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Sure it was fun at the time! But just a few posts ago you were justifying it as right.

I'm not uptight at all, but you are still wrong for romanticizing saying nigger and faggot. It's not up to you to decide whether people who have been subjected to the words should be offended or not.

We have plenty of smart, interesting and creative people. For instance this topic: http://www.saltw.net/index.php?topic=82136.0

If being interesting for you revolves around slurs, then you are the boring one. Being smart and evolving mentally as a person, is infinitely more cool than obsessing over not being PC. As you can see most of our old members agree, and even a lot of the ones that have left since our heyday would feel the same.

geez, you're not getting my point.
I haven't been talking about how to be humorous in the present. I don't disagree with you there.
It's about how you guys are shunning to the past because, ugh, it was the worst bits of our history.

I mean, Give it a break ok? Vellfire, stop treating it as if it was the DARK AGES of GW history. It was hardly so. We had great times. Personally, it was the best times.
When it stopped being like that, many left. I left. I came back to remember those great times. Now I find out that the few that remained don't want to know anything about it. Tough shit.

Louis CK bit, which he himself is turning away from these days.
I'm not buying this. Unless he says somewhere that that slurs routine was stupid.
But I find the routine funny and not offensive, except for uptight people.
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you're kind of boring. what if the edgy thing for you to do is actually be genuine and a half-decent adult??
I tackle that issue in RL. This is about GW's PI past and you guys shunning from it
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its ok to remember the community's past, but it's more important to understand those things for what they were [horrible shit that should make you feel bad] and not to romanticize it as carefree youth.
~~~ it's the forum that made us what we are today ~~~

Proportionally speaking?  Might as well be.  Thanks for being obtuse so as not to have to confront your disgusting pride in some of the worst parts of our site's history though.
I'm really surprised by how strongly ashamed you feel about this site's 'dark' history.
I totally don't feel about it that way. I'm not saying what we did was right (because of course now we was great, sensible and evolved homo sapien), but it was good fun times. And I honestly feel like it's a shame you guys shun yourself from those times, if it was the Third Reich.

I am alarmed by how uptight most of you guys have become. And that Louis CK gig was hilarious. (only 13 unlikes according to youtube means rarely anyone got offended)
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But am I trolling? I think I've been sincere about everything so far. But you guys don't agree.

I hold dearly the way we used to use slurs in funny ways in the past here in GW. IT WAS EDUCATIONAL.
You guys seem to be embarrassed by it. I'm not, ok? I like to remember it, and I think you guys are a bit too PC about it.

and I'm wondering now if you guys also disapprove Louis CK's use of slurs in the youtube provided
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The KKK is part of Kentucky's history, I'm sure as heck not holding that dear.

lol, 'he isbring raped in prison' and KKK are equally dark dots in our past
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Not really, I don't support the use of slurs in humour nowadays....

or maybe I do? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vj2iQSeboA
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:^)

used to have epic ones with trystero which bordered the absurd and ridiculous

one of them was a terrible discussion about how I considered that SLASH was a terrible name.
What it looks like is that you passionately support the use of slurs in humor and started backing off the moment it became clear that this is an untenable position in today's community.

Not really, I don't support the use of slurs in humour nowadays, but I hold sacred the humour we used to have, because it was part of our history, it is kinda romantic. That level of political incorrectness. I'm not backing off anywhere.
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Also I think its fairly clear Sheppard wanted to stir something up and got more than he wanted.

:^)

used to have epic ones with trystero which bordered the absurd and ridiculous
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You brought it up first though by saying everyone here was "too PC" and "too nice" or something and that you "don't have a place" because of that.

That's because I was recalling all these things from the past and everyone seems to be embarrassed about.
And I'm more like, this our past man... we used to laugh at these things, and I still find them humorous, perhaps because it is a part of our shared history.
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how embarrassing



Anyway, to set the record straight:
the only time I used the N word was for the Whitman Mayo picture. Which used to be a recurrent GW character way back in time, maybe 2005? So I was recalling it. I always found that Mayo pic hilarious. I think it was Diggity Dawg who heralded it.
It has no significance, really. Just ticks my humour nerve.

Other than that, no I don't feel the need to use racial slurs. So we are stretching it a bit if you guys are thinking I do.
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yeah but the fact that you feel the need to unwind in such a way is pretty alarming imo!! i act "polite" irl too, but never in my life have i ever felt repressed by it and never have i felt the urge to go on the internet and scream nigger nigger cunt faggot nigger just because i could.
lol, is that your impression of me? I have a bit more of uh... depth than that

It's only relaxed for you dude!!!  Most of us aren't relaxed by ~*~hilarious~*~ slurs, especially those of us who are targeted by them!!!
I know!!!!! Ain't that OUTRAGEOUS!?!?!??!!!
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Thing is, I dont disagree with what you guys are saying. I practise that in RL.
All I say is I still find this forum as a space where I can have a more relaxed, careless, PI, approach (outrageous comedy)
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God forbid, we grew up ! ! !
So did I. So what. Does that mischievous inner child have to die?
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Omeg, I'm hitting the hyperbole, trying to say you guys got so squared and self-aware! and PC!
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lol i like that "empower women" is among "say no to drugs" and "bed by 10"
Don't you know

it's a very serious issue, see






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Your whole post isn't considering that this is very much the opposite of relaxing for the people the slurs are targeting (even if you're using it in a "joking" way)
ok, I'll be a nice kid. I'll comb my hair and tuck in my shirt. I'll do the homework in time. I'll say no to drugs whenever offered. And no alcohol as well, it kills brain cells. No promiscuous sex. Bed by 10. Healthy balanced diet, free of cholesterol. Always give money to charity. Empower women. Teach the street children and give them a platform to have a voice. Vegetarian. No cigarettes. Tolerant to all religions, no matter how far fetched. Perpetual volunteer to any social work.
LIKE A DAMN GOOD HOMO SAPIEN
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Sorry that you find most of us not liking racism, sexism, etc. anymore boring.

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this is the #1 excuse that racists, homophobes etc. use: they say "well, I didn't MEAN for it to be offensive, YOU'RE the problem here." well, there's an obvious problem with that, namely the fact that it puts the burden on the victim. so then the bully can say whatever they like, and if anything is considered offensive, it's the fault of whomever they decided to bully. that's the argument that allows racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and so on, to persist.

there's a much simpler and more moral approach that you can take: when someone says they're offended by something you said, assume that they're telling the truth (because they are), empathize, and make some effort to not repeat the offending material again. it's a very small effort, anyone can do it (and if you slip up, that's OK, because at least you're making an effort), and it makes the people around you feel a lot better. there's a name for what I just described, and it's "political correctness". the other term for it is "being nice to people".

you can either choose to hate political correctness because it doesn't allow you to say "nigger" in public anymore, or you can simply be nice to people and not use those words.
while it's very nice and sweet and tender, and it's the right thing to do, and what I normally do in RL, the internet and GW in particular was the space where I would go nuts and have a laugh while using these taboo words.
Because it's not that I'd use these words in an offensive way to intentionally attack someone or anyone. It's not a case of 'you're shit because of [racial ][/racial]'. But much rather a relaxation of everything that's taboo in real life.  ('Don't be uptight bucko')

on the other hand I remember when Trystero came up with the troubadours Xmas working title 'Ho-Ho-Holocaust'. And some laughed. And I ended up making a song with that title. In fact didnt the album end up with 2 songs with that same title? And now looking back, man, that was embarrassing. That was bad and wrong.
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Well I loved GW for its political incorrectness. I've got real life to be mature, prudent and respectable. GW has always been a space to go nuts, I always understood it that way. Whether it was with targ, or by being polemic, or 'borderline humour'.

That was my raison d'être here.

It feels like I no longer have a place here, in that sense at least. And it seems boring to me. :/
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it's not that being younger makes you more prone to being mean, but rather than it makes you more prone to doing or saying stupid, regrettable shit. in this case acting like dicks to people unnecessarily, but there's plenty of other things the community did that we're all collectively embarrassed about. eg. NIGGAR GONNA GET RAPED IN PRISON or w/e the fuck being a meme that a bunch of people laughed about at one point. or arguing with people about racism while calling them 'retarded faggots' completely unaware of any irony. i even remember a very old topic where some of the most intelligent members were basically using the south park defense in their use of the word faggot. also remember our epic jone rap battles? because i sure as fuck don't want to.

I regret nothing [/fierce niggar
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I just remembered Pulitz ridiculous gunshot incident. I think he got shot in car and he got pushed out or something and he somehow got back to safety? Man, it was a ridiculous story, I cant remember it right