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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Marcus on March 17, 2009, 05:10:20 pm
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A new PS3 exclusive action RPG by the developers of the cult classic King's Field was recently released called Demon's Souls. It's an action RPG where you play as a nameless "hero" who has to save a kingdom from an evil king summoning monsters. I say "hero" because once you start the game you can do whatever the hell you want. Save the world, loot the place, rule the world, kill other players, who cares it's your choice.
screenshots here (http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/10/03/demons-souls-first-screenshots-and-details/)
What has me most excited is the attention to detail. Objects interact with the world on a physics based system. Cover crumbles, weapons bounce against the terrain (meaning you can't use a spear in a tight hallway), monsters roam the levels never staying in one spot (a dragon perches on a pulpit, launches fireballs, flies out of range, comes dive bombing in, etc.) and so on.
While the game is single player, there's a unique procedural multiplayer that affects you if you're online. Basically, there's multiple universes and your character is a soul in every universe but your own. Periodically you can see other "souls" (other players in their own game) fighting stuff. You can't interact with them as they're essentially ghosts. The different universes will often merge so players can leave messages in the dirt to be read by anybody, you can find bloodstains of dead players, discarded equipment, and sometimes a player's soul will appear as an antagonist.
Currently the game is Japan only but for whatever reason it was translated fully in English (except the manual). Sony has no plans to release it internationally which is criminal. It sold out in Japan the first week! I imported the game from Australia and god dammit I can't wait to play it.
on multiplayer
It seems like they wanted to integrate multiplayer into the game without hampering the single-player experience. They integrate it in such a way that it never breaks the atmosphere and conventions created by the single-player. Well, there really is only a “single-player” mode; the multiplayer features are just integrated into it if your console is online.
1. I believe the story has you being a person who is resurrected by a sorceress to go fight the evil. Since this is the story for everyone playing, I guess she has an army of souls. When you play, you can see some other players as they play their game. You can't see what they're fighting or anything; you just see their character as they do fighting animations or jumping or whatever. You can't interact with them; all you're seeing is their ghost (soul?).
2. You can leave messages on the ground which other players can read. You can leave hints or comments or trick them or whatever.
3. Sometimes you will come across a big bloodstain on the ground. When you check it, it will spawn a ghost of another player and you can see how they died there.
4. Another gameplay point seems to be that when you die, you come back as a soul, meaning you only have half your max HP. You can't get your body back until you defeat a boss. However, if a living player has a certain item, they can use it to summon souls to his side (sort of like pokemon). You can go to his game and have multiplayer this way, and when you defeat a boss you'll get your body back, which should be a lot easier with a team. The catches are that when the summoner dies, you're transported back to your world. Also, there isn't any voice chat; only animated gestures.
5. Alternatively, if you don't feel like teaming up with someone or fighting a boss, you can instead teleport to someone else's game and attempt to kill him. If you do, you'll get resurrected. If not, there's some penalty I don't know.
6. I guess this is spoilers for one of the bosses but it's really cool. Supposedly one boss can pick you up and throw you into another room, which is filled with other players (how the game sets this up I don't know). You then have to duke it out in a giant battle royale, because only the last one standing may leave the room and the defeat the boss.
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You aren't usually fighting alongside other players, but at the same time you constantly run into evidence of other people playing. Either you'll see a ghost image of another player in the same area you're in in their game (you can't interact, just observe them playing), or read messages, or whatever. It makes this epic crusade all these knights are on feel very real, as there are players all over this game world working toward the same goal.
The messages work really well. For example you can't really jump horizontally, but there are several places where you need to leap down, and people leave really useful info on where you can get down to secret areas. The developers are being pretty clever about it too. there are several areas where enemies ambush you, or arrow traps spring up quickly, that were obviously made so that people could help each other out of them. There was this particular boss that kept destroying us again and again, until we noticed this stray message someone had written in the arena. It read something like "Here. Don't move" and it turns out someone had found a safe spot in the room where the boss couldn't get to you. So cool to find.
And speaking of bosses, this game is rather difficult. Even with as much life energy as possible, with the best armor one could reasonably have, at any given point, you won't be able to take more than 4 or 5 hits at best. And a lot of bosses will kill you in two. This isn't Dynasty Warriors. You have to become pretty adept at using your shield, and rolling out of the way intelligently based on the sounds/attack animations that bad guys make.
I'm almost 99% positive that you do lose souls when you die. That's the incentive for not charging in swinging, and generally proceeding with caution. They don't take away souls you have spent leveling up or upgrading equipment, but any loose souls are void if you die as a ghost.
There were some things that we couldn't quite figure out though. Apparently you could enter other people's games in an antagonistic role, and appear as an evil looking black shadow thing, but we never really figured out the mechanics of it. Also, is there anyway to "sell" old weapons/pieces of equipment? The game isn't terribly loot heavy, and you will want to hold on to stuff, as even early equipment can be upgraded into usefulness by spending souls on it...but there will eventually come equipment that you no longer have any use for. And it seemed odd that you could do nothing with it.
For anyone worried about importing, the game seemed extremely English friendly from my perspective. Though since it isn't an English release, finding pertinent information is difficult, so finding a community of player like the something Awful boards seems like a good idea.
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oh yeah, this is a hardcore rpg in that it's unforgiving in its difficulty. apparently there are no shops (you have to forge new items from previously obtained items) and minimal grinding involved. basically, your success relies purely on skill. other players say that the best strategy is to always have a ranged weapon or magic handy because enemies will attack you from afar and only a few hits, even with the best armor, will kill you. of course, the game isn't a traditional hack and slash. people are describing it as a roguelike (minus the procedural generation) in that you have to weigh your decisions carefully. if you go in hacking and slashing, you will be overpowered and die.
weapons have various speeds and ranges as well. a spear gives you a range advantage but can blocked by walls while a two handed sword can tear through enemy defenses but you're left without a shield and it's slow.
and the enemies are pretty wicked. at the start of the game you'll be fighting dragons and 20ft tall demons but early on the best strategy is to trick/run/get enemies to fight each other.
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Yeah, this sounds pretty awesome. PS3 is region free, right?
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Yeah, this sounds pretty awesome. PS3 is region free, right?
yep and there's no region locking on multiplayer so US guys can play JP guys etc.
i'm assuming they designed this game to be as universally accepted as possible. there's very little text and dialog and all chat comes through animated emotions your character does. sony better release this shit!
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this sounds like an rpg which should NOT be undertaken lightly
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Hmm... it doesn't sound all that interesting to me. But that's probably because King's Field made me want to bash my head into the wall :)
Hope it does come out though, more variety is always good. I do like the multiplayer ghosts idea... interesting way to turn a single player RPG into one!
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I have this game, and it is good... But in several ways it is horribly retarded. Well, in one major way actually.
This game is kind of like a Roguelike, in that initially you will die, a lot. However, dying is SEVERELY punished.
Firstly, you should understand the difficulty of this game. Most normal enemies aren't much of a threat, they are fairly weak, and die relatively easily. However, a group of 2-3 of them can be much more of a threat, and 4+ can quickly kill you.
Additionally, each level usually has bigger, more powerful enemies. These take a major beating, and in some cases can kill you in one hit, and this hit in some cases cannot be defended against.
Also, it is not uncommon for stages to have environmental hazards. The first stage has dragons that will swoop down and breath fire on you. This can take off 80% of your maximum Hp and cannot be defended against.
The game plays in a similar way to Monster Hunter games. Each weapon has a very limited selection of attacks (one weak which might have a 2-3 hit combo, and one strong, which might have a 2 hit combo). Each type of weapon has advantages and disadvantages, examples include spears, there advantage is their range and they have a thrusting action, but they are easily blocked by shields. In comparison a large sword has a decent range and a wide sweeping action, they are good at staggering people who block, but their wide sweeping action means they cannot be effectively used in small areas because they hit walls and obstacles (which can reduce damage they deal, or even make attacking with them impossible).
Each weapon you equip will literally change the way you play the game.
On top of this, you have to familiarize yourself with the controls of the game, as well as what is best to use and when. You have to learn when to block and when to evade, because it could make the difference between living and dying.
Anyway, you gain "souls" for killing stuff. Souls are like currency and experience. You use them to buy items, upgrade equipment, buy new magic spells, but also you need them to gain levels and raise stats.
If you die, you lose all of your souls and there is no way of storing them for safe keeping. You can regain them, at the spot you die is a bloodstain which you can recollect lost souls. But if you die before getting back to it, or change stages, the bloodstain is gone and so are the souls, forever.
Also, you have two forms. A living form, and a phantom form. When you die, you turn into the phantom form, this cuts down your maximum Hp by HALF (or by 25% with a piece of equipment). Returning to living form requires either a rare item, or killing a boss. In phantom form, you tend to die a lot quicker.
If you die while in phantom form, the area shifts towards a "black tendancy". This means certain events may change and some things in the stage will be different. However, it also means enemies get stronger and more powerful enemies appear more commonly, but the rewards for killing enemies is much higher. But... The difference in enemy strength while in a black tendancy area is insane. A normal enemies, that is not very aggressive, dies in 3 hits and could probably kill you in 20 hits in a black tendancy world will be very aggressive, die in 6-8 hits and kill you in 2-3 hits.
The powerful enemies are called black phantoms and are like minibosses (but can also be controlled by other players). They can be stupidly strong, to the point where I have in the past spent 20 minutes fighting one and still lost.
The opposite of black tendancy is white tendancy, which means enemies are weaker but give less rewards. However, getting a black tendancy in an area is easy. Getting a white tendancy in an area is very hard (if you die in an area 10 times, it will be totally black, but getting it to neutral involves killing 10 bosses... But you can only fight a boss once, which means you need to complete the entire game 10 times to get it back to neutral, provided you do not die once).
In short. The game is good, gameplay is excellent, storyline is hardly existant because it is suppose to be about ball breakingly hard gameplay. Buttt... The game gets harder each and every time you die. If you do not get good at the game fast, it can become literally impossible to play and will almost guaranteed require you restart with a new character. An example is on stage 2 (an EASY stage), if it is in black tendancy you have to fight not one, not two, but THREE black phantoms. I cannot kill one on it's own in a 20 minute long fight... You have absolutely no chance at all of killing 3. (And all 3 could actually be other players, which makes it impossibly harder)
The majority of the game however is relatively easy, provided you understand that charging in blindly will get you killed quickly. The major threats come from the big, powerful miniboss enemies, bosses and other players. Which will count for 99% of your deaths. You have to learn what each enemy is, how they pose a threat and how best to deal with them inorder to kill them.
This is not a game everyone will enjoy. But provided you like hardcore action RPGs with extreme difficulty, you may very well enjoy it!
Also, the Asian (more specifically Chinese) version of this game is entirely in English. All the text and voice actors are in English, if it was not for the case and the manual in the game, you wouldn't be able to tell it was the Asian version of the game. And it can be played on any PS3. If you want the game, and don't want to wait, order it from somewhere like Play-Asia.
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long ass awesome post
my penis is hard
glad i paid that extra 20$ aussie for fast shipping i want to get this game by fucking friday!
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Marcus can you please stop assimilating me into your MMOs.
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This looks like it has the potential to be super fun, though idk if I'd like the difficulty or not. I'd have to try it first, but..
it's not even out here. And I'm not importing a game, especially if I'm not sure about it.
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This looks promising.. its definitly peaked my interest, will check it out if they decide to release it here.
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uh we have a problem here. i went to the post office at 9:00 AM to pick up the game... but i just got done playing it right now (3:30 AM the next day)
i mean srsly wtf? this game is too addicting. i am in love with it. i must have died like 60 times already but it's totally okay because this game is a gem.
if you're into action rpgs (aka the fun kind of rpgs!) and you can handle some difficulty (aka you're not a pussy) then do yourself a favor and buy this game immediately. even i had doubts about this being good at first but so far my experiences with demon's souls have been nothing short of superb...
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uh we have a problem here. i went to the post office at 9:00 AM to pick up the game... but i just got done playing it right now (3:30 AM the next day)
i mean srsly wtf? this game is too addicting. i am in love with it. i must have died like 60 times already but it's totally okay because this game is a gem.
if you're into action rpgs (aka the fun kind of rpgs!) and you can handle some difficulty (aka you're not a pussy) then do yourself a favor and buy this game immediately. even i had doubts about this being good at first but so far my experiences with demon's souls have been nothing short of superb...
I am guessing you have no idea about world tendancies, and have yet to encounter a black phantom.
If you want an example of how hard a Black Phantom can be to kill. Go to the first stage, at the area with all those catapults. Then go down the side that is opposite to where the blue knight spawns (and where the fog is you enter). There will be a crossbow guy and a soldier with a pike down there, so you know it is the right area.
Go through the room at the end, then down this narrow pathway. You'll run into a red knight, he is holding a spear, so you know it is the right guy. Hahaha, try and kill him.
I bet you cannot (he is way harder than the first boss, probably even harder than the second and third bosses). Black Phantoms are like this red knight, but stronger, faster and take a lot more of a beating. At certain areas you will have to fight 2-4 of these at a time.
Enjoy never being able to progress through stage 1, or complete the game, because in the second area of stage one you have to fight a ton of black phantoms to progress, and it is in a very small, enclosed area and there is a lot of crossbow soldiers shooting at you. (Which when you are in a black tendancy area can kill you in 2 hits, actually any sort of soldier can 2 hit kill you in a black tendancy area)
The game is great and all. But they way it punishes you for dying (by making the game exponentially harder, to the point that it is impossible to play) is really retarded.
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lol you fuckin scrub i eat black motherfucking fantoms for dinner. i fought six at once in stage 3 it was easy if your not a scrub.
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lol dude i know what world tendencies are. but yeah i agree with you. npc black phantoms can be stupidly tough, there's no denying it. so far i've only fought and beaten the red eyed knight in 1-1 and the female archer phantom that appears before the boss of 3-1. i wasn't able to beat the red knight on my first playthrough of the level, though. i returned after i was strong enough and i resorted to making use of the catapults lying around because he would often get stuck on them if you're standing on the other side. from there you can weaken him a lot with firebombs and stuff or projectile weapons.
i haven't encountered a human black phantom yet, but one time in 3-1 i was requesting a coop game and some weird shit happened where i was teleported to a room where i got this big yellow tornado hat from a skeleton dude. it was weird and i got to walk around the room for a while before it ended but nothing else happened. does anyone know anything about this??
i didn't get to keep the tornado hat either...
as far as difficulty after dying goes, i think that co-op play can really help. it's like a way to help you get back on your feet. not only do you get some experience from whatever your partners kill, but you also get revived into human form after clearing the boss.
edit: just found out that if you're a phantom and you died in coop you get to keep your souls
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I really want this, but paying the extra cash for a game I'm not sure how I'll appreciate is pretty harsh.
Shit looks awesome though.
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Will this be given some sort of official release within Europe specifically uk or is importing it the only way to aquire it?
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currently it's only available in Japan and asian countries.
the distribution is really weird. hong kong and singapore have a large english speaking population (they are the centers of eastern world business) but sony has mentioned nothing about distributing the game anywhere else.
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there have been no announcements made for a US/EU release. but to make things clear, there are currently three versions of the game that are out right now: japanese, chinese, korean. of these, the chinese and korean versions are complete with english text as long as that's what your language is set to on your ps3. the only thing that doesn't come in english is the boxart and the manual, but who cares about that... if you're interested in the game i don't see what could be holding you back. import away!
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lol dude i know what world tendencies are. but yeah i agree with you. npc black phantoms can be stupidly tough, there's no denying it. so far i've only fought and beaten the red eyed knight in 1-1 and the female archer phantom that appears before the boss of 3-1. i wasn't able to beat the red knight on my first playthrough of the level, though. i returned after i was strong enough and i resorted to making use of the catapults lying around because he would often get stuck on them if you're standing on the other side. from there you can weaken him a lot with firebombs and stuff or projectile weapons.
i haven't encountered a human black phantom yet, but one time in 3-1 i was requesting a coop game and some weird shit happened where i was teleported to a room where i got this big yellow tornado hat from a skeleton dude. it was weird and i got to walk around the room for a while before it ended but nothing else happened. does anyone know anything about this??
That is the only stage in the game where you get to potentially play as the boss. Chances are, the other person playing realised this, and quit the game or got themselves killed.
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marcus how is this game man
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It's like an epic battle with a gorilla that likes to sack you while your down.
I managed to play it, my god.
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marcus how is this game man
don't know. still waiting for it.
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so ya it took me about 35 hours to beat the game, and i ended up dying a total of 115 times (wow). but apparently, dying that many times on your first playthrough can be pretty common
i find myself still enjoying every moment of this game in new game+. yay for replay value!
i recently got to participate in a 4-player co-op game too. except i thought you could only summon up to 2 blue phantoms max? it seemed strange so i just had to record some footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODrWxafi4YU
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Can you pk in this?
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yes, you can invade the other people's games as a black phantom and pvp them using an item called the black eye stone. in doing so your tendency (something like an alignment) will change towards black. it can get pretty damn hectic knowing there's someone out there trying to kill you as you progress through the level.
oh fuck as i am typing this post a black phantom invaded my game
edit: i won and it was extremely satisfying.
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I read somewhere there are two versions of this game, one which can be translated and the other which cant.. im kinda worried if I try to import this from somewhere ill end up getting the wrong one and trying to send something back to asia I know will cause a ton of problems.
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just get the chinese or the korean version and you should be fine (refer to post #19)
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Sounds like my kind of game. I'd bitch about them not bringing it over to the US but I have yet to get a PS3. My second 360 got redlighted 2 months ago (still have it just in case) and I'd sooner buy a third 360 than a PS3.
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BUMP
why hasn't this game been talked about more.
It's awesome, but recently it's gotten very very easy for me. Sure I die, but only because I do something stupid and roll off a cliff. Or try to do a fancy kill on an enemy. If I sit and play properly, I barely ever die. Kind of sucks, since I was hoping the game'd be brutal the whole way, but the last few bosses and areas I finished easily.
I have the Death Swamp world left, and then maybe I'll finally get the chance to lull to Old One back to slumber.
Anyone here beaten it?
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It's a crazy hard game and I'm pissed off right now since I lost about 100k in souls to the false king then I lost to the easy old hero...he kick my ass because my mom was arguing with her boyfriend and I accidental pushed myself in corner... just like in boxing match you don't want to be ever in the corner.... and I almost beat that blind mother fucker.
most of the boss are easy other then the 2nd mine boss (Because he is hella fast and hard to doge but like most of the boss he dose telegraphic his moves. But there is a trick to get him stuck but it may or may not be indefinite) and false king I keep getting killed by him... maybe because my will is week and a tap magic can half my HP or more.
BTW did I add you to my PS3 account XxNemesis29xX
Also the game did good in the states and Atlus is happy. So it truns out not to be a cult classic.
Edit: My soul Lv is 66.
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i actually played it for the first time today at a friend's, it was pretty sweet but we died a billion times when fighting some asshole boss
i find running through levels using 2 shields and rolling quite effective
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I just had 2 souls invade me with about 5 min apart and I killed both of them the first one almost had me. thanks to an enemy that was blocking me for a roll back. The 2nd one had allot HP but week attack and I still killed him with one backstab... it was cool I was in a prison cell back against the wall he starts to move thru the door and right then I roll right past him and turned fast for the backstab. I took a full bar of HP from that sinester soul (well as full as it gets for the dead).
I'm going to play offline for bit because PVP is cool and all but I'm trying to beat the game... I'm not dance with these fagets and all when I'm try to achieve a goal... Hell I came to the prison to find the key and I failed because of these clowns since they kept comeing for my soul. Just like pimping life is not easy ether.
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i actually played it for the first time today at a friend's, it was pretty sweet but we died a billion times when fighting some asshole boss
i find running through levels using 2 shields and rolling quite effective
but absolutely unrewarding
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but absolutely unrewarding
and pointless you need souls to get stronger and repair damage equipment.
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This game is fun but can be a piss take at times.
Looking at this video you can see that the phantom heals itself to 100% when near death and at times some other enemies fight you as well! I don't have the game but I want it, I don't have a PS3 unfortunately.
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This game is fun but can be a piss take at times.
But that is when there at there weekest because they can't block when doing this... There is only one cheep dark phantom I ran into and he was in 1-4 after the penetrator. Frist you had to lure him away from the other black phantom and he happens to be an aracher... But thats not the hard part it's when I was attacking him just find out that he is destroying my equipment and he had huge heath lucky me he was slow. But after my victory with him it was a better one since I paid out the butt load of souls to repair the damages.
BTW about the video he must be fighting special phantom by making the world tendencies dark because he's not normally there.
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Just beat the game last night, the last boss in the Valley of Defilement was WAY more epic than the final boss of the game,... which was really weird/lame.
Everyone who's playing this should go to Stonefang mines, and in 2-2 in the tunnels kinda close to the lava pits areas is a sword called the Dragon Long Sword +1. You can boost that to Long Dragon Sword +5 VERY easily since all the items are very plentiful in that dungeon, and its strength becomes like 350, PLUS fire-stun with each hit. Amazing weapon so such an easy catch, and you'll still with it for the entire game too once you get it.
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The real fun of this game is after you beat it the first time and you get invaded repeatedly. After my first play through I fought, oh yes, 10 player phantoms in the first base, one after another in near seamless sequence. I also had something like this in 2-1, fighting about 6 guys in a row. I've been through it maybe 4 times, and I have a level 230 character, but once you get that high PvP becomes kind of... well, imbalanced. HP growth past 50 vit is dismal (51-99 vit = 400 total hp like what), and the S-Class weapon bonus makes your weapons way too powerful. Most of the time I get invaded by pushovers that die in one or two hits, but sometimes I'll get invaded by someone that'll one-shot me with hard to dodge magic (homing soul arrow).
Also, if you want a -hard- NPC Black Phantom, Scirvir in 2-2, pure black world tendency. He's hard. I currently use a +5 Crushing Great Sword... holy shit, it has REAL high attack when you get 99 str! <3 Up until then, though, I used the Northern Regalia, with Pure White soul tendency for a nice 540 Attack Power. +5 Dark Silver Shield, Old King Doran armor set, and, for pvp, Eternal Warrior Ring + Ring of Avarice (hey, phantoms give TONS of exp) or, if they're strong, Thief + Graverobbers ring. lolbackstab.
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I wish I could join in all the fun... Think they will ever port this to xbox 360? :]
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Just beat the game last night, the last boss in the Valley of Defilement was WAY more epic than the final boss of the game,... which was really weird/lame.
Everyone who's playing this should go to Stonefang mines, and in 2-2 in the tunnels kinda close to the lava pits areas is a sword called the Dragon Long Sword +1. You can boost that to Long Dragon Sword +5 VERY easily since all the items are very plentiful in that dungeon, and its strength becomes like 350, PLUS fire-stun with each hit. Amazing weapon so such an easy catch, and you'll still with it for the entire game too once you get it.
That sword is super good. I love it. Although, you're really exaggerating with 350 attack power. It's not even nearly that, and even the strongest weapon (in terms of sheer power) isn't 300.
That said, I haven't gotten invaded once yet during my first playthrough. I did invade people like 3-4 times but they gang up with blue phantoms for a 4v1 fight. :(
I can't wait til I beat the game.
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I don't think I exaggerated it. It's 175 Attack, and 175 Fire-Attack, it brings by attack power to 350! Unless that 175 Fire-Attack doesn't actually increase damage? Just a measure of how often it'll fire-stuns enemies?
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That sword is super good. I love it. Although, you're really exaggerating with 350 attack power. It's not even nearly that, and even the strongest weapon (in terms of sheer power) isn't 300.
That said, I haven't gotten invaded once yet during my first playthrough. I did invade people like 3-4 times but they gang up with blue phantoms for a 4v1 fight. :(
I can't wait til I beat the game.
There are definitely weapons with > 300 attack. Perhaps not base weapons, but my +5 Crushing Great Sword has well over 300.
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I'm mad right now the false king keep kick my ass I'm LV75 and doge majority of his attack but some how he always ends up besting me. I got him down 80% and then everything took a turn. I tried to summen souls but I get the retarted people that don't know how to get by the fire from the dragon. Maybe I should kill the dragon it might save me the heart brake of seeing my partners in crime die to such a cheep death.
PS I hate soul suck. I was a victim to it about 3 times out of the 14 bouts.
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There are definitely weapons with > 300 attack. Perhaps not base weapons, but my +5 Crushing Great Sword has well over 300.
I also mean the weapon's base stats, without the added stat bonuses.
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Beat the game you guys do know there is an evil ending to witch BTW gives you more souls I think 200000
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Beat the game you guys do know there is an evil ending to witch BTW gives you more souls I think 200000
I don't recommend doing that until subsequent play throughs, as getting the good ending lands you a Soul to learn Soul Sucker.
I, no offense, find it kind of sad that you manage to get hit by Soul Sucker... it has like 5-10 seconds of "casting" and you have to be in direct melee contact when it ends to actually be effected by it...
Also, you'll find that 200,000 souls is really not a lot (it takes me well more than that to level up >: )
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I, no offense, find it kind of sad that you manage to get hit by Soul Sucker... it has like 5-10 seconds of "casting" and you have to be in direct melee contact when it ends to actually be effected by it
Well when I get hit with it. it's normally when I go for a 2 hit combo and pull away... he normally dose a combo before the soul suck but sometimes he did it out of the blue I even rolled back about 3 times and he some how he got me with it. also when he charges me is when I normally strike him.
Anyways every move in this game is telegraphed so you should be ashamed for dieing on anything.
Also I find every last stage boss battle easy other then the false king.
Dragon god was a joke.
Storm king I could avoid every shot by hiding behind rocks.
Old Monk was easily best it.(but I do hate the enemies placement on this Lv. IE stairs where you can fall easily)
The bosses before the last stage bosses are more dangerous.
I Did Feel sorry for killing the maiden and the monk since in a sense we are invading theses demon's world and some of these demons don't really know the fog is evading the human world and they don't really have a say in it. So it's really not the demons fault other then the old king. But sadly we must slay them down to brake the seal to the old king. They just want to live just like any other life form.
first game I had mixed feeling about. At first i was like alright lets kill some demons! to man what have I done.(even tho I normally go the evil route on any game. But this kind of gave you the false feelings of you being forced to do something good but near the end you see there is 2 prospectives... normaly when it comes to games your fully aware of doing good or bad but this game blured the lines.)
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I do agree, I think the Old King is the hardest boss in the game, and at that, the best boss (as far as a fight perspective goes.) However, the end of 5...-4? Was by far the most epic.
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Old King is hard as hell if you do try to actually kill him. Shoving off some health for Demonbrandt isn't too hard however
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Here's something EVERY player needs to go. Go to 2-2 Tower of Lataria, and rescue then kill Yurt the Silent Chief, because his armor is BADASS and awesome. Then, go to Boletaria and go to the dragon nest area (where the blue and red dragon sit and chill), and get the Ring of Great Strength. This'll double your equip burden capacity, so you move super quick as though in light-class weight, but with really good armor. This helps TREMENDOUSLY when facing off against the Old King.
Can't tell me this isn't badass!
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/doctorno__/DemonSoul-1-9.webp)
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You didn't bother saying what happens if you let Yurt in the Nexus WITHOUT killing him ;p
That said, don't kill yurt in 3-2 (not 2-2), instead rescue him and kill a boss, THEN kill him in the Nexus: it's safer, in 3-2 his body could fall all the way down and you'd never get his armor. Plus, if you're overburdened, you'd lose his stuff in 3-2, while in the Nexus you just go naked and go see Stockpile Thomas.
That said, don't kill more than ONE boss after rescuing Yurt before killing him. The consequences would be dire.
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Finally got my hands on this and its great but so damn frustrating. I cant stand dyeing and having to work my way back to where I was its annoying as hell. I was also stupid enough to take my armor off so I could pick something up only to fall to my death. I was already a soul so now I have little life and no armor, mission accomplished.. this game is hard.
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put your armor back on?
unless you actually DROPPED IT
in that case yes you are retarded
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put your armor back on?
unless you actually DROPPED IT
in that case yes you are retarded
LOL I don't know what is funnier him dropping his stuff to pick up shit or your Avy.
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this is the only time i wished i had a ps3...damn
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Err yeah I dropped the armor to see what was on the ground, I fell before I could pick up the item or any of my armor back. I'm going to have to wait a few days before I find the will to put this game back on.. But, I still think its a great game. If only I had the patience to play it properly.
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I wish I could join in all the fun... Think they will ever port this to xbox 360? :]
perhaps it will in future.
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got the game yesterday and played for a bit and had a blast.
I got trolled into jumping from the highest point in the Nexus.
Also, rolled a thief and not sure if it was a well suited choice for a first character.
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Im not sure if my version I aquired from Hong Kong is different from the American version and if the iventory is different in both because I cant tell what all the odd symbols mean in the item stats page or what to even look for when checking stats on a weapon or piece of armor. I've also just learned you dont have to play the levels in order which is what I've been trying to do and unsuccesfully at that, I seem to be facing boss's way out of my league.
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you have to learn how to face the bosses, that's all
you can get through the game with uneffective equipment and stats until you get to the fake last boss, where if you're not prepared right, you pretty much don't stand a chance unless you coop
and if you get through it by cooping, you'll have a hell of a hard time in your first newgame+
also, the stat symbols are never explained, you have to check them up and memorize what they mean ;/
EDIT: Useful tip for people, aswell
When you figure out how this game works, with players basically giving tips to each other as messages or just popping up to momentarily aid you, if you think outside the game, a wiki is the closest fitting thing for this mechanism
Just so happens there are two wikis (watch out for spoilers, but you can get through them without seeing any)
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/ Very good wiki with few spoilers
http://www.atlus.com/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page Somewhat good wiki owned by Atlus, however the user content is of somewhat lower quality than the other wiki, and it's easier to find spoilers here; Some walkthrough info might be more in-depth though
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got the game yesterday and played for a bit and had a blast.
I got trolled into jumping from the highest point in the Nexus.
Also, rolled a thief and not sure if it was a well suited choice for a first character.
A thief stats has one of the highest starting base stats and is almost equal to one other class then the other class chooses. So he's good to start with but he's harder to Lv up since his starting Demon soul Lv is higher... royals (or what ever there called) May be the hardest to start with but they can be full customizable since you choose where you would like to allocate points since there soul LV is 1 also making the first few allocated-able points cheep. (after beating the first boss.)
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Old King is hard as hell if you do try to actually kill him. Shoving off some health for Demonbrandt isn't too hard however
I was referring to the False King. Translation differences!
Old King Doran isn't too bad though... his AI is way too much like a black phantom making him sort of predictable. Now, of course, if he hits you, you're pretty much boned, but you can drag him away and repeatedly backstab him!
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False King is hard as hell aswell. I'm pretty much boned because I have stupid stats and stupid equipment (no actually good weapons and my only two uniques are the Scraping Spear (terribly pointless against regular enemies) and the Dragon Bone Smasher (incredibly powerful but can't be used in all situations, especially not False King))
As a sad result I stopped playing the game since I have to farm for shit, level, get weapins, just so False King doesn't rape me and newgame+ too
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On an unrelated note, where the hell is Marcus?
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False King is hard as hell aswell. I'm pretty much boned because I have stupid stats and stupid equipment (no actually good weapons and my only two uniques are the Scraping Spear (terribly pointless against regular enemies) and the Dragon Bone Smasher (incredibly powerful but can't be used in all situations, especially not False King))
As a sad result I stopped playing the game since I have to farm for shit, level, get weapins, just so False King doesn't rape me and newgame+ too
I hated the False King but I beat him with a Week weapon in fact I love my week weapon because it's fast and leaves barley any week points with a shield (other then gay magic).BTW the week weapon I use is Scimitar+5 or was it a 6.(and I killed a few week ass dark souls... even one with a Dragon Bone Smasher on a section in the prison level where it was in his favor (tight and narrow spaces IE where the jail cells are.) but he almost had me because of the NPC that crawed up my back when I was trying to doge.