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nuffin much

Hey everyone look at Atma Busters(Jr is a lonely fag) sig.
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Yes youve got to unlock the secret job which is the chef job then you hafta make the recipe dragon cookies and sell them to kain from final fantasy 4 after that he joins you party but is only lvl1 and dies in one hit you hafta fight 200 battles with him and protect him from dieing after he thanks you and teaches you the way of the dragoon.

Thanks for this advice I will now use it.

But seriously I beat Wiegraph now onto getting cloud and balthier.
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....Yes grind.

I wuv hong kong seems like they tell it like it is unlike famitsus 39/40

I would but I don't want to change ramza's class from a squire.
I might try the tailwind/focus trick if all else fails.

Also does anyone know how to unlock the Dragoon job or any other useful ones because the job tree on GameFAQs is useless and makes no sense,even with my awesome knowledge of awesomeness.
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well the wiegraf fight was really easy if you came prepared. if you were say a lancer you could just jump at him a few times, a wizard however had to hide in the corner and cast spells whenever he could. monks also just ran up and punched a few times. As long as you avoided his summon it was a pretty easy fight (of course equipping rubber boots or whatever to lessen his lightning stab was almost necessary)
also i think immakinganaccountk is referring to the final fantasy tactics advanced series not the original

But I found tactics advance a lot harder.
And I'm up to the Wiergraf battle right now just died the first time.

I'm trying as a Squire got any strategy suggestions?
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Oh good god, don't you dare say Final Fantasy Tactics requires strategy. It doesn't.

 Tactics 1:
 *casts best spells & quickens and casts best spells again*

 Tactics 2:
 *hits enemy a few times and then casts best spells when mp is charged (or just use an ether)

 AND THEY FUCKING REMOVED THE MULITPLAYER IN A2 THE LAZY PRICKS

If you don't exploit it it kinda does.
It's pretty easy for a strategy game though.
And how about that 1 on 1 fight with wiergraph.
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Quite a big list ive got

ps2:
tales of the abyss
persona 3
persona 4
radiata stories
kingdom hearts 1
kingdom hearts recom
kingdom hearts 2
final fantasy 10
brath of fire dragin quarter

gamecube:
baten kaitos eternal wings (disc fucked up on me)
baten kaitos origins
skies of arcadia legends
fire emblem path of radience
super smash bros melee

wii:
final fantasy crystal chronicles crystal bearers
muramasa the demon blade

psp:
final fantasy tactics

gba:
golden sun 2
final fantasy tactics advance

and some games i cant remember...


WHOA!! thats a fuck load of games maybe you should just play one at a time..yes,no maybe?

Anyways I've been playing final fantasy tactics war of the lions in ridiculous bursts.
I'm already up to chapter 3 and towards the end of it(got Luso like 3 battles ago)

and about half those games aren't worth playing.
In my opinion you should quit these titles:
brath of fire dragon quarter
final fantasy crystal chronicles crystal bearers
golden sun 2
final fantasy tactics advance(unless your a huge strategy fan)
tales of the abyss(unless your an anime geek)

And only beat one of the Persona games since they're very much the same.
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i was talking to jr

Well i've played warcraft 3 (thats more of a strategy game) and elders scrolls.

I'm thinking of buying fallout 3 though I will try to get into them since I hear they are alot better then most jrpg's.
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baten kaitos.
which i have also never played.
lets just say i haven't played any jrpgs and am just making broad assumptions from things i read on the internet

(or that my little brother plays lots of jrpgs)

What about the Legend of Legaia games?(I'm not to sure about this one since I haven't played them much)
Also my bro was telling me Lunar 2 was pretty hard.
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I have been playing Final Fantasy Tactics War of the lions non stop.

But I'm freaking stuck in it again and I can't grind because if I leave the town I start a battle.
I dont have the energy to try again right now because I was so close to winning but one of my allies disappeared.

I've also been trying to get my hands on lost odyssey but I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Anyone know any sites that sell the pal version and ships to Australia.
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final fantasy tactics doesnt count because its a strategy game more than an rpg
never played grandia or the shin megami series (well i played demi kids I think it was called but that was also CAST BEST SPELL/AUTOATTACK YOU WIN!!!) so maybe you win this time
I'd also like to remand my previous statements the Pokemon series has a lot of in depth strategy in say the battle tower and metagame but if its just a normal battle then your level 96 charizard is going to beat misty no matter what with whatever attack, but yea the EV and IV and the choice of moves and type bonuses and special abilities and all that is very in depth. Pokemon series for best rpgs!!!

I onyl said Chrono Trigger was the best jrpg of all time because I hear it a lot I don't actually know!!

Well I'm pretty sure Demi Kids (or SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI : Devil Children as it's called in japan) is said to be the easiest .. or one of the easiest in the series.
Along with Devil Summoner(thats a action RPG ONE MWAHAHAHAHA,dont ask me why I did that I just felt evil)

Also I could barely tell Demi Kids was a Shin Megami Tensei game I found out like 2 years after I beat it.
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SPOILERS FOR SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI: DIGITAL DEVIL SAGA 2



God the final boss(You can pretty much tell the guys who made it are atheist) I remember full on expecting a extremely powerful being who is fucking huge..What do I get..A FUCKING TOWER WITH A MOUTH!!!!!

Not just that but the fight there is extremely boring you just fight four forms and each has its own element.
The reason its so memorable is because of how boring it was.

Digital Devil Saga 1 had a great last boss though check that game out but stay away from 2.
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*mashes x, character is actively doing something on screen*

*presses x, character casts fire II, wait for characters next turn, press x*

One of these is inherently more interesting than the other

also the "strategy" you're talking about is *CAST FIRAGA III* but don't  tell anyone  :shh:

like seriously even in chrono trigger THE BEST JRPG OF ALL TIME or whatever in the final battle all I found myself doing was *cast best spell, heal/revive, repeat* yay for the complex strategies!!!!
heck even in FABLE i find myself rolling around and defending and waiting for the opportune moment to strike which is more strategy than firecannon XII *deals 992 fire damage*
and Morrowind I have to plan things out carefully cause I play sneaky characters with few combat skills on hardest difficulty so even the first cave with the smuggles in it is a painful ordeal ("okay now that I stole this sword of paralysis and have a ring that grants invisibilty I will be able to paralyze the one with the spells while I try to kill the guy with the huge axe OH GOD I SHOULD HAVE PARALYZED THE AXE GUY MY STRATEGY IS POOR)

so much for your "more strategy" argument, heh heheheheh hehe heh  :welp:

edit: like honestly the most strategy i think ive found in any rpg (besides strategy rpgs like fire emblem) are like Craze/!\'s rpg maker games and its pretty bad when the best example of a piece of your genre is from RPG MAKER


You kinda got a point most Jrpg's fall under this category.

but a few ones like Baten Kaitos and Final Fantasy Tactics don't....oh yeah and the Persona series and digital devil saga or pretty much every Shin Megami Tensei Game.

Also I don't get how people think Chrono Trigger is the best JRPG...sure it has a simple and fun battle system and great character design(keep in mind I'm a DBZ fan) but everything else about it is pretty average.
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ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha wow.

It's funny huh!
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have you guys heard of um dnd

Well as I have said before I'm not really a fan of WRPG's
and also I like my RPG's to be story driven thank you!
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Yeah turn based rpg's are like the only ones i like as well. Kingdom hearts exception of course(yes I know it's not the best series out there but it's a fun game if you can overlook the flaws)
If I wanted real time combat I would play an action game.
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it's not particularly violent beyond what you've already seen, but yeah it is not very happy. there are a couple obnoxious perky characters, but the game does a pretty good job of straying further away from than that most bullshit jrpgs.

pretty much if you liked final fantasy 8, give it a try, but if you hated final fantasy 8, stay very far away

Well I like Final Fantasy VIII but it's not exactly my favorite game I just find it good not great.
Well it's pretty cheap like 30 bucks and I really want to see what sakaguchi (creator of Final Fantasy) is capable of.
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read my post above this one. this is not what lost odyssey is like at all.

the game is actually extremely similar to final fantasy 8, but with a lot less dynamic action. it's still a pretty decent game, and definitely worth it for people who are big into rpgs, but don't go into it expecting things like what happens in that clip.

(actually i have no idea if you were being sarcastic in that post, come to think of it)

I was being serious but I guy on the comments said the story was a lot less happy and a lot more violent.
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I've been playing Final Fantasy tactics War of the lions for the 3rd time.

I have also been researching about birth by sleep and how they are planning to patch it.
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accidentaL double post.
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LOST ODYSSEY! Amazing way to introduce the epic war protagonist, Kaim

FAR OUT MAN THAT GAME LOOKS SWEET IT'LL BE A NICE BREAK FROM ALL THOSE HAPPY RPG'S I'VE BEEN PLAYING RECENTLY!!!!

(goes out to the store to buy Lost Odyssey)