Uhm, my point was that the mainstream stuff from Korea that makes it here is lame. You don't have to take it upon you to defend the entire Korean culture. There's probably a much more artistic branch of Korean cinematography, but the people I know who are into to Asian films aren't interested that. They want swords, guts and torture. Somehow they get that too seem intellectual because the actors aren't speaking English.

I'd gladly check out a few more sublime Korean movies if you think that would do me good. I've thought about downloading brotherhood, but I'm not much for war-movies. Chihwaseon, would that be a good starter?

Just don't tell me that I don't grasp what you're talking about. I've bickered about this shit many times before :)

PS: Glad to hear someone else thinks Kill Bill is fucking over rated!

It's just a matter of opinion, mate. I'm annoyed by the fact that those movies have gotten so much artistic respect. If you try to analyze it, it's basically just your average hollywood action flicks with cockiness and car chases replaced by psychological torture and slapstick knife fights. It's not art to build up scenarios to evoke the strongest possible emotions from the viewer without having any point behind it. At least the hollywood crap isn't pretentious.

Ah, yeah. It goes:

1. Sympathy for Mr Vengeance
2. Oldboy
3. Sympathy for Lady Vengeance

I haven't seen the third, so I can't really comment on it.

I've seen all three, and I'd say the first and last one are both pretty horrible. It's all torture and gore with like little music-box melodies playing in the background.  Perfectly distastefull, pretentious, and meaningless at the same time. Oldboy was cool, but god damn those Koreans and their fucking nonsense.


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Not to be a complete troll,
here are a few other non-American films I'd recommend;



Werner Herzog's Aguirre: The Wrath Of God
Probably my favorite movie next to Apocalypse Now. A very unpleasant story of a band of conquistadors who get lost in the jungles of south America while hunting for the land of gold.


Alfonso Cuarón's Y tu mamá también
Sort of an Easy Rider for the 80's generation. Two teenage guys take an older woman on a road trip towards a beach they've made up.


Lars von Trier's The Idiots
A brilliant mixture of humor and pure anguish. It's a story about a bunch of people who get together and pretend to be mentally retarded in order to escape from their ordinary lives.


Ingmar Bergman's Persona
In my opinion, the best Bergman movie. An actress and her maid live alone on an isolated island, and start to get into eachothers heads.

Had a party last week, my desktop was mysteriously changed to this:



Kind of charming, don't want to change it just yet.