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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Liquid Ocelot on February 16, 2009, 08:03:10 pm
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If there is any favorite music genre of mine, it would be Metal. I enjoy many metal bands such as:
Metallica(Favorite album: "Ride the Lightning" and "...and justice for all)
Iron Maiden("Powerslave")
Disturbed("Ten thousand fists")
Machine Head("Burn My Eyes")
Rise Against("The Sufferer & The Witness")
Slayer("Hell Awaits" and "Reign in Blood")
Killswitch Engage("Alive or Just Breathing" and As "Daylight Dies")
Protest the Hero("Fortress")
So yeah, those are my main favorite anyway. But the main question is that are any of you guys interusted in metal? Favorite bands? albums?
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you made this topic approximately 3 years too late
but to answer your question the only metal bands I really like still to this day are like.. opeth and blind guardian (the two bands that were my favorite when I was a metalhead) and the former mainly because of their non-metal music and the latter mostly for nostalgia. there are some 'drone' type or doom metal bands that I still like but its largely mood music and I mostly like it for the atmosphere and the folky aspect to a lot of the bands (such as agalloch) rather than the chugga chugga so yea
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I used to be really into heavy metal (and some of gw's dumber people still think I am) and thought it was the best shit ever. Which for a lonely 15 year old... it most likely was! But I grew older, tastes changed and now I can barely listen to any of it.
the only metal I listen to semi-regularly now is Judas priest's first three albums, and I still occasionally enjoy the non-bruce maiden albums... yet curiously Bruce's solo stuff is prettymuch the only other metal I listen to.
I can't listen to music anymore unless it has vibe solos.
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I personally like classic metal much more than modern, yeah quite a few of my favorites are modern but really though, bands like Iron Maiden blow them away. Modern Metal like Linkin Park(I belive they are metal) really fucking suck donkey shit due to the lack of talent and the fact that they are REALLY overplayed. Yeah some can say Metallica is overplayed, but they at least have talent(exept in st. anger, but even that album wasn't terrible).
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ahaha dude I don't think you really know what metal is but thats probably a good thing
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ahaha dude I don't think you really know what metal is but thats probably a good thing
Oh I know very well what metal is, its just that I got into it not too long ago so yeah you can kind of all me a "newbie" at metal, but I have listened to enough metal to know which is garbage or not but that is all out of personal opinion.
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Q: Why do metal heads always feel like they should say something bad about linkin park
A: Nobody cares
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excellent topic 10 guitar solos out of 10
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metal nerd: hold on, just got to post my contempt for linkin park on the message boards
everyone else: linkin park is still together? who even listens to them.
the answer is no one and even people who like linkin park i'm pretty sure it's nobody's favorite band. linkin park is the definition of harmless white noise. their music sucks but nobody cares because nobody really pays much attention to them.
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Just lock it, sorry if you thought it was a topic where I ripped on linkin park :(
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Don't apologise to these goons Liquid Ocelot.
Don't apologise to anyone for loving metal. Rock on.
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If there is any favorite music genre of mine, it would be Metal. I enjoy many metal bands such as:
Disturbed("Ten thousand fists")
Machine Head("Burn My Eyes")
Rise Against("The Sufferer & The Witness")
Slayer("Hell Awaits" and "Reign in Blood")
Killswitch Engage("Alive or Just Breathing" and As "Daylight Dies")
Protest the Hero("Fortress")
So yeah, those are my main favorite anyway. But the main question is that are any of you guys interusted in metal? Favorite bands? albums?
These all suck.
Some real metal for you.
Amon Amarth
Arch Enemy
Between the Buried and Me
Cynic
Death
Ephel Duath
Finntroll
Heaven Shall Burn
Iced Earth
In Flames
Into Eternity
Kalmah
Mastodon
Meshuggah
Mors Principium Est
Quo Vadis
SikTh
Testament
Ulver
That is only a small selection but will help you get going in the right direction.
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These all suck.
Some real metal for you.
Amon Amarth
Arch Enemy
Between the Buried and Me
Cynic
Death
Ephel Duath
Finntroll
Heaven Shall Burn
Iced Earth
In Flames
Into Eternity
Kalmah
Mastodon
Meshuggah
Mors Principium Est
Quo Vadis
SikTh
Testament
Ulver
That is only a small selection but will help you get going in the right direction.
I already listen to the underlined ones, not too much but getting there...thanks though
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Do your thing man!!!
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These all suck.
Some real metal for you.
Amon Amarth
Arch Enemy
Between the Buried and Me
Cynic
Death
Ephel Duath
Finntroll
Heaven Shall Burn
Iced Earth
In Flames
Into Eternity
Kalmah
Mastodon
Meshuggah
Mors Principium Est
Quo Vadis
SikTh
Testament
Ulver
That is only a small selection but will help you get going in the right direction.
Good job for recommending quite a few crappy bands that pretty much everyone knows anyways...
I've been into metal for a long time. I listen mostly to doom metal and some black metal bands. I never really got into death metal except for stuff like Edge of Sanity. I find most metalheads to be extremely annoying and most recent bands to be terrible. A lot of bands are getting so frickin' wanky for no reason it's insane. I also have my own doom metal band, some day GW will hear it!
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two words man, two words
never gonna need two more words when it comes to metal.
Blind. Guardian.
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listen to:
the faceless
arsis
all shall perish
within the ruins
veil of maya
between the buried and me
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Iced Earth
In Flames
Soilwork
Spineshank
Are a few metal bands I still listen to. Haven't listened to a lot of metal in a while.
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limp bizkits in the house yall
bring that beat BACK
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Say what you will about Linkin Park. One Step Closer is a proper tune.
I used, like many, to be really into metal. Still really like Opeth and Devin Townsend related stuff, but as a general rule i'm less interested. Every now and then you've got to put Therion or something similar on and cheese the fuck out though, as with every genre.
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I like metal but for the most part I don't understand the appeal of death or black metal. I listen to Scar Symmetry, Deadlock, Disillusion, Raintime and a little bit of Opeth but at least those bands don't put such overwhelming emphasis on the gutteral cookie monster vocals. In my opinion, they make the cookie monster vocals catchy and work within the frame of the music... but to me it only accents the clean vocals. I have a hard time tolerating the straight up death and black stuff... I don't see what's creative enough to distinguish two bands. Cookie monster vocals all do sound pretty close the same, anyway... at least compared to the spice rack that is singing.
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I used to be into the hardcore scene and shit like the generic metal/emo stuff but I'm pretty much into more tech metal type stuff now. Stuff that's not about HUR HUR IM FUCKING HARDCORE AND EAT BATS AND PUNCH BABIES FUCK YOU or MAN I AM SO SAD I AM GOING TO SCREAM TO THE WORLD, but is more about actually sounding good and like you put effort into composing/putting the music together. Like mama luigi I can't really stand all that guttural type growling. Lots of metal vocalist suck with exceptions like Periphery, Protest the Hero, and Iron Maiden, ahd uh, other people.
Also, this guy. (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandid=147108)
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two words man, two words
never gonna need two more words when it comes to metal.
Blind. Guardian.
I don't listen to metal much at all... but I am a sucker for music like this. It has the perfect amount of ridiculousness without going over the top like fucking Dragonforce.
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Mudvayne
Manowar
Rammstein
Hatebreed
hed pe
disturbed
finntroll
:woop:
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I like metal but for the most part I don't understand the appeal of death or black metal. I listen to Scar Symmetry, Deadlock, Disillusion, Raintime and a little bit of Opeth but at least those bands don't put such overwhelming emphasis on the gutteral cookie monster vocals. In my opinion, they make the cookie monster vocals catchy and work within the frame of the music... but to me it only accents the clean vocals. I have a hard time tolerating the straight up death and black stuff... I don't see what's creative enough to distinguish two bands. Cookie monster vocals all do sound pretty close the same, anyway... at least compared to the spice rack that is singing.
It's funny that you bring down death and black metal because of the vocal style and how they aren't "creative" or whatever yet you list Scar Symmetry and Deadlock. Although the vocals are easier to follow, both bands are extremely generic and rip-off quite a few other bands. Also, Scar Symmetry is probably the worse band I've seen live after Samael. Also, most black metal doesn't have guttural vocals, they're higher rasp-like vocals.
A few bands:
Ahab
Ava Inferi
Celtic Frost
ColdWorld
Deinonychus
Devin Townsend
How Like A Winter
Keen of the Crow
Neurosis
The Old Dead Tree
Paradise Lost
Raventale
Reverrend Bizarre
A lot of doomy stuff in there hahaha.
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Manowar
Hey, Manowar doesn't take shit from anyone. Or they do, actually from pretty much everybody, but even from under the to inch deep layer they shine blindingly out of pure glory. The glory of warriors.
On a serious side note, Strapping Young Lad (Devin Townsend's band) is for all those fed up with all the sucky metal bands trying desperately to sound angry and badass somewhere between the guitar solos and the embarrassing lyrics.
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Here's a bill of some of the better metal bands out there: http://www.scion.com/rock
And yeah, I'm going to be attending this! Tickets were free and people are reselling theirs for $75+ now on ebay. Entry's not even guaranteed since they handed 10,000 and only have room for 5,000. Good thing I live here in Atlanta and am not driving from the other side of the US like some other folks.
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Some of what I listen to:
Opeth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrBrH5PZtcc)
Yyrkoon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJwWTEBBZXg)
Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OZqmUS6uGA)
Pantera (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WmlfqH3Sq4)
Edge of Sanity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwuDbddDUXQ)
Kalmah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DimI_kPjHh0)
Testament (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03g80fITaws)
Megadeth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P8B-ZhAe7I)
Vader (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxxYRuilMmk)
Cannibal Corpse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOx-Ed46-4w)
Sepultura (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kasrfR6CRhA)
Hypocrisy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFlV-83A0I)
Carcass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7lP30tSZF0)
In Flames (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLPXAcAsLgo)
+ much more
And I'm really getting into the new wave of thrash metal bands coming out (HeXeN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY_M2m_65wE),Gama Bomb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d47rb5HGaVo),Municipal Waste (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc5w0uRMF5Y),SSS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O1zh1Wu9nM),Fueled By Fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJx9LnXiTTI),Evile (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr9wObkGTYM), etc.)
Some thoughts...
Never really been an Iron Maiden guy. I can understand why people think they're just so amazing but they're simply not in my taste and I can't get into them. Most likely it's because of Bruce's high pitched voice and almost every verse composed sounds like the exact same power chord progression.
Bands like Killswitch Engaged, Trivium, Lamb of God, Bullet for my Valentine etc. are very very gay and are poser metal. Thank you.
Here's a bill of some of the better metal bands out there: http://www.scion.com/rock
And yeah, I'm going to be attending this! Tickets were free and people are reselling theirs for $75+ now on ebay. Entry's not even guaranteed since they handed 10,000 and only have room for 5,000. Good thing I live here in Atlanta and am not driving from the other side of the US like some other folks.
Damn that looks like fun...
Here in Thunder Bay on April 12th Lamb of God (meh), Children of Bodom (gay), As I lay dying (gay) and Municipal Waste ( YIPPPYYYYYY!!!) are coming to town. Haven't made up my mind as to go or not..
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So while I agree that some of those bands you named suck, why are they poser? what does it take to be a "poser" metal band?
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It's funny that you bring down death and black metal because of the vocal style and how they aren't "creative" or whatever yet you list Scar Symmetry and Deadlock. Although the vocals are easier to follow, both bands are extremely generic and rip-off quite a few other bands. Also, Scar Symmetry is probably the worse band I've seen live after Samael. Also, most black metal doesn't have guttural vocals, they're higher rasp-like vocals.
What is generic about Deadlock? Or even Scar Symmetry for that matter? Deadlock is female fronted melodeath (where the female in question is using clean vocals)... that's something I've never encountered before... not to mention the employment of the electronic and jazz elements. Their older stuff like earth.revolt was pretty generic from what I can tell. Also yeah I knew the distinction between black and death vocals but they both are so forced and ridiculous and I can't take any music seriously that uses nothing but them!
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MEh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXlMwdZVv1U&feature=related
Some of these "not metal" bands shouldn't even be on this list, though.
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MEh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXlMwdZVv1U&feature=related
Some of these "not metal" bands shouldn't even be on this list, though.
I found it humerous when it said "This is just dumb....*dragonforce*"(even though I don't really "hate" them, their music just isn't my thing)
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dark_crystalis, I absolutely love How Like a Winter. Too bad they only have the 1.5 albums.
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this topic should have ended with my post
:hmm:
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I used to be really into heavy metal (and some of gw's dumber people still think I am) and thought it was the best shit ever. Which for a lonely 15 year old... it most likely was! But I grew older, tastes changed and now I can barely listen to any of it.
the only metal I listen to semi-regularly now is Judas priest's first three albums, and I still occasionally enjoy the non-bruce maiden albums... yet curiously Bruce's solo stuff is prettymuch the only other metal I listen to.
I can't listen to music anymore unless it has vibe solos.
yeah Priest!!! :fogetrockon:
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What is generic about Deadlock? Or even Scar Symmetry for that matter? Deadlock is female fronted melodeath (where the female in question is using clean vocals)... that's something I've never encountered before... not to mention the employment of the electronic and jazz elements. Their older stuff like earth.revolt was pretty generic from what I can tell. Also yeah I knew the distinction between black and death vocals but they both are so forced and ridiculous and I can't take any music seriously that uses nothing but them!
I only listened to one album plus a few songs, I can't even remember the title of the album. Except for the female vocals the music was extremely generic melodic death metal. Scar Symmetry are just part of this "new wave" of popular metal bands that just plain suck. I get so many albums that sound exactly the same and Scar Symmetry is a part of those bands. Their solos are generic, uninspiring plus they can't even pull them off properly live. I really don't get it why a lot of people listen to them. They just don't have any really redeeming qualities. And is it just me or are most fans around 15-16?
Brad, good list of bands there. Most of them are well known but for good reasons. Edge of Sanity is so frickin' good. The new Cannibal Corpse is also very very solid, the production is great. The only band in that list that I really dislike is Kalmah, I couldn't get into them.
the_hoodie, I'm glad you liked them. I talked with the singer online and he didn't rule out the possibility of another How Like A Winter album but they're currently not living in the same city so it's hard to practice. It's been 6 years so I doubt they're really going to make on especially since the singer is now doing The Foreshadowing (check them out, pretty good).
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Darkthrone you stupid kids. DARKTHRONE. jesus.
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At the Gates (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muOSpKMLnFM)
I grew up with this album, tremble everytime I hear the shotgun and still love jamming along to this.. well that is when I'm in mood for this kind of music. It's pretty hard to listen to nowadays :shady:
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this topic should have ended with my post
:hmm:
Eh I found them to be pretty cheese-tastic ..
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uh huh says the guy who listens to metal in general
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So you think heavy metal's cheesy.. well that's your opinion I suppose..
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I like symphonic metal. Epica is great if you can get over the cheesy lyrics, and Apocalyptica rocks out on fucking cellos, they're pretty awesome.
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So you think heavy metal's cheesy.. well that's your opinion I suppose..
nope this is pretty well established. definition of cheesy or what.
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By the way I hate the well that's your opinion argument. I mean it's pretty dumb to vehemently defend cheesy music too but that's your opinion is on the same level as you're just jealous as far as arguments go. I'd actually respect that guy who talked about the chord progressions in Chinese democracy more than the guy who says well that's your opinion.
I would still think he's pretty dumb but at least he's trying.
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come on now is any music not cheesy?
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what? in order for a concept of cheesy (see kitsch) to exist you have to have something with artistic merit and taste in the first place.
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hammerfall's latest vid:
a young girl is attacked by ferocious werebeasts but nvm cause Thor throws series of thunderbolts which turn into the members of hammerfall as they strike the ground. The lead singer surfs in on a flying guitar shaped like a hammer. They smite the werebeasts during some mad solo riffage and refuse the girl's offer of sexual favours. thor smiles and invites the band to play in valhalla
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I don't call that cheesy
Now! Thats What I Call Music[/i]
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hammerfall's latest vid:
a young girl is attacked by ferocious werebeasts but nvm cause Thor throws series of thunderbolts which turn into the members of hammerfall as they strike the ground. The lead singer surfs in on a flying guitar shaped like a hammer. They smite the werebeasts during some mad solo riffage and refuse the girl's offer of sexual favours. thor smiles and invites the band to play in valhalla
its this but sponsored by accuvision.
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listen to:
the faceless
arsis
all shall perish
within the ruins
veil of maya
between the buried and me
how dare you confuse metalcore with metal :fogetshh:
and by that i mean ASP and VOM
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There's so many homo little variants of metal I'm pretty sure you can include metalcore in with metal for recommendations
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exactly
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its this but sponsored by accuvision.
beat me to it.
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Somehow one way or another I have two Iron Maiden songs on my computer.
They're pretty good but I can't imagine listening to this kind of music ALL THE TIME one or two songs is enough.
edit: oh wait apparently I just have one, could have sworn I had another somewhere oh well one is enough :welp:
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They're pretty good but I can't imagine listening to this kind of music ALL THE TIME one or two songs is enough.
It's a terrible idea for anyone to listen a single type of music all the time, it promotes a closed mind and just turns people into bastards when another genre of music is brought up... I think in the long run metal and rock is what I've listened to the most, but I've learnt to branch out alot into other genres. I couldn't imagine listening to metal, hip-hop, prog or anything ALL THE TIME anymore.
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By the way I hate the well that's your opinion argument. I mean it's pretty dumb to vehemently defend cheesy music too but that's your opinion is on the same level as you're just jealous as far as arguments go. I'd actually respect that guy who talked about the chord progressions in Chinese democracy more than the guy who says well that's your opinion.
I would still think he's pretty dumb but at least he's trying.
It takes some courage to argue or defend ones opinion and it takes even more to ADMIT and try to look things from other people's/different perspective. That guy's criterion might have been elementary (the one who defended Chinese Democracy) but at least he is actually giving other people chance to know WHY he thinks it is good, to let other people see his justification.
Anybody who goes " welp well thats youro pinion" in the face of an argument is basically not willing to explain/defend his justification, yet alone to argue about it. This is baseless and is giving a very anti-intellectual, dumb image of the person and i don't think I'd want to discuss about music with that person ever again.
i mean why would i? all he/she does is just expressing PREFERENCES, not actually discussing about them. go namedrop somewhere else/get out of the music forum if you don't want to discuss about music.
"i really like iron maiden/linkin park they rule." "uhhhhhh it's a pretty horrible band you know!" "well that's jjsut yuir opinon :welp:"
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It's a terrible idea for anyone to listen a single type of music all the time, it promotes a closed mind and just turns people into bastards when another genre of music is brought up... I think in the long run metal and rock is what I've listened to the most, but I've learnt to branch out alot into other genres. I couldn't imagine listening to metal, hip-hop, prog or anything ALL THE TIME anymore.
This is p. true. I guess I've just met quite a few people that listen ONLY to metal more than I have people who only listen to one other genre.
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im just here to say i listen to best metal thats all
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etc.
yeah this is what i was saying or are you still just in the explaining everything kick?
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metal is really cheesy, but i don't really understand why that matters so much. sometimes i just want to listen to something cheesy. i used to listen to a lot of metal but not so much anymore, but sometimes the mood strikes me, and i just want to sit around and pretend like im fourteen again
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I like the occasional cheesy music as much as anyone but some people's entire musical library consists of metal, that's what I was talking about earlier.
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they're called teenagers or manchildren depending on age
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ahhh thats better
also nah guys, metal is cheesy it clearly is
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ahhh thats better
also nah guys, metal is cheesy it clearly is
I love your sweeping generalization. I contend that while much of it lacks originality, it's not unheard of for a piece of music holding great artistic merit to be found somewhere in the metal genre. The same could be said about any genre, actually.
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im not sure we're all operating on the same definition of cheesy as ARTISTIC MERIT has nothing to do with cheese???
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Cheese: (nerd pandering?)
EDIT: Jesus fucking christ this is the official video for this particular song.
Art:
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The same could be said about any genre, actually.
This applies to art/shit -ratio on a basic level, but the only genres I can come up with that have got even close to the fondue dripping level of metal are trance, euro dance and perhaps jazz fusion. Gotta love that hole ridden rhythm section and those creamy sax solos. You have to get your daily 55g of protein from somewhere you know.
Also Ramci, your using of Iron Maiden as an example is greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Oh and probably that new age world music whatever stuff. I know next to nothing about it, but everything I've heard has been cheesy as hell.
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The second one is average cheesy prog metal and pretty far from art.
Move out of the way Henry Cow, your art-rock credentials are being revoked, check out the might of... Sympnony-X!
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yeah this is what i was saying or are you still just in the explaining everything kick?
i think i just misinterpreted you a little. i thought you claimed that anybody who says does that WELL THAT'S YOUR OPINION is just jealous and i thought "uhh what? I don't think it's really about that" and went ahead, bam.
and yes, i wanted to clarify to idk Brad i guess but ended up saying my thing to everyone, not to mention the last few lines were redundancy.
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yeah i probably should've thrown more quotes in. I was saying that i hate the argument "That's you're opinion" and also the argument "you're just jealous." I have had people actually saying i was jealous of christopher paolini because i said he was a shit writer.
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The second one is average cheesy prog metal and pretty far from art.
Oh please. At the very least you're an idiot operating on a very shallow definition of the word art (it only includes the kind of music you listen to right? in which case please dismount your high-horse), and I disagree completely. I may not fancy Tupac or Beethoven (he wrote a few cool songs tho) but I would still call their music works of art.
If you think the song I posted is cheesy well that's your prerogative.
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nah dude it really is very average prog metal.
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no its not.
you haven't been listening to prog metal if you think disillusion is it.
i'm not even saying GOOD BAD but they aren't very AVG PROG METAL considering the singer screams half their shit. this is not a prog metal characteristic as far as I know!
if I remember right they are death prog metal or something which is far from the average prog metal band. I feel really gross talking about any of this.
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screamin's pretty common place in it these days.
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i wouldn't say its a characteristic though. like dream theater or even RUSH is more the AVERAGE prog metal band in my eyes.
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are rush even still around?
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They were at least a few years back. Even got an album out in 2006 I think.
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Metal is pretty lame in the sense that it really isn't "in" anymore. But I still like the shit.
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Metal is good. I like it. You all are stupid for arguing. Listen to good music and be happy (rap and pop sucks though!).
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kaworu is our prog metal expert
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*polishes dream theater collection*
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i think kaworu has a point though btw. it's true that a lot of modern bands which are considered prog metal (mastodon, between the buried and me, textures, meshuggah, gojira, opeth....) have screaming/growling and it's pretty common for lots of avant-garde/prog metal bands. i still associate the word prog metal with bands like dream theater, queensryche, symphonyx, ayreon etc. but it's also true that lots of modern bands which are just kinda different from your usual metal are called prog metal and it's probably most fitting genre for them too. i still disagree with kaworu though, disillusion is far from your average prog metal band and i'm not even a fan or anything. i find the first album pretty good though.
i also think you people need to get over this lyric thing. music can be good without having intelligent lyrics! i almost never pay attention to lyrics in metal and even though overly cheesy lyrics can be distracting (power metals) i can enjoy good music. man sometimes lyrics can make little to no sense but they can still sound cool and vocals can add a lot to the music without you actually trying to make sense out of the lyrics. i dunno maybe it's just impossible for some people to enjoy music as simply music. there's more to music and vocals than lyrics. i'm not afraid to admit i might like good metal with awful lyrics more than some run-of-the-mill sounding indie with clearly better lyrics.
there is good metal. and this whole art argument is dumb as hell.
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rap is the best genre, quote this if you're fucking ownage like me.
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I can't chill to people constantly screamin and thats why I don't like much metal, why u gotta scream....I can hear u just fin
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i think kaworu has a point though btw. it's true that a lot of modern bands which are considered prog metal (mastodon, between the buried and me, textures, meshuggah, gojira, opeth....) have screaming/growling and it's pretty common for lots of avant-garde/prog metal bands. i still associate the word prog metal with bands like dream theater, queensryche, symphonyx, ayreon etc. but it's also true that lots of modern bands which are just kinda different from your usual metal are called prog metal and it's probably most fitting genre for them too. i still disagree with kaworu though, disillusion is far from your average prog metal band and i'm not even a fan or anything. i find the first album pretty good though.
i also think you people need to get over this lyric thing. music can be good without having intelligent lyrics! i almost never pay attention to lyrics in metal and even though overly cheesy lyrics can be distracting (power metals) i can enjoy good music. man sometimes lyrics can make little to no sense but they can still sound cool and vocals can add a lot to the music without you actually trying to make sense out of the lyrics. i dunno maybe it's just impossible for some people to enjoy music as simply music. there's more to music and vocals than lyrics. i'm not afraid to admit i might like good metal with awful lyrics more than some run-of-the-mill sounding indie with clearly better lyrics.
there is good metal. and this whole art argument is dumb as hell.
this is a pretty stupid argument imo I THINK IT SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD YOU DONT HAVE TO FIT ANY MELODY JUST kEEP PLAYING THESE CHORSD
if you don't care for lyrics then use your voice as an instrument but if you're actually formulating words and singing them they should atleast make sense
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I can't chill to people constantly screamin and thats why I don't like much metal, why u gotta scream....I can hear u just fin
it's because they keep putting their spikey clothes inside out :fogetsad:
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i think a lot of the problem is people think when we say BAD LYRICS we mean NOT GOOD. no. there are harmless lyrics. I think anyone who gets worked up over the lyrics in like Umbrella or something is being stupid as hell. oh no! kind of dumb lyrics! arrrrgh.
but then you have:
On a cold dark winter night hidden by the stormy light
A battle rages for the right for what will become
In the valley of the damned a warrior with sword in hand
Travels fast across the land for freedom he rides
this isn't even high school poetry this is some dude in a silk anime shirt scrawling something for his next DnD meeting's opening chant. this is REALLY QUITE AWFUL and it's intentional. like it is not "baby cause in the dark, you cant see shining stars, thats when you need me there, with you i'll always share" which is DUMB but it's not intentionally awful, it's just completely vague and a bit rolleyes. but this dude is seriously making music about fighting dragons.
just some lyric talk w. me and u.
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Metal is good. I like it. You all are stupid for arguing. Listen to good music and be happy (rap and pop sucks though!).
haha get out
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you can't define art btw, this is a stupid argument.
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all right hey here is an opinion on the art thing:
i think no one really cares about defining art but when people say "this lacks artistic merit" we know what they mean. the question is then less IS IT ART and more IS IT EVEN WORTHWHILE?
is this a completely subjective question? ehhhh I dunno. like on the one hand of course it is but on the other would a serious music listener ever attribute artistic merit to Creed? of course not.
the reason I think we talk about the artistic merit of Dragonforce or what not is less to prove it's "not art" or even that it's "not worth anything" but more that we don't understand why someone else doesn't agree. the more music you listen to, the more you tend to understand shit like "hey sperging out over Blink 182 being THE WORST BAND is pretty dumb" or "you know who gives a fuck that rap is about bitches and shit maybe life is a bit like that and if we were really committed to stopping it we'd actually stop actual degradation of women" and so when someone shows up and likes something you really think is pretty immature you want to, or at least OUGHT TO WANT TO engage them on some level that you can understand.
it is not surprising though that more often than not they refuse to and hide behind a shield of ITS MY OPINION
THERE'S NOTHING ITS BASED ON!!!
as the more you engage in musical discussion the more you tend to hear the music you're talking about and the more you tend to be pretty dismissive of it (it's gonna take a pretty solid argument to get me to really appreciate Nickelback in this day and age) and then some dude gets intimidated by you being kind of dismissive and runs away.
is metal art who really cares about this question. when someone says "metal lacks in artistic merit" they want you to say what the merit is, they aren't just making an overarching statement for the hell of it.
that being said shit like SOMETIMES METAL IS GOOD is kind of boring we all know there are exceptions to rules we want to know either 1. why the specific bands being mentioned blow so much or 2. what makes these exceptions good.
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steel's right, yeah of course there's exceptions otherwise it wouldn't be a rule it would just be a fundamental. the idea of rules is that it is possible to break them!
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this is a pretty stupid argument imo I THINK IT SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD YOU DONT HAVE TO FIT ANY MELODY JUST kEEP PLAYING THESE CHORSD
if you don't care for lyrics then use your voice as an instrument but if you're actually formulating words and singing them they should atleast make sense
I think you misunderstood what I said. I didn't mean that the lyrics couldn't make sense, the artist probably had some idea behind them but even so there probably isn't much to it and a lot of listeners probably just find it OKAY RANDOM LYRICS COOl and aren't bothered by it at all. This is the case with so many bands I couldn't even start listing them. And since you brought random lyrics up, I probably wouldn't be bothered by that as long as the lyrics don't distract me. I would prefer REAL WORDS to some random mumble jumble even if the lyrics don't necessary make any sense, it can still work well with the music. And Steel has a point, there are inoffensive lyrics and then there are clearly really awful lyrics but I don't think it's always possible to draw the line between the two since some people can stomach more than others. For example, I probably can tolerate way worse lyrics than Steel can because English isn't my native language and I doubt I pay as much attention to lyrics as he does. I appreciate good lyrics I can relate to or just think HEY THIS IS P.GOOD but lyrics are still almost always the last thing I pay attention to. Sometimes I listen to albums many times before I even start paying that extra attention to lyrics.
also as far as the whole art thing is concerned, i would consider any music which isn't made commercial success in mind art. like you make music for yourself and if others like it then that's cool. but you shouldn't make music to please others or to sell records. that's not art. that's merchandise. as for steel's artistic merit argument, i don't really have anything to say about that. if you weigh artistic merit in lyrics then yes finding artistic merit in metal will be difficult! i listen to metal because it has characteristics other genres don't. sometimes i like to listen to really heavy shit. i like the dynamics, i like the juxtaposition of heaviness and melody, i like some growling and screaming, and i like that mixed in with clean vocals, i like cool heavy riffs, i like lots of things metal has to offer.
i find a lot of metal uninteresting and boring and i don't just mean awful shit like slipknot, i just don't get (or care) a lot of metal which isn't even considered awful but even so i don't think metal is any worse than other genres. it's definitely not my favorite or most listened genre but i like metal and there is metal which isn't awful, i just don't dig it. to each his own. now i'm a boring person........
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I can't chill to people constantly screamin and thats why I don't like much metal, why u gotta scream....I can hear u just fin
'Cos every metal band and every type of metal absolutely has screaming. Congrats!
Sure a lot of metal is cheesy but like others said, there's a crapload of non-cheesy metal and pretty much every type of music can be really cheesy. Anyways, I'll go back to Ahab.
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for the record:
BTBAM is crap
well, live at least
(especially their fans man they are crap too, almost as bad as opeth fans(man those people are gross))
also mama luigi i dont feel like quoting your post but when I say cheesy i mean cheesy not artistic cheese
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I said most and I'm pretty sure earlier I recognized that there were talented metal bands out there that didn't do that
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Alcest
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stoner metal is actually way good and I'm kind of ashamed for mocking bort for them.
not too ashamed because he got way more into it than people usually do but still Boris duh.
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i find it a lil samey a lot of the time tbh, from what hes linked
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99% of metal is incredibly childish and terrible. this is coming from a guy who likes rhcp a lot.
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my roomate plays stoner metal/stoner rock or whatever the fuck all day long. a lot of it is REALLY samey, but there is a lot that's pretty good.
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http://www.myspace.com/alestorm
Scottish pirate metal, I really like Cap'n Morgan's Revenge
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hahaha thats pretty cool.
I wouldn't actively listen to it but its alright.
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I don't think you really know what metal is but thats probably a good thing
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I'm really digging Black Label Society atm
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Seriously look up Apocalyptica they fucking ROCK THE FUCK OUT on fucking cellos how badass is that
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god i hope thats a fake post.
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im afraid its not
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Alcest
Ahab
Amesoeurs
Ava Inferi
Battle of Mice
Blut Aus Nord (especially stuff around Thematic Emanation of Achetypal Multiplicity and their older stuff)
Burning Inside
Deinonychus
Devin Townsend
Drudkh
Edge of Sanity
Empyrium
Esoteric
Kauan
Morgion
Neurosis
Pantheist
Raventale
Reverend Bizarre
The River
Stabat Mater
Tiamat
Warning
Wolves In The Throne Room
Wyrd
Worship
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what we listin
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He must be listin those 99% of metal bands that are shitty so you can avoid them... I can't seem to figure out what else he would be listin.
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Reverend Bizarre
I still don't understand how this band reached #6 on Finnish album charts.
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Mostly because Finland has really shitty metal bands and most people here have really shitty taste in metal.
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Yes. We are shitty people in a shitty country.
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Devin Townsend's pretty cool actually.
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Devin Townsend's pretty cool actually.
He's alright... the only album I ever had remote interest in was The Ocean Machine which had a few really good tracks.
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this topic is slightly annoying btw. first off what are you motherfuckers doing coming in here THERE'S NOG OOD METAL. like I dropped an explanation or two but really I would think at this point GW would not be entirely dismissive of an entire genre because of Iron Maiden or whoever shat in your hat.
another flaw though is the OP which does that thing every metal fan seems to and rants about linkin park and no one cares. the fact he listed a lot of kind of garbagey samey metal bands is annoying too.
but the worst part has to be how people are making big fucking lists! stop making lists. it's okay to name drop one or two bands but holy shit fuck lists.
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i like iron maiden its catchy as fuck. its one of the few metal bands i still enjoy. very catchy riffs
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I still don't understand how this band reached #6 on Finnish album charts.
A lot of people are starting to dig traditional doom metal bands because it brings back that Sabbath feel I guess.
DS, yeah Reverend Bizarre sounds like every other metal band in Finland. Good job! And if anyone actually takes the time to look at those bands, those are all bands don't sound samey or are completely cheese like all of you are complaining. I was just adding to Afura's naming of Alcest. But hey, no lists alright fine. It's one thing to dislike metal, and another thing to completely generalize and say it all sounds the same and it's all completely cheese.
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i haven't even heard reverend bizarre i was just answering to him that if he wonders why it did good in finland it's because we seriously have really awful metal scene (some good bands too but sweden for example has so much more better metal) and finns like awful metal in general. don't reach your own conclusions.
i wasn't dissing your list either i just found it random and i wasn't so sure what you were listing. favorite bands? and there was some good shit there for sure, i love neurosis and devin townsend and edge of sanity are pretty good too. i haven't heard most of the artists in your list.
and i LIKE metal if you haven't figured that out yet, if you read my posts i have been defending the genre.
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im listening to metal right now!! new mastodon album and it's fucking awesome, been listening to it a lot for the past few days. too bad the last song is still missing.
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i haven't even heard reverend bizarre i was just answering to him that if he wonders why it did good in finland it's because we seriously have really awful metal scene (some good bands too but sweden for example has so much more better metal) and finns like awful metal in general. don't reach your own conclusions.
i wasn't dissing your list either i just found it random and i wasn't so sure what you were listing. favorite bands? and there was some good shit there for sure, i love neurosis and devin townsend and edge of sanity are pretty good too. i haven't heard most of the artists in your list.
and i LIKE metal if you haven't figured that out yet, if you read my posts i have been defending the genre.
Finland has had quite a few good bands it's just it's not in the "popular" types of metal. Hell you guys had Thergothon and Skepticism which were pioneers in their time. Btw, I know you like metal but at the same time, it seems like you're not defending it that much but I did skip a few posts in the topic. Metal right now, as in what's popular is pretty dead imo anyways.
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I <3 metal a lot, although my tastes have expanded far beyond it in recent years. I mostly enjoy stuff from the sludge/doom/stoner genres as well as a lot of the more extreme genres of metal. For those of you that don't enjoy harsh vocals, check out traditional doom stuff or gothic influenced bands like The Gathering, Type O Negative, and Tiamat.
Metal CD's that you all should check out...
Anathema-Eternity
Down-Nola
Electric Wizard-Come My Fanatics
Forest Stream-Tears of Mortal Solitude
The Gathering-Mandylion
Godflesh-Streetcleaner, Selfless
Isis-Mosquito Conrol EP, Panopticon
Jesu-Jesu, Lifeline EP
Katatonia-Discouraged Ones
Kylesa-To Walk the Middle Course
Nokturnal Mortum-Lunar Poetry
Pelican-Australasia
Pig Destroyer-Prowler in the Yard
Trouble-The Skull
Tusk-Tree of No Return
Type O Negative-October Rust
Xasthur-The Funeral of Being
YOB-The Illusion of Motion
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<3 metal here's list
Cool bro but we just got done saying lists are kind of lame! You aren't even pointing out what you like in those albums... making your post just another dumb list.
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Hey guys here's some metal bands I like (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_bands), now get out of my face.
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im listening to metal right now!! new mastodon album and it's fucking awesome, been listening to it a lot for the past few days. too bad the last song is still missing.
HOLY CRAP I AGREE ON EVERY LEVEL. Despite the missing last track, Mastodon's Crack the Skye is amazing and in my opinion is waaay better than Blood Mountain. Anyone who likes metal/sludge should get it.
Also, Ocelot, you should check out X-Japan as they're quite similar to Maiden in many ways, just with a veeeery Japanese singer who attempts to sing in English, orcesteral elements and epic piano solos. Art of Life is a good album (although it is just one 30 minute long track), you should check it out.
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hey x japan they're just like iron maiden except not actually very much at all
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hey x japan they're just like iron maiden except not actually very much at all
Same galloping-style guitar rhythms, very similar vocal style (voice is different though) and some really solid guitar solos. That is everything a Maiden fan likes as well.
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Same galloping-style guitar rhythms
nope
very similar vocal style
not really
some really solid guitar solos
shit load of guitar-driven music
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I can see some similarities between x japan and iron maiden but jeez they're not a frikkin clone.
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Ooo ooo ...
I love metal.
Everything from Europe is gold; Children of Bodom, Dimmu Borgir, Gorgoroth, Mayhem, yatta yatta ...
And from America: Lamb of God, Shadows Fall, Obituary and ... well, that's it.
Oh crap, and Agalloch. I LOVE Agalloch.
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Ooo ooo ...
I love metal.
Everything from Europe is gold; Children of Bodom, Dimmu Borgir, Gorgoroth, Mayhem, yatta yatta ...
And from America: Lamb of God, Shadows Fall, Obituary and ... well, that's it.
Oh crap, and Agalloch. I LOVE Agalloch.
errybody do the timewarp
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Timewarp? That's all fresh today.
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I can see some similarities between x japan and iron maiden but jeez they're not a frikkin clone.
Hence: "quite similar to Maiden in many ways".
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i've been listening to the only harvey milk album i have heard, their recent "life... the best game in town" and it's really great. you should check it out. it's like sludge/doom metal or something but a lot more fun and weird and interesting.
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I <3 metal a lot, although my tastes have expanded far beyond it in recent years. I mostly enjoy stuff from the sludge/doom/stoner genres as well as a lot of the more extreme genres of metal. For those of you that don't enjoy harsh vocals, check out traditional doom stuff or gothic influenced bands like The Gathering, Type O Negative, and Tiamat.
Metal CD's that you all should check out...
Anathema-Eternity
Down-Nola
Electric Wizard-Come My Fanatics
Forest Stream-Tears of Mortal Solitude
The Gathering-Mandylion
Godflesh-Streetcleaner, Selfless
Isis-Mosquito Conrol EP, Panopticon
Jesu-Jesu, Lifeline EP
Katatonia-Discouraged Ones
Kylesa-To Walk the Middle Course
Nokturnal Mortum-Lunar Poetry
Pelican-Australasia
Pig Destroyer-Prowler in the Yard
Trouble-The Skull
Tusk-Tree of No Return
Type O Negative-October Rust
Xasthur-The Funeral of Being
YOB-The Illusion of Motion
Holy crap, another Forest Stream and Trouble fan. That's pretty rare among metalheads hehehe. I must say, I prefer Psalm 9 to The Skull. Those Electric Wizard, Pelican, Anathema, Katatonia and Type O albums are all extremely solid. Xasthur on the other hand I find really meh, I've found many bands that I personally prefer much more than Xasthur (Anti, Coldworld, Drudkh, Monarque and many others)
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i've been listening to the only harvey milk album i have heard, their recent "life... the best game in town" and it's really great. you should check it out. it's like sludge/doom metal or something but a lot more fun and weird and interesting.
yeah SB told me about them a while back, although I've only got Courtesy and Good Will. bort do you also like oxbow.
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Man I dont quite get what is so enjoyable about oxbow
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I enjoy sludge metal and all variations of progressive metal. Occasionally I'll listen to some weird black metal.
And now the namedropping. Raise your hand if you know of / enjoy these.
Callisto - Noir (atmospheric sludge metal)
Njiqahdda - Nji. Njiijn. Njiiijn. (psychedelic black metal)
Persefone - Core (progressive death metal)
Giant Squid - Monster in the Creek EP (progressive sludge metal)
Year of No Light - Nord (sludge metal)
Continuo Renacer - Continuo Renacer (instrumental jazzy death metal)
Subterranean Masquerade - Suspended Animation Dreams (progressive metal)
maudlin of the Well - Bath (progressive metal)
Augury - Concealed (progressive death metal)
Sculptured - The Spear of the Lily Is Aureoled (progressive metal)
Empyrean Sky - The Snow White Rose of Paradise (progressive death metal)
Oblique Rain - Isohyet (progressive metal)
And whoever mentioned Symphony X earlier in this topic: I can't stand them. Too much power metal and cheese in them.
Wasn't this the point of this topic? "Yeah I like metal too." Makes for a pretty boring topic.
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thanks for bumping this pretty boring topic.
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Guys this is my Last FM results. I listen to lots of different types of metal, from pagan to melodic death, viking to prog.. There's lots of different metals around, enough for everyone's taste. I think I'm pretty open minded with musi :)
(http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/26992/last.png)
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Gimme that depressive black slice o pie
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what is the difference between raw black metal and finnish
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you wouldn't understand it.... phillistine
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Please don't turn this into another phillistine versus israel debate afura..
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I enjoy sludge metal and all variations of progressive metal. Occasionally I'll listen to some weird black metal.
And now the namedropping. Raise your hand if you know of / enjoy these.
Callisto - Noir (atmospheric sludge metal)
Njiqahdda - Nji. Njiijn. Njiiijn. (psychedelic black metal)
Persefone - Core (progressive death metal)
Giant Squid - Monster in the Creek EP (progressive sludge metal)
Year of No Light - Nord (sludge metal)
Continuo Renacer - Continuo Renacer (instrumental jazzy death metal)
Subterranean Masquerade - Suspended Animation Dreams (progressive metal)
maudlin of the Well - Bath (progressive metal)
Augury - Concealed (progressive death metal)
Sculptured - The Spear of the Lily Is Aureoled (progressive metal)
Empyrean Sky - The Snow White Rose of Paradise (progressive death metal)
Oblique Rain - Isohyet (progressive metal)
And whoever mentioned Symphony X earlier in this topic: I can't stand them. Too much power metal and cheese in them.
Wasn't this the point of this topic? "Yeah I like metal too." Makes for a pretty boring topic.
Callisto's Noir is an excellent album that I listen to from time to time. Giant Squid never really impressed me same for Continuo Renacer (although they're great frickin' musicians, it just doesn't grab me). Subterranean Masquerade's EP was actually a huge disappointment to me. I was expecting something frickin' awesome and it was a huge letdown. Augury's guitar player/singer is a physics teacher in a local high school. I hung out with him a year and a half ago. He's a pretty cool guy. He was outside the venue for the Trois-Riviere Metalfest fixing his car and we were helping him and just talking. His music is pretty intense but I'm almost certain the debut for Nuclear Blast is going to be complete crap.
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^
What Giant Squid did you hear that you didn't like? Metridium Fields? I'll admit that it's a kinda wishy-washy album, but the last track just speaks to me in ways I never thought possible.
I don't really know what to think of The Ichthyologist yet, but Monster in the Creek is so energetic and 'full', it completely overshadows their other releases if you ask me. A shame how limited its release was.
I've also just heard Ne Obliviscaris for the first time. Jawdropping awesome.
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I'm checking out all those bands you posted, I haven't listened to any good metal in a long time so my hopes aren't high but I'm gunna give it a try!
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I've been getting into NWOBHM for quite a long time. It has like 200+ bands that came out from that era in the UK from 1979-1984. Alot of these bands had a punk-meets-metal flavor that really helped influence trash/death/black metal bands in the 80's. It sucks that only a few made it far. These bands truly had the potential but it was the mainstream acts that kept them from becoming successful.
My favorite bands are Angel Witch, Cloven Hoof, Iron Maiden (Self-titled & Killers albums only), Def Leppard (On Through The Night & High 'n' Dry albums only), Tygers of Pan Tang, Diamond Head, Venom, Grim Reaper, Atomkraft, Blitzkrieg, Holocaust, Legend, Persian Risk, Saxon, Satan, Demon, Witchfynde, Witchfinder General, Pagan Altar, Tredegar, A II Z, Sweet Savage, etc. and the list goes on my faves.
PS: Anyone thinking that the songs "Am I Evil" or "The Prince" were originally recorded by Metallica, then they're posers who don't know their own "favorite" band too well. Those songs were beautifully written by the members of Diamond Head, and seeing as Metallica grew up loving these guys and citing them as influences (not like every Metallica fan cares, amirite?), they turned to cover and screw up those songs.
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Well since those songs appear on a 'cover album' I think its kinda obvious.
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yeah I don't know why you posted that last bit it is hardly insider information! fuck, diamond head are from up my way or at least thereabouts!
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Angel Witch, Cloven Hoof, Iron Maiden (Self-titled & Killers albums only), Def Leppard (On Through The Night & High 'n' Dry albums only), Tygers of Pan Tang, Diamond Head, Venom, Grim Reaper, Atomkraft, Blitzkrieg, Holocaust, Legend, Persian Risk, Saxon, Satan, Demon, Witchfynde, Witchfinder General, Pagan Altar, Tredegar, A II Z, Sweet Savage
god metal bands have the worst names
ANGEL WITCH, WITCHFYNDE, TYGERS OF PAN TANG, they all look like the screennames of twilight fans
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Has anyone heard of Degradead (http://www.myspace.com/degradead)? They play really cool melodeath and they're a great live act (saw them live a couple of weeks back in Stockholm).
Best chorus ever imo.
edit: yeah, their name's kinda lame
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this is the worst genre
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god metal bands have the worst names
ANGEL WITCH, WITCHFYNDE, TYGERS OF PAN TANG, they all look like the screennames of twilight fans
I feel I must apologise on behalf of my country for NWOBHM :(
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metal blows!! fuck metal!!
also ds how the hell can you even warn???
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what can i say.. undercover modd...
anyway FUCK METAL
callisto does rock btw has anyone heard their new album? considerably less metal but i dig it, lots of fans dont tho. but fuck em too.
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new isis leaked btw
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new isis leaked btw
hot dog
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metal sucks! metal sucks!
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Is the new Isis any good DS?
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It's fucking awesome.
And man listening to ISIS reminded me of *shels. They were supposed to release an album in early 2008 or something WHERE THE FUCK IS IT.
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Have you heard their ep? I only listened to their album but I saw they have like a seven track ep or something
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the new amoeseurs leaked like two weeks ago btw, I didn't listen but heard it was good.
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ooh nice, will check that out soonish
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yeah new ISIS is tight as hell its fantastic
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in terms of tightness , how tight exactly
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I don't get what's so good about Amesoeurs but I suppose I'll give their album a try. I have their self titled ep and I thought it's decent but nothing special.
Also Afura dunno what to say, new ISIS is clearly better than In the Absence of Truth. I still like new Mastodon more tho.
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Yeah, the new ISIS is pretty sweet. Much better than In the Absence of Truth, which was the album that got me into them in the first place, though I now prefer their older material.
Regarding Callisto's new album Providence, I preordered it and am satisfied with it. The clean vocals aren't bad, but sometimes they're just too abundant. There are instances where the music would be stronger on its own, but the vocals drags it down. Most notably on Covenant Colors, when they start with the distortion just before the harsh vocals kick in. That's a big difference from Noir, too much emphasis is placed on the vocals now.
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I personally feel that ISIS have managed to get better with every album that they've released so far, and Wavering Radiant is pretty much this same pattern continued. I really like the whole sound of the album, and the production of the album has been much improved over the really muddy and quiet ITAOT.
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in terms of tightness , how tight exactly
5 Y/O pussy
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I really love Opeth, they're probably the only band I can listen to that has the death growl/cookie monster vocals or whatever without snapping my headphones in two. Can't really reccomend any other stuff though, Opeth are probably the only band i listen to who would be classed as metal.
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http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/2009/03/18/interview-troy-sanders-of-mastodon/
Here's a cool interview on Mastodon and it explains why Crack the Skye is so much more melodic and mellow compared to their other stuff. Based on this, I think it's a pretty safe bet to say they might be releasing a new album next year already and that's cool although I'd love to hear more stuff like Crack the Skye since I think it's their best album and it's slowly becoming one of my favorite metal albums, actually. It's just fantastic. But if they can do more albums like Leviathan I'm not complaining.
also im listening to that amesoeurs ep again and i like it a lot more than i remembered!
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the new amoeseurs leaked like two weeks ago btw, I didn't listen but heard it was good.
holy shit, just checked out the EP... WOW. I loved it, feels so different... No words other than wow.
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holy shit, just checked out the EP... WOW. I loved it, feels so different... No words other than wow.
same here, fucking A. Wow this topic got popular XD
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The new Isis isn't really that cool guys.
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Hey, I can't find these amoeseurs guys. Can someone myspace link me? Or youtube or something?
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Metals cool, I just can't stand constant "FUCK YOOOUUUU, SHIT, DIE, KILL, MAIM, BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" lyrics.
I found this one band called Iced Earth, I got hooked after listening to their Phantom of the Opera.
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did you know that they actually wrote the original but some bastard named Andy stole it and sold it to broadway?
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speaking of phantom of the opera, have you noticed that there's quite a lot of metal songs about it???
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Yeah I noticed that too, but then again lots of metal bands make songs about old plays all the time, Phantom of the Opera is just one of the more well known ones.
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phantom of the opera is a novel :rolleyes:
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:welp:
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and a musical...
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and a song... it spreads like a disease...
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the new amoeseurs leaked like two weeks ago btw, I didn't listen but heard it was good.
I listened to it maybe 4 times now... The first time I was rather disappointed considering that their EP is my favorite EP of all time. By the second play through the album had grown on me. The album is very very solid but I was expecting much more female led songs and such. Also, I'm disappointed that Audrey doesn't scream more. The album is still really really really solid and I'm curious to see how most people are going to like it. I'll probably buy the CD when it comes out but I doubt I'll by the LP.
Also... you guys should check out Warning's Watching From A Distance. It's crushingly depressing traditional doom metal. Their first album was meh but this one is so good. Probably in my top 5 metal albums of all time.
Also, did any of you hear the new Wolves In The Throne Room yet? I only heard the new 12" and I loved it. I might buy it eventually.
In other news, Devin Towsend will release a 4 album series with different line-ups. It sounds rather exciting and the guy has made some pretty solid music in the past.
VARG IS GETTING OUT OF JAIL. So now all Burzum fanboys can rejoice
Other metal albums you guys should check out:
Shape of Despair - Angels of Distress: very beautiful funeral doom that's easily accessible. It's not like the extremely esoteric bands that only 20 people in the whole world like.
Somnium Mortuum - Eternal Sleep: this is a slow symphonic / ambient metal album but it's really good. You guys might have trouble finding it though. It's mostly instrumental but I loved the project. Too bad there's only one album.
Svafnir - The Heathen Chapters: This is pagan "metal" even though it's much loser to folk. I normally despise everything that is branded as "pagan" or viking since most bands are just riding the bandwagon. I mean come on... a mexican viking metal band? The album is just full of really beautiful acoustic songs.
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Varg is already out btw
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Varg is already out btw
I thought he was coming out in like a month. A lot of people are bitching about him being released and then there's all the people that want to go burn down more churches... Ah black metal, a genre filled with sheep even though it represents opposition.
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Also, did any of you hear the new Wolves In The Throne Room yet? I only heard the new 12" and I loved it. I might buy it eventually.
Yeah, that 12" is rad. Listening to it made me think they were really going to progress nicely from Two Hunters but apparently not! Maybe I haven't given Black Cascade (the new album) enough spins yet but so far it sounds more like an attempt to shed the "hipster metal" tag they've gotten lately and return to more BM roots. It's a pity, I was really digging the sound they had going with the 12 inch and Two Hunters...
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Yeah, that 12" is rad. Listening to it made me think they were really going to progress nicely from Two Hunters but apparently not! Maybe I haven't given Black Cascade (the new album) enough spins yet but so far it sounds more like an attempt to shed the "hipster metal" tag they've gotten lately and return to more BM roots. It's a pity, I was really digging the sound they had going with the 12 inch and Two Hunters...
I'll have to acquire the new album, I'm hoping my radio station receives a copy soon. WITTR is the only other BM band except Alcest (Tristesse EP era, after that it's not BM) that I found were able to make BM that's actually beautiful. I'm a big fan of the genre but most bands are extremely similar and quite frankly boring. I thought that WITTR had finally found something that truly made them unique and great. But who knows, maybe their next release will be closer to the Malevolent Grain sound.
Can someone please recommend me some good power metal that has feeling in it and that isn't too frickin' wanky for no reason. I like some Edguy, Sonata Arctica and Rhapsody would be awesome if they were less wanky/cheesy.
I just bought the following:
WITTR - Two Hunters DLP
Sonata Arctica - Uni DLP
Paradise Lost - In Requiem DLP
Skepticism - Farmakon
Shape of Despair - Shape of Despair
Warning - Watching From A Distance
Devin Towsend Band - Synchestra
The Novembers Doom book
And it came to a total of about 105$CAN which is really good. I had a 30$ rebate plus they were having a discount of 12% until April 2nd. I'll probably buy the Malevolent Grain 12" next time and probably Edguy's Hellfire Club (man that album makes me laugh and feel good).
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Can someone please recommend me some good power metal that has feeling in it and that isn't too frickin' wanky for no reason. I like some Edguy, Sonata Arctica and Rhapsody would be awesome if they were less wanky/cheesy.
Hm, well, I'm not really too knowledgeable on music, but I tend to listen to a lot of power metal / folk metal... the genres seem to collide quite a bit and it's kind of confusing... I'll just give you some of my favourites anyway. I really like Ensiferum and Turisas, as well as some Korpiklaani and Finntroll... Ensiferum are generally more straight up rock, but definitely more powery than Amon Amarth or something, whereas the others have actually got violinists and accordion players and things. If you haven't already, check them out.
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Hm, well, I'm not really too knowledgeable on music, but I tend to listen to a lot of power metal / folk metal... the genres seem to collide quite a bit and it's kind of confusing... I'll just give you some of my favourites anyway. I really like Ensiferum and Turisas, as well as some Korpiklaani and Finntroll... Ensiferum are generally more straight up rock, but definitely more powery than Amon Amarth or something, whereas the others have actually got violinists and accordion players and things. If you haven't already, check them out.
Good job at recommending the most obscure bands of all time.
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thats a fakepost right. because you didn't even ask the dude for obscure/not obscure.
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thats a fakepost right. because you didn't even ask the dude for obscure/not obscure.
Yeah it is a fake post, it's not about if I asked for obscure or non obscure bands it's just that everyone knows those bands and I mean everyone. Secondly, none of them are even power metal, they're all folk. Thirdly, they're pretty much all terrible except a few songs by Finntroll and Korpiklaani.
Also, Neige is currently composing a new Alcest album. He should be done composing in 2-3 months so who knows when we'll have a new album. He did say that he's re-recording his songs from the Le Secret EP
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Ahh, alright. Sorry. I stick by the 'not too knowledgeable on music', then! Don't mind me. :sweat:
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The new Mastodon album is unbelievable!
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i listened to mithotyn for the first time in a couple years... and i still like em, but i couldn't listen to more than 2 songs without getting bored.
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the fact that people can still seriously recommend Ensfirem and Finntroll make me lol so bad. are you guys 12 or do you just have the most laughable taste in music ever
i mean i listen to a band that wears socks on their dick but goddamn
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/www.nordische-musik.de/artikel/fotos/finntroll01.jpeg)
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i just googled mithotyn thinking "phew, at least mithotyn wasn't like that" but yep, there they are on the front page of google in chainmail armor. well, guess i'm never listening to them again.
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the video for Trollhammaren by Finntroll is the best thing ever
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they may be stupid, but at least they ain't wearing sneans
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZsYeIVzjfw
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the fact that people can still seriously recommend Ensfirem and Finntroll make me lol so bad. are you guys 12 or do you just have the most laughable taste in music ever
i mean i listen to a band that wears socks on their dick but goddamn
maybe their sense of the absurd is just less finely tuned than yours
and the internet also makes it more difficult to make value judgments because hey maybe they are 12 man. no need to be hatin
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korpiklaani rules because its anti-metal. dada metal.
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maybe their sense of the absurd is just less finely tuned than yours
and the internet also makes it more difficult to make value judgments because hey maybe they are 12 man. no need to be hatin
would you shut up they're wearing chainmail
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ask yourself ryan.. ask yourself
if john frusciante started to wear chainmail, would that make his music any worse?
A) yes it would
B) no it would not
C) it couldn't get any worse
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no but it would make me embarrassed to listen to him. finntroll wearing chainmail isn't why their music is terrible though, it's just the icing on the cake.
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man speaking of finntroll
some guy in my grad seminar last quarter started telling everyone about finntroll one day and I was just shocked and awed that someone his age would still be really into that stuff. he was a pretty normal dude too, maybe he just had a really weird sense of humor but yeahhh...
and then the professor (an asian american who speaks a shitload of central asian languages) turned out to actually be really really into scandinavian music, especially stuff from iceland like sigur ros, mum and bjork and shit so it was a really baked and weird discussion lol
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Finntroll isn't that bad, I admit they're pretty terrible but at the same time their music is rather really catchy which makes a lot of people like them. That plus the folk metal trend = Finntroll wins. I went to see them live for free and they were pretty decent. Nothing great but they weren't terrible like Samael or something of the kind.
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nope theyre gay as hell sorry
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the guy from mithotyn just sent me an unreleased mithotyn track. it's a remake of a song from a promo tape they did and it's pretty good. i guess he's also the guy from falconer too, but i didn't tell him i think falconer is a terrible band.
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you'd be surprised how many people listen to metal just for shits and giggles I know i'd go to a finntroll concert if it was free or dirt cheap for shits and giggles
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the guy from mithotyn just sent me an unreleased mithotyn track. it's a remake of a song from a promo tape they did and it's pretty good. i guess he's also the guy from falconer too, but i didn't tell him i think falconer is a terrible band.
I agree... Falconer is a TERRIBLE band.
Also, why is there so much love for Wintersun? I just gave their album a listen and I found it really frickin' boring and nothing really spectacular about it