger' (and 'faggot' too actually) has completely lost its meaning connecting it to anything derogatory over there and is more often used not as just a descriptor for any person.
this is where you lost me, though!! i could not physically give less of a shit about how you live your life buuuut this is dumb as hell. language evolves continuously but appropriation and use of terms that are still VERY RELEVANT and VERY OFFENSIVE in pretty much any segment of mainstream society is pretty much the definition of racial insensitivity. outrage is a strong word, because i do not really care if you're an ignorant piece of shit, but do us a favor and don't try to intellectualize what is in any context, relatively inappropriate. the BOTTOM LINE is that you have taken one of the worst words still in use in the english language and, without regard for any of the conditions and connotations attached, arbitrarily relabeled it in a community that is still full of people from mainstream society. welp we all know what this word means and how people feel about it but it's okay! when we shut ourselves in our rooms, it suddenly means something different. it's not insensitive to base an insult off a slur to begin with at all, and it's definitely not dumb to use the term subculture to refer to a tiny Internet gaming forum that is 100% a part of mainstream culture and not a legitimate subculture in any way, making use of words like nigger not magically acceptable by virtue of cultural differences in perception. ahahaha seriously guy are you trying to argue that gross racial insensitivity is acceptable because RMXP.ORG is its own self-contained subculture and has its own sets of mores//norms??? because right off the bat it kinda sounds like you read the sociology article on wikipedia and thought HMMM.....
but yeah live your life however the fuck you want to. if you don't want to be around people, don't. i find EXPERIENCING THE WORLD OUTSIDE MY HOME interesting and appealing but if you do not and if this does not FULFILL you as much as being a shut in, then you are not wrong for not doing it. i do not feel like it is a good idea for anyone to try to enforce a lifestyle on someone if it is genuinely not what they want.
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i've got an idea for you, velfarre. go fuck yourself.
admin behavior...
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mods pls delete ths post
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i spend about half the time wishing i lived in a cabin in the woods, for example. velfarre please explain to me how this means i am immature and that i secretly want to be around people but just don't know it. tell me what it is to live, velfarre. there are potentially criticisms you could level against her, but HEH.... SHUT INS. LEARN HOW TO BE NORMAL!!! isn't one of them and, in fact, it is quite possibly the dumbest motherfucking thing i've ever seen you say. are you kidding me? where did you even get this garbage.
living in a cabin in the woods and assuming that at age 22 you have already decided everything you like and dislike are not the same thing at all, i don't give a shit if you go out and get married and have 2.6 children but sorry that i don't think WELP, GUESS I'VE HAD ALL MY LIFE EXPERIENCES is an okay response ever
this topic seems to show that dissonance is not okay with her life right now or else she wouldn't have made it the way she did, all i did was say WELL HERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO CHANGE IT
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well uh it aint like ten different people were all telling her YOU FUCKIN IDIOT and she might make a mistake while backpedaling and imply something she didn't mean to or anything it is not like you are insanely prone to this or anything velfarre.
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sorry i cannot handle people like this it is a problem of minee lik
dissonance says that i'm who she wants to be though so i guess that's cool
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your who we all want to be(at).
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i've got an idea for you, velfarre. go fuck yourself.
icefreakin burn!!!
i'm fine with people wanting to be a shut in or whatever. i'm kind of becoming one myself! other than going out to play music i pretty much sit at home and play guitar. what i find pretty lol though is saying I WANT TO STAY AT HOME BECAUSE VIDEOGAMES ARE BETTER THAN SOCIETY
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plus the whole "i've already decided everything i like" thing is heavily implied in the first post, i don't see how people's responses affect that
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um i think she said "i'm happy with what i've got so i see no point in trying other stuff when most of it seems uninteresting to me". HOW. FUCKING. OFFENSIVE. she actually did not say she knew everything she liked/disliked, just that she DISLIKES most things and likes the shit she likes and was content to continue liking it. it should not be unacceptable to you for someone not to want to ACCRUE LIFE EXPERIENCES if they are happy with their lives.
your whole post was essentially FUCK YOU FOR NOT LIVING LIKE ME. the only response to this is fuck YOU for wanting anyone else to live like you. i could call it sad and depressing that you post the most boring shit about your life and have absurd interests in things like DORAEMON but you know what, i don't. because that is how you want to live and if it makes you happy to do that instead of something that i would find more worthwhile (re: worthwhile at all) then that is okay. you are being very intolerant and immature about this. can you honestly say you're EXPERIENCING life much more than her right now? really? you are telling her NO....THIS ISNT A LIFE but tbh i am in doubt that yours is really much of a life either. unless you are POSTING FROM MACHU PICCHU and somehow not the random boring college student #432328 i think you are.
most of our lives are not full of enough RICH EXPERIENCES that we can really tell her she is missing out by working, going to school, and then going home and sitting in front of the computer. in fact, i think this is what a lot of us probably do as well. she is hardly the only one in this topic who is MISSING OUT//DOING IT WRONG, if you think she is to begin with (i do, but this applies to me as well so i am hardly in a place to criticize her).
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i could call it sad and depressing that you post the most boring shit about your life and have absurd interests in things like DORAEMON but you know what, i don't.
i don't know how i'm being intolerant and immature when you bring up shit like this as if it's my whole life, if you're so pro-everyone living their own life, how are you saying I'M wrong with what i do?
especially when you just said "I could I AM DOING IT RIGHT NOW, but I won't (already did, it's there)"
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his point is you're telling other people to live like you. that is what is wrong.
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well i didn't mean to even do that so fuck it
fine guys, i'm sorry, live your lives how you want, just don't ever come yelling at me for living my life the way i do because it's the same damn thing
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yeah i agree. note the lack of me ever bringing up your life or anyone's life, really, until the exact moment you started telling her YOUR LIFE....IT AINT NO LIFE AT ALL *posts how she's feeling in whats on your mind topic four thousand times*.
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as stupid as i think anime is, and it really doesn't matter what I think about anime, there are people who like anime who are not racists. there are people who I like who go to anime cons and are not horrible people. hell if magical negro liked lou bega that wouldn't mean that i thought he was an idiot. some people just have really bad tastes and I am not going to hold that against them as a person. i was going to bring that up earlier but I was worried that this topic was already fucked up enough. i think the matter that she feels saying nigger is okay in some weird internet subculture is more worth getting upset over what cartoon she watches!
i also did not mean to act like a shithead in my earlier posts if I was. I was just sharing my experience of being a forced shut-in during homeschool as being pretty miserable because she was asking how we felt about it.
things did go wrong in this topic. cant we all just... get... along...... :(
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yeah i agree. note the lack of me ever bringing up your life or anyone's life, really, until the exact moment you started telling her YOUR LIFE....IT AINT NO LIFE AT ALL *posts how she's feeling in whats on your mind topic four thousand times*.
fuck, how do you not see that bringing up my life AFTER calling me out on it doesn't make it BETTER
i apologized, do you HAVE to keep taking hits at me? how does this make you any better?
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http://scuttle.mirror.waffleimages.com/data/files/84/845eb339820288014151160fb0d2220214d193a9.gif
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i can't see that picture dude what is it.
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A few true friends are alot better then many fake ones in my opinion. But then again you can win me over with damn good food, so i'm not one to talk.
Those assholes who know they're being assholes and then turn around and say they're joking, I hate being near any of them.
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are you actually unhappy with your life, though. because your op made it seem like you were A OKAY with how you're living and if that's not the case you should probably change some things.
also sorry i just wanted to HAMMER IT HOME. you have been a real dick lately, especially in this topic, and it's not so fun when you're the butt of the joke is it! also i'm not being critical at all, is the difference. i am making jokes but tbh, your life is fine if you think it's fine! i would not live that way but if you want to it is okay. the point is any one of us could be called on this shit and really you're probably one of the last people who should be acting smug about it. but yeah i think it's better because i am not actually advising you to change, just pointing out how another person could say the same about your or my or most of our lives.
hmmm yes someone who thinks ironic nigger and faggot jokes are acceptable and that living a life as a shut-in is normal and that social interaction is worthless. this is the kind of person who i think deserves to be taken seriously. excuse me while i take a shit on everyone else for poking fun at this terrible thread.
here's the problem with this: you already said ALL THAT SHIT before you knew anything at all about the faggot/nigger stuff. at that point, all you had to go by was that she was living as a shut in and did not feel compelled to interact that much. but now you are skewing things and come on don't do this when you know it's this obvious. she didn't say BEING A SHUT IN IS NORMAL, she asked if there was anything really wrong with it. she didn't say social interaction was worthless (she has a girlfriend and apparently two friends??), she said she didnt feel compelled to associate with people she didnt identify with and was okay with BEING ALONE (maybe this is due to internet company but w/e). neither of these are even remotely similar to what you are saying she said and, what's more, there's nothing wrong with either. guess what, sometimes i can be a shut in. guess what else? a lot of the time, i don't feel like talking to people, especially idiots i have nothing in common with. i am willing to bet you are the same way unless you are a social butterfly and spend most of your free time out and about. you are just putting words in her mouth so that it seems like the shit you were saying earlier was appropriate, but it wasn't.
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on another note god fucking dammit my "band" just broke up again. im startin to take this social recluse thing seriously. fuck the outside world!! why cant i get a good band!!! aglsdjalsdj i dont even have high standards i was willing to play in a rockabilly band
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ask yourself this: how many good bands are likely to come from lynchburg, virginia? time to move to the city.
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i dont have enough quarters to pay for an apartment pands...
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i can't see that picture dude what is it.
its pants saying IF I WAS A TREE I WOULD BE A FUCKING FAGGOT, it felt appropriate.
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i just DOn't understand hOw anyone can be happy with the same shit everyDay. LikE right now i pretty much just go to school/work/gw/sleep and i'm boreD as hell because there's nothing really goIng on. how Can anyone not be fucKing bored aS hell with this?
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yeah you say that but tbh, poor people live in nyc. i don't know how but they do! it'd probably suck but....you'd be tryin. you'd be tryin. actually idk go to austin or some shit. don't they have tons of bands/a huge music scene?? that is what attracted me to uta, partially.
i just DOn't understand hOw anyone can be happy with the same shit everyDay. LikE right now i pretty much just go to school/work/gw/sleep and i'm boreD as hell because there's nothing really goIng on. how Can anyone not be fucKing bored aS hell with this?
yes??? i am also bored as hell but i know plenty of people who do the same thing every day and are not. just like people don't get bored of playing the same games, watching the same movies, etc etc. idk how it happens but it definitely happens.
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i am making jokes but tbh, your life is fine if you think it's fine! i would not live that way but if you want to it is okay.
the difference is that you have no idea how i live! dissonance spelled out fairly well what her day to day life is like, whereas you just decided what my life is like based on a few small things that have no significance in my life. i don't give a shit about doraemon or lazytown or any of that in my normal day to day life, it's just been blown out of proportion on GW, whereas dissonance clearly comes out and says "I spend my time on this and this and my friends are concerned and I like these things but not these things".
fuck i even think dissonance said on irc that i had a good idea of how she was, just based on the first post
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as soon as i get however many credits im transferring to hopefully LA or <insert gigantic city.> i can't take it here anymore. its drivin me BonKerS
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Hi headphonics thanks for the long post it was mostly an interesting read!
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Yeah I can kind of see where you're rollin' with this one and I get it. However I just like to think (and this might seem like backpedalling or something depending on how you look at it) that I'm able to differentiate between 'nigger' the joke word and 'nigger' the legitimate racist insult - context is pretty important.
living in a cabin in the woods and assuming that at age 22 you have already decided everything you like and dislike are not the same thing at all, i don't give a shit if you go out and get married and have 2.6 children but sorry that i don't think WELP, GUESS I'VE HAD ALL MY LIFE EXPERIENCES is an okay response ever
I never once denied the possibility that somewhere out there is another activity or experience that I may significantly enjoy and I just haven't found it yet.
What I'm saying is, I've found enough stuff I like to do that I'm perfectly content with just enjoying what I've got. If there's something else out there that I'd like, I don't mind if it passes me by because I've already got a lot of shit I enjoy on the go already, and if I end up growing out of any of my current tastes and/or finding new ones on accident I don't mind adapting. I don't mind change or anything, I just don't see a need to do it right now.
Also just to clarify I do have a few other interests other than what I listed (swimming, biking, and amateur film-making, though these really are kind of secondary compared to gamin) and I do actually have a couple of friends as well as a significant other. My point is, I'm close to these people, and I'd much rather have say, 3 or 4 people I'm really close to and THAT'S IT rather than 50 half-friends and acquaintences that I only thinly care for that I gained by participating in activities I had no interest in to begin with
i just DOn't understand hOw anyone can be happy with the same shit everyDay. LikE right now i pretty much just go to school/work/gw/sleep and i'm boreD as hell because there's nothing really goIng on. how Can anyone not be fucKing bored aS hell with this?
I'm not bored with it at all, probably because if you're involved in the CREATION of something (say, an rmxp project) and you're passionate enough about it things usually change up quick enough to not be bored. Also if you're a video game and movie buff you don't play/watch the same shit over and over. Video games are intertaining precisely because there's many different genres and styles and individual titles.
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my biggest concern is that she won't even consider that she might have a problem she needs to deal with, which is what most people with problems tend to think
at least the fact that the people here have said as much at least got her attention
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i just DOn't understand hOw anyone can be happy with the same shit everyDay. LikE right now i pretty much just go to school/work/gw/sleep and i'm boreD as hell because there's nothing really goIng on. how Can anyone not be fucKing bored aS hell with this?
Well it's pretty easy to fall into a daily routine like that and almost as hard to get away from it.
I'm pretty much the same right now since all my friends are busy with shit, but managed to get my thumb outta my ass and I'm
off to bring havoc in canada for a week soon. Either you make your way over the edge and do something different or you don't.
I don't really care if someone decides to lock himself/herself in like that, but it's a bit lazy to just stop trying. There's TONS of new stuff you can try.
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Yeah I can kind of see where you're rollin' with this one and I get it. However I just like to think (and this might seem like backpedalling or something depending on how you look at it) that I'm able to differentiate between 'nigger' the joke word and 'nigger' the legitimate racist insult - context is pretty important.
problem with this is there are loads of perfectly acceptable alternatives to using 'nigger.' continual use of that word just makes you look like an immature 15 year old suburban white kid who locks their doors when driving through a black neighborhood.
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also i forgot about replying to this but:
are you actually unhappy with your life, though. because your op made it seem like you were A OKAY with how you're living and if that's not the case you should probably change some things.
i really feel like the whole fact that this topic exists means that she at least thinks that she MIGHT not be completely satisfied with her life, who makes a topic about how swell their life is going?
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the difference is that you have no idea how i live! dissonance spelled out fairly well what her day to day life is like, whereas you just decided what my life is like based on a few small things that have no significance in my life. i don't give a shit about doraemon or lazytown or any of that in my normal day to day life, it's just been blown out of proportion on GW, whereas dissonance clearly comes out and says "I spend my time on this and this and my friends are concerned and I like these things but not these things".
if your life is anything other than IM A BORING COLLEGE STUDENT//SPEND LOTS OF TIME ON THE COMPUTER then i will make you an admin buddy. if you are the type of person who POSTS HOW SICK THEY ARE in whats on your mind, i think i can draw some pretty safe conclusions about exactly how rich and varied your life is (isn't).
also ryan.....transfer to uta. we can Be Buds. you're broke as fuck so maybe they will give you cash. actually idk if thats where im going. i think i should get accepted because minority with a 4.0 buuut if they dont give me enough aid then i cant swing out of state tuition so it might just be osu. still it'd....itd be a dream come true for me. a Dream Come True
well you admitted it that living as a shut-in could lead to mental health issues. I would much rather ridicule her worldview than legitimize it by taking it at all seriously. sometimes these people need to be made fun of to put shit into perspective and to understand that what they're doing is completely fucking stupid.
hmmm yes okay. ridicule and shame can have a powerful impact! but while i admitted it has mental ramifications, i didn't say it was necessarily bad. imo if you want to live alone and go a lil crazy, that's your business! i wouldn't make fun of the person until they "saw the light" because i don't think there's anything really wrong with it. it's not like you calling her an ANIME FAGGOT because she mentioned it once is gong to CURE HER, and even if it did, who's to say she needs to be cured just because she enjoys living life as a hermit?
also my point is that the joke, while not being directly hateful, is still insensitive, considering the connotations and perceptions attached to the word. racial insensitivity still qualifies as racism, even if it is not the DELIBERATELY CONTEMPTFUL kind. idk why people think IT'S OKAY just because they didn't mean it as an insult when they said it. saying the word in and of itself is a different kind of racism, i think. it is less hateful but it's probably dumber/more ignorant in a way, and people should know better.
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yo ryan if you never get your game together you are free to live with me rent free if you wash the dishes and are okay with couching it and possibly being illegally in someone's apartment. you are Cool Enough.
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i mean having a small number of close friends is great but having that and a bunch of more disposable friends are not mutually exclusive! I've probably got like 6-7 really close friends, and a bunch of friends that are pretty disposable but i still enjoy hanging out with them and they make great conversation! i GuEss i jusT can'T live wiThout nice verBal communication with people, it's the only thing that doesn't really get old to me.
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i really feel like the whole fact that this topic exists means that she at least thinks that she MIGHT not be completely satisfied with her life, who makes a topic about how swell their life is going?
i think there is a lot of misinterpretation going on, maybe on your part, maybe on mine. i thought the reason she made this topic was partially for validation and partially for curiosity. it seemed like she was saying I'M OKAY WITH THIS but my friends disagree, what do you guys think? it would be a legitimate discussion topic if it came from someone like ME or STEEL and i do not think people would read so heavily into it if this were the case.
also ffff this topics movin so fast...
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whoa panda
http://www3.uta.edu/fao/portal/?d=page&pid=sp111&parent=31
For the 2009-2010 academic year, UT Arlington will provide grant assistance to cover all fall and spring in-state tuition and fees for undergraduate Texas residents who have a family income of $65,000 or less, receive a Federal Pell Grant, and who are admitted and complete the financial aid application process including all required forms by April 1, 2009.
bein poor rules!!
yo ryan if you never get your game together you are free to live with me rent free if you wash the dishes and are okay with couching it and possibly being illegally in someone's apartment. you are Cool Enough.
Well Bud you should be washin my dishes to pay off that $4000 debt u owe
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yo ryan if you never get your game together you are free to live with me rent free if you wash the dishes and are okay with couching it and possibly being illegally in someone's apartment. you are Cool Enough.
I wanna top this by adding "In Sweden, not far from the beach" and "But you would also have to clean around the place and maybe bring breakfast to my bed once in a while."
edit
Also I have guitars and I know you like playing on them.
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what i thought was really dumb at the start was the obese comments and then someone kept on asking for pictures.
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wahts funny about this topic is dissonance and velfarre are chattin it up in irc right now
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I need somewhere to live and a way to pay for grad school
anyone got any ideas?
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if you are the type of person who POSTS HOW SICK THEY ARE in whats on your mind, i think i can draw some pretty safe conclusions about exactly how rich and varied your life is (isn't).
see that's what i'm saying though, it takes three seconds to type a post saying UGH I'M SICK, and a lot of people did that in that topic...how does that make MY life so awful?
a lot of times my life IS kinda boring, but fuck, i have so much schoolwork that it's kind of hard, and who's life doesn't fall into a typical routine a lot of the time? but, that doesn't mean ALL i do is go to school and sit on the internet, i spend a lot of time with my family (i'm hardly online at all when i'm at home), i walk around town with people i know, when it's the summer and i have more free time i go out on picnics with friends, go fishing, hell, last summer i taught a summer camp for kids and learned i like to play cornhole, the thing is i TRY things in order to see what makes my life more interesting, i don't let things COME TO ME, just because i sometimes get stuck in a routine most people do doesn't mean my life is sit around on the internet
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uta looks really awesome. they pay my tuition cuz im poor and they have a pretty high acceptance rate. on collegeboard though is says they require highschool transcripts from everyone so that might fuck me. i woudl def consider going there if we went together panda... we could be roomies. think of the possibilities. sittin at home on a friday talkin about how all of our classmates are fuckin tools.
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ffff i meant ut austin. god you got me so pumped and then i was like YYAAAAHWWWW NO its arlington. i dunno if austin does that but i hope so.
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bein poor rules!!
i had like a 500 dollar pell grant but there was apparently a computer mix-up and nctc just upped my TPEG to almost the price of tuition and i was chill but i don't think my family's actually that poor which is kinda bullshit though because they're not supporting my through college at all.
panda i'm pretty sure all schools in texas do. don't quote me on that.
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i used to think the outer world was filled with idiots and I was better of alone with my comp, but when I found friends that I really enjoyed spending time with and other important people, that really changed for me. I stillenjoy my own time playing games or whatever, but there's a whle new part of me that's very social that I didn't know existed.
So even though now you might think your friend is wrong, maybe you'll change in the future.
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well frick. ut austin has about half of the acceptance rate of ut arlington (44%)
be more specific next time!!!
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Is it so bad to avoid social interaction and isolate yourself from others?
Speaking from personal experience, I have to say yes. Very bad.
If you willingly do it, derive pleasure from it, enjoy your life, and still manage to not act unadjusted when you DO go into public, can you still be labeled psychologically unhealthy?
Not really, if you are able to act normally around people then I'd say your mind is healthy.
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Is everyone on GW going to universities and becoming super people? I feel so worhless now >_<
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dude youre broke. get better grades and they'll take you!! we can.....we can be together
like trihan and mel
actually i might look into ut arlington, man. if they cover all INSTATE shit for people under 65k (my parents combined make like 120 or some shit buuuuut my dad makes under 50 i think and theyre divorced so i can use his income and not both) then that would rule. idk much about arlington but if it is WARM//BOHEMIAN thatd be nice. i know i'm going to grad school anyway so i dont think my undergrad alma mater matters too much. idk i have to look into it. FREE SCHOOL would rule tho
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uh guys could we please keep it on topic?
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i have pretty good grades. like a 3.something but i've only finished 4 classes so far so it would be easy bringing them up. my mom makes like 35k per year Lol (ironically she went to college) (not totally as bad as it sounds, her work pays for her insurance and shit but that rules for me because it looks better on paper)
arlington is right between dallas and fort worth.
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suck a dick dx this topics now the panda and ryan college planning thread.
dont like it?
rm.nets doors are always open..
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this is gw
mods and admins derailing threads for their own benefit
*spits*
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yep. sounds about right.
ahh.. the breeze is nice here at the top
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like trihan and mel
lol TRIHAN
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see that's what i'm saying though, it takes three seconds to type a post saying UGH I'M SICK, and a lot of people did that in that topic...how does that make MY life so awful?
a lot of times my life IS kinda boring, but fuck, i have so much schoolwork that it's kind of hard, and who's life doesn't fall into a typical routine a lot of the time? but, that doesn't mean ALL i do is go to school and sit on the internet, i spend a lot of time with my family (i'm hardly online at all when i'm at home), i walk around town with people i know, when it's the summer and i have more free time i go out on picnics with friends, go fishing, hell, last summer i taught a summer camp for kids and learned i like to play cornhole, the thing is i TRY things in order to see what makes my life more interesting, i don't let things COME TO ME, just because i sometimes get stuck in a routine most people do doesn't mean my life is sit around on the internet
He was only making a point using you as the example because your posts were some of the most harsh and frequent, not attacking you. You're taking it very personally and while it was meant to be personal to make you understand it wasn't to hurt you so you don't really need to continue attempting to justify your life.
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arlington is where six flags is. live by six flags do it.
also ryan dallas music scene is pretty big and also pretty diverse and i've seen a lot of bands stay together for a while.
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Sorry but if you specifically say YOUR LIFE IS NOTHING BUT SCHOOL AND INTERNET I feel like it's okay for me to take a post to say "no it's not here's why:"
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what do you want to major in panda? im def leaning towards music education but i might go for something like education and minor in music if im not good enough to get in. id like to do something in music though.
wouldnt mind history or political science or something either though
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man its ok velfarre panda is too busy tanking shit with his druid to care about life
so he is just bitter that you are against his lifestyle...
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Sorry but if you specifically say YOUR LIFE IS NOTHING BUT SCHOOL AND INTERNET I feel like it's okay for me to take a post to say "no it's not here's why:"
I know I am just saying you don't need to be as offended as you are appearing because it wasn't meant to be that offensive.
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The idea was to make it personal so that I could be on the other end of it, and that's how I'd respond to that. That's all it is, a response. If I didn't respond then what would have been the point?
Arguing over whether or not I should have felt offended doesn't really matter though because I was, and I responded, and it's done.
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i didn't say your life was like that at all?? also most things you typed were pretty boring. I GO FOR WALKS SOMETIMES. really, guy? someone who TRAVELS THE WORLD could easily come and tell you you're not really living, either, just going to school and going to an occasional picnic. but if you are happy then the point is that you ARE living and even if his life is more RICH//FULL//VARIED then he can't really be saying anything to you because maybe his life isn't for you and that's okay!! how do you not get this man. idk why you bother telling me about your life because there's nothing you could do unless you are a SECRET AGENT where this wouldn't apply to you.
also. my major atm is english or poli sci but i am switching to poli sci when i transfer. it is definitely gonna be a social science because that is the type of thing i love. when i started i thought i would do SOCIOLOGY and then i cycled through various other things like anthro and psych and all that jazz and it is all v cool although i am less into psych but my brother says that you need doctorates to do all that shit and i am already getting kind of old for that! so i tried to think of something i could do on the masters level and i am DRAWING A BLANK but i chose poli sci because you could go into a lot of shit on the grad level from it. short answer is i have No Fucking Clue. history would rule but what do you do with that :(
i wish you could major in what you wanted to know about and have a career based on something else. i would love to do MUSIC but like... idk i dont know dick about music and where would that even go. you are lucky to be doing music, i think.
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what do you want to major in panda? im def leaning towards music education but i might go for something like education and minor in music if im not good enough to get in. id like to do something in music though.
wouldnt mind history or political science or something either though
i'm kind of weird though as far as jobs go. as long as it's pretty tolerable (i wouldn't mind teaching in general, really depends on the subject though) i'm fine with it. as long as i have enough spare time to play music at nights and shit i really could care less about what i do. obviously i'd prefer doing music full time but if thats not an option part times cool too..
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also doing history you tend to end up just teaching. same with poli sci. if you go into grad level you can do research and write about it and shit but you'd prolly have to teach too to pay the bills.
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i mean, i think you are ON THE RIGHT PATH. being a freelance music teacher sounds awesome. you would do something really cool for a living in that a) you'd get to play music and b) you'd be helping others learn to play. this is the best thing! plus you'd have flexible hours and tons of time off. the more i describe this the more it sounds like a dream job, especially if you lived in a BIG CITY and not some random gay suburb.
also yeah most social sciences seem to lead to teaching or research/teaching. idk about that! my geology/urban studies prof has two doctorates tho and he says he routinely gets offers from THINKTANKS so maybe you could do something like that?? he also mentioned POLICY ADVISOR but those both sound like the creme de la creme lol and probably require doctorates so on the master level it looks pr. bleak. maybe i should just commit to a phd but who wants to be in school that long when theyre already years behind?
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The idea was to make it personal so that I could be on the other end of it, and that's how I'd respond to that. That's all it is, a response. If I didn't respond then what would have been the point?
Arguing over whether or not I should have felt offended doesn't really matter though because I was, and I responded, and it's done.
I wasn't trying to argue with you, I noticed from your posts that you seemed very agitated and defensive and because no one else was saying anything to you I figured I'd try to reassure you that you shouldn't feel bad, that's all.
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hello, vb.
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i didn't say your life was like that at all??
if your life is anything other than IM A BORING COLLEGE STUDENT//SPEND LOTS OF TIME ON THE COMPUTER then i will make you an admin buddy.
this is EXACTLY what you said and you said it despite the fact i said several posts ago i got your point about people living their own lives, you just added onto it to say things about ME specifically
I wasn't trying to argue with you, I noticed from your posts that you seemed very agitated and defensive and because no one else was saying anything to you I figured I'd try to reassure you that you shouldn't feel bad, that's all.
See I don't mean to be that defensive but I can't really help it when he's trying to remake a point I already understood when it seems like he's just trying to say more things about who he thinks I am. I think it's pretty normal to want to defend yourself!
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oh hey VB, how are you?!
its pretty cool i read your post and a band you gave me came on shuffle...
np: Replaceable Parts - Feeling Left Out [Once ][/Once] - 6m53s
just remmeber your...your not replaceable..
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also where's my admin powers you owe me
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Hi panda. I am glad to see you are going to school! Congratulations and good luck with that.
And hi dragonx too. Cool that you still listen to that stuff.
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ouch :(
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nah man i said you were a college student who spends a lot of time on the computer. can you deny this? i didnt say school/computer activities were all you did because i think being a college student implies you have a family and a social life of some sort. but from what you wrote your life is exactly what i expected and pretty much IM A COLLEGE STUDENT//I HAVE A COMPUTER. going on picnics in the summer and spending time with "the fam" doesnt change that.
are you going to start posting again. how's things
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i mean, i think you are ON THE RIGHT PATH. being a freelance music teacher sounds awesome. you would do something really cool for a living in that a) you'd get to play music and b) you'd be helping others learn to play. this is the best thing! plus you'd have flexible hours and tons of time off. the more i describe this the more it sounds like a dream job, especially if you lived in a BIG CITY and not some random gay suburb.
also yeah most social sciences seem to lead to teaching or research/teaching. idk about that! my geology/urban studies prof has two doctorates tho and he says he routinely gets offers from THINKTANKS so maybe you could do something like that?? he also mentioned POLICY ADVISOR but those both sound like the creme de la creme lol and probably require doctorates so on the master level it looks pr. bleak. maybe i should just commit to a phd but who wants to be in school that long when theyre already years behind?
yeah in bigger cities a music teacher with an education degree makes big bucks. i don't even care much about the money though, really. i know that sounds cheesy as fuck but i am so ridiculously tunnel visioned on this subject. (must play music..by Any Means Necessary)
i would love to be some sort of policy advisor but yeah i'm pretty positive that requires a PhD, or a masters and a lot of experience working in that field.
i would love to go to graduate school too. i think staying in school and getting a phd would be rad.
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man I'm starting to think my only option for grad school is to do one of those intense language program things that they do where they pay for you to train in a language for 2 years that involves a year of stateside study and a year of study abroad and then working for the government for 2 years but getting a masters degree for that language at the end. only problem with that is I dont really want to be a persianist that bad, though if I like tajikistan well enough when I go there spring quarter next year I might not mind embassy duty in Doshanbe lol
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I don't plan on it, I don't have a lot to say these days. I just felt like someone needed to address velfarres posts but I guess I was wrong.
I read the forums a couple of times a week because of attachments and would probably post more if I felt like I had anything interesting to say but I don't so... I don't. I know that never stopped me from making 300 terrible posts a day before, though. I don't know what else to say!
Dragonx I didn't see your response until I sent the other one so... it's in the other post.
Anyway I don't want to derail this topic anymore.
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Lol dude there's like 3 separate convos going on at the same time in this thread. i dont think its possible to derail anymore!!
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so what did everyone have for lunch today?
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nothing!!! i had mcdonalds for dinner tho.
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gr takes the cake
(i had cake)
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Music Education? Music Is NOT Something That can Be Taught - Shepperd
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i had a pretty cool mexican salad for dinner. it had this cilantro lime vinaigrette dressing and lemme tell ya
it
was
to die for!!
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Music Education? Music Is NOT Something That can Be Taught - Shepperd
too coherent, sorry
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Music education? nonono, music is from the soul. As John once said, "Music comes from my dick." Music educationers are just hipsters with no dick. You should play from you heart. I'm not saying you can't do that. I do this. I'm saying the way in which you and several others do this is reproachable.
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nah man i said you were a college student who spends a lot of time on the computer. can you deny this? i didnt say school/computer activities were all you did because i think being a college student implies you have a family and a social life of some sort. but from what you wrote your life is exactly what i expected and pretty much IM A COLLEGE STUDENT//I HAVE A COMPUTER. going on picnics in the summer and spending time with "the fam" doesnt change that.
Seriously man? All you did was say "everything you say you do with your life doesn't matter because heh, it's all about college student and computers". Hanging with "the fam"? You don't even know how much of my life is focused around my family. It's not sitting around a TV eating dinner in silence, my family actually SPENDS TIME together. A LOT of time. Not even just my parents, I mean extended family too. You're just writing off portions of my life because you want to paint me as this shut-in who sits on the internet all day to use me as an example. I DID deny it, but you ignored that and kept going.
But welp thanks for just doing exactly what I said you were doing by not trying to prove a point about letting people live their lives at all. I guess I should just quit because you don't care about any of this anyway, I'm the only one who's being affected by it. Just know that you're not making yourself this great guy by trying to play down my life while arguing that doing that is wrong.
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ahahahahahaha. thats the best shep impression
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i started work at the capitol today and i met a lobbyist-type who took me and the two other interns to a fancy fundraising thing for a republican from miami where we got fancy quesadillas. then we went to a mental health conference at the top floor of the capitol building where they had bacon-wrapped steak on a stick and lobster and a fountain of chocolate you could dip things in because my professor happens to be a representative who was giving a speech at it.
when i introduced myself and said i was working for the ex-obama campaign manager they tried to win me over to their side. the mental health people were the fucking coolest though.
my dinner..was better than yours!!
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hahaha headphonics made velfarre sperg out for like the second time in a week.
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also velfarre what the fuck are you even talking about. i just said your life sounded kinda boring and regular like any other fucking college student your age who is also a nerd. whoaa i go to class, surf the net, spend time with my family, hang out with friends. who cares none of this changes anything i said! that is still an immensely limited life is the point and i have no idea why you would think i'm trying to paint you out to be a shut in but the only conclusion i can draw is that you are, in fact, just kinda dumb. like really your reading comprehension skills are just surprisingly lacking, is what i mean.
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i started work at the capitol today and i met a lobbyist-type who took me and the two other interns to a fancy fundraising thing for a republican from miami where we got fancy quesadillas. then we went to a mental health conference at the top floor of the capitol building where they had bacon-wrapped steak on a stick and lobster and a fountain of chocolate you could dip things in because my professor happens to be a representative who was giving a speech at it.
when i introduced myself and said i was working for the ex-obama campaign manager they tried to win me over to their side. the mental health people were the fucking coolest though.
my dinner..was better than yours!!
Big Day treggy, Big Day
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hahaha headphonics made velfarre sperg out for like the second time in a week.
goddammit seriously guys i hate this, i can't react to anything said about me because i apparently REACT TOO MUCH but i can't help the fact that things like this bother me, especially since i've had a lot of emotional things going on in my life anyway
headphonics i am not saying my life is the best but you just keep on posting about how boring it is as if you know all about having the best life and then at the same time saying i should be more accepting of other people's lives
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i'm saying it's boring because it is! my life is boring too. my point is unless you are living some ridiculously fabulous life, your life is probably not that much more rich and varied than hers is, so saying her life is no life at all is not really very logical. this is the only point that i am making here. i don't care about your life at all, but even you should be able to recognize that if you are a student and spend most of your free time either surfing the net or with your family, you are not really experiencing all that life has to offer. really velfarre this is not THAT DIFFICULT. unless it is in which case........welp velfarre maybe.......maybe you understand what its like to be mentally challenged a lil more than you previously thought
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He is really not attacking you in any way, so people aren't teasing you for reacting but for overreacting to something that you're taking completely wrong. Well, he's not attacking you about your lifestyle. He is making fun of your inability to comprehend that he's not attacking you.
Oh, by the way, why did I get like 16 pm's asking what's wrong with people's zoo accounts? I'm sure they're old but did it go down or something?
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zoo is down permanently afaik
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It was down for months. Now BIBLE BASHER//FARA//WHOEVER THE FUCK hosts a new one, though.
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Sarah! We missed you. Hope you're doing well.
This is the best topic, really. Fuck the internet's STAY ON-TOPIC rules, derails are DA BOMB.
btw good luck panda and ryan. sounds like you guys are taking the right path in applying to good public schools and getting loads of cash for being poor. I wish i had done that :(
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panda started the whole "you can't talk your life is boring" thing after i agreed that what i did at first was wrong, i don't see how it's weird that i don't think he's trying to explain something to me at this point
i KNOW i overreacted to the whole thing but like i said i've had a lot of shit going on, and it's kind of hard to not feel like things are more hostile than they are when you're already in that mood, the bad part is just that he kept on DOING it after i said that it was upsetting
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Oh, that's understandable. It must have went down shortly after my departure for people to still think I was modding it. I don't know who the person you're referring to is but it's cool of them to do that.
And hi ase, I'm surviving. I miss everyone here, too.
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tbh I'm just kinda messing with you now but I definitely didn't try to imply you were a shut in and I don't know why you would think that. if you GOT THE POINT of what I was saying idk why you kept trying to justify your life to me like it really changed anything about what I was saying or like I was even attacking it to begin with when I was actually just USING AN EXAMPLE. I think you misinterpret things very very easily.
also these are my fav kinds of topics
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Well maybe I do but I will say it again, I'm not exactly at my happiest right now. It's kind of hard to not respond to things so strongly when you're already upset to begin with, this was just added on top of it. I just think that when I've already explained that I'm upset about it you shouldn't keep messing with someone, that's a really harsh thing to do! I mean if Dissonance had said "hey guys could you stop it this is upsetting" I wouldn't have posted anything else about it, hell, even though I got frustrated by her continuing to defend the word nigger we still had a fairly straightforward conversation on IRC. I just don't think it's cool to KEEP GOING after someone says they're done. I was already upset, and so because you kept going it just made things worse and worse and my replies got worse and worse too. I don't know if it's fair to judge someone's reactions based on something like that.
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you can't blame her for being confused headphonics. if I understand correctly: while actually doing stuff outside the house is a lot more varied than sitting at home with my books anime and games, it isn't exactly livin life on the edge 200 km/hr in the wrong lane. woaaah sweet ad hominem, I love Jabs I won't make an argument without em. throw out the case, you gotta be Dare Devil or better above to criticize dissonance.
I just don't get why you'd bother, there's a pretty big difference between average college student and a hermit so why make the point??
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prolly because she's not a hermit and you're an idiot
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also because the issue isnt WHOS LIVIN LIFE FASTER but the fact that standards of quality in relation to lifestyle are completely relative so she should not be criticized because she does not want to live velfarre's typical college student life
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hey its a heady post *cracks knuckles*
i'm not sure i can think of anyone more uninteresting than you, render
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i started work at the capitol today and i met a lobbyist-type who took me and the two other interns to a fancy fundraising thing for a republican from miami where we got fancy quesadillas. then we went to a mental health conference at the top floor of the capitol building where they had bacon-wrapped steak on a stick and lobster and a fountain of chocolate you could dip things in because my professor happens to be a representative who was giving a speech at it.
when i introduced myself and said i was working for the ex-obama campaign manager they tried to win me over to their side. the mental health people were the fucking coolest though.
my dinner..was better than yours!!
its only a matter of time until our boy is just another slut for some corporation
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hey its a heady post *cracks knuckles*
i'm not sure i can think of anyone more uninteresting than you, render
ahaha
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earl is that really your deviantart
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i have my cell phone's calender set to remind me twice a day that every day is heapdhonics' gw period
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goddammit seriously guys i hate this, i can't react to anything said about me because i apparently REACT TOO MUCH but i can't help the fact that things like this bother me, especially since i've had a lot of emotional things going on in my life anyway
don't get me wrong i have sympathy because it seems lately that the GW KOOL KREW is harping on you for a lot of stuff that GW DOES IN GENERAL and isn't specific to YOU BEIN STUPID or whatever, i just think your reactions are pretty funny
its only a matter of time until our boy is just another slut for some corporation
better a slut than a swain...
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is it 14-bis? if so forgot I had that in there. and no I just like him
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GOD BALLS
This thread has grown since I left... it has become kind of exhausting... could someone summarize the past 2 pages for me? It would be much appreciated.
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lol texas hope u like ropin' cattle or gettin' ur lean on offa some purple drank
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just wanna point out that my life is awesome and I'm going to jump out a helicopter and shred fresh powder down a mountain tomorrow and grind on railings all the way to work
:fogetcool:
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GOD BALLS
This thread has grown since I left... it has become kind of exhausting... could someone summarize the past 2 pages for me? It would be much appreciated.
hp: BLAH BLAH BLAH FUCK YALL FOR H8TIN BLAH ESPECIALLY VELFARRE
Velma: WAH WAH NO UH I DIN't DO NUTIN I WUZ RIGHT WAH
HP: NAH UR PROLLY NOT THAT GR8 AND YOU IS BORING 2
Velma: NAH WAH WAH WHY U SO MEA
VELMA: ALSO IM NOT LOSER
RYAN: WHAR I GONAN GO TO SCOOL?!?
HP: IM GOING TAH TEXAS
RYAN: HEY I WANT TO GO TO TEXAS TOO~
VB: HEY WASSUP
RYAN&HP: LETS GOTO COLLAGE TOGETHER
Dietcoke: DICKs!!!
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i just DOn't understand hOw anyone can be happy with the same shit everyDay. LikE right now i pretty much just go to school/work/gw/sleep and i'm boreD as hell because there's nothing really goIng on. how Can anyone not be fucKing bored aS hell with this?
DOODLE DICKS
as soon as i get however many credits im transferring to hopefully LA or <insert gigantic city.> i can't take it here anymore. its drivin me BonKerS
LABKS
i mean having a small number of close friends is great but having that and a bunch of more disposable friends are not mutually exclusive! I've probably got like 6-7 really close friends, and a bunch of friends that are pretty disposable but i still enjoy hanging out with them and they make great conversation! i GuEss i jusT can'T live wiThout nice verBal communication with people, it's the only thing that doesn't really get old to me.
IGETTTB
Music Education? Music Is NOT Something That can Be Taught - Shepperd
MEMINOTSTBTS
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i do this whenever people capitalise random letters i thought i'd share these findings though
DDay was the worst
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lifes overrated
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looks like a nuclear bomb went off in this topic (foget has radiation poisoning now)...
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just poppin' in to say that i feel hella better now (i guess it's only been like five hours but i was asleep so whatever it's a NEW DAY) and basically the only reason i did any of this shit is because a lot of stuff was on my mind last night that had nothing to do with gw so basically it was just the exact WRONG night for people to be calling me out, so i still wish hp would have stopped adding to it when i said something about it before it went so far like it did
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Do people here see some sort of point scale of lives or something....
swimming with dolphins: +15 life points
visiting foreign countries +1 life point each. add an extra point if said country is suitably either undeveloped or dangerous.
having friends +1 life point for every 10 friends you have
watching anime -1 life point lol go outside for once you socially stunted nerd
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killing a man -20 per man
killing a man for insulting your wife +50 per man plus +1 for each musket ball remaining in your body
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liking a non mainstream band/author/performer who later becomes prolific: +1 life point
using the word "leet": -5 life points
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i do this whenever people capitalise random letters i thought i'd share these findings though
DDay was the worst
this is good because about 30% of the time i put words in my capital letters and the other 70% i either don't capitalize or it's random.
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whats on your mind :cursing:
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Do people here see some sort of point scale of lives or something....
swimming with dolphins: +15 life points
visiting foreign countries +1 life point each. add an extra point if said country is suitably either undeveloped or dangerous.
having friends +1 life point for every 10 friends you have
watching anime -1 life point lol go outside for once you socially stunted nerd
velfarre does something like this, then converts the raw score to a colour
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level up your life
- -square enix slogan, 2003