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they're okay but every album has like two songs you really like and the rest are pretty forgettable. I just find it pretty funny he chose GUNS AND ROSES and THE RAMONES as his examples of perfect mainstream groups.
what wait up i hate the ramones. although GnR are basically amazing if you count just the first album and half of each of the Illusion albums. but that's IMO.

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Guns and Roses and the Ramones are completely throwaway when compared to much better bands that never achieved their level of success.
what do yo umean by this though. i know that only shit like classic rock magazines rate it as best hard rock bands ever! but they were still one of the most popular/influencial/best bands of the 80s/early 90s. completely throwawayf??uh??
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this is really cool, but like othes I question its effectiveness, as it could give the wrong one often. what's the accuracy rate?
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yea the vocal minority is the opinion that's heard...unfortunately the rest are quiet about their tastes and just let the minority talk about gnarls barkley....although now that i check out myspace...crazy is a pretty catchy song hey he's pretty good, reminds me of the 80s pop songs. hey remember the 80s? who wasnts to talk about guns n roses? NO you PoS GnR sucks they were part of the live fast die young but not really era of music and they just made their music for money fuck em. yeah you're right lets talk about music that is on the fringe of  being picked up by the indie scene but not quite which is why we like it.
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no its pretty much true. and the vocal minority here pretty much does agree that anything that recieves mainstream notice is bunk.


well, more accurately you're into alternative media
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gaming world hates EVERYTHING that's at least remotely popular.....

what? THE RAMONES? What a horrible band they suck...listen to THE TEABAGS they only put out ONE(1) EP and even though only 40 copies were sold it its still better than anything remotely from that time!
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you mean like jazz rock or jazz metal or symphonic metal or rap rock?
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a day in prison for assault
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i do!
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maybe do audio for bonus points but also write it out so lazy ppl can read it.
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i'm in
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man i hate how every single topic i make nowadays turns to shit

i think the problem with this topic is you're still assuming environment and upbringing have anything to do with what people listen to when it could just be they picked up a Greil Marcus article and plowed through it.

sure you can stretch that to AH BUT WHO TAUGHT YOU TO READ or WHERE YOU LIVE NEEDS GREIL MARCUS ARTICLES but come on. my environment is suburbia, my upbringing is Indian. very little of that is reflected in my music.
yes i am assuming that, and I guess there are exceptions, but are you telling me that you never had a friend who listened to generic genre a and you ended up getting into it because of him? or your dad listens to indian music but you aren't interested in listening to it because you did before and now it bores you?

maybe its just me but i kind of highly really really doubt you don't have any outside influences dictating your taste
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Maybe if I just clarified each category:
the first is what affects your taste currently, which includes but isn't limited to your personal taste.
the second is what affected your taste in the past, which includes but isn't limited to your personal taste.
the third is your personal taste, its kind of hard to explain now, but its everything that affects your taste once you eliminate all outside stimuli (sorry for philosophical explanations but I'm stuck in philosophical essay mode)

of course, if there wasn't anything other than your personal taste which was relevant in the first and second parts, then no problem, I'm just thinking though that some people are overstepping them unnecessarily

Wasn't my upbringing. A lot of Styx, Boston, The Fabulous Thunderbirds, and James Brown. I still enjoy all of those acts to this day, but I probably wouldn't mention any of them if someone asked me to define my music taste.

Isn't really my environment. It was in like 7th grade. Friend introduced me to some bands, I latched on to them, but from that point on they didn't have too much of an effect. I'm one of the few kids I know that really enjoys Pop-Punk. And Ska, actually. And a lot of hardcore.

So I think it's personal taste. After I started listening to more music, I started looking for it on my own. A personal quest of sorts. I really, really enjoy music, and it's kind of a personal thing.
But, your upbringing DID play a part in it.....you listened to those bands as you grew up (I assume I'm interpreting your sentence correctly?) and they are part of your collection now right? I can see what you mean where it doesn't necessarily define your taste, but I think its still a part of it, unless i'm reading you wrong.

As for environment: it played a part in the past (so, during your upbringing), but it doesn't currently. I would file that under upbringing...see, the categories aren't exclusive or even one at a time things.
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For this installment of the award winning Topic of the WeekTOTW series you will be answering this question:

What influences your taste in music?


Actually, scratch that. It's a bit too broad. I'll answer it for you: 1) your current environment, 2) your upbringing, and 3) your own personal taste. These are the three major variables that influence musical taste. (This is not necessarily limited to just music however; it applies to pretty much all psychology, sociology, and philosophy.) Here is an explanation of each, accompanied of course with pictures found on google image search:



1) Your current environment concerns where you live. For purposes of this topic, it influences the music you listen to primarily through other people's tastes (peer pressure!), but also through what, if any, type of music is promoted in that area through other means. Example, you live in an area where people your age mostly listen to the Jonas Brothers, or your personal group of friends all listen to the most obscure crap you can find because its rebelling against all the dumb kids who like the JB. Either way, your taste in music will be influenced because you either listen to the same thing as the people around you, or you rebel against it and avoid that type of music.


As for the second part, what type of music is promoted in your area, its basically the same thing as the first, the only thing different is the source. The source in this case is something like the local radio stations, any concerts booked in your area, what traditionally became part of your area's musical culture, etc. Again, you can either accept it or reject it (not 100% in either direction of course!), but either way it is an influence on your taste.


2) Your upbringing is as important as your environment because it deals with what you listened to in the past. For example, when I was younger (like 8-11 years old), I listened mainly to classical music like Beethoven and the sort. Now therefore I have a natural tendancy to steer away from that genre because I no longer find interest in it. It can also work the other way around, say your parents are Polish and they played alot of polish pop around the house when you were younger; you may find yourself interested in hearing more of that sort of music now that you are at the age of comprehending what you are actually listening to.


Basically, what experiences in the past affect what you listen to now?

3) And finally, Your personal taste, which is not so much a separate category from the other two but rather a result of them. As you grow your taste in music will change naturally, helped along by the above two influences. You may say that personal taste supercedes the above two, and you are probably right, however that personal taste is still a result of the way your taste has been influenced. I include this category as a topic for discussion because while it is a large part of your decision on what to listen to, it is not always present. Take for example you are in the car with one of your friends, when she puts on a song that you've never heard before from a station you don't listen to. You end up enjoying the song, despite it not being (what you originally thought to be) part of your style. That's an example of your environment bypassing your personal taste.


What personal taste does govern is what type of music you enjoy listening to and actively searching out on your own. Example: you like jazz and you look up all sorts of underground clubs in the city that play jazz.


Very sorry for the long read, and if you are still with me up to this point, I guess you can reply in two ways: first, describe the things which influence your taste according to the categories given (environment, upbringing, personal taste); or second, argue with my appointed categories and perhaps add/subtract any from your response.

One last thing: This is NOT a thread to talk about what kind of music you like, we have enough of those. This is to do some introspection and figure out WHY you like that kind of music.
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ill post it right after I eat dinner.

edit: dinner was kind of disappointing, the chicken was especially bad today. how is a college student supposed to become the future of amerika when he can't even eat a full 3 meals a day??

edit2: topic up

edit3: though I fear I made it too philosphical sounding and complicated for the general population of GW to have the patience to sift through....
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even in video games it creeps me, something could come out of no where and swallow me alive or bite me and half, or just plain drag me down a thousand feet to the bottom of the ocean.

man that would be so sweet if in something random like gta if you get too far out in the ocean on your boat or while swimming you end up getting attacked by a kraken and dragged down until you run out of air.
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haven't listened to anything H-era except Brave and Marbles...how does the newest one compare to those two?


also, I'm getting into bebop jazz lately. Charlie Parker and the like. Its decent stuff.
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Man the big companies don't give a shit.
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Man, asians look different than non-asians in terms of age, chill; she's at least 12.



actually, she looks more like 16-18
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he's not that funny
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awesome