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Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: FrostyPink on March 09, 2009, 11:38:59 pm
Let me first say I really hate the idea of making a topic asking for suggestions on what to watch, but I feel I have to because the rest of the internet is fucking dumb.

Basically, I watched Lilja 4-Ever the other day and I realised how much I like these bleak and emotional dramas... there's something about everything going shitty for everyone that I love. I like being a big emo when I watch films, being reduced to tears.
Other films that I like that are similar to this would be: 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly and (I guess) Requiem for a Dream.

So, if you can tell me the most depressing film you've watched (DON'T MAKING A FUCKING LIST) and WHY it is depressing, I'd love you forever.
Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: Beasley on March 10, 2009, 12:14:48 am
hate to be the guy to throw this out but schindler's list is seriously one of no wait THE saddest movie ive ever seen



save one life.................... save the world....

if you have not seen it it's kinda necessary cinema anyway so
Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: Beasley on March 10, 2009, 12:15:46 am
oh and it is sad because lots of innocent people get killed by shouting nazis
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Post by: Parker on March 10, 2009, 12:35:48 am
Hmm. The Savages was extremely depressing, mostly because it was so REAL. Actually, The Squid And The Whale is from the same director and is also very very depressing, although I don't think it's as good as The Savages.

Go watch The Savages, it's wonderful.
Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: ase on March 10, 2009, 12:41:11 am
just watch an adam sandler movie or something
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Post by: ase on March 10, 2009, 12:43:28 am
their existence is depressing
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 10, 2009, 12:49:39 am
the av club just wrote a whole article about this. I totally recommend the Apu Trilogy and do not recommend Dogville (youknow what happend int he great depression? towns of poor people raped a slightly well off looking runaway. oh wait thats not what happened ever at all, here is a story no one can relate to with a lot of gimmicky shit.
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Post by: pburn on March 10, 2009, 12:58:10 am
These kinds of movies are basically the epitome of cinema for me. I love this emo shit, I want to make this emo shit. I've seen the three you've listed and fucking loved them.

I am going to write a list of shit I can remember, I'm sorry.

Babel
Last Life of the Universe
Everything is Illuminated
Come and See
Tsotsi
Atonement
Into the Wild
In the Mood for Love + 2046
The Kite Runner
Paranoid Park
Memories of Murder
Lust, Caution
The Last Emperor
Amadeus
The Wrestler *highly recommend*
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
Brokeback Mountain
The Elephant Man
The Fountain
There Will be Blood
The 400 Blows *highly recommend*
Elephant
Au Revoir Les Enfants

Shit that I forget
La Haine
Motorcycle Diaries
This is England
The Return
Eastern Promises
Cashback
Gone Baby Gone
Blame It on Fidel
Once
If... + O' Lucky Man
JCVD
Maria Full of Grace
Bang Bang You're Dead
Doubt
Kikujiro
Heavenly Creatures

Call me stupid, but these are pretty much the films that have moved me. They have mostly made me feel emo, but I don't know if it's categorize them as being depressing.
Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: Roman on March 10, 2009, 01:16:01 am
mulholland drive

roman i am beginning to think that you do not actually watch any other movies
Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on March 10, 2009, 01:17:08 am
TRAINSPOTTING

DRUG ADDICTION
FRIENDSHIPS
ETC

Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: Farren on March 10, 2009, 01:46:18 am
no that letters to Zachary movie. damn that movie is so depressing, and "the bridge". Both of those are docs.
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Post by: headphonics on March 10, 2009, 01:52:09 am
yea watch dear zachary.  it's 10x more depressing for actually happening.  the holocaust heh.....sure its sad but Its Only a Story
Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: pburn on March 10, 2009, 01:54:02 am
Dear Zachary is okay, it kinda suffers from some pacing issues, but it's worth the watch.

Gotta watch The Bridge, sounds very interesting.
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Post by: headphonics on March 10, 2009, 02:47:29 am
fuck pacing, dead babbys..................also weeping yokels.  honestly tho i would not really consider traditional criticisms of it valid as the guy even says in the video he is making it for himself/the kid when he grows up.  if it was shot as a commercial documentary i think i'd agree but when it's just some guy doing it for himself it's not really fair to be like HMMMM....PACING COULD BE BETTER

also atonement wasnt that sad.  ohhh noooo she made a childishly naive mistake and peoples' lives were ruined as a result.....  they had a really nice estate tho.  i wish i was landed gentry
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Post by: pburn on March 10, 2009, 02:51:19 am
headphonics, that is a valid point. I agree.

Also my list sucks, I know.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 10, 2009, 02:52:46 am
way to spoil the movie...
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Post by: Ragnar on March 10, 2009, 03:52:12 am
Million Dollar Baby
Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: pburn on March 10, 2009, 03:59:34 am
Million Dollar Baby
If you want something like The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, Darren Aronofsky films, or 4 Months 3 Weeks and 2 Days, I would not recommend this or any other Clint Eastwood films.
Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: Ragnar on March 10, 2009, 04:17:12 am
I was really just naming what came to mind when I thought of really depressing movie

I haven't even seen any of those ones he mentioned
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on March 10, 2009, 04:20:43 am
electroma and koyaanisqatsi invoked sadness for me!
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 10, 2009, 04:56:41 am
yo BY THE FUCKIN WAY.

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So, if you can tell me the most depressing film you've watched (DON'T MAKING A FUCKING LIST) and WHY it is depressing

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I am going to write a list of shit I can remember, I'm sorry.

hey your topic? fuck it im doin my own thing!

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mulholland drive
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no that letters to Zachary movie. damn that movie is so depressing, and "the bridge". Both of those are docs.
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Million Dollar Baby
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electroma and koyaanisqatsi invoked sadness for me!

come on guys. I know I said WATCH APU TRILOGY but I was also saying it in the context of an entire article I told him to read (which is a list but with descriptions of why it's depressing so). this is pretty poor all around.

seriously are we just going to use this forum for showing off our namedrops even when the topic specifically says DETAILS PLEASE?
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Post by: Roman on March 10, 2009, 04:59:16 am
to be honest I just wanted to make fun of myself with that post. 
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Post by: Mongoloid on March 10, 2009, 04:59:39 am
I was going to say both "The Squid and the Whale" and "The Wrestler," but both of them have already been said, so I am just making this post to give myself a little credibility.


edit: whoa didn't even read steels post yet.

does it really matter if they are lists or not? I know he specifically asked for there not to be, but if anything sounds appealing in the least he can look up what he wants on imdb or wiki.
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Post by: Farren on March 10, 2009, 05:03:33 am
that dear zachary movie has its own topic in am.

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Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father is a documentary about the case of Shirley Jane Turner. It was made by Kurt Kuenne, a friend of the child's murdered father, released by Oscilloscope Pictures, and said to be a tour-de-force of editing

The Bridge

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The Bridge focuses on the large number of suicides that occur each year at the Golden Gate Bridge, capturing footage of the suicides and interviewing family members. Also interviewed are people who have attempted suicide at the bridge, witnesses of the suicides, and a jump survivor.

The movie was shot with multiple cameras pointed at a notorious suicide spot on the bridge during 2004. It captured 19 people as they took their final plunge, and then offers interviews with grieving families
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Post by: Roman on March 10, 2009, 05:04:56 am
Also Mulholland Drive is depressing because it's about unrequited love and being a failure.  It's not just that it's about unrequited love and failure, though; it's the way the film is structured that really makes it pretty powerful.  This is a very poor description of the movie but I'm not going to go further into it than that!!!  Watch it bitch.

Give me a minute to think of other good depressing movies.  Depressing movies are da best

note: this post is titled "why mulholland drive is sad by roman franklin, age 11"
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on March 10, 2009, 07:22:27 am
yo BY THE FUCKIN WAY.

hey your topic? fuck it im doin my own thing!

come on guys. I know I said WATCH APU TRILOGY but I was also saying it in the context of an entire article I told him to read (which is a list but with descriptions of why it's depressing so). this is pretty poor all around.

seriously are we just going to use this forum for showing off our namedrops even when the topic specifically says DETAILS PLEASE?

in the context of the op you know these movies should have everything going shitty for everyone, that's what makes it sad. i think it would be a poor idea to say SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE: IT'S SAD BECAUSE HE LOSES THE GAME AND GETS KILLED (don't worry it's not a real spoiler, he wins the money. his brother dies though) and saying some dudes wrote an article on it is right up there with assuming a wikipedia search if he's interested

electroma and koyaanisqatsi are both sad almost impressionistically, neither have dialogue, only music.

electroma culminates in a powerful suicide scene, the path to which is depressing.
koyaanisqatsi explores the wonder of human progress and concludes with its futility
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Post by: tuxedo marx on March 10, 2009, 08:36:34 am
making mental note not to watch any of these films because i will be reduced to a blubbering babby for subsequent days
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Post by: Beasley on March 10, 2009, 09:08:54 am
man i really need to see the wrestler :(
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Post by: OddButInteresting on March 10, 2009, 10:44:20 am
Requiem for a Dream.

If I were to ever feel that I'm in too buoyant a mood, this would be the first DVD in the tray.

The last film I saw that left me with a sour taste in my mouth was Revolutionary Road. One of its final scenes actually left me feeling rather nauseous, all thanks to Mendes' unflinching direction. And the music by Thomas Newman (I almost wrote "Newton Howard" then, confusing him with another composer) is greatly evocative. I doubt it's still in cinemas, but I recommend it highly.

electroma and koyaanisqatsi invoked sadness for me!

Is this actually any good? I'm a big fan of Daft Punk and have been intending to check it out for a while.

By the way: Daft Punk were recently announced as the composers of the official Tron 2 (or TR2N) soundtrack. Can't bode better than that, eh?
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Post by: RedScythes on March 10, 2009, 12:10:18 pm
Ugh holocaust/WWII movies just make me sick physically. I've watched way too many. :(

That said, Life is Beautiful is really depressing. It's a holocaust movie about a Jewish man who is trying to protect his son from the horrors of concentration camp by telling him its just a game and the grand prize is a tank. Its so depressing because the situation is so helpless yet the man (Guido) who is very cheery and comical tries so hard to protect his son. Its hard to imagine the kind of strength it must take to put up that kind of front. And all the things leading up to the camp parts of the movie make it much more heart-wrenching. Theres this one scene at a dinner where someone mentions the kind of math their kid in grade school does and it was something along the lines of "It costs X amount of money to take care of each disabled/mentally ill person. If there are Y disabled people, and they are all killed, how much money will be saved?" And you think they are talking about how horrible the situation in the problem is but they are more appalled at the difficulty of the math.
Title: Looking for depressing films...
Post by: Rowain on March 10, 2009, 12:15:13 pm
Why do you hate topics asking for suggestions? What a strange thing to hate.
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Post by: jamie on March 10, 2009, 12:35:30 pm
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If I were to ever feel that I'm in too buoyant a mood, this would be the first DVD in the tray.

The last film I saw that left me with a sour taste in my mouth was Revolutionary Road. One of its final scenes actually left me feeling rather nauseous, all thanks to Mendes' unflinching direction. And the music by Thomas Newman (I almost wrote "Newton Howard" then, confusing him with another composer) is greatly evocative. I doubt it's still in cinemas, but I recommend it highly.

how's your valve ignatius?


i know ton(nes) of bleak sad day drama shit like this! there's plenty to go around. sadly alot of it is pure shit. you don't want lists so i'll just give you a couple that i think are all right:

half-nelson:
everyone likes half-nelson. it does the shaky cam, grainy film stuff and the 'ron stark emotional realism' that we all like so much. long scenes without music, ugly close ups. it's about a crack addicted school teacher and his accidental friendship with one of his students. it's american.

nobody knows:
this is a film about 4 abandoned kids in tokyo who need to try and survive with very little money and no-one to help em out. it's got a lot of pretty scenes with music and stuff, so it's not all bleak it's kind of tragic beauty type stuff but it turns out pretty sad and depressing yeah. i like it i like it quite a bunch.

i actually can't remember any ones that are GOOD you know. there's the brown bunny which is pretty much the bleak sad drama thing taken to the absolute extreme but that film is just one long ejaculation into your senses by vincent gallo so i wouldn't recommend it as a good film. or sherrybaby but i can't remember if i liked that i just remember it was emotionally volatile.

oh yeah leaving las vegas is a good sad film. it's about an alkie who goes to las vegas to drink himself to death. he meets a prostitute there and they become best buds who have sex and get drunk. but then it all gets sad. it's kind of an ornate film, there's a lot of jazz music and then kind of operatic music. it's not particularly sad to me, but i know alot of people find it kind of devastating (my mom sure does!).

also time for hilarious sarcasm:

nick and norahs infinite playlist:
make me sad thast is a film......what a shit!!!!
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Post by: Lyndon on March 10, 2009, 01:57:10 pm
Margot at the wedding is a pretty depressing movie in a way. My idea of depressing movies aren't movies where terrible shit happens to someone, but movies where someones life didn't turn out the way they wanted and they feel empty and pointless. I dunno, I think its becuase peole tend to feel most alive when either somethign amazing or something really terrible is happening in their life. When they're in some kind of rut, which they cant get out, it makes me really depressed. It's got that waste of life sort of feel to it... And whilst Margot at the wedding is technically a comedy, it leaves a sour taste in your mouth. I'm not sure I am really explaining myself fully, but yeah those sort of films are most depressing to me.

Here are a few other movies that adhere to this (sorry, list)

The Life Aquatic
Ghost World
Lost in Translation
Closer (actually this is probably the most depressing of all I think)
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on March 10, 2009, 02:24:50 pm
Beautiful Mind is kind of depressing. I haven't watched it in a while though. The Butterfly Effect is also kind of depressing if you think about it

Quote from: wikiped
A Beautiful Mind is a 2001 American film based on the life of John Forbes Nash, a Nobel Laureate in Economics.[2] The film was directed by Ron Howard and written by Akiva Goldsman. It was inspired by a bestselling, Pulitzer Prize-nominated 1998 book of the same name by Sylvia Nasar. The film stars Russell Crowe, along with Jennifer Connelly, Ed Harris and Paul Bettany.

The story begins in the early years of Nash's life at Princeton University as he develops his "original idea" that will revolutionize the world of mathematics. Early in the movie, Nash begins developing paranoid schizophrenia and endures delusional episodes while painfully watching the loss and burden his condition brings on his wife and friends.

Quote from: butterfly effect
The butterfly effect is a phrase that encapsulates the more technical notion of sensitive dependence on initial conditions in chaos theory. Small variations of the initial condition of a dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system. This is sometimes presented as esoteric behavior, but can be exhibited by very simple systems: for example, a ball placed at the crest of a hill might roll into any of several valleys depending on slight differences in initial position.

It is a common subject in fiction when presenting scenarios involving time travel and with "what if" scenarios where one storyline diverges at the moment of a seemingly minor event resulting in two significantly different outcomes.

2004 American science fiction thriller film starring Ashton Kutcher, Amy Smart, Eric Stoltz, and others, distributed by New Line Cinema. The title is a reference to the butterfly effect, which theorises that a change in something seemingly innocuous, such as a flap of a butterfly's wings, may have unexpected larger consequences in the future, such as the path a hurricane will travel. The Butterfly Effect is directed and written by Eric Bress and J. Mackye Gruber.
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Post by: bible_basher on March 10, 2009, 02:33:08 pm
salo o le 120 giornate di sodoma is pretty fucking depressing because the libertines are so "heartless"(for lack of a better term) in what they do to the people. when i saw this i seriously wish i didn't but man it's fucked up and i suggest reading the wiki so you are not SURPRISED at what happens. the fact that the book is so much worse is just amazing and i really do not want to go near it, nor the movie ever again.
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Post by: jamie on March 10, 2009, 03:14:54 pm
alot of the films here aren't even mildly melancholy apart from one or two scenes i mean the life aquatic? that film is nonsense!

there's this director Susanne Bier who does films like what pink is looking for. it's a style - it's called dogma. anyway i saw after the wedding ages ago and i remember really liking it at the time - it's a danish film, she's danish but she done an american film called things we lost in the fire with benicio del toro and halle berry which was all right but a bit poorly written it's got the whole grit emotional realism/intensity thing. apparently her best film is open hearts but i haven't seen that yet.

there's probably quite a few directors out there doing dogma/dogme style films.
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Post by: big ass skelly on March 10, 2009, 03:18:49 pm
It's pretty nonsensical but it's not nosense imo. Definitely not a depressing film though.
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Post by: jamie on March 10, 2009, 03:21:53 pm
i still really enjoy the life aquatic despite wes anderson being a bit of a dick so all i meant was it was nonsensical not that it was rubbish
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 10, 2009, 03:29:48 pm
making mental note not to watch any of these films because i will be reduced to a blubbering babby for subsequent days

can I just say I don't understand this? and I don't mean "EVERYONE NEEDS A GOOD CRY..." or anything, but panda linked me a review of Dear Zachary where half the reviews at the bottom said "ugh...I'm not gonna watch this. it will ruin me" or "thanks for warning me! I won't watch, I'm a big wuss for stuff like this!"

the only time I won't watch a depressing movie is if I can figure out it's deliberately pulling heartstrings. like if Dear Zachary wasn't real I might still cry but I'd also be annoyed at the director for making such a lowblow. it's why I didn't like the Kite Runner either; so much awful shit happens you begin to wonder if the director has any sense of reality.

also here is a movie I find a specific kind of depressing I bet no one will agree with: The Fall. the premise is this guy who is kind of suicidal over his lost love and ruined career is telling this girl a big fish story about these five guys trying to defeat an evil king. the thing is, since he's making it up as he goes along, at the end he starts becoming really depressed and starts killing off the characters. the little girl starts begging him "no! why! stop it I love them!" and he's like NOTHING IS EVER GOOD and he starts killing off his own character and the little girl's character is all "get up papa!" and he's all "I'M NOT YOUR FATHER! LEAVE ME ALONE! I ONLY WANTED YOU SO YOU COULD STEAL ME MORPHINE SO I COULD DIE!"

it ends happier but man that entire scene I felt so sad as the little girl keeps crying and telling him to stop killing off the characters because he is killing...parts of himself...
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Post by: Ragnar on March 10, 2009, 04:10:32 pm
My brother thinks Butterfly Effect is like the best movie ever

isn't it just a bunch of older smarter movies/books combined and then all MTV'ed up (I dunno I haven't seen the whole thing but it seemed like that like 'whoa time travel is weird cue up trendy electronica track') shit probably that halloween episode of the Simpsons where Homer goes back in time with the toaster and changes the future is better written

Edit: I only saw a bit of the movie on FX once but I'm just figuring it's pretty bad probably because of Ashton Kutcher and all

but yeah I can see where some of the movies could just leave a depressing aftertaste even if that wasn't the constant mood in the movie. Like I was looking up Butterfly Effect and Twelve Monkeys came up, I thought that was depressing just because it was like nothing mattered anyway in the end

did anybody say Mystic River yet

Edit: Sorry if my movie choices are bad I'm not as big into looking up obscure/interesting movies anymore I just look for ones I've heard of at garage sales and on clearance etc.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 10, 2009, 04:12:39 pm
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ragnar thats not a simpsons original premise :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sound_of_Thunder
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Post by: Ragnar on March 10, 2009, 04:23:25 pm
oh that's right every Simpsons episode is based on something

when I was like 5 I thought the writers were like complete geniuses

I couldn't believe that one time they did a RUN LOLA RUN episode

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sound_of_Thunder_(video_game) ahahaha
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Post by: big ass skelly on March 10, 2009, 04:24:12 pm
I remember hearing about the fall when it came out and it sounded kind of cool but I never saw it, I'm gonna go saw it
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 10, 2009, 04:27:23 pm
oh wow that was a run lola run parody. I thought you meant the Logan's Run one. but yeah the Simpsons used to have way more parody eps.
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Post by: Ragnar on March 10, 2009, 04:30:59 pm
oh wow that was a run lola run parody. I thought you meant the Logan's Run one. but yeah the Simpsons used to have way more parody eps.

I'm talking about the ep where lisa had that grammar robot and was trying to get to the competition and it was shown from 3 different viewpoints (I guess that part could be Run Lola Run too) but they even had the exact same crappy german techno music when she was running which was mindfuck for me because I actually saw the movie later

or did you mean 'oh wow there was a run lola run parody'

also is Worker and Parasite based on anything in particular like Nu, Pogodi is the only Russian cartoon I really know (I sampled it once) and it also kind of seemed like Soviet version of Tom and Jerry
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 10, 2009, 04:33:32 pm
yeah it's run lola run. but there's also a logan's run dream sequence in an older ep so I got confused as I didn't know the Run Lola Run parody.
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Post by: tuxedo marx on March 10, 2009, 05:09:17 pm
don't get me wrong they are / are probably great films and I would watch them at any other time! but fuck right now would be the worst time
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Post by: FrostyPink on March 10, 2009, 05:32:09 pm
Just want to say thanks you guys for bringing up some films I don't know of and in the case of some, wanted to see but forgot and never got around to seeing.

and the reason I didn't really didn't want lists was because feeling emotional is usually a personal emotion and it's nice to know WHY it's depressing for someone, even if it's only a hint at why.
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Post by: mud on March 10, 2009, 05:56:18 pm
Here's a couple that made me kinda sad.

Marley & me - Totally not what was advertised.

Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind - Emo breakup stuff.
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Post by: OddButInteresting on March 11, 2009, 12:12:19 am
how's your valve ignatius?

'ard as nails! I haven't chucked-up in over four years! That said, the aforementioned scene in Revolutionary Road was putting it through its paces.

And how come no-one's mentioned The Green Mile yet? I refuse to watch it from start to finish, for the simple reason that I know my ducts'll stream 'til they're completely parched come the closing credits.

Also, speaking of Stephen King adaptations...

There's The Mist, of which I've only seen the monster scenes and the ending (at the time it didn't look as though it would get a release here in the UK). I mean c'mon, Whoever wrote that ending (King, Darabont or a third party screenwriter) is one sadistic bastard.

It had rather the same effect on me as Oldboy's ending. Which reminds me, I should revisit the Vengeance Trilogy soon.
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Post by: Rowain on March 11, 2009, 01:47:00 am
Futurama...... episode Jurassic Bark.....or Luck of the Fryish, take yer pick ;)
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Post by: pburn on March 11, 2009, 01:48:35 am
There's The Mist, of which I've only seen the monster scenes and the ending (at the time it didn't look as though it would get a release here in the UK). I mean c'mon, Whoever wrote that ending (King, Darabont or a third party screenwriter) is one sadistic bastard.

It had rather the same effect on me as Oldboy's ending. Which reminds me, I should revisit the Vengeance Trilogy soon.
The Mist is an awful suggestion for a "depressing movie". Seriously, the whole ending just seems so tacked on and out of place.

Vengeance Trilogy, I recommend it, personally I found the first one, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance the most realistic and depressing one.
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Post by: Layzer Phish on March 11, 2009, 02:05:18 am
Futurama...... episode Jurassic Bark.....or Luck of the Fryish, take yer pick ;)

Weird I just saw luck of the fryish last night. In a weird way it is a tragic episode, if only for futurama

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And how come no-one's mentioned The Green Mile yet?

Ya I agree with this one.
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Post by: Mongoloid on March 11, 2009, 05:10:56 am
Futurama...... episode Jurassic Bark.....or Luck of the Fryish, take yer pick ;)


Man, I never cry for like tv or movies or anything, but both of these episodes made me cry the first time I saw them! Now the breakfast club song is like the saddest thing in the world to me.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 11, 2009, 05:45:23 am
fyi both of those episodes are what I was referring to. they deliberately pull at your heartstrings during the whole thing and while it was sad, it was also fuckin MAUDLIN if that makes sense.

oh well doooont feel like explaining.
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Post by: Lars on March 11, 2009, 05:47:52 am
Last Life of the Universe
ya this one is great
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Post by: crone_lover720 on March 11, 2009, 06:03:59 am
not specifically replying to futurama post. I don't think pink's looking for movies that will make him cry, but I haven't seen any of the movies he mentioned so I can't tell for sure. there is a big difference tho, for instance Dear Zachary (depressing) kinda made me feel like shit while Cat Soup always makes me cry but isn't depressing at all. makes me cry can be pretty much anything

so I thought maybe I'd have some recommendations but nop. dear zachary I guess!! I don't really watch many things that are actually depressing unless I feel there's something else that makes it worth it. do you guys find vertigo depressing? I guess it is but I don't think that's what you're looking for. someone could mention like ERASERHEAD but while that is a depressing it's also a lot of other things. *edit* both of those are supposed to be Required Viewing tho which is why they came to mind
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Post by: hima on March 11, 2009, 06:13:11 am
Most of the depressing films I've watched are horror/crime related films :/  So, I'm not sure if this is the kind of depressing that you want but I'll give the names anyway.

- Se7en : Yeah, the ending made me depress for a few days. I doubt no one here has never seen this though :/

- The Girl Next Door : This one is based on a true crime about a girl being tortured to her death by her stepmother and the kids from the neighbourhoods. It's really brutal and very hard to watch.

- Eden Lake : A horror movie about a couple on their honeymoon trip but ended up pissed some kids around there off. The kids were really scary in the movie, and not in the "children of the corn" kind of way.
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Post by: Mongoloid on March 11, 2009, 06:39:56 am
If Seven counts as a depressing movie, I would suggest The Mist, because the ending is so amazingly sad.
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Post by: Cho on March 11, 2009, 07:01:15 am
Rome: Open City is pretty depressing. It's set in Rome during the German occupation in WWII, and it was actually filmed not long after the war so the scenes on the city streets are the real life, actual bombed out streets of Rome. While the story is predictable, you can actually feel the emotional intensity behind it.

It's not about the Holocaust.
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Post by: headphonics on March 11, 2009, 07:48:13 am
fyi both of those episodes are what I was referring to. they deliberately pull at your heartstrings during the whole thing and while it was sad, it was also fuckin MAUDLIN if that makes sense.

oh well doooont feel like explaining.
that doesnt even seem like what you were talking about.  you said FOR EXAMPLE if dear zachary was fiction and i agreed because a series of awful/improbable events take place, but i wouldnt call those futurama eps MAUDLIN at all!  luck of the fryrish was a regular ep with lots of flashbacks and one kinda sad scene at the end.  how is that maudlin?  it didn't even pull at any heartstrings until the final scene!  also if we're talking about fiction here, how could it not deliberately do that kind of thing?
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Post by: Ragnar on March 11, 2009, 01:18:48 pm
this is a depressing cartoon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8aFxk0aUuU&fmt=18

sorry if I linked to it before

Edit: Haha wtf supposedly it's by the same guy who did Kung Fu Panda
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Post by: OddButInteresting on March 11, 2009, 02:33:54 pm
Vengeance Trilogy, I recommend it, personally I found the first one, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance the most realistic and depressing one.

Perhaps even more depressing because someone I'm a sucker for style as well as substance though, so I much prefer Oldboy; although both its predecessor and successor are excellent in their own right(s?).

That scene with the parents watching the killer's videos in Lady Vengeance though... Fuck, that gave me chills for quite a while. By comparison, their revenge was surprisingly mild.

- Eden Lake : A horror movie about a couple on their honeymoon trip but ended up pissed some kids around there off. The kids were really scary in the movie, and not in the "children of the corn" kind of way.

I saw this at the flicks, and it left me feeling really angry. Despite being an exploitation flick (which, let's face it, you have to take with a pinch of salt), it hits quite a few pressure points. Chiefly, the role of the parents in the disciplining of their own children. It's a concern that's particularly prominent here in the UK.

Now yes, the situation presented in Eden Lake is a little exagerrated, but I have met kids like these in the past, and I wouldn't be surprised if they would go to such extremes as

But I agree with you totally. The ending was certainly... depressing.

this is a depressing cartoon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8aFxk0aUuU&fmt=18

I'll get around to watching this when I can spare six continuous minutes, but from what I did see on a cursory flick-through...

...bizarre.
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Post by: mud on March 11, 2009, 02:42:08 pm
Futurama...... episode Jurassic Bark

Oh yes :(

Even worse was the commentary for that one ... they didn't even make any mention about the ---. Grr.
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Post by: mud on March 11, 2009, 02:44:18 pm
- The Girl Next Door : This one is based on a true crime about a girl being tortured to her death by her stepmother and the kids from the neighbourhoods. It's really brutal and very hard to watch.

Wha? I thought that was about some former pornstar chick and a love comedy... or am I thinking of the wrong movie?
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Post by: Vellfire on March 11, 2009, 02:46:06 pm
Wha? I thought that was about some former pornstar chick and a love comedy... or am I thinking of the wrong movie?

i think you're thinking of the show girls next door about the playboy mansion
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on March 11, 2009, 03:08:17 pm
The Girl Next Door (2007) is the horror movie. The Girl Next Door (2004) is the porn star movie
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Post by: tuxedo marx on March 11, 2009, 03:16:45 pm
there is also one starring a porn star so this all fits rather nicely.
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Post by: ethos on March 11, 2009, 03:29:07 pm
Heavy (1995)

Plot:


Trailer: http://www.videodetective.com/titledetails.aspx?PublishedID=6793
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Post by: Ragnar on March 11, 2009, 04:25:56 pm
I'll get around to watching this when I can spare six continuous minutes, but from what I did see on a cursory flick-through...

...bizarre.

I thought it was pretty straightforward actually

but yeah I suddenly remembered it from some show I watched like 10 years ago and had to post it up
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 11, 2009, 04:37:05 pm
that doesnt even seem like what you were talking about.  you said FOR EXAMPLE if dear zachary was fiction and i agreed because a series of awful/improbable events take place, but i wouldnt call those futurama eps MAUDLIN at all!  luck of the fryrish was a regular ep with lots of flashbacks and one kinda sad scene at the end.  how is that maudlin?  it didn't even pull at any heartstrings until the final scene!  also if we're talking about fiction here, how could it not deliberately do that kind of thing?

I was going to add MOSTLY JURASSIC BARK but I didn't. I always felt Luck of the Fryish was way sadder because nothing preps you for it, where as the entirety of Jurassic Bark is DEAD DOG...WAS LOYAL.

also by deliberate I mean I picture some dude bent over a script going HEH HEH THIS WILL GET EM. I feel the same with musicians a lot; Gary Jules's Mad World sometimes feels that way to me (it does not help that Cliffy B used it in a Gears of War commercial). I guess the cleverness of writing matters too. like the fact that Fry's bro missed him so much he basically raised his son as who his uncle would be seems a bit more complex than your dog...it never stopped lovin you.

also Jurassic Bark is based on an irl dog who was much cooler because he was big as fuk.
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Post by: tuxedo marx on March 11, 2009, 05:26:07 pm
I was going to add MOSTLY JURASSIC BARK but I didn't. I always felt Luck of the Fryish was way sadder because nothing preps you for it, where as the entirety of Jurassic Bark is DEAD DOG...WAS LOYAL.
luck of the fryrish gets me big time because I have a big bro and he is the coolest guy. :)
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Post by: RPG on March 11, 2009, 06:56:09 pm
pan's labyrinth, ghost world, solaris, and mulholland drive come to mind
existenz was pretty depressing in a weird way but i guess that's just me

a friend of mine once argued that pan's and ghost world have 'good endings' but i don't think he gets it
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Post by: Lars on March 11, 2009, 07:47:27 pm
existenz was a bit of a mindfuck for me. it's pretty weird, since the production kind of distanced me from it through most of the beginning but suddenly i felt a bit fucked up by it.

i wouldnt call it depressing though. just mindfucking.
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Post by: GaZZwa on March 11, 2009, 09:07:36 pm
Bicycle Thieves (Ladri di biciclette/The Bicycle Thief) (Italy, 1948)

A brilliant, but very, very sad film. That's all.
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Post by: Cho on March 12, 2009, 12:03:16 am
Bicycle Thieves (Ladri di biciclette/The Bicycle Thief) (Italy, 1948)

A brilliant, but very, very sad film. That's all.

Yeah. "Brilliant, but very, very sad" is pretty much De Sica's MO. Also see: La Ciocara (Two Women) and Il Giardino dei Finzi-Contini (The Garden of the Finzi-Continis).
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Post by: Vellfire on March 12, 2009, 12:22:26 am
Bicycle Thieves (Ladri di biciclette/The Bicycle Thief) (Italy, 1948)

A brilliant, but very, very sad film. That's all.

My film class was going to watch this but we lost a week of class due to an ice storm so this movie was the one we cut out, I guess I'll have to see it on my own.
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Post by: Eltee on March 12, 2009, 01:50:26 am
i saw a really really depressing movie on tv once

it was a mexican movie that came out in 2001 or 2002 i think

i forget the name but it was about a middle aged child book author looking for her kidnapped husband

it was p.good but misleading because my tv guide said it was COMEDY but man was it depressing



Also, eXistenz isn't depressing in the least. It's a brainfuck movie, and not the best one. Full of twists, but somewhat meh acting.
I like it though.
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Post by: Mongoloid on March 12, 2009, 09:20:44 am
My film class was going to watch this but we lost a week of class due to an ice storm so this movie was the one we cut out, I guess I'll have to see it on my own.


Oh yea, The Ice Storm is a pretty depressing movie. I really love this movie so it's a real joy for me to bring it up. It's not real deep or anything, and it's been a while since I've seen it, but it's just about a family in the seventies not being able to deal with their problems. Also, some children die.
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Post by: RedScythes on March 12, 2009, 01:10:07 pm
Il Giardino dei Finzi-Contini (The Garden of the Finzi-Continis).


This book is especially depressing for me because we were reading the book and watching the movie in my English class when my English teacher died.
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Post by: Vellfire on March 12, 2009, 02:25:24 pm
Dancer in the Dark is probably the saddest movie I've seen, but it's also the kind of movie you either really enjoy or really can't stand so...

I mean it's going to be depressing either way but if you can't stand the music or the camerawork then you can't get that far into it.
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Post by: Roman on March 14, 2009, 01:21:02 am
Speaking of sad Futurama episodes, the one where Fry dies from the bee sting is petty sad.  Or maybe it's... maybe it's beautiful?  Either way it's really good.
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Post by: jamie on March 14, 2009, 01:30:22 am
futurama blows biscuits!!!
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Post by: Roman on March 14, 2009, 01:32:19 am
hey everybody let's listen to lamey jamie's lame-o opinions....
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Post by: Vellfire on March 14, 2009, 01:32:36 am
Everyone cried when we thought Pikachu was going to leave Ash...


Everyone.


Then we just cried more when he didn't.
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Post by: FrostyPink on March 14, 2009, 01:10:57 pm
Yeah, my friend actually cried at the Futurama episode Luck of the Fryish... Not quite sure how.

And velfarre, i think people cried even more during the first movie when ash turned to stone and all the pokémon cried... BUT THEN THAT BROUGHT HIM BACK TO LIFE. :O :O :O
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Post by: Vellfire on March 14, 2009, 02:23:11 pm
That too.
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on March 16, 2009, 12:27:26 am
i cried when he lost the pokemon league but that was it. you knew him and his pokemon would be alright, but the story built up to the pokemon league and you thought he'd win and that'd be the conclusion.

also while we're on the subject, have they made pokemon crystal in GBA cartridges? i might get a micro if they have.
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Post by: Parker on March 17, 2009, 12:28:37 am
And velfarre, i think people cried even more during the first movie when ash turned to stone and all the pokémon cried... BUT THEN THAT BROUGHT HIM BACK TO LIFE. :O :O :O
yeah, actually one of the greatest moments in cinema history
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Post by: Sapsuker on March 17, 2009, 01:38:26 am
and then mewtwo was all "man now i feel really bad" so decided to never show his ugly-ass face again

good movie, good movie.

but not depressing.

i'm trying to think of a depressing film but nothing's coming. maybe i just need to get in the mood. in eighth grade my math teacher showed us I am Sam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am_sam), which i'm probably sure you've heard about and i doubt it's what you're looking for. everyone in my class pretty much bawled their eyes out. it's about a mentally retarded person who tries to keep custody of his young daughter.
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Post by: bible_basher on March 21, 2009, 08:45:32 pm
can I just say I don't understand this? and I don't mean "EVERYONE NEEDS A GOOD CRY..." or anything, but panda linked me a review of Dear Zachary where half the reviews at the bottom said "ugh...I'm not gonna watch this. it will ruin me" or "thanks for warning me! I won't watch, I'm a big wuss for stuff like this!"

the only time I won't watch a depressing movie is if I can figure out it's deliberately pulling heartstrings. like if Dear Zachary wasn't real I might still cry but I'd also be annoyed at the director for making such a lowblow. it's why I didn't like the Kite Runner either; so much awful shit happens you begin to wonder if the director has any sense of reality.

also here is a movie I find a specific kind of depressing I bet no one will agree with: The Fall. the premise is this guy who is kind of suicidal over his lost love and ruined career is telling this girl a big fish story about these five guys trying to defeat an evil king. the thing is, since he's making it up as he goes along, at the end he starts becoming really depressed and starts killing off the characters. the little girl starts begging him "no! why! stop it I love them!" and he's like NOTHING IS EVER GOOD and he starts killing off his own character and the little girl's character is all "get up papa!" and he's all "I'M NOT YOUR FATHER! LEAVE ME ALONE! I ONLY WANTED YOU SO YOU COULD STEAL ME MORPHINE SO I COULD DIE!"

it ends happier but man that entire scene I felt so sad as the little girl keeps crying and telling him to stop killing off the characters because he is killing...parts of himself...
why did you expect nobody to agree with you i found the fall to be a pretty depressing movie exactly because of this